Re: [WISPA] Anyone on the east cost need a 100' ladder truck?

[RickG]

Wouldnt that be fun! But, I can only imagine what the insurance would run.
-RickG

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Marlon K. Schafer 
wrote:

> Less than $5k right now!
>
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[WISPA] Stimulus act

[Blake Bowers]

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Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector Antennas

[John Thomas]

I understand that Cisco is expensive, but it does work. I have clients 
with Cisco Aironet 340's installed that are 7+ years old.
Is it the national pastime to beat on Cisco?

As for antennas, Superpass makes some that might work well for this project

http://www.superpass.com/SP-MIMO-D1J1.html

http://www.superpass.com/MIMO-24.html

http://www.superpass.com/MIMO-5.html

John


3-dB Networks wrote:
> Right... N relies on MIMO... so antenna diversity is important.  In an
> indoor application this AP would have six small Omni antennas on it... just
> inches apart from each other.  I don't think the exact placement of the
> antennas is important, as long as the patterns overlap.  I've never seen
> anything specifying the distances of antennas... but if someone knows that
> would be great.
>
> Either way, a dual-band antenna would cut it from six sectors to three...
> and not lose any of the benefits.  Might not be cost effective, but I want
> to explore that.  I'd also hope that there would be an antenna out there
> that already has the antenna diversity setup inside the antenna by having
> three elements pointing the correct directions.  I wouldn't think noise
> would be that big of an issue at the antenna since they will all be
> broadcasting on the same frequency anyways.
>
> As for what he is trying to accomplish... I wish I knew.  His application
> does not require 802.11n speeds, it could require the MIMO near and non-los
> properties... I think he wants 802.11n because it's the next thing.  Just
> like I don't think he should be using Cisco... but no IT guy has ever been
> fired for deploying Cisco right :-)
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> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
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>   
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:34 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector
>> Antennas
>>
>> I think the whole idea behind N is antenna diversity Daniel.
>>
>> Using less antennas means he'll get little or no benefit from the
>> system.
>> Might as well just run with a standard b/g system.
>>
>> I think antenna placement will also be critical for n.  I could be
>> totally
>> wrong here, but my guess is that there are specific distances between
>> antennas that are part of the magic of n.
>>
>> What's he hoping to accomplish?
>>
>> Better NLOS, better nLOS, better speed?
>>
>> laters,
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "3-dB Networks" 
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>> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:43 AM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector
>> Antennas
>>
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>> 
>>> I'm helping someone design an antenna system to utilize the MIMO
>>> properties
>>> in 802.11n outdoors.  The Cisco box he wants to connect to has three
>>>   
>> 5GHz
>> 
>>> and three 2.4GHz outputs.  I'd rather avoid deploying six sector
>>>   
>> antennas
>> 
>>> (only need to cover about 120 degrees. so I figured three 90degree
>>>   
>> sectors
>> 
>>> ought to do it) so would like recommendations on :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -  Good dual-band 2.4GHz/5GHz antenna
>>>
>>> -  Good Sector antenna that has multiple inputs on the same
>>>   
>> band,
>> 
>>> same polarity (not sure if such a beast exists, but doesn't hurt
>>>   
>> asking!).
>> 
>>>
>>> V-pol is preferred, as the clients will have V-pol omnis.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any help is really appreciated.  Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel White
>>>
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[WISPA] Anyone on the east cost need a 100' ladder truck?

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Less than $5k right now!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SEAGRAVE-WR-07DF-ONLY-18-049-MILES-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ260366134160QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCommercial_Trucks?hash=item260366134160&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

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[WISPA] Northern Illinois

[Mike Hammett]

I am looking for Northern Illinois providers looking for Internet connectivity.


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Re: [WISPA] enclosure

[Mike Hammett]

Sometimes that'll happen with toll free numbers from certain carriers and LATAs.


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From: Blair Davis 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:23 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] enclosure


Thanks to all that replied to this.  Brad with Defacto got back with me so I 
was able to order from them.

Seems that there may be some problem with their toll free number when calling 
from Michigan... 

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Re: [WISPA] enclosure

[Brian Rohrbacher]

I have 20 plus of ODE-KAM-IES-11.5x11.5x3-KIT in the air and they have
made it through the winter really good here.  No problems with any of
them.  Hinged, no screws.  I love them.  And I have my pick from the
arc antennas to bolt on.
http://shop.defactowireless.com/s.nl;jsessionid=0a010c491f43367312351219404088f39f577c2e1405.e3eSc3aPaxmLe34Pa38Ta38Naxb0?it=A&id=1907

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Blair Davis wrote:

  
Thanks to all that replied to this.  Brad with Defacto got back with me
so I was able to order from them.
  
Seems that there may be some problem with their toll free number when
calling from Michigan... 
  
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Re: [WISPA] enclosure

[Marlon K. Schafer]

I just got a nice new one from Butch.  Much better than any I've had before.
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Blair Davis 
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:49 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] enclosure


  Looking for a metal, weatherproof enclosure for the RB333/433.

  Maybe something like this, 

  http://shop.defactowireless.com/s.nl/it.A/id.1446/.f

  But from someone who is still around...

  Blair



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[WISPA] QuickBooks and MikroTik Hotspot

[Blair Davis]

Hi again...

I am looking for a solution to connect my QuickBooks merchant gateway
with MikroTik Hotspots to allow mobile and transient users to sign up
and pay for service.  Laptops and such.

Any ideas or anyone have done this already and would be willing to sell
the scripts/software to me?

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Re: [WISPA] enclosure

[Blair Davis]

Thanks to all that replied to this.  Brad with Defacto got back with me
so I was able to order from them.

Seems that there may be some problem with their toll free number when
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Re: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving

[RickG]

Ya but at least you have direct LOS to nearly everyone!
-RickG

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Brad Belton  wrote:

> Ha...just a few of us.  You can cut the RF in the air with a knife.  
>
> Where did you spot a Trango?  Could have been one of ours.  We have
> essentially 100% coverage within the loop around DFW and substantial
> coverage extending beyond the loop into 11 or more counties.
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> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Cameron Kilton
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:35 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving
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> I was down visiting some relatives in Irving, TX and noticed a few
> Trango units kicking around, anyone covering that area, just curios to
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Re: [WISPA] enclosure

[Scott Reed]

For APs I have been using enclosures from Saginaw Controls and 
Engineering.  The NEMA3R hinged door, 1/4 turn latch, like this one:
http://www.saginawcontrol.com/part_info.php?PartNum=SCE-12R1208LP&value=1 


Blair Davis wrote:
> Looking for a metal, weatherproof enclosure for the RB333/433.
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> Maybe something like this,
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Re: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving

[Mike Hammett]

Apparently the Metroplex has been popular.  I was just there visiting a 
friend for about 5 days, though we were mostly Fort Worth and west... 
ventured into Dallas for a hockey game (GO HAWKS).


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From: "Cameron Kilton" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:34 PM
To: 
Subject: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving

> I was down visiting some relatives in Irving, TX and noticed a few
> Trango units kicking around, anyone covering that area, just curios to
> who it is.
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Re: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving

[Cameron Kilton]

I did enjoy the sector antenna installation on damn near every building
a looked at. It was quite funny how many antennas on the sides of these
buildings.

-Cameron

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving

http://www.rapidlink.com/images/dallas.png

-Matt

On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Cameron Kilton wrote:

> I was down visiting some relatives in Irving, TX and noticed a few
> Trango units kicking around, anyone covering that area, just curios to
> who it is.
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Re: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving

[Matt Liotta]

http://www.rapidlink.com/images/dallas.png

-Matt

On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Cameron Kilton wrote:

> I was down visiting some relatives in Irving, TX and noticed a few
> Trango units kicking around, anyone covering that area, just curios to
> who it is.
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Re: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving

[Cameron Kilton]

It was approx one mile from Vega street in Irving, maybe 2. It looked
like a Trango 5830-ext on a 10 foot mast and tripod. 

-Cam

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Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving

Ha...just a few of us.  You can cut the RF in the air with a knife.


Where did you spot a Trango?  Could have been one of ours.  We have
essentially 100% coverage within the loop around DFW and substantial
coverage extending beyond the loop into 11 or more counties.

Best,


Brad

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Behalf Of Cameron Kilton
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:35 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving

I was down visiting some relatives in Irving, TX and noticed a few
Trango units kicking around, anyone covering that area, just curios to
who it is.

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Re: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving

[Brad Belton]

Ha...just a few of us.  You can cut the RF in the air with a knife.  

Where did you spot a Trango?  Could have been one of ours.  We have
essentially 100% coverage within the loop around DFW and substantial
coverage extending beyond the loop into 11 or more counties.

Best,


Brad

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Behalf Of Cameron Kilton
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:35 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Dallas/Irving

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Trango units kicking around, anyone covering that area, just curios to
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[WISPA] Dallas/Irving

[Cameron Kilton]

I was down visiting some relatives in Irving, TX and noticed a few
Trango units kicking around, anyone covering that area, just curios to
who it is.

Cameron
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Re: [WISPA] enclosure

[Josh Luthman]

I use these cases for the 433 as APs.

http://www.quicklinkwireless.com/ItemDesc.asp?IC=DCE-H-LG-2

You can find them from many places (Streakwave, Titanwireless, Wisp Router,
etc) - just Google "2 n hole enclosure" and make sure the picture is the
same.  They also come in 4 N hole versions.

These enclosures survive in Ohio where it will go from 0 to 50 and back in a
days time (making water a real problem).  The PacWireless enclosures did a
pretty good job but we still had problems from time to time with water
finding its way in and filling up with a pool of water.  The only way we
solved this problem (with the PacWireless ones, NOT the unknown
manufacturer) was to put coax seal around the top edge.

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On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Mike Goicoechea wrote:

> Defacto is still in operation I am just no longer with the company. You can
> reach them at sa...@defactowireless.com
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> Behalf Of Blair Davis
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:49 PM
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> Subject: [WISPA] enclosure
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> Looking for a metal, weatherproof enclosure for the RB333/433.
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> Maybe something like this,
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> http://shop.defactowireless.com/s.nl/it.A/id.1446/.f
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Re: [WISPA] enclosure

[Mike Goicoechea]

Defacto is still in operation I am just no longer with the company. You can
reach them at sa...@defactowireless.com 

 

Thanks,

 

Mike Goicoechea

Cielo Systems 

  _  

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Behalf Of Blair Davis
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Subject: [WISPA] enclosure

 

Looking for a metal, weatherproof enclosure for the RB333/433.

Maybe something like this, 

http://shop.defactowireless.com/s.nl/it.A/id.1446/.f

But from someone who is still around...

Blair




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[WISPA] enclosure

[Blair Davis]

Looking for a metal, weatherproof enclosure for the RB333/433.

Maybe something like this, 

http://shop.defactowireless.com/s.nl/it.A/id.1446/.f

But from someone who is still around...

Blair





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Re: [WISPA] Service in North East MD

[Patrick Shoemaker]

http://www.baybroadband.net/map.CecilMD.html

Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
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Martha Huizenga wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am sure that I saw a WISP with a web site for Cecil County and North 
> East MD, but can't find it now. Any one close to here?
> 
> Martha



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[WISPA] Service in North East MD

[Martha Huizenga]

Hi all,
I am sure that I saw a WISP with a web site for Cecil County and North 
East MD, but can't find it now. Any one close to here?

Martha
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Re: [WISPA] Mounting Standoffs

[Josh Luthman]

Those that Ryan linked you to (I believe) are the exact same ones that I
bought.  If not the same then they're the same functionally.

If you buy $50 worse from Microplastics you break even after 24 CPEs (using
4 per CPE).

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:45 AM, D. Ryan Spott  wrote:

> Try 
>
> ryan
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
> > I use 27MLAD0437TAB from Microplastics 800-466-1467 for my 411 and 433's
> in
> > the ARC and
> >
> http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=EN-TW2Nenclosures
> .
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> > --- Henry Spencer
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Forbes Mercy
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> We need some Mounting Standoffs (those little spacers that go on
> >> Microtik boards.  We have mostly 411, 433 and 133 boards and while I see
> >> Titan Wireless has them for a buck apiece we also found something
> >> similar at Mouser Electronics for .53 cents each.  Mouser isn't explicit
> >> as to which boards they can be mounted on, any ideas from you folks?
> >>
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> >> Forbes
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Re: [WISPA] Mounting Standoffs

[D. Ryan Spott]

Try 

ryan

Josh Luthman wrote:
> I use 27MLAD0437TAB from Microplastics 800-466-1467 for my 411 and 433's in
> the ARC and
> http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=EN-TW2Nenclosures.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> --- Henry Spencer
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Forbes Mercy
> wrote:
>
>   
>> We need some Mounting Standoffs (those little spacers that go on
>> Microtik boards.  We have mostly 411, 433 and 133 boards and while I see
>> Titan Wireless has them for a buck apiece we also found something
>> similar at Mouser Electronics for .53 cents each.  Mouser isn't explicit
>> as to which boards they can be mounted on, any ideas from you folks?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Forbes
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Re: [WISPA] Mounting Standoffs

[Josh Luthman]

I use 27MLAD0437TAB from Microplastics 800-466-1467 for my 411 and 433's in
the ARC and
http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=EN-TW2Nenclosures.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Forbes Mercy
wrote:

> We need some Mounting Standoffs (those little spacers that go on
> Microtik boards.  We have mostly 411, 433 and 133 boards and while I see
> Titan Wireless has them for a buck apiece we also found something
> similar at Mouser Electronics for .53 cents each.  Mouser isn't explicit
> as to which boards they can be mounted on, any ideas from you folks?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector Antennas

[3-dB Networks]

Right... N relies on MIMO... so antenna diversity is important.  In an
indoor application this AP would have six small Omni antennas on it... just
inches apart from each other.  I don't think the exact placement of the
antennas is important, as long as the patterns overlap.  I've never seen
anything specifying the distances of antennas... but if someone knows that
would be great.

Either way, a dual-band antenna would cut it from six sectors to three...
and not lose any of the benefits.  Might not be cost effective, but I want
to explore that.  I'd also hope that there would be an antenna out there
that already has the antenna diversity setup inside the antenna by having
three elements pointing the correct directions.  I wouldn't think noise
would be that big of an issue at the antenna since they will all be
broadcasting on the same frequency anyways.

As for what he is trying to accomplish... I wish I knew.  His application
does not require 802.11n speeds, it could require the MIMO near and non-los
properties... I think he wants 802.11n because it's the next thing.  Just
like I don't think he should be using Cisco... but no IT guy has ever been
fired for deploying Cisco right :-)

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:34 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector
>Antennas
>
>I think the whole idea behind N is antenna diversity Daniel.
>
>Using less antennas means he'll get little or no benefit from the
>system.
>Might as well just run with a standard b/g system.
>
>I think antenna placement will also be critical for n.  I could be
>totally
>wrong here, but my guess is that there are specific distances between
>antennas that are part of the magic of n.
>
>What's he hoping to accomplish?
>
>Better NLOS, better nLOS, better speed?
>
>laters,
>marlon
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "3-dB Networks" 
>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:43 AM
>Subject: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector
>Antennas
>
>
>> I'm helping someone design an antenna system to utilize the MIMO
>> properties
>> in 802.11n outdoors.  The Cisco box he wants to connect to has three
>5GHz
>> and three 2.4GHz outputs.  I'd rather avoid deploying six sector
>antennas
>> (only need to cover about 120 degrees. so I figured three 90degree
>sectors
>> ought to do it) so would like recommendations on :
>>
>>
>>
>> -  Good dual-band 2.4GHz/5GHz antenna
>>
>> -  Good Sector antenna that has multiple inputs on the same
>band,
>> same polarity (not sure if such a beast exists, but doesn't hurt
>asking!).
>>
>>
>>
>> V-pol is preferred, as the clients will have V-pol omnis.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any help is really appreciated.  Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> 3-dB Networks
>>
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector Antennas

[Marlon K. Schafer]

I think the whole idea behind N is antenna diversity Daniel.

Using less antennas means he'll get little or no benefit from the system. 
Might as well just run with a standard b/g system.

I think antenna placement will also be critical for n.  I could be totally 
wrong here, but my guess is that there are specific distances between 
antennas that are part of the magic of n.

What's he hoping to accomplish?

Better NLOS, better nLOS, better speed?

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "3-dB Networks" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:43 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector Antennas


> I'm helping someone design an antenna system to utilize the MIMO 
> properties
> in 802.11n outdoors.  The Cisco box he wants to connect to has three 5GHz
> and three 2.4GHz outputs.  I'd rather avoid deploying six sector antennas
> (only need to cover about 120 degrees. so I figured three 90degree sectors
> ought to do it) so would like recommendations on :
>
>
>
> -  Good dual-band 2.4GHz/5GHz antenna
>
> -  Good Sector antenna that has multiple inputs on the same band,
> same polarity (not sure if such a beast exists, but doesn't hurt asking!).
>
>
>
> V-pol is preferred, as the clients will have V-pol omnis.
>
>
>
> Any help is really appreciated.  Thanks!
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> 3-dB Networks
>
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
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[WISPA] Wireless installer needed for a small Texas project

[Jesse Preiner]

 

We have a client in Texas with some Orthogon/Canopy equipment (Motorola
5730BH or Orthogon 1678 backhauls) and they are in need of someone to
help with the installation.   Please advise if you are interested in
more information.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Bryan Bergschnieder

Relay Networks, Inc.

 

651-204-0876 ext 106

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[WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector Antennas

[3-dB Networks]

I'm helping someone design an antenna system to utilize the MIMO properties
in 802.11n outdoors.  The Cisco box he wants to connect to has three 5GHz
and three 2.4GHz outputs.  I'd rather avoid deploying six sector antennas
(only need to cover about 120 degrees. so I figured three 90degree sectors
ought to do it) so would like recommendations on :

 

-  Good dual-band 2.4GHz/5GHz antenna

-  Good Sector antenna that has multiple inputs on the same band,
same polarity (not sure if such a beast exists, but doesn't hurt asking!).

 

V-pol is preferred, as the clients will have V-pol omnis.

 

Any help is really appreciated.  Thanks! 

 

Daniel White

3-dB Networks

http://www.3dbnetworks.com

 




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