Re: [WISPA] Off Topic // Looking for Vehicle Advertising Ideas
We've only had one stolen so far. Which I am surprised about since we are in the city. Never lost any. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* RickG wrote: I put them on my installers vehicles but usually they get lost or stolen. -RickG On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote: We have magnet signs on our car. We get calls from these. I got them from VistaPrint.com. You upload your logo and design them yourself. They are about $15 a piece. At least you can try them out and see if it works before spending anything larger. Martha Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Just take your company logo down to your local sign shop and tell them you want to put vinyl lettering on your vehicles. They can take digital pictures of the vehicle, then place the logo and whatever writing (website, phone, etc) on the vehicle and you can look at it, make changes, and then they just print them out and stick them on. We have all of our company vehicles marked... and we actually generate sales from it. We pay about $300 per vehicle (including installation). I know the complete vehicle wraps are about $3,000 installed... that seems like a waste of money to me... Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Looking at some sort of vehicle advertising or maybe a complete vehicle wrap. Was wondering if anyone could share pics of what they might have or what you have seen that you like... Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Off Topic // Looking for Vehicle Advertising Ideas
They stole your magnetic signs? Why? Giant frig magnets? or are they putting new writing on them? Scott -- Original Message -- From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:04:39 -0400 We've only had one stolen so far. Which I am surprised about since we are in the city. Never lost any. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* RickG wrote: I put them on my installers vehicles but usually they get lost or stolen. -RickG On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote: We have magnet signs on our car. We get calls from these. I got them from VistaPrint.com. You upload your logo and design them yourself. They are about $15 a piece. At least you can try them out and see if it works before spending anything larger. Martha Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Just take your company logo down to your local sign shop and tell them you want to put vinyl lettering on your vehicles. They can take digital pictures of the vehicle, then place the logo and whatever writing (website, phone, etc) on the vehicle and you can look at it, make changes, and then they just print them out and stick them on. We have all of our company vehicles marked... and we actually generate sales from it. We pay about $300 per vehicle (including installation). I know the complete vehicle wraps are about $3,000 installed... that seems like a waste of money to me... Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Looking at some sort of vehicle advertising or maybe a complete vehicle wrap. Was wondering if anyone could share pics of what they might have or what you have seen that you like... Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] SiteMonitor (Base) IP address?
Happy Easter everyone, I just got a SiteMonitor from PacketFlux and am trying to get it going. I thought I would find some instructions in the box but I was wrong. does anyone know the IP settings for this thing? Thinking it would try to pick up an address from my dhcp server I just hooked it up but it didn't. Any idea? Adam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SiteMonitor (Base) IP address?
Found it! http://manuals.packetflux.com/index.php?page=accessing-the-device The default IP address is: 169.254.1.20 On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Adam Goodman a...@wispring.com wrote: Happy Easter everyone, I just got a SiteMonitor from PacketFlux and am trying to get it going. I thought I would find some instructions in the box but I was wrong. does anyone know the IP settings for this thing? Thinking it would try to pick up an address from my dhcp server I just hooked it up but it didn't. Any idea? Adam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] DC power reset
Looking for a device to power cycle multiple 48 vDC devices, preferably Ethernet based. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Fiber cut in SF area
Gino Villarini wrote: Someone should be using this example in a way to push wireless as a 2nd option for bup and redundancy If I remember right, they had redundant fiber there already. I also remember something about the person doing it knowing that and cutting both sides of the ring. Agreed, though -- secondary wireless connections would be a good backup in these sorts of situations, particularly when temperaments of union members have been high. I was actually in Cupertino when it happened (on Apple's campus), and I noticed a blip in my iPhone's data services at that time. I never knew what it was until I said something to my friend at Apple, and he had just heard the news. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Fiber cut in SF area
I was in Gilroy that day which was the longest and hardest hit area. Everything was cash only. However, seeing we backhaul everything wirelessly our customers still happily kept plugging along. Andrew MacLeod Network Operations Manager Etheric Networks 877.541.3905 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2009, at 17:28, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Two big towers would get above buildings, interference wouldn't be a problem if they could get even more spectrum to themselves. On 4/11/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: I would imagine trying to do any kind of wireless, even licensed, could be very difficult in the LA / SF / SJ areas Travis Gino Villarini wrote: Someone should be using this example in a way to push wireless as a 2nd option for bup and redundancy Gino Sent from my Motorola Startac... Begin forwarded message: From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com Date: April 11, 2009 7:25:26 PM GMT-04:00 To: Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com Cc: na...@nanog.org Subject: Re: Fiber cut in SF area Anyone know how banks in the Bay Area did through this? I wonder how many banks went dark and whether they had any backup plans/ connectivity. Me thinks its doubtful. I also wonder if the bigger pharmacies such as Longs, Walgreens, Rite-Aid, Etc had thought about these kinds of issues? I personally doubt it. I bet you they went dark along with everyone else. Unfortunate. The funny thing is that the California lottery would be somewhat immuned to this kind of disaster as they actually use Hughes VSAT at every single retailer. Sorry for the random thoughts... -Mike On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote: On Sat, 11 Apr 2009, Roger Marquis wrote: The real problem is route redundancy. This is what the original contract from DARPA to BBM, to create the Internet, was about! The net was created to enable communications bttn point A and point B in this exact scenario. Uh, not exactly. There was diversity in this case, but there was also N+1 breaks. Outside of a few counties in the Bay Area, the rest of the country's telecommunication system was unaffected. So in that sense the system worked as designed. Read the original DARPA papers, they were not about making sure grandma could still make a phone call. For a good man in the street perspective of how the outage effected things like a pharmacy's ability to fill subscriptions and a university computer's ability to boot check out a couple of shows broadcast on KUSP (Santa Cruz Public Radio) this morning: Why didn't the man in the street pharmacy have its own backup plans? Why didn't the pharmacy also have a COMCAST or RCN broadband connection for alternative Internet access besides ATT or Verizon, a Citizens Band radio channel 9 for alternative emergency communications besides 9-1-1, a satellite phone for alternative communications besides local cell phones, and a Hughes VSAT dish for yet even more diversity? Why was the pharmacy relying on a single provider? Or do it the old-fashion way before computers and telecommunications; keep a backup paper file of their records so they could continue to fill prescriptions? Why didn't the pharmacy have more self-diversity? Probably the usual reason, more diversity costs more. That may be the reason why hospitals have more diversity than neighborhood pharmacies; and emergency rooms have other ways to get medicine. Maintaining diversity and backups is probably also part of the reason why filling a prescription at a hospital is much more expensive than filling a prescription at your neighborhood pharmacy. Likewise, why didn't grandma have her own pharmacy backup plan. Don't wait until the last minute to refill a critical presciption, have backup copies of prescriptions with her doctor, have an account with an alternative pharmacist in case her primary pharmacist isn't reachable, etc. Readiness works better if everyone does their part, including grandma. Next time it won't be ATT, it will be Cox or Comcast or Qwest or Level 3 or Global Crossing or or or . It won't be vandalism, it will be an earthquake, backhoe, gas main explosion, operator error, Everything fails sometimes. What's your plan? http://www.ready.gov/ personal opinion only --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't
Re: [WISPA] DC power reset
http://digital-loggers.com/EPC.pdf This is the AC one, we heard that they are now making a DC unit. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DC power reset Looking for a device to power cycle multiple 48 vDC devices, preferably Ethernet based. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power reset
http://digital-loggers.com/48.html Indeed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power reset http://digital-loggers.com/EPC.pdf This is the AC one, we heard that they are now making a DC unit. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DC power reset Looking for a device to power cycle multiple 48 vDC devices, preferably Ethernet based. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power reset
http://digital-loggers.com/48.html Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:14 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power reset http://digital-loggers.com/EPC.pdf This is the AC one, we heard that they are now making a DC unit. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DC power reset Looking for a device to power cycle multiple 48 vDC devices, preferably Ethernet based. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power reset
We've also used Control by Web in some cases. Good people with a very reliable product. Ten relays rather than eight and a couple hundred less than the DLI-48, but without an auto-ping reboot feature. http://www.controlbyweb.com/webrelay-10/index.html Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:56 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power reset http://digital-loggers.com/48.html Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:14 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power reset http://digital-loggers.com/EPC.pdf This is the AC one, we heard that they are now making a DC unit. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DC power reset Looking for a device to power cycle multiple 48 vDC devices, preferably Ethernet based. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Off Topic // Looking for Vehicle Advertising Ideas
Not sure - they just disappear off vehicles. Could be kids, or fell off in car wash, or ? On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: They stole your magnetic signs? Why? Giant frig magnets? or are they putting new writing on them? Scott -- Original Message -- From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:04:39 -0400 We've only had one stolen so far. Which I am surprised about since we are in the city. Never lost any. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* RickG wrote: I put them on my installers vehicles but usually they get lost or stolen. -RickG On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote: We have magnet signs on our car. We get calls from these. I got them from VistaPrint.com. You upload your logo and design them yourself. They are about $15 a piece. At least you can try them out and see if it works before spending anything larger. Martha Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Just take your company logo down to your local sign shop and tell them you want to put vinyl lettering on your vehicles. They can take digital pictures of the vehicle, then place the logo and whatever writing (website, phone, etc) on the vehicle and you can look at it, make changes, and then they just print them out and stick them on. We have all of our company vehicles marked... and we actually generate sales from it. We pay about $300 per vehicle (including installation). I know the complete vehicle wraps are about $3,000 installed... that seems like a waste of money to me... Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Looking at some sort of vehicle advertising or maybe a complete vehicle wrap. Was wondering if anyone could share pics of what they might have or what you have seen that you like... Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner Tests $150-Per-Month Unlimited Internet
On a somewhat related note, does anyone here use open source packet shaping solutions? I've only used Packeteer in production (enterprise environment), but I'm always on the lookout for good other solutions. Right now, I'm using BSD-based pfSense at home, and that seems to be working great. Others I know are just using OpenBSD proper and just putting it in transparent mode. I'd love to know what others find most appropriate for their environments, particularly in WISP sort of environments. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE
Jon Auer wrote: http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog Also join Cisco-NSP if you are interested in Cisco gear: http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp And the Outages list occasionally informative: https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages Ditto on both lists. I've been on them both for a few months now and have found them very helpful. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dumb question?
Gino Villarini wrote:p Easy, the current Wimax MAC (802.16d and e) was designed for licensed frequencies, noise is not well handled by the protocol I'll have to admit believing some of the WiMAX hype until I heard this fact several months ago. The only people I see taking WiMAX seriously are service providers and carriers, particularly those who want to preserve their spectrum. They don't have to worry about competing noise because of their sole license. In many of these cases, they are buying the equipment for little more than to preserve the right to do what they want on that frequency. Is this what others are seeing also? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5.9 GHz ITS
Has anyone here implemented the 5.9 GHz band for ITS (Intelligent Transportation Services)? I'm looking at some projects that might be a good fit and have recently started researching vendors that do it, as well as some of the regulatory characteristics of the band. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] STP for redundancy on two panels horiz/vert oriented?
Using a dual 5.8 GHz radio solution, could I conceivably give myself some sort of redundancy by doing the following: --two 23 dBi panels, one on each radio --on panel for horizontal orientation; the other, for vertical --put a switch on both sides that supports spanning tree I have LOS between these radios, and I'm assuming that it would be rare to have both polarizations go out at the same time. Does this sound conceivable? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] STP for redundancy on two panels horiz/vert oriented?
I would suggest OSPF bridging so you can use both of them as long as they're working, if not then it just uses one. On 4/12/09, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: Using a dual 5.8 GHz radio solution, could I conceivably give myself some sort of redundancy by doing the following: --two 23 dBi panels, one on each radio --on panel for horizontal orientation; the other, for vertical --put a switch on both sides that supports spanning tree I have LOS between these radios, and I'm assuming that it would be rare to have both polarizations go out at the same time. Does this sound conceivable? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] STP for redundancy on two panels horiz/vert oriented?
I would concur with Josh. I would use OSPF and run the links unidirectionally that way in essence you get a full duplex link, but still have redundancy should a link go down. Also, why use two antennas? MTI makes a nice dual polarized 23 dbi antenna. Andrew MacLeod Network Operations Manager Etheric Networks 877.541.3905 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2009, at 16:33, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I would suggest OSPF bridging so you can use both of them as long as they're working, if not then it just uses one. On 4/12/09, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: Using a dual 5.8 GHz radio solution, could I conceivably give myself some sort of redundancy by doing the following: --two 23 dBi panels, one on each radio --on panel for horizontal orientation; the other, for vertical --put a switch on both sides that supports spanning tree I have LOS between these radios, and I'm assuming that it would be rare to have both polarizations go out at the same time. Does this sound conceivable? --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] STP for redundancy on two panels horiz/vert oriented?
That really only makes sense if the links will have asymetrical bandwidth shaping otherwise you are just wasting capacity. Run them in parallel and load balance them or use the second as a backup. And DP antennas would be a cost effective way to go and would guarantee polarity isolation. Balance the RSL levels on both links and you should be able to operate on the same channel depending on the radio's C/I ratio Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Andrew MacLeod amacl...@ethericnetworks.com Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:45:08 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] STP for redundancy on two panels horiz/vert oriented? I would concur with Josh. I would use OSPF and run the links unidirectionally that way in essence you get a full duplex link, but still have redundancy should a link go down. Also, why use two antennas? MTI makes a nice dual polarized 23 dbi antenna. Andrew MacLeod Network Operations Manager Etheric Networks 877.541.3905 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2009, at 16:33, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I would suggest OSPF bridging so you can use both of them as long as they're working, if not then it just uses one. On 4/12/09, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: Using a dual 5.8 GHz radio solution, could I conceivably give myself some sort of redundancy by doing the following: --two 23 dBi panels, one on each radio --on panel for horizontal orientation; the other, for vertical --put a switch on both sides that supports spanning tree I have LOS between these radios, and I'm assuming that it would be rare to have both polarizations go out at the same time. Does this sound conceivable? --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Tower climbers in north Louisiana
Does anybody know of a good tower climber willing to do some work in northeast Louisiana. I have three new tower locations that I am ready to deploy and no reliable tower climber. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower climbers in north Louisiana
Call Johnny O. He should be able to steer you towards someone. 3373687188 Tell that looser I sent you. :-) Bob moldashel Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:27:38 To: wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Tower climbers in north Louisiana Does anybody know of a good tower climber willing to do some work in northeast Louisiana. I have three new tower locations that I am ready to deploy and no reliable tower climber. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP
No its not an unrealistic goal, if the business model is low margin high volume type subs. There can be much less maintenance with building a business model on a smaller number of business subs, making it not necessary to get that much per sub. For example, We'll sell 10Mhz of spectrum for $1000/month, to a single customer. Where that will only yield us $2000 per sectors, its also only 2 customer and locations to support. I will also say that in competitive served markets, its getting harder and harder to get 100 users on a AP, if in a market thats asking for 5mbps speeds, or 1mbps uploads. Sure, I've gotten 75 users on a 3mb 900 sectors, in an unserved market, but that is different that a market competing with Cable and Fios, for example, where users actually expect to be able to upload with bit torrent, and watch their NetFlix movies. In my earlier years, I was sold on the fact that low ARPU subs was the better market, because if selling 1mbps services, the oversubscription ratios on 10mb sectors could be much much higher. However, I am learning that the High ARPU higher capacity business, with little over subscriptions, is proving more profitable. Its also changes a bit, if wholesale markets are required. Sure if you are the only one in town, onme can stand firm on maximizing the return per sector, at $5K per sector. But a reseller won't pay you $5k per sector, they'll building over you instead. Sometimes its worth getting much less per sector, using the reseller, instead of competiing with their interference otherwise. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP Travis It has been great to see how you have turned into seasoned Canopy provider SO i must assume your opinion of the product has changed recently... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP Hi, I think that's maybe a little high... we have a Canopy AP right now with 100 users on it... about 10% business and 90% residential and it's probably bringing in about $3,500 / month. We will probably load it up to about 120 users total, at which point it will be around $4,000 / month. Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: Which begs an interesting point -- how much revenue / AP? I would think $5k / month for a 20 MHz chunk of 5.8 spectrum, while a bit on the higher side, isn't an unreasonable goal Using Canopy...you have 14 Mb aggregate Selling for $50 / month residential -- that's 100 customers sharing 14 Mb Splitting between $100 / month business and $50 / month residential (for better traffic shaping) -- that's now 20 business customers during the day time (8-5) 60 residential customers in the afternoon / evening (4-12) Now obviously, there will always be places where you're shooting into a hole, or there aren't that many homes / business being covered, blah blah blah blah -- but I don't think $5k / month / AP is an unreasonable goal Thoughts? Comments? -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed This has been an outstanding thread I have enjoyed reading - and learned a bit in the process... thanks. I'll just add that while we are trying to keep the numbers trained to a common wisp - either you guys have a lucky horse shoe or achieving a $5000/mo revenue on one ap is a bit outside the avg... At least for discussion sake. But - even at 1/5th of that your argument still holds true for the most part. Its just that you add in 900mhz (not as common) and all the lower power 5Ghz spectrum available now, 2.4Ghz etc and also mention you can run MT stuff on 10Mhz channels and you just effectively doubled your options based on what type of clients you are servicing etc... Then theres radios that have GPS sync for spectrum reuse etc and the conversation starts to get a lot more complex :) But, in any case this has been an eye-opening discussion... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Charles Wu IMCEAEX-_O=CTI_OU=EXCHANGE+20ADMINISTRATIVE+20GROUP+20+28FYDIBOHF23SPDL T+29 _cn=recipients_cn=char...@converge-tech.com Sent: Friday, April
Re: [WISPA] Lightning protection used on installs
The newest version of Citel's outdoor protector is pretty awesome also. Its a pretty close competition on whether the Canopy or Citel is better. The Citel can be had at about the same cost, depedning on how buying. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 8:17 PM Subject: [WISPA] Lightning protection used on installs Its about that time :) What have you guys found most cost effective (and it needs to work) for lightning protection where the cable enters an exterior wall? How much and where do you get them? So far the motorola units seem to be the best I've seen for what you get and how they work... Also, if you don't mind describing the rest of the pieces you like to use I'm all ears... (which type of ground wire / guage / how to attach to wall / color etc) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Off Topic // Looking for Vehicle Advertising Ideas
If they start to tear they can easilly blow off. But our lasted quite a long time. Be prepaired for slight change to car's paint color behind the magnet sign. But it was by far the best source of advertizing we ever did, and it was cheap. We tried large trailer signs parked in key areas, but that did not do nearly as well, as signs actually on the work vehichles themselves, even though the work vehichle sign was 1/10th the size. Primarilly bcaue there is no cost to the vehichle signs, and they never stop working for you 24x7. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband RickG wrote: I put them on my installers vehicles but usually they get lost or stolen. -RickG On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote: We have magnet signs on our car. We get calls from these. I got them from VistaPrint.com. You upload your logo and design them yourself. They are about $15 a piece. At least you can try them out and see if it works before spending anything larger. Martha Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Just take your company logo down to your local sign shop and tell them you want to put vinyl lettering on your vehicles. They can take digital pictures of the vehicle, then place the logo and whatever writing (website, phone, etc) on the vehicle and you can look at it, make changes, and then they just print them out and stick them on. We have all of our company vehicles marked... and we actually generate sales from it. We pay about $300 per vehicle (including installation). I know the complete vehicle wraps are about $3,000 installed... that seems like a waste of money to me... Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Looking at some sort of vehicle advertising or maybe a complete vehicle wrap. Was wondering if anyone could share pics of what they might have or what you have seen that you like... Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Off Topic // Looking for Vehicle Advertising Ideas
The Competition ? :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off Topic // Looking for Vehicle Advertising Ideas They stole your magnetic signs? Why? Giant frig magnets? or are they putting new writing on them? Scott -- Original Message -- From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:04:39 -0400 We've only had one stolen so far. Which I am surprised about since we are in the city. Never lost any. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* RickG wrote: I put them on my installers vehicles but usually they get lost or stolen. -RickG On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote: We have magnet signs on our car. We get calls from these. I got them from VistaPrint.com. You upload your logo and design them yourself. They are about $15 a piece. At least you can try them out and see if it works before spending anything larger. Martha Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Just take your company logo down to your local sign shop and tell them you want to put vinyl lettering on your vehicles. They can take digital pictures of the vehicle, then place the logo and whatever writing (website, phone, etc) on the vehicle and you can look at it, make changes, and then they just print them out and stick them on. We have all of our company vehicles marked... and we actually generate sales from it. We pay about $300 per vehicle (including installation). I know the complete vehicle wraps are about $3,000 installed... that seems like a waste of money to me... Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Looking at some sort of vehicle advertising or maybe a complete vehicle wrap. Was wondering if anyone could share pics of what they might have or what you have seen that you like... Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power reset
Digitallogger now also has a DC volts reboot device, for about $200 Tom DeReggi. RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: [WISPA] DC power reset Looking for a device to power cycle multiple 48 vDC devices, preferably Ethernet based. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP
Tom, I think you are missing a BIG key that many ISP's (starting clear back in the dial-up days) have missed. The best mix, use of resources, and profitability comes from having high ARPU business customers AND residential users. Why? Because the business customers use the bandwidth from 8:00AM to 5:00PM M-F... while the residential users are 5:00PM to 8:00AM M-F and weekends. As far as user counts go, we are about 90% residential and 10% business... but as far as revenue it's probably closer to 80%/20% or even 70%/30%. We sell a lot of residential wireless and yet our peak bandwdith usage is at 10:00AM M-F... so I am able to sell that same bandwidth again at night to the residential users. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: No its not an unrealistic goal, if the business model is low margin high volume type subs. There can be much less maintenance with building a business model on a smaller number of business subs, making it not necessary to get that much per sub. For example, We'll sell 10Mhz of spectrum for $1000/month, to a single customer. Where that will only yield us $2000 per sectors, its also only 2 customer and locations to support. I will also say that in competitive served markets, its getting harder and harder to get 100 users on a AP, if in a market thats asking for 5mbps speeds, or 1mbps uploads. Sure, I've gotten 75 users on a 3mb 900 sectors, in an unserved market, but that is different that a market competing with Cable and Fios, for example, where users actually expect to be able to upload with bit torrent, and watch their NetFlix movies. In my earlier years, I was sold on the fact that low ARPU subs was the better market, because if selling 1mbps services, the oversubscription ratios on 10mb sectors could be much much higher. However, I am learning that the High ARPU higher capacity business, with little over subscriptions, is proving more profitable. Its also changes a bit, if wholesale markets are required. Sure if you are the only one in town, onme can stand firm on maximizing the return per sector, at $5K per sector. But a reseller won't pay you $5k per sector, they'll building over you instead. Sometimes its worth getting much less per sector, using the reseller, instead of competiing with their interference otherwise. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" g...@aeronetpr.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP Travis It has been great to see how you have turned into seasoned Canopy provider SO i must assume your opinion of the product has changed recently... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP Hi, I think that's maybe a little high... we have a Canopy AP right now with 100 users on it... about 10% business and 90% residential and it's probably bringing in about $3,500 / month. We will probably load it up to about 120 users total, at which point it will be around $4,000 / month. Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: Which begs an interesting point -- how much revenue / AP? I would think $5k / month for a 20 MHz chunk of 5.8 spectrum, while a bit on the higher side, isn't an unreasonable goal Using Canopy...you have 14 Mb aggregate Selling for $50 / month residential -- that's 100 customers sharing 14 Mb Splitting between $100 / month business and $50 / month residential (for better traffic shaping) -- that's now 20 business customers during the day time (8-5) 60 residential customers in the afternoon / evening (4-12) Now obviously, there will always be places where you're shooting into a hole, or there aren't that many homes / business being covered, blah blah blah blah -- but I don't think $5k / month / AP is an unreasonable goal Thoughts? Comments? -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed This has been an outstanding thread I have enjoyed reading - and learned a bit in the process... thanks. I'll just add that while we are trying to keep the numbers trained to a common wisp - either you guys have a lucky horse shoe or achieving a $5000/mo revenue on one ap is a bit outside the avg... At least for discussion sake. But - even at 1/5th of that your argument still holds true for the most part. Its just that
[WISPA] Towers....
Just wanted to post a quick plug here for Nello Towers. If any of you guys or gals is considering buying a tower or towers you should consider these guys. We have been installing tower stuff for years and and I can't remember the last time I didn't have to pull out a mag drill, torch, come-a-long, sledgehammer or some other tool or device to make a tower go together. we just installed a 100' freestanding Nello NSX tower for a customer and every single hole lined up perfectly, the instructions were straight forward, everything was labeled and color coded, and there was even a box that said SPARE HARDWARE Holy Crap! Imagine that!!! A freakin' tower dog's miracle moment. we put the tower together and hung it in one day without issue. And we were not short ANYTHING. We have a second one to do and I can honestly say I am looking forward to it. Now I have no relationship with this company and I don't make anything from them. But I know what a nightmare putting some of these together can be like for someone with experience. Can't imagine a novice trying it. Anyone looking for some fun should buy five 100' Super Trylon towers from Tessco and try putting them together with the instructions off the web site. Took us 4 weeks especially when we realized we had all kinds of parts missing. And the shipping was a killer because Tessco makes its own kits and crates each individual section in nice heavy wood crates. 10 sections, 10 crates. We had enough wood left over to build a 4 bedroom house! :-) Just an FYI. Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power reset
Mike, We use both the small and large AC units. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but we buy a short extension cord, spread the male contacts with a pocket knife and plug in two wall warts on each extension, label and lay them neatly in the bottom of the cabinet with the power injector in front. That way you can switch 4 devices on each cycling switch. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access. com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power reset http://digital-loggers.com/48.html Indeed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power reset http://digital-loggers.com/EPC.pdf This is the AC one, we heard that they are now making a DC unit. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DC power reset Looking for a device to power cycle multiple 48 vDC devices, preferably Ethernet based. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Towers....
I have never bought a Nello Tower, simply because we don't buy much new steel, we buy existing sites for the most part. I have however dealt a number of times with Dan Ianello. Dan is very available, very customer service oriented, and has been always nothing but helpful to me. I have NEVER heard anyone with a negative account of dealing with Nello. Just to echo what Bob sez (from down here where we have fire now!) Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: [WISPA] Towers Just wanted to post a quick plug here for Nello Towers. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower climbers in north Louisiana
To: Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tower climbers in north Louisiana Call Mac He's In Rayville, kinda north -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:28 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Tower climbers in north Louisiana Does anybody know of a good tower climber willing to do some work in northeast Louisiana. I have three new tower locations that I am ready to deploy and no reliable tower climber. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Off Topic // Looking for Vehicle Advertising Ideas
I was thinking high school students with nothing better to do : ) Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Tom DeReggi wrote: The Competition ? :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off Topic // Looking for Vehicle Advertising Ideas They stole your magnetic signs? Why? Giant frig magnets? or are they putting new writing on them? Scott -- Original Message -- From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:04:39 -0400 We've only had one stolen so far. Which I am surprised about since we are in the city. Never lost any. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* RickG wrote: I put them on my installers vehicles but usually they get lost or stolen. -RickG On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote: We have magnet signs on our car. We get calls from these. I got them from VistaPrint.com. You upload your logo and design them yourself. They are about $15 a piece. At least you can try them out and see if it works before spending anything larger. Martha Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Just take your company logo down to your local sign shop and tell them you want to put vinyl lettering on your vehicles. They can take digital pictures of the vehicle, then place the logo and whatever writing (website, phone, etc) on the vehicle and you can look at it, make changes, and then they just print them out and stick them on. We have all of our company vehicles marked... and we actually generate sales from it. We pay about $300 per vehicle (including installation). I know the complete vehicle wraps are about $3,000 installed... that seems like a waste of money to me... Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Looking at some sort of vehicle advertising or maybe a complete vehicle wrap. Was wondering if anyone could share pics of what they might have or what you have seen that you like... Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Towers....
Blake Bowers wrote: I have never bought a Nello Tower, simply because we don't buy much new steel, we buy existing sites for the most part. I have however dealt a number of times with Dan Ianello. Dan is very available, very customer service oriented, and has been always nothing but helpful to me. I have NEVER heard anyone with a negative account of dealing with Nello. Just to echo what Bob sez (from down here where we have fire now!) Oh VERY FUNNY I get that we have fire now comment... You obviously read other lists :-) -B- Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: [WISPA] Towers Just wanted to post a quick plug here for Nello Towers. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner Tests $150-Per-Month Unlimited Internet
Are you using the optional QoS module that does layer 7 traffic shaping? I was using that at home but found the QoS in the Tomato firmware for Broadcom based APs to be more accurate. I haven't found any of the free open source Linux based firewalls to be very good at traffic shaping. I wish Packeteer had a software based solution (preferrably free). On Apr 12, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Rogelio wrote: On a somewhat related note, does anyone here use open source packet shaping solutions? I've only used Packeteer in production (enterprise environment), but I'm always on the lookout for good other solutions. Right now, I'm using BSD-based pfSense at home, and that seems to be working great. Others I know are just using OpenBSD proper and just putting it in transparent mode. I'd love to know what others find most appropriate for their environments, particularly in WISP sort of environments. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner Tests $150-Per-Month Unlimited Internet
Are you running the 2.0 beta of pfSense? On Apr 12, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Rogelio wrote: On a somewhat related note, does anyone here use open source packet shaping solutions? I've only used Packeteer in production (enterprise environment), but I'm always on the lookout for good other solutions. Right now, I'm using BSD-based pfSense at home, and that seems to be working great. Others I know are just using OpenBSD proper and just putting it in transparent mode. I'd love to know what others find most appropriate for their environments, particularly in WISP sort of environments. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - changeoftopic -- customers / AP
Doesn't all the residential associations still affect your business latency etc? Or is it small enough not to be noticed? You also don't do voip that changes the game. You can get away with a lot with just data... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Apr 12, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Tom, I think you are missing a BIG key that many ISP's (starting clear back in the dial-up days) have missed. The best mix, use of resources, and profitability comes from having high ARPU business customers AND residential users. Why? Because the business customers use the bandwidth from 8:00AM to 5:00PM M-F... while the residential users are 5:00PM to 8:00AM M-F and weekends. As far as user counts go, we are about 90% residential and 10% business... but as far as revenue it's probably closer to 80%/20% or even 70%/30%. We sell a lot of residential wireless and yet our peak bandwdith usage is at 10:00AM M-F... so I am able to sell that same bandwidth again at night to the residential users. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: No its not an unrealistic goal, if the business model is low margin high volume type subs. There can be much less maintenance with building a business model on a smaller number of business subs, making it not necessary to get that much per sub. For example, We'll sell 10Mhz of spectrum for $1000/month, to a single customer. Where that will only yield us $2000 per sectors, its also only 2 customer and locations to support. I will also say that in competitive served markets, its getting harder and harder to get 100 users on a AP, if in a market thats asking for 5mbps speeds, or 1mbps uploads. Sure, I've gotten 75 users on a 3mb 900 sectors, in an unserved market, but that is different that a market competing with Cable and Fios, for example, where users actually expect to be able to upload with bit torrent, and watch their NetFlix movies. In my earlier years, I was sold on the fact that low ARPU subs was the better market, because if selling 1mbps services, the oversubscription ratios on 10mb sectors could be much much higher. However, I am learning that the High ARPU higher capacity business, with little over subscriptions, is proving more profitable. Its also changes a bit, if wholesale markets are required. Sure if you are the only one in town, onme can stand firm on maximizing the return per sector, at $5K per sector. But a reseller won't pay you $5k per sector, they'll building over you instead. Sometimes its worth getting much less per sector, using the reseller, instead of competiing with their interference otherwise. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP Travis It has been great to see how you have turned into seasoned Canopy provider SO i must assume your opinion of the product has changed recently... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP Hi, I think that's maybe a little high... we have a Canopy AP right now with 100 users on it... about 10% business and 90% residential and it's probably bringing in about $3,500 / month. We will probably load it up to about 120 users total, at which point it will be around $4,000 / month. Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: Which begs an interesting point -- how much revenue / AP? I would think $5k / month for a 20 MHz chunk of 5.8 spectrum, while a bit on the higher side, isn't an unreasonable goal Using Canopy...you have 14 Mb aggregate Selling for $50 / month residential -- that's 100 customers sharing 14 Mb Splitting between $100 / month business and $50 / month residential (for better traffic shaping) -- that's now 20 business customers during the day time (8-5) 60 residential customers in the afternoon / evening (4-12) Now obviously, there will always be places where you're shooting into a hole, or there aren't that many homes / business being covered, blah blah blah blah -- but I don't think $5k / month / AP is an unreasonable goal Thoughts? Comments? -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:
Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - changeoftopic -- customers / AP
That brings up a whole new point that I had never considered How many more users can you put on an AP if you are NOT providing VoIP services that you have to support? It would seem you could make up any profit on VoIP by being able to add a few additional users to an AP that you couldn't before... :) Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Doesn't all the residential associations still affect your business latency etc? Or is it small enough not to be noticed? You also don't do voip that changes the game. You can get away with a lot with just data... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Apr 12, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Tom, I think you are missing a BIG key that many ISP's (starting clear back in the dial-up days) have missed. The best mix, use of resources, and profitability comes from having high ARPU business customers AND residential users. Why? Because the business customers use the bandwidth from 8:00AM to 5:00PM M-F... while the residential users are 5:00PM to 8:00AM M-F and weekends. As far as user counts go, we are about 90% residential and 10% business... but as far as revenue it's probably closer to 80%/20% or even 70%/30%. We sell a lot of residential wireless and yet our peak bandwdith usage is at 10:00AM M-F... so I am able to sell that same bandwidth again at night to the residential users. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: No its not an unrealistic goal, if the business model is low margin high volume type subs. There can be much less maintenance with building a business model on a smaller number of business subs, making it not necessary to get that much per sub. For example, We'll sell 10Mhz of spectrum for $1000/month, to a single customer. Where that will only yield us $2000 per sectors, its also only 2 customer and locations to support. I will also say that in competitive served markets, its getting harder and harder to get 100 users on a AP, if in a market thats asking for 5mbps speeds, or 1mbps uploads. Sure, I've gotten 75 users on a 3mb 900 sectors, in an unserved market, but that is different that a market competing with Cable and Fios, for example, where users actually expect to be able to upload with bit torrent, and watch their NetFlix movies. In my earlier years, I was sold on the fact that low ARPU subs was the better market, because if selling 1mbps services, the oversubscription ratios on 10mb sectors could be much much higher. However, I am learning that the High ARPU higher capacity business, with little over subscriptions, is proving more profitable. Its also changes a bit, if wholesale markets are required. Sure if you are the only one in town, onme can stand firm on maximizing the return per sector, at $5K per sector. But a reseller won't pay you $5k per sector, they'll building over you instead. Sometimes its worth getting much less per sector, using the reseller, instead of competiing with their interference otherwise. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" g...@aeronetpr.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP Travis It has been great to see how you have turned into seasoned Canopy provider SO i must assume your opinion of the product has changed recently... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP Hi, I think that's maybe a little high... we have a Canopy AP right now with 100 users on it... about 10% business and 90% residential and it's probably bringing in about $3,500 / month. We will probably load it up to about 120 users total, at which point it will be around $4,000 / month. Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: Which begs an interesting point -- how much revenue / AP? I would think $5k / month for a 20 MHz chunk of 5.8 spectrum, while a bit on the higher side, isn't an unreasonable goal Using Canopy...you have 14 Mb aggregate Selling for $50 / month residential -- that's 100 customers sharing 14 Mb Splitting between $100 / month business and $50 / month residential (for better traffic shaping) -- that's now 20 business customers during the day time (8-5) 60 residential customers in the afternoon / evening (4-12) Now obviously, there will always be places where you're shooting into a hole, or there aren't that many homes / business being covered, blah blah blah blah --
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Fiber cut in SF area
www.covadwireless.com They service a large chunk of the SF Bay Area and some of the Los Angeles area. John -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson [mailto:t...@ida.net] Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 05:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Fiber cut in SF area WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Content Filtering
Recommendations for home user grade content filtering (either software or hardware) - thanks. `S WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
No sub for daddy and mommy... Cheep i.e. FREE,opendns -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Content Filtering Recommendations for home user grade content filtering (either software or hardware) - thanks. `S WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Fiber cut in SF area
Etheric also provides service to most of the Bay Area as well as Santa Cruz and parts of Monteray county as well. We were not impacted at all during this event. On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 8:56 PM, John J. Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: www.covadwireless.com They service a large chunk of the SF Bay Area and some of the Los Angeles area. John -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson [mailto:t...@ida.net] Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 05:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Fiber cut in SF area WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Andrew MacLeod Network Operations Manager Etheric Networks 877-541-3905 amacl...@ethericnetworks.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
