Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ?
In many ways this is certainly true. Look at the Roman water systems and roads. Where are the Romans now? Oh, never mind. lol marlon - Original Message - From: Clint Ricker cric...@kentnis.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ? Want to truly take nothing? Seriously? The mere existence of the Internet is due to government funding. The wires that connect your little corner of Oregon to the great wide world? Probably wouldn't have happened without government subsidies. The same is true around the world. A lot of the research that drives the technology getting your bits across the wire...hmmm...government funding, as well. You're in the wrong industry to invent a moral highroad about government subsidisations. Telecomm is considered a utility, and utilities will always be subsidised by governments. Always have been, and always will be. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:29 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: The fact is, the only things we're doing wrong, is allowing too much subsidy, too many barriers to entry into the business, and too much tax money to be gobbled up. In all of these countries with so-called great broadband, how much is ACTUALLY spent by the consumers and taxpayers? Nobody knows. I will guarantee you it is WELL MORE than anyone pays here.No, not the price of subsidized services, the total spending divided by users and taxpayers. What is the actual return on broadband?I can tell you honestly, that with the exception of a small handful of my customers, the only return is time saved, with no monetary returns.For a few, it does have financial implications, and they do earn or save money.I'd say it was under 10%. Now, that's RESIDENTIAL customers.Business customers have a far different viewpoint... And they often pay well more than residential service prices to get SLA's, etc. Subsidizing the residential users with taxpayers is both economically wrong, and just plain common sense wrong. But as far as the article goes.. We need MORE free market and less interference. Broadband would spread faster, not slower. And be more, not less, competitive. But we have to recognize some things... There are historically created monopolies, and there are current monopolies, and these monopolies exist due to force of law. If there's anything that's held up broadband, it's these monopolies. Local and state laws often create monopolies by placing huge impediments to new startups, or wireless deployments, and often absolutely and totally forbid WIRED competition for phone and cable operators by offering exclusive franchises. The number of competitive wired phone operators is nil, for all practical purposes, for a lot of reasons. Yet, we have no end in sight of the wireless phone guys competing for your dollar. In rural America, far too much land is governmentally owned, and is the single largest obstacle to wireless deployments. Eastern Oregon, for instance is hugely Federal, some state, and tiny spots of private land. Trying to use federal or state land is just simply not feasible, especially if you're provider #2 for a town of 2000 people and you're trying to be cost competitive. And Congress can't seem to figure out that handing out grants to people who are experts at milking the sow in DC isn't cost effective or in any other way effective. Those who can, do, those who can't, get grants or loans. Not universally, but at least around here, that's the case. Here is Eastern Oregon, we have one company that invested minimal money of their own, but bilked the state for millions, and uses state money (mine, no less) to deploy fiber to compete with non subsidized WISP's and other ISP's. And, since their contract is written in a certain way, they use the LEAST cost effective means of reaching people. They get paid by the state to waste money, IMO. And are they friendly to being cooperative iwth other ISP's? Hell no. Every time you offer public subsidy, you simply invite the taxpayers to get screwed endlessly. And we're ALL taxpayers. If you want to lobby DC and get my support, then the following words and this idea will NEVER surface in what you say... Give us money from the taxpayers.If you want to talk tax breaks, if you want to talk legal classifications, if you want to talk about barriers to services, etc, etc... by all means, do so... but you lose me everytime you say we need money. If you can't make the business case for it without subsidy or grants, IT SHOULD NOT BE DONE. Period. And those poor whiny souls who bellyache about the position we hold in broadband penetration can have endless bleeding ulcers over it, they have no point worth considering. As I've said before... lots of people here are
[WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetings today
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourcing Email and Webhosting
Look at http://www.sherweb.com/hosted-exchange it's who I am currently using for Hosted exchange. They do hosting as well. Never used them for that. Network Solutions for hosting. I have tried 4 various services for hosting and the speed at Network solutions is worth the price. Sherweb exchange use the barracuda protection and I love it. You can become a reseller for them as well. Demo's are available. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 12:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourcing Email and Webhosting Are you sure it's free? I just went lookin and it looks like there is a cost involved.. Brian Josh Luthman wrote: Google is free. Exchange I know costs a copy of Windows 2003 or 2008 plus Exchange. I'm told the price isn't too bad, but that's coming from a Windows-only person. Also factor in your monthly hosting fee if that's the route you go. On 3/14/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We thought of it ... Costs? How about exchange? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: motorola-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 10:15 AM To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: Re: [Motorola II] [WISPA] Outsourcing Email and Webhosting If you want to set it and forget it..Google Apps partner edition. On 3/14/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Hey All We have been thinkig of outsourcing all our webhosting/email services, including regular pop3 and exchange, Anyone can recommend a solid service provider? we have about 50 domains. Just one using exchange, butt would like to start offering exchange hosting Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetings today
I am there, via web that is... ;) Victoria -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:25 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetings today http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Post 4G technologies in Europe
Not really related to WISPs here in the US, but still interesting to those who are following 4G and post 4G wireless technologies http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090308121655.htm *** *** ScienceDaily (Mar. 14, 2009) — With much of the mobile world yet to migrate to 3G mobile communications, let alone 4G, European researchers are already working on a new technology able to deliver data wirelessly up to 12.5Gb/s. The technology – known as ‘millimetre (mm)-wave’ or microwave photonics – has commercial applications not just in telecommunications (access and in-house networks) but also in instrumentation, radar, security, radio astronomy and other fields. Despite the quantum leap in performance made possible by combining the latest radio and optics technologies to produce mm-wave components, it will probably only be a few years before there are real benefits for the average EU citizen. This is thanks to research and development work being done by the EU-funded project IPHOBAC, which brings together partners from both academia and industry with the aim of developing a new class of components and systems for mm-wave applications. The mm-wave band is the extremely high frequency part of the radio spectrum, from 30 to 300 gigahertz (GHz), and it gets it name from having a wavelength of one to 10mm. Until now, the band has been largely undeveloped, so the new technology makes available for exploitation more of the scarce and much-in-demand spectrum. New products from Europe IPHOBAC is not simply a ‘paper project’ where the technology is researched, but very much a practical exercise to develop and commercialise a new class of products with a ‘made in Europe’ label on them. While several companies in Japan and the USA have been working on merging optical and radio frequency technologies, IPHOBAC is the world’s first fully integrated effort in the field, with a lot of different companies involved. This has resulted in the three-year project, which runs until end-2009, already having an impressive list of achievements to its name. It recently unveiled a tiny component, a transmitter able to transmit a continuous signal not only through the entire mm-wave band but beyond. Its full range is 30 to 325GHz and even higher frequency operation is now under investigation. The first component worldwide able to deliver that range of performance, it will be used in both communications and radar systems. Other components developed by the project include 110GHz modulators, 110GHz photodetectors, 300GHz dual-mode lasers, 60GHz mode-locked lasers, and 60GHz transceivers. Truly disruptive technology Project coordinator Andreas Stöhr says millimetre-wave photonics is a truly disruptive technology for high frequency applications. “It offers unique capabilities such as ultra-wide tunability and low-phase noise which are not possible with competing technologies, such as electronics,” he says. What this will mean in practical terms is not only ultra-fast wireless data transfer over telecommunications networks, but also a whole range of new applications (http://www.iphobac-survey.org). One of these, a 60GHz Photonic Wireless System, was demonstrated at the ICT 2008 exhibition in Lyon and was voted into the Top Ten Best exhibits. The system allows wireless connectivity in full high definition (HD) between devices in the home, such as a set-top box, TV, PC, and mobile devices. It is the first home area network to demonstrate the speeds necessary for full wireless HD of up to 3Gb/s. The system can also be used to provide multi-camera coverage of live events in HD. “There is no time to compress the signal as the director needs to see live feed from every camera to decide which picture to use, and ours is the only technology which can deliver fast enough data rates to transmit uncompressed HD video/audio signals,” says Stöhr. The same technology has been demonstrated for access telecom networks and has delivered world record data rates of up to 12.5Gb/s over short- to medium-range wireless spans, or 1500 times the speed of upcoming 4G mobile networks. One way in which the technology can be deployed in the relatively short term, according to Stöhr, is wirelessly supporting very fast broadband to remote areas. “You can have your fibre in the ground delivering 10Gb/s but we can deliver this by air to remote areas where there is no fibre or to bridge gaps in fibre networks,” he says. Systems for outer space The project is also developing systems for space applications, working with the European Space Agency. Stöhr said he could not reveal details as this has not yet been made public, save to say the systems will operate in the 100GHz band and are needed immediately. There are various ongoing co-operation projects with industry to commercialise the
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday
I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday
Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday
Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday
They are asking us to partner with the State, but it is under debate. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday
Well, I don't like what they're saying, but they are quite dry. Maybe I demand more stimulation. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday
More with a government or non profit agency of some kind. I agree though, so far the best speakers are pushing for private public partnerships. With public being the main partner. marlon - Original Message - From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday They are asking us to partner with the State, but it is under debate. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday
460 viewers now Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:43:56 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday
Yeah. What do you make of this Sascha guy? He seems like one of the more reasonable people there and then he throws something in that makes me think he is hinting at GovMuniWifi On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: More with a government or non profit agency of some kind. I agree though, so far the best speakers are pushing for private public partnerships. With public being the main partner. marlon - Original Message - From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday They are asking us to partner with the State, but it is under debate. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday
Could this be as simple as a local college, school, or something else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday More with a government or non profit agency of some kind. I agree though, so far the best speakers are pushing for private public partnerships. With public being the main partner. marlon - Original Message - From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday They are asking us to partner with the State, but it is under debate. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday
We have had an on again/off again relationship with New America Foundation. Mostly we agree with them. They lean far more to locally built non profit or consumer created networks than commercial ones. marlon - Original Message - From: Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday Yeah. What do you make of this Sascha guy? He seems like one of the more reasonable people there and then he throws something in that makes me think he is hinting at GovMuniWifi On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: More with a government or non profit agency of some kind. I agree though, so far the best speakers are pushing for private public partnerships. With public being the main partner. marlon - Original Message - From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday They are asking us to partner with the State, but it is under debate. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday
How does one ask questions via the webcast? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday
I don't know. I've not been able to find that! I wonder if that was a slip up and he meant to say something else? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday How does one ask questions via the webcast? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday
Call 888.566.0969 .passcode1234 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:55:44 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday How does one ask questions via the webcast? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday
Tom DeReggi is speaking now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of a...@charlesstreetpartners.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday Call 888.566.0969 .passcode1234 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:55:44 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday How does one ask questions via the webcast? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday
Yes on Form 477! ;) V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday I don't know. I've not been able to find that! I wonder if that was a slip up and he meant to say something else? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday How does one ask questions via the webcast? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday
That transcript generator is horrible. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday
Yeah, it's a court stenographer. That's a tough job, particularly on tech stuff. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday That transcript generator is horrible. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday
I was ticked that Sasha rebutted my remarks regarding the 477 form but I did call back in and have on public record that we want the 477 form to be a criteria since it means we have been playing by the rules! And it will be too much of a bear to have thousands of apps without any prequels at all. And the lady that kept stressing government involvement (Betty - ugh!). I could barely sit down through that whole meeting. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Yes on Form 477! ;) V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday I don't know. I've not been able to find that! I wonder if that was a slip up and he meant to say something else? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday How does one ask questions via the webcast? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday
Good job! I submitted the question too, maybe if there is a big showing of support that will help. Thanks, Victoria Proffer CEO StLouisBroadband.com MissouriRuralWireless.com 314.974.5600 SBA Certified WOSB -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Denise Hamilton Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday I was ticked that Sasha rebutted my remarks regarding the 477 form but I did call back in and have on public record that we want the 477 form to be a criteria since it means we have been playing by the rules! And it will be too much of a bear to have thousands of apps without any prequels at all. And the lady that kept stressing government involvement (Betty - ugh!). I could barely sit down through that whole meeting. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Yes on Form 477! ;) V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday I don't know. I've not been able to find that! I wonder if that was a slip up and he meant to say something else? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday How does one ask questions via the webcast? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday
Link to public comments is on the title page, not page with video. http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/ Submit Public Comments link Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. 812-936-4514 dren...@netsurfusa.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Denise Hamilton Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday I was ticked that Sasha rebutted my remarks regarding the 477 form but I did call back in and have on public record that we want the 477 form to be a criteria since it means we have been playing by the rules! And it will be too much of a bear to have thousands of apps without any prequels at all. And the lady that kept stressing government involvement (Betty - ugh!). I could barely sit down through that whole meeting. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Yes on Form 477! ;) V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday I don't know. I've not been able to find that! I wonder if that was a slip up and he meant to say something else? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday How does one ask questions via the webcast? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday
Are the other meetings today work watching? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday
I am on one now regarding coordination between NTIA and RUS. Then at 2:45 is Innovative Programs Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Mike Hammett wrote: Are the other meetings today work watching? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ?
Thanks for the humor, Marlon! The romans infested my network last night. To make room for a new backhaul and some other stuff, we changed out our largest site last night - everything new and also containing all new IP's and routing. Unfortunately, I had accidently put a routing loop in the backhaul device, and when we hooked it up, we instantly buried the CPU with routing loops and it took me 2 hours to fix it remotely - mostly waiting for a totally buried CPU to respond to SSH input Then, just an hour or so later, the radio on the other end of the backhaul died. This after renumbering and re-routing about 100 clients.So, then, I had to find a way to revert everyone bak to the OLD provider All that was on the OLD hardware. I got done (gave up) after getting most of the clients working about 11 pm. Worked on it some more at home till around 1:00 am... The phone was ringing at 8:05, after I'd gotten about 5 hours of sleep... Ok, that's it. I'm ready for sleep again... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ? In many ways this is certainly true. Look at the Roman water systems and roads. Where are the Romans now? Oh, never mind. lol marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday
Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday We have had an on again/off again relationship with New America Foundation. Mostly we agree with them. They lean far more to locally built non profit or consumer created networks than commercial ones. marlon - Original Message - From: Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday Yeah. What do you make of this Sascha guy? He seems like one of the more reasonable people there and then he throws something in that makes me think he is hinting at GovMuniWifi On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: More with a government or non profit agency of some kind. I agree though, so far the best speakers are pushing for private public partnerships. With public being the main partner. marlon - Original Message - From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday They are asking us to partner with the State, but it is under debate. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ?
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: This after renumbering and re-routing about 100 clients.So, then, I had to find a way to revert everyone bak to the OLD provider All that was on the OLD hardware. I got done (gave up) after getting most of the clients working about 11 pm. Worked on it some more at home till around 1:00 am... Yikes. I've been through a renumbering, I feel your pain. Since you mentioned providers' numbers, are you using IP space from your upstream(s)? If you're big enough, the money you'll spend on an ARIN membership is well worth it, just to get your own IP space. You'll hopefully never have to renumber again, and that peace-of-mind is well worth the money. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday
I do not think that these folks have a cure as to what to do. listening to this is putting me to sleep --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote: From: Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 1:08 PM Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday We have had an on again/off again relationship with New America Foundation. Mostly we agree with them. They lean far more to locally built non profit or consumer created networks than commercial ones. marlon - Original Message - From: Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday Yeah. What do you make of this Sascha guy? He seems like one of the more reasonable people there and then he throws something in that makes me think he is hinting at GovMuniWifi On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: More with a government or non profit agency of some kind. I agree though, so far the best speakers are pushing for private public partnerships. With public being the main partner. marlon - Original Message - From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday They are asking us to partner with the State, but it is under debate. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] OT Number Porting Question
We had a landline number with Verizon ported to a cellphone with Verizon Wireless. Now we are trying to port the number to Cablevision that provides triple play. We are being told that they can't port a cell number because it belongs to the cell company. I told them the whole story how it came from a landline and they are still saying it can't be done Anyone shed light on this? Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question
I have heard of a situation when a cable line can't be ported to Sprint or ATT because it has to be ported back to SBC or the telco first. I think this has to do with Digital from the Cable company. I wonder if this is the same situation? I don't believe that this really is the situation, but this is the story. Did you ask for a supervisor? Sometimes first line service people don't know everything and you need to ask for their supervisor to get an answer. However, numbers don't belong to carriers anymore, so they are wrong in that respect. My guess is they just don't know or don't want to explain that they can't do it. Martha Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: We had a landline number with Verizon ported to a cellphone with Verizon Wireless. Now we are trying to port the number to Cablevision that provides triple play. We are being told that they can't port a cell number because it belongs to the cell company. I told them the whole story how it came from a landline and they are still saying it can't be done Anyone shed light on this? Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question
Pretty rare to have a number that can't be ported. Keep pressing the issue with your new provider and the losing carrier. Eventually you'll get it ported. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question We had a landline number with Verizon ported to a cellphone with Verizon Wireless. Now we are trying to port the number to Cablevision that provides triple play. We are being told that they can't port a cell number because it belongs to the cell company. I told them the whole story how it came from a landline and they are still saying it can't be done Anyone shed light on this? Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] speaking of ARIN
We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday
LOL!!! That's a very sharp and good point. Complaints are one thing, but naked whining about past employers will never cut it :) And you're very right... There's always a way to promote positively what you're for, even if you're advocating undoing everything the people you're talking to have just done. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday We have had an on again/off again relationship with New America Foundation. Mostly we agree with them. They lean far more to locally built non profit or consumer created networks than commercial ones. marlon - Original Message - From: Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday Yeah. What do you make of this Sascha guy? He seems like one of the more reasonable people there and then he throws something in that makes me think he is hinting at GovMuniWifi On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: More with a government or non profit agency of some kind. I agree though, so far the best speakers are pushing for private public partnerships. With public being the main partner. marlon - Original Message - From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday They are asking us to partner with the State, but it is under debate. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants
Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ?
no, don't have my own space yet. The renumbering isn't normally too bad. I did that not long ago, to shuffle around some subnets and make space for more clients. Painlessly and nobody noticed. However, I have ONE access point that's legacy with clients back from my startup time and it has a number of non-dhcp clients on it. This WILL involve a lot of drive time, to get all them fixed. The access points themselves do all the routing and store the DHCP settings, so, it's just a matter of downloading the config, hand altering it, and uploading. Our ip's are assigned to MAC addresses and it's really not all that troublesome. I just use a word processor and and do a replace for the first 3 and hand assign the rest.Takes perhaps 10 minutes per AP. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ? rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: This after renumbering and re-routing about 100 clients.So, then, I had to find a way to revert everyone bak to the OLD provider All that was on the OLD hardware. I got done (gave up) after getting most of the clients working about 11 pm. Worked on it some more at home till around 1:00 am... Yikes. I've been through a renumbering, I feel your pain. Since you mentioned providers' numbers, are you using IP space from your upstream(s)? If you're big enough, the money you'll spend on an ARIN membership is well worth it, just to get your own IP space. You'll hopefully never have to renumber again, and that peace-of-mind is well worth the money. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question
My porting guru tells me that we could port that number. But this is not a sales pitch -- if we can do it, others can do it. Someone must be giving you bad information, or the runaround on the port. Ron -Original Message- From: lakel...@gbcx.net [mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question We had a landline number with Verizon ported to a cellphone with Verizon Wireless. Now we are trying to port the number to Cablevision that provides triple play. We are being told that they can't port a cell number because it belongs to the cell company. I told them the whole story how it came from a landline and they are still saying it can't be done Anyone shed light on this? Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ?
If you have a router in front of them create a src nat and dst nat rule for them then you can take it easy or not bother do the truck roll and just do it if you want in the area of one of the clients. Very easy to do with something like a MikroTik, StarOS or Imagestream router. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:51:49 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ? no, don't have my own space yet. The renumbering isn't normally too bad. I did that not long ago, to shuffle around some subnets and make space for more clients. Painlessly and nobody noticed. However, I have ONE access point that's legacy with clients back from my startup time and it has a number of non-dhcp clients on it. This WILL involve a lot of drive time, to get all them fixed. The access points themselves do all the routing and store the DHCP settings, so, it's just a matter of downloading the config, hand altering it, and uploading. Our ip's are assigned to MAC addresses and it's really not all that troublesome. I just use a word processor and and do a replace for the first 3 and hand assign the rest.Takes perhaps 10 minutes per AP. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ? rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: This after renumbering and re-routing about 100 clients.So, then, I had to find a way to revert everyone bak to the OLD provider All that was on the OLD hardware. I got done (gave up) after getting most of the clients working about 11 pm. Worked on it some more at home till around 1:00 am... Yikes. I've been through a renumbering, I feel your pain. Since you mentioned providers' numbers, are you using IP space from your upstream(s)? If you're big enough, the money you'll spend on an ARIN membership is well worth it, just to get your own IP space. You'll hopefully never have to renumber again, and that peace-of-mind is well worth the money. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question
Some origination carriers can, others can't. Depends on the exchange. On 3/16/09, Ron Harden rhar...@voxcorp.net wrote: My porting guru tells me that we could port that number. But this is not a sales pitch -- if we can do it, others can do it. Someone must be giving you bad information, or the runaround on the port. Ron -Original Message- From: lakel...@gbcx.net [mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question We had a landline number with Verizon ported to a cellphone with Verizon Wireless. Now we are trying to port the number to Cablevision that provides triple play. We are being told that they can't port a cell number because it belongs to the cell company. I told them the whole story how it came from a landline and they are still saying it can't be done Anyone shed light on this? Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote: Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... Can you provide more detail about the complaining you are referencing above. I did not see it. I was at the doctor earlier today and missed it all. :-( Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday
John, Sasha did not go on a rant per say but would make a disparaging remark with his other comments. When I mentioned that a good matrix to start for the prerequisites on getting an grant application submitted would be submittal of the 477 form he mentioned how all of that data is not very good anyway. And when the government was mentioning how we need to work within the government to get anywhere he mentioned how the government is not helpful in working together. There are other examples and I am just paraphrasing but please look at the transcripts and let me know if you think I am off base here. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote: Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... Can you provide more detail about the complaining you are referencing above. I did not see it. I was at the doctor earlier today and missed it all. :-( Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday
Does anyone have a link to any other transcript copies other than what's available at NTIA? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Denise Hamilton Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday John, Sasha did not go on a rant per say but would make a disparaging remark with his other comments. When I mentioned that a good matrix to start for the prerequisites on getting an grant application submitted would be submittal of the 477 form he mentioned how all of that data is not very good anyway. And when the government was mentioning how we need to work within the government to get anywhere he mentioned how the government is not helpful in working together. There are other examples and I am just paraphrasing but please look at the transcripts and let me know if you think I am off base here. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote: Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... Can you provide more detail about the complaining you are referencing above. I did not see it. I was at the doctor earlier today and missed it all. :-( Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
roflol We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. Wanna know the best part? We had people in census tracts that hit THREE different zip codes! Our total time is much closer to 50 hours than 5 hours. I'd not be surprised to find out it took even more than 50. marlon - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
You should submit something to the FCC in comments. I am pretty sure on their web site it says the average will be 5 hours or something like that. :-) Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: roflol We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. Wanna know the best part? We had people in census tracts that hit THREE different zip codes! Our total time is much closer to 50 hours than 5 hours. I'd not be surprised to find out it took even more than 50. marlon - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. We went from about twenty-five ZIPs to.. about twenty-five census tracts. There was basically no correlation between the two, of course. Even after paying someone to geo-code our customer list, we still had to review about half our customers and assign them tracts by hand. (If your customer base is heavily urbanized, I imagine you could automatically geocode a lot more customers; we have a lot of Rural Route addresses, which tend to get put in comically wrong places.) At least next time around it'll be less painful. (We're retaining the customer-census associations, so we'll only have to manually map our new customers. This will work until, say, 2012 or so, when they draw up new tracts based on the 2010 census.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Did you guys end up creating a CSV file to upload, or do it by hand, by tract? David E. Smith wrote: Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. We went from about twenty-five ZIPs to.. about twenty-five census tracts. There was basically no correlation between the two, of course. Even after paying someone to geo-code our customer list, we still had to review about half our customers and assign them tracts by hand. (If your customer base is heavily urbanized, I imagine you could automatically geocode a lot more customers; we have a lot of Rural Route addresses, which tend to get put in comically wrong places.) At least next time around it'll be less painful. (We're retaining the customer-census associations, so we'll only have to manually map our new customers. This will work until, say, 2012 or so, when they draw up new tracts based on the 2010 census.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
I'm sure the FCC guys really appreciate all that free labor that's being done for them. Any bets they get up in front of Congress and praise you for doing it? Or, do you suppose they'll take the credit? Maybe a good stiff tax hike would make you feel better? insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday
All I have found so far is: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/meetings.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday Does anyone have a link to any other transcript copies other than what's available at NTIA? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Denise Hamilton Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday John, Sasha did not go on a rant per say but would make a disparaging remark with his other comments. When I mentioned that a good matrix to start for the prerequisites on getting an grant application submitted would be submittal of the 477 form he mentioned how all of that data is not very good anyway. And when the government was mentioning how we need to work within the government to get anywhere he mentioned how the government is not helpful in working together. There are other examples and I am just paraphrasing but please look at the transcripts and let me know if you think I am off base here. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote: Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... Can you provide more detail about the complaining you are referencing above. I did not see it. I was at the doctor earlier today and missed it all. :-( Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
By hand. But we're going to see if we can set up access to give us the right csv data. We'll have to add several new fields and create (like we did for the current silly form) speed classifications for many of our customers. The REALLY silly part for us? Most of our business customers buy the same type of account that our residential customers. Yet they (the fcc) think that there should be some quick and easy way for us to tell the difference based on something that we don't even keep track of. deep sigh marlon - Original Message - From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Did you guys end up creating a CSV file to upload, or do it by hand, by tract? David E. Smith wrote: Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. We went from about twenty-five ZIPs to.. about twenty-five census tracts. There was basically no correlation between the two, of course. Even after paying someone to geo-code our customer list, we still had to review about half our customers and assign them tracts by hand. (If your customer base is heavily urbanized, I imagine you could automatically geocode a lot more customers; we have a lot of Rural Route addresses, which tend to get put in comically wrong places.) At least next time around it'll be less painful. (We're retaining the customer-census associations, so we'll only have to manually map our new customers. This will work until, say, 2012 or so, when they draw up new tracts based on the 2010 census.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
We had to deal with 38 records and 22 census tracts. marlon - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. We went from about twenty-five ZIPs to.. about twenty-five census tracts. There was basically no correlation between the two, of course. Even after paying someone to geo-code our customer list, we still had to review about half our customers and assign them tracts by hand. (If your customer base is heavily urbanized, I imagine you could automatically geocode a lot more customers; we have a lot of Rural Route addresses, which tend to get put in comically wrong places.) At least next time around it'll be less painful. (We're retaining the customer-census associations, so we'll only have to manually map our new customers. This will work until, say, 2012 or so, when they draw up new tracts based on the 2010 census.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
With the information that Brian Webster generated for us, we did the filing in 5 minutes. I highly recommend if you are getting close to crunch time and are looking up tract data to give him a shot on this. Best $100 I ever spent. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question
About the only US numbers that Can't be ported are the so called AAA DID's that the paging companies use Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box 6115 Falmouth, ME 04105 TEL: 207-781-5561 FAX: 207-781-8067 MOBILE: 207-831-5829 PAGE: 2078315...@vtext.com AOLIM: OzCom1 ICQ: 206889374 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net Blog: http://streamlinesolutionsllc.blogspot.com/ http://www.streamline-solutions.net http://www.WMDaWARe.com Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question Some origination carriers can, others can't. Depends on the exchange. On 3/16/09, Ron Harden rhar...@voxcorp.net wrote: My porting guru tells me that we could port that number. But this is not a sales pitch -- if we can do it, others can do it. Someone must be giving you bad information, or the runaround on the port. Ron -Original Message- From: lakel...@gbcx.net [mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question We had a landline number with Verizon ported to a cellphone with Verizon Wireless. Now we are trying to port the number to Cablevision that provides triple play. We are being told that they can't port a cell number because it belongs to the cell company. I told them the whole story how it came from a landline and they are still saying it can't be done Anyone shed light on this? Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Randy Cosby wrote: Did you guys end up creating a CSV file to upload, or do it by hand, by tract? I ended up doing the CSV thing. I had to correlate our billing system, our in-house IP management system, and two spreadsheets, to get all their requested data (and I'm still not confident it's 100% accurate in every detail, but it was the best I could do). Ended up being a lot easier to just add a little spit out a CSV code at the end, than to try to enter seventy-some-odd numbers into those great big tables. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Another OT Question :-)
Does a Cisco 2955 have a GUI interface. Does it have a read (look) only login option? Tnx Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question
Thanks to all Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Aaron D. Osgood aosg...@streamline-solutions.net Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:39:22 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question About the only US numbers that Can't be ported are the so called AAA DID's that the paging companies use Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box 6115 Falmouth, ME 04105 TEL: 207-781-5561 FAX: 207-781-8067 MOBILE: 207-831-5829 PAGE: 2078315...@vtext.com AOLIM: OzCom1 ICQ: 206889374 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net Blog: http://streamlinesolutionsllc.blogspot.com/ http://www.streamline-solutions.net http://www.WMDaWARe.com Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question Some origination carriers can, others can't. Depends on the exchange. On 3/16/09, Ron Harden rhar...@voxcorp.net wrote: My porting guru tells me that we could port that number. But this is not a sales pitch -- if we can do it, others can do it. Someone must be giving you bad information, or the runaround on the port. Ron -Original Message- From: lakel...@gbcx.net [mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question We had a landline number with Verizon ported to a cellphone with Verizon Wireless. Now we are trying to port the number to Cablevision that provides triple play. We are being told that they can't port a cell number because it belongs to the cell company. I told them the whole story how it came from a landline and they are still saying it can't be done Anyone shed light on this? Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
I did ours by hand. I had the customers in a spreadsheet, by address and speed. Then I had to go through the addresses to make sure that they were correct. Some of our customers bill to an address that is not their home address, so I had to change it. Then I sorted by Zip and went through with the PDF of the census tract, by hand and populated the census tract. The CSV looked even more complicated. Most of my users are in Quickbooks and although we also have an Access database for our technical info, there were new fields to add. Wasn't sure how to add these new fields and make sure it was right. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* David E. Smith wrote: Randy Cosby wrote: Did you guys end up creating a CSV file to upload, or do it by hand, by tract? I ended up doing the CSV thing. I had to correlate our billing system, our in-house IP management system, and two spreadsheets, to get all their requested data (and I'm still not confident it's 100% accurate in every detail, but it was the best I could do). Ended up being a lot easier to just add a little spit out a CSV code at the end, than to try to enter seventy-some-odd numbers into those great big tables. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Right on the FCC's site was a link to an address lookup utility. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 I have close to 5 hrs in and only have about 100 wireless customers. Had to manually plot the on a map to find their census tract because al of my address did not plot properly. Cannot imagine the work it would take with thousands of customers... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Martha Huizenga Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 You should submit something to the FCC in comments. I am pretty sure on their web site it says the average will be 5 hours or something like that. :-) Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: roflol We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. Wanna know the best part? We had people in census tracts that hit THREE different zip codes! Our total time is much closer to 50 hours than 5 hours. I'd not be surprised to find out it took even more than 50. marlon - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
[WISPA] Need service near San Diego, CA
Need descent 2mb/s symmetrical package or so for this address: 31812 Rancho Amigos RD Bonsall CA 92003 Please contact off list if you have any service, thanks. `S WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Yeah, it is the opposite in many rural states. I can name one state that has 2 census tracts and 7 zip codes. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 3/16/2009 7:04 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
I agree, but did you check the data? PO Boxes don't convert. It just left them blank. I had one area where 50% of the addresses came back in the wrong county. I don't think that was Brian's fault at all, but the lookup engine just missed. Some others where we had to massage the data to get the format because the tracts with decimal did not all get formatted right when we imported the data. Overall a huge thanks to Brian!!! But even with that it took us probably a total of 30 hours for about 1500 clients. The 5 hours was about right for a group of about 300 clients. Cliff Olle wrote: With the information that Brian Webster generated for us, we did the filing in 5 minutes. I highly recommend if you are getting close to crunch time and are looking up tract data to give him a shot on this. Best $100 I ever spent. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07:04:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest
Re: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday
Denise, Great Job, getting another WISP comment on the record! Form 477 was an important one to get in. I will comment in more detail on the member's list. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday I was ticked that Sasha rebutted my remarks regarding the 477 form but I did call back in and have on public record that we want the 477 form to be a criteria since it means we have been playing by the rules! And it will be too much of a bear to have thousands of apps without any prequels at all. And the lady that kept stressing government involvement (Betty - ugh!). I could barely sit down through that whole meeting. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Yes on Form 477! ;) V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday I don't know. I've not been able to find that! I wonder if that was a slip up and he meant to say something else? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday How does one ask questions via the webcast? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 3/16/2009 7:04 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another OT Question :-)
Its has a gui tool you need to download ... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Another OT Question :-) Does a Cisco 2955 have a GUI interface. Does it have a read (look) only login option? Tnx Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
The 23 page instruction doc shows Estimated Average Burden Hours per Response: 72 hours I have between 20 and 30 hours on mine. Census tracts about double the number of zip codes, but yes, we'll keep the data, start tracking it on new customers and use the csv option next time On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: Yeah, it is the opposite in many rural states. I can name one state that has 2 census tracts and 7 zip codes. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
[WISPA] Has anybody received a 3.65GHz license in a satellite exclusion zone?
I fall just on the edge of one. I wanted to know what others have experienced in this regard. Thanks, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
I think it took me about four hours to do my 33 households. (to complete entire 477) This was converting six zip codes into seven census tracts, so I still don't see much advantage to the switch. So the census tracts might change in 2012? Dang! So should we be saving the LAT/LON of the customer location, or something, to make it easier to re-code them in the future? I think the government owes us a free way to geo-code addresses in bulk. At least I don't need Excel anymore. On Mar 16, 2009, at 4:55 PM, David E. Smith wrote: At least next time around it'll be less painful. (We're retaining the customer-census associations, so we'll only have to manually map our new customers. This will work until, say, 2012 or so, when they draw up new tracts based on the 2010 census.) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Today's meetings
Do we know any more than we did yesterday? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Today's meetings
No, because panelists spoke, not NTIA policy makers. What we do know is we have a lot of work todo, to fight individuals advocating for states. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Today's meetings Do we know any more than we did yesterday? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 3/16/2009 7:04 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday
Steve Smith got a good summary of last weeks session in DC. Steve , if you're out there can you get a summary of todays activities and share it with the group .??? Many thanks , Al Schneider -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday Does anyone have a link to any other transcript copies other than what's available at NTIA? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Denise Hamilton Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday John, Sasha did not go on a rant per say but would make a disparaging remark with his other comments. When I mentioned that a good matrix to start for the prerequisites on getting an grant application submitted would be submittal of the 477 form he mentioned how all of that data is not very good anyway. And when the government was mentioning how we need to work within the government to get anywhere he mentioned how the government is not helpful in working together. There are other examples and I am just paraphrasing but please look at the transcripts and let me know if you think I am off base here. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote: Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... Can you provide more detail about the complaining you are referencing above. I did not see it. I was at the doctor earlier today and missed it all. :-( Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.12/1998 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 6:23 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.12/1998 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 6:23 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion B100 Throughput
Depends on the frequency. 3-9 miles links we've seen 55-60Mbps on a 40MHz channel w/5.4GHz. However, because the radio has to change frequencies due to DFS, it's not consistent. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:56 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: What are you guys seeing with this unit. Looking to compare with my experience Tnx -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourcing Email and Webhosting
PostPath is a drop in replacement for Exchange that runs on Linux. Cisco bought PostPath, so it will be interesting to see what happens in the future. http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2008/corp_091808.html John Josh Luthman wrote: Google is free. Exchange I know costs a copy of Windows 2003 or 2008 plus Exchange. I'm told the price isn't too bad, but that's coming from a Windows-only person. Also factor in your monthly hosting fee if that's the route you go. On 3/14/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We thought of it ... Costs? How about exchange? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 10:15 AM To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: Re: [Motorola II] [WISPA] Outsourcing Email and Webhosting If you want to set it and forget it..Google Apps partner edition. On 3/14/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Hey All We have been thinkig of outsourcing all our webhosting/email services, including regular pop3 and exchange, Anyone can recommend a solid service provider? we have about 50 domains. Just one using exchange, butt would like to start offering exchange hosting Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
What is the due date for that form? Cliff Olle wrote: With the information that Brian Webster generated for us, we did the filing in 5 minutes. I highly recommend if you are getting close to crunch time and are looking up tract data to give him a shot on this. Best $100 I ever spent. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: "Scott Piehn" li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: "Scott Carullo" sc...@brevardwireless.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: "Marlon K. Schafer" o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ?
If you are big enough, or if you are multihomed you can get PI space John David E. Smith wrote: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: This after renumbering and re-routing about 100 clients.So, then, I had to find a way to revert everyone bak to the OLD provider All that was on the OLD hardware. I got done (gave up) after getting most of the clients working about 11 pm. Worked on it some more at home till around 1:00 am... Yikes. I've been through a renumbering, I feel your pain. Since you mentioned providers' numbers, are you using IP space from your upstream(s)? If you're big enough, the money you'll spend on an ARIN membership is well worth it, just to get your own IP space. You'll hopefully never have to renumber again, and that peace-of-mind is well worth the money. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
If you are multihomed you need to justify a /22 ( 4 Class C's) and if you are not, then you will need to justify a /20 ( 16 class C's) John Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)
If you're asking about form 477 the due date is in 22 minutes. http://www.fcc.gov/form477/ JUST got ours in 20 min ago. Shew!!! Only took 2 guys 7 hours straight to churn the data into FCC acceptabledata. I'll keep my comments to myself on this. Dylan From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN What is the due date for that form? Cliff Olle wrote: With the information that Brian Webster generated for us, we did the filing in 5 minutes. I highly recommend if you are getting close to crunch time and are looking up tract data to give him a shot on this. Best $100 I ever spent. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com mailto:li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Today's meetings
I need to retract a comment that I made unclearly. What we do know is we have a lot of work todo, to fight individuals advocating for states. I did not mean that we should fight states. I think it is important that we continue to work with our States, to improve our communication, and discuss the roles that are best for each of us. It was mandated by congress that NTIA consults States, and it is just common sense for us to coordinate with States who may already have put in lot of time and resources determining the needs of their State. What I meant by the above quote was that, there were some comment made at the NTIA public meeting today thst were not ISP/WISP friendly. We need to fight the comments made by those advocates. They did NOT promote fair working relationships between local ISPs and the States. The comments were very Anti-ISP, and State advocates were highly in favor of States having full control of Grant proceeds, apposed to private sector ISPs being eligible. We had to remind them that Congress also mandated that ISPs be eligible, if they could prove public interest good. The first half of the panel discussion was on what constituted public interest good. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Today's meetings No, because panelists spoke, not NTIA policy makers. What we do know is we have a lot of work todo, to fight individuals advocating for states. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Today's meetings Do we know any more than we did yesterday? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 3/16/2009 7:04 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 3/16/2009 7:04 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
