Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors

[RickG]

Jason, I truly appreciate your checking. I have a few contacts at
Andrew. I'll try to contact them as get the low down. Thanks again!

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jason Bailey  wrote:
> Rick,I have done alot of digging and cannot find anything either on the -x.  
> You may have lucked out and got some usable andrew sectors.I wish I could run 
> into a deal like that!I was referring to my experience with most sectors in 
> that range being x-pol for cell use,but before those days we did deploy those 
> on some beach-side towers for moto privacy plus in 900.
>
> --- On Mon, 3/8/10, RickG  wrote:
>
>
> From: RickG 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 11:59 AM
>
>
> Even though the datasheet says v-pol?
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Jason Bailey  wrote:
>> from my experience the x means x-pol or 45 degree pol ,likely designed 
>> for iden 900?
>>
>> --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Jeremie Chism  wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Jeremie Chism 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:57 PM
>>
>>
>> Only thing I would be worried about is picking up interference in the
>> 800 MHz range.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:43 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>
>>> Label says 870MHz - 960 MHz, 90 degree, V-Pol. Part#DB844H90E-X. Cant
>>> find documents for the -X but -XY is attached. So, will they work with
>>> XR-9's?
>>> -RickG
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, RickG  wrote:
 I'll check those model numbers. If they are 45 degree units, can
 they still
 be used? -RickG

 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:05 AM,  wrote:
>
> Rick
>
> You need to search the model numvers on line and verify polarity.
> A lot
> of cell antennas are 45 degree cross pol. So they are not vert or
> horiz but
> stock in between.
>
> Jumpers for these are easy to find on Ebay. You need DIN male to N
> male.
>  If 3' jumpers work for you hit me off list.  I have those comming
> out of
> my.
>
> But check the polarity
>
> Bob
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RickG 
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:29:57
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors
>
> A Cell company gave me some old 900Mhz sector antennas. They said
> nothing
> wrong with them, they're just not using those frequencies any
> more. The
> label is marked for 890-940Mhz. Any issues with using them?
> Also, they have Heliax (female) connectors. Where can I get
> pigtails that
> convert them to N-Female?
> -RickG
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers

[Josh Luthman]

Almost all HTTP content is gzip'ed already.  I doubt any compression
above that is going to be worth the CPU time cost.

Even if the software was free, who would support the people who are
terrified to install anything at all?

On 3/9/10, Scottie Arnett  wrote:
> If you really check into it, it is a data compression deal. Much like
> zipping up the data with winzip before it crosses the data layer. I really
> do not see how it can help with broadband in any sense. I used to use the
> same type deals on dial-up.
>
> Scottie
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "David E. Smith" 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:56:22 -0600
>
>>On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, this looks interesting.  It would be nice to drop the amount of data
>>> across especially busy parts of the network!
>>>
>>> Anyone else used this or something similar?
>>>
>>
>>This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were
>> all
>>the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires
>>software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case,
>> you
>>won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything
>>that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer
>>base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction.
>>
>>We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough,
>> though
>>we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several
>>years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably
>>has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to
>> sell
>>us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't
>>really tested it in quite a while.
>>
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>>MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from PropelSoftware for WISPAmembers

[Scottie Arnett]

If you really check into it, it is a data compression deal. Much like zipping 
up the data with winzip before it crosses the data layer. I really do not see 
how it can help with broadband in any sense. I used to use the same type deals 
on dial-up.

Scottie


-- Original Message --
From: "David E. Smith" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:56:22 -0600

>On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>
>> OK, this looks interesting.  It would be nice to drop the amount of data
>> across especially busy parts of the network!
>>
>> Anyone else used this or something similar?
>>
>
>This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all
>the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires
>software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you
>won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything
>that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer
>base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction.
>
>We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though
>we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several
>years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably
>has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell
>us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't
>really tested it in quite a while.
>
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>MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers

[Robert West]

With weather like this today, the hills might be a nice change.



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Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel
Software for WISPAmembers

Sounds like an HTTP proxy doesn't it?

I'm running for the hills!!!

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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:

>  I'd love to know how it works
>
> Without knowing that, I can't even guess if it would be useful to me.
>
> Blair
>
>
> Glenn Kelley wrote:
>
> The biggest issue I found w/ zipproxy (and I like it) is that it does not
have an internal dns caching system -
> so each time a hostname is hit - it tries to resolve it
>
> So - if you use it - make sure to install a dns caching system along w/ it
>
> Also - make sure to run as a daemon as well.
>
>

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> On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:57 PM, jp wrote:
>
>
>
>  You mean like Proxyconn? We used to use that, but stopped because they
> haven't made any new software for a long time as well.
> http://ziproxy.sourceforge.net/ is what we replaced it with. Basically
> ziproxy being the customer facing side of a squid server. Even speeds up
> 1mbps sort of connections, though not as dramatically as dialup. And of
> course since it's just a proxy setting, it works with all operating
> systems and browsers.
>
> I have no idea how it compares with propel.
>
> On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:56:22PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote:
>
>
>  On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer 
wrote:
>
>
>
>  OK, this looks interesting.  It would be nice to drop the amount of data
> across especially busy parts of the network!
>
> Anyone else used this or something similar?
>
>
>
>  This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were
all
> the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires
> software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case,
you
> won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically
anything
> that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer
> base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction.
>
> We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough,
though
> we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several
> years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This
probably
> has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to
sell
> us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't
> really tested it in quite a while.
>
> David Smith
> MVN.net
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels

[Rick Harnish]

Mike,

John at Superpass has some 120 DualBand Sectors.
http://superpass.com/SPD-GSH2T-J12T.html, $299
http://superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html. $359.

Respectfully,
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:21 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels
> 
> Wasn't the thought the 90s really covered more than 90?  120 degree
> dual
> banders seem to be rare?  I want to replace a 3 2.4 degree sector tower
> with
> dual band panels with the same coverage.
> 
> Mike
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:12 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels
> 
> Plural.   www.radiowavesinc.com
> 
> SEC-2V-5H-90*  is 90 degrees  2.4 GHz Vertical  5 GHz. Horizontal.
> 
> SEC-2H-5V-90* is 90 degrees 2.4 GHz horizontal  5 GHz Vertical
> 
> They also make a 60 degree.  Just change the 90 to a 60 in the number
> above.
> 
> Used them once.   No problems to report.  They are a very responsive
> company.  Call their engineering staff if you have any questions.
> 
> -B-
> 
> 
> 
> Mike wrote:
> > Bob,
> >
> > Looking on radiowaveinc.com I don't see one listed.  Do you have a
> link?
> Do
> > you use a dual freq radiowave?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> On
> > Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
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> > Radiowaves
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers

[Josh Luthman]

Sounds like an HTTP proxy doesn't it?

I'm running for the hills!!!

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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:

>  I'd love to know how it works
>
> Without knowing that, I can't even guess if it would be useful to me.
>
> Blair
>
>
> Glenn Kelley wrote:
>
> The biggest issue I found w/ zipproxy (and I like it) is that it does not 
> have an internal dns caching system -
> so each time a hostname is hit - it tries to resolve it
>
> So - if you use it - make sure to install a dns caching system along w/ it
>
> Also - make sure to run as a daemon as well.
>
> _
> Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com
>   Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
> Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
>
> On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:57 PM, jp wrote:
>
>
>
>  You mean like Proxyconn? We used to use that, but stopped because they
> haven't made any new software for a long time as well.
> http://ziproxy.sourceforge.net/ is what we replaced it with. Basically
> ziproxy being the customer facing side of a squid server. Even speeds up
> 1mbps sort of connections, though not as dramatically as dialup. And of
> course since it's just a proxy setting, it works with all operating
> systems and browsers.
>
> I have no idea how it compares with propel.
>
> On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:56:22PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote:
>
>
>  On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer  
> wrote:
>
>
>
>  OK, this looks interesting.  It would be nice to drop the amount of data
> across especially busy parts of the network!
>
> Anyone else used this or something similar?
>
>
>
>  This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all
> the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires
> software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you
> won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything
> that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer
> base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction.
>
> We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though
> we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several
> years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably
> has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell
> us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't
> really tested it in quite a while.
>
> David Smith
> MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels

[Mike]

Wasn't the thought the 90s really covered more than 90?  120 degree dual
banders seem to be rare?  I want to replace a 3 2.4 degree sector tower with
dual band panels with the same coverage.

Mike

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels

Plural.   www.radiowavesinc.com

SEC-2V-5H-90*  is 90 degrees  2.4 GHz Vertical  5 GHz. Horizontal.

SEC-2H-5V-90* is 90 degrees 2.4 GHz horizontal  5 GHz Vertical

They also make a 60 degree.  Just change the 90 to a 60 in the number above.

Used them once.   No problems to report.  They are a very responsive 
company.  Call their engineering staff if you have any questions.

-B-



Mike wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Looking on radiowaveinc.com I don't see one listed.  Do you have a link?
Do
> you use a dual freq radiowave?
>
> Mike
>
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Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels

[Bob Moldashel]

Plural.   www.radiowavesinc.com

SEC-2V-5H-90*  is 90 degrees  2.4 GHz Vertical  5 GHz. Horizontal.

SEC-2H-5V-90* is 90 degrees 2.4 GHz horizontal  5 GHz Vertical

They also make a 60 degree.  Just change the 90 to a 60 in the number above.

Used them once.   No problems to report.  They are a very responsive 
company.  Call their engineering staff if you have any questions.

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> Bob,
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> Looking on radiowaveinc.com I don't see one listed.  Do you have a link?  Do
> you use a dual freq radiowave?
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Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels

[Mike]

Bob,

Looking on radiowaveinc.com I don't see one listed.  Do you have a link?  Do
you use a dual freq radiowave?

Mike

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Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels

[Bob Moldashel]

Radiowaves


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> Sheesh . I meant dual frequency, not dual polarity.  Anybody have good
> experiences with 120 degree dual frequency panels?  I want to replace 3 2.4s
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[WISPA] dual frequency panels

[Mike]

Sheesh . I meant dual frequency, not dual polarity.  Anybody have good
experiences with 120 degree dual frequency panels?  I want to replace 3 2.4s
with a 2.4/5.7 setups.

 

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[WISPA] Fwd: Access at sites

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Looking for Wireless Access in Texas & Minnesota.

Faisal.


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Subject:Access at sites
Date:   Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:10:46 -0500






Hi,

I have some colleagues that are interested in service in the following 
locations, and wondering if anyone can do T1/Wireless, or knows anyone 
that can.

Please contact me off-list..

Thanks,

Carlos.


240 FM 3451

SAN AUGUSTINE, TX 75972

936-275-

201 FM 3451

San Augustine, TX 75972

936-275-

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936-288-

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[WISPA] dual polarity panels

[Mike]

I know the subject has come up recently, but I am interested in hearing if
anybody has had some good experiences with 120 degree dual polarity sectors.
I am looking for 2.4 and 5.7.  Thanks!

 

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Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors

[Jason Bailey]

Rick,I have done alot of digging and cannot find anything either on the -x.  
You may have lucked out and got some usable andrew sectors.I wish I could run 
into a deal like that!I was referring to my experience with most sectors in 
that range being x-pol for cell use,but before those days we did deploy those 
on some beach-side towers for moto privacy plus in 900.

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From: RickG 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 11:59 AM


Even though the datasheet says v-pol?

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Jason Bailey  wrote:
> from my experience the x means x-pol or 45 degree pol ,likely designed 
> for iden 900?
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> --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Jeremie Chism  wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:57 PM
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> Only thing I would be worried about is picking up interference in the
> 800 MHz range.
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> On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:43 PM, RickG  wrote:
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>> Label says 870MHz - 960 MHz, 90 degree, V-Pol. Part#DB844H90E-X. Cant
>> find documents for the -X but -XY is attached. So, will they work with
>> XR-9's?
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>> I'll check those model numbers. If they are 45 degree units, can
>>> they still
>>> be used? -RickG
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:05 AM,  wrote:

 Rick

 You need to search the model numvers on line and verify polarity.
 A lot
 of cell antennas are 45 degree cross pol. So they are not vert or
 horiz but
 stock in between.

 Jumpers for these are easy to find on Ebay. You need DIN male to N
 male.
  If 3' jumpers work for you hit me off list.  I have those comming
 out of
 my.

 But check the polarity

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:29:57
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors

 A Cell company gave me some old 900Mhz sector antennas. They said
 nothing
 wrong with them, they're just not using those frequencies any
 more. The
 label is marked for 890-940Mhz. Any issues with using them?
 Also, they have Heliax (female) connectors. Where can I get
 pigtails that
 convert them to N-Female?
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers

[Blair Davis]

I'd love to know how it works

Without knowing that, I can't even guess if it would be useful to me.

Blair

Glenn Kelley wrote:

  The biggest issue I found w/ zipproxy (and I like it) is that it does not have an internal dns caching system - 
so each time a hostname is hit - it tries to resolve it 

So - if you use it - make sure to install a dns caching system along w/ it 

Also - make sure to run as a daemon as well. 

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On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:57 PM, jp wrote:

  
  
You mean like Proxyconn? We used to use that, but stopped because they 
haven't made any new software for a long time as well.

http://ziproxy.sourceforge.net/ is what we replaced it with. Basically 
ziproxy being the customer facing side of a squid server. Even speeds up 
1mbps sort of connections, though not as dramatically as dialup. And of 
course since it's just a proxy setting, it works with all operating 
systems and browsers.

I have no idea how it compares with propel.

On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:56:22PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote:


  On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

  
  
OK, this looks interesting.  It would be nice to drop the amount of data
across especially busy parts of the network!

Anyone else used this or something similar?


  
  This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all
the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires
software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you
won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything
that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer
base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction.

We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though
we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several
years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably
has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell
us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't
really tested it in quite a while.

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers

[Glenn Kelley]

The biggest issue I found w/ zipproxy (and I like it) is that it does not have 
an internal dns caching system - 
so each time a hostname is hit - it tries to resolve it 

So - if you use it - make sure to install a dns caching system along w/ it 

Also - make sure to run as a daemon as well. 

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On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:57 PM, jp wrote:

> You mean like Proxyconn? We used to use that, but stopped because they 
> haven't made any new software for a long time as well.
> 
> http://ziproxy.sourceforge.net/ is what we replaced it with. Basically 
> ziproxy being the customer facing side of a squid server. Even speeds up 
> 1mbps sort of connections, though not as dramatically as dialup. And of 
> course since it's just a proxy setting, it works with all operating 
> systems and browsers.
> 
> I have no idea how it compares with propel.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:56:22PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, this looks interesting.  It would be nice to drop the amount of data
>>> across especially busy parts of the network!
>>> 
>>> Anyone else used this or something similar?
>>> 
>> 
>> This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all
>> the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires
>> software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you
>> won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything
>> that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer
>> base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction.
>> 
>> We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though
>> we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several
>> years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably
>> has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell
>> us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't
>> really tested it in quite a while.
>> 
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>> MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers

[jp]

You mean like Proxyconn? We used to use that, but stopped because they 
haven't made any new software for a long time as well.

http://ziproxy.sourceforge.net/ is what we replaced it with. Basically 
ziproxy being the customer facing side of a squid server. Even speeds up 
1mbps sort of connections, though not as dramatically as dialup. And of 
course since it's just a proxy setting, it works with all operating 
systems and browsers.

I have no idea how it compares with propel.

On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:56:22PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> 
> > OK, this looks interesting.  It would be nice to drop the amount of data
> > across especially busy parts of the network!
> >
> > Anyone else used this or something similar?
> >
> 
> This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all
> the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires
> software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you
> won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything
> that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer
> base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction.
> 
> We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though
> we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several
> years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably
> has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell
> us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't
> really tested it in quite a while.
> 
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> MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers

[David E. Smith]

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

> OK, this looks interesting.  It would be nice to drop the amount of data
> across especially busy parts of the network!
>
> Anyone else used this or something similar?
>

This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all
the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires
software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you
won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything
that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer
base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction.

We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though
we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several
years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably
has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell
us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't
really tested it in quite a while.

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[WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers

[Marlon K. Schafer]

OK, this looks interesting.  It would be nice to drop the amount of data across 
especially busy parts of the network!

Anyone else used this or something similar?

Anyone have any thoughts on it?
thanks,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Samboy 
To: advertiseme...@wispa.org 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:06 PM
Subject: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers




 

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Re: [WISPA] USF Changes

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Yep, they are now going to actively work to put us out of business.

Gotta love it.
marlon

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Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 7:25 AM
Subject: [WISPA] USF Changes


FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund
AP


By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology
Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET

WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet
connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government
program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas.

The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to
revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan
due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been
expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid
details.

The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program
over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of
the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The
proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal
Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand
the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks.

"It's time to migrate this 20th-century program," said Blair Levin,
the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by
last year's stimulus bill. "We need to move the current system from
the traditional networks to the new networks."

The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all
Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program
subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in
schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural
health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service
to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is
uneconomical for the private companies to build networks.

Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that
businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That
revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under
mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize
broadband.

The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the
proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no
additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the
construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time
injection of $9 billion.

Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual
size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from
subsidies now used for voice services.

The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one
broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have
complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with
new networks considered duplicative.

Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over
another, be it cable, DSL or wireless.

The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar
"intercarrier compensation" system, the Byzantine menu of charges that
telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect
calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require
changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies
tend to rely heavily on both funding sources.

The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap
for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all
Americans.

Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun
releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum
available for mobile broadband connections by letting television
broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves.

Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while
others might be up to the FCC to implement.

Yahoo article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_universal_service;_ylt=AgSGtpiLKKQbXooR3LKvT.cPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTMzNGcwMmcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDEwMDMwNS9hcF9vbl9oaV90ZS91c190ZWNfZmNjX3VuaXZlcnNhbF9zZXJ2aWNlBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5bl90b21ic3RvbmUEc2xrA2ZjY3RvcHJvcG9zZQ--

-- 
Marco C. Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.
POB 875
Greenville, TX 75403-0875
903-455-5036



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Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

[Dennis Burgess]

Don't think the SSDs make any difference unless for some weird reason
you are running the OS from it!  For web caching it works so much
better.

---
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MTCTCE, MTCUME 
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS"


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:15 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

Just seen a WISP here over the weekend show me his new core router. Core
2
Duo in a rackmount 4U case with 5 PCI network cards and Solid State Hard
Drive. And 2 gigs of RAM. I think the Solid State Hard Drive is whats
gonna
make that thing last forever. As long as he doesn't have a power supply
failure but that can be replaced fairly quickly without needing to
re-install the system.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

Personally, I would be looking at an Intel Core2Duo or higher system. 
There are many for sale on ebay in 1u cases. Something like item 
#170451664096 would be perfect... I'm sure there are many other choices 
on ebay, this was just the first one that came up.

Travis


Jon Auer wrote:
> Just saw Travis's mention of this board on the Mikrotik list.
> Man. lots of action on this general topic all over the place.
>
> What would you recommend for handling say, 200Mbps of VPLS and general
> packet bashing (iBGP+OSPF). Connection tracking turned off and only
> host-protection ACLs?
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jon Auer  wrote:
>   
>> Would that be the SYS-5015A-H 1U?
>>
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101262&cm_re=su
perm
icro_atom-_-16-101-262-_-Product
>>
>> It has Realtek GigE onboard. Anyone have experiences with that brand
>> of ethernet chipset under RouterOS?
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:
>> 
>>> If you are looking for rackmount units, supermicro has a rackmount
atom
>>> dual core bare bones system ... pricing is in the #250 - $300 range
>>>
>>> It has 2 GBE interfaces and PCIE expansion
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> 787.273.4143
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>>> Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:16 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I will stay with
the
>>> PC and try out the Atoms with a DOM. One of my goals was to cut down
on
>>> electric usage also, and it looks like they will do the trick.
>>>
>>> Scottie
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Eric Rogers" 
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>> Date:  Sun, 7 Mar 2010 00:19:47 -0500
>>>
>>>   
 I must eat crow... I am horrible at addition and subtraction... 4
years
 of calculus and you would think I could at least add.  Sorry, I
forgot
 
>>> I
>>>   
 used a USB dongle I already had in my original calculation,
thinking it
 was near $200, but is was $250.  Complete system $286, and with
 quantities, I am sure it will come down.

 $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU and Power Adapter
 $109 - Jetway NC92-N330 1.6 Dual Atom
 $49 - Jetway 3 X Gigabit LAN
 $29 - 1 GB Memory
 $39 - 1 GB SATA DOM
 --
 $286

 I have also built basically the same as above, but an Intel
D945GCLF
 (Single Core Intel chipset) for about the same.

 $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU (unneeded) and Power Adapter
 $69 - Motherboard
 $9 - Riser Card
 $29 - 1 GB Memory
 $10 - USB Flash Drive
 $99 - RB44G (or 4 port Ethernet card)
 -
 $285

 Eric




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 11:51 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

 Care to share your parts list? I can't seem to put everything
together
 for less than $200... and I'd love to test one of these.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Eric Rogers wrote:
 
> We have been testing mini-box.com's little toys.  They are Atom
> processors, but with a SATA DOM, dual core 1.6GHz Atom, 3

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors

[RickG]

Even though the datasheet says v-pol?

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Jason Bailey  wrote:
> from my experience the x means x-pol or 45 degree pol ,likely designed 
> for iden 900?
>
> --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Jeremie Chism  wrote:
>
>
> From: Jeremie Chism 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:57 PM
>
>
> Only thing I would be worried about is picking up interference in the
> 800 MHz range.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:43 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>> Label says 870MHz - 960 MHz, 90 degree, V-Pol. Part#DB844H90E-X. Cant
>> find documents for the -X but -XY is attached. So, will they work with
>> XR-9's?
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>> I'll check those model numbers. If they are 45 degree units, can
>>> they still
>>> be used? -RickG
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:05 AM,  wrote:

 Rick

 You need to search the model numvers on line and verify polarity.
 A lot
 of cell antennas are 45 degree cross pol. So they are not vert or
 horiz but
 stock in between.

 Jumpers for these are easy to find on Ebay. You need DIN male to N
 male.
  If 3' jumpers work for you hit me off list.  I have those comming
 out of
 my.

 But check the polarity

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: RickG 
 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:29:57
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors

 A Cell company gave me some old 900Mhz sector antennas. They said
 nothing
 wrong with them, they're just not using those frequencies any
 more. The
 label is marked for 890-940Mhz. Any issues with using them?
 Also, they have Heliax (female) connectors. Where can I get
 pigtails that
 convert them to N-Female?
 -RickG



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[WISPA] Motorola PTP800

[Bob Moldashel]

Anyone have a street price on this unit?   23 Ghz. 50 Mb  ???

Offlist if you want.

Tnx.

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Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

[Jerry Richardson]

Voice of experience right there.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

Zig zag your ap's back and forth across the valley.  Use customer houses as 
transmit sites to those on the other side of the river.

That'll work much better than a mesh system.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "MDK" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:41 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?


>I just got a call from a remote community, this is in "the mountains" so to
> speak.   It's actually a canyon with a river in the middle and houses on
> both sides.   It's not straight, and there's trees galore.In other
> words, longest distance with 2.4 is going to be "not  very far".
>
> But, there's a lot of people here, equivalent of a small town, and no 
> other
> broadband, and only some of them could even use satellite, which they all
> seem to hate.The populated area that's in this valley/canyon is spread
> over about 6 miles, the first 3 of which is open enough to use more
> conventional wireless setups.   The last 3 miles, the canyon has bends and
> narrow spots, and vastly more trees.
>
> So, I got to thinking that an outdoor mesh might work for part of this, 
> but
> I have yet to read of any truly successful outdoor meshes -especially that
> can deliver a large amount of bandwidth.
>
> Anyone?
>
>
> ++
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Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Zig zag your ap's back and forth across the valley.  Use customer houses as 
transmit sites to those on the other side of the river.

That'll work much better than a mesh system.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "MDK" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:41 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?


>I just got a call from a remote community, this is in "the mountains" so to
> speak.   It's actually a canyon with a river in the middle and houses on
> both sides.   It's not straight, and there's trees galore.In other
> words, longest distance with 2.4 is going to be "not  very far".
>
> But, there's a lot of people here, equivalent of a small town, and no 
> other
> broadband, and only some of them could even use satellite, which they all
> seem to hate.The populated area that's in this valley/canyon is spread
> over about 6 miles, the first 3 of which is open enough to use more
> conventional wireless setups.   The last 3 miles, the canyon has bends and
> narrow spots, and vastly more trees.
>
> So, I got to thinking that an outdoor mesh might work for part of this, 
> but
> I have yet to read of any truly successful outdoor meshes -especially that
> can deliver a large amount of bandwidth.
>
> Anyone?
>
>
> ++
> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
> 541-969-8200  509-386-4589
> ++
>
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Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

[Gino Villarini]

This is a good find too

http://cgi.ebay.com/Network-Engines-NS6400-Firewall-Win-Server-2003-NAR5
060_W0QQitemZ300400695366QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item
45f146d846#ht_3290wt_1165

2 FE 4 GE

The NS6400 is a P4 2.8 ghz based appliance  $199 not bad

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

Personally, I would be looking at an Intel Core2Duo or higher system. 
There are many for sale on ebay in 1u cases. Something like item 
#170451664096 would be perfect... I'm sure there are many other choices 
on ebay, this was just the first one that came up.

Travis


Jon Auer wrote:
> Just saw Travis's mention of this board on the Mikrotik list.
> Man. lots of action on this general topic all over the place.
>
> What would you recommend for handling say, 200Mbps of VPLS and general
> packet bashing (iBGP+OSPF). Connection tracking turned off and only
> host-protection ACLs?
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jon Auer  wrote:
>   
>> Would that be the SYS-5015A-H 1U?
>>
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101262&cm_re=su
permicro_atom-_-16-101-262-_-Product
>>
>> It has Realtek GigE onboard. Anyone have experiences with that brand
>> of ethernet chipset under RouterOS?
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:
>> 
>>> If you are looking for rackmount units, supermicro has a rackmount
atom
>>> dual core bare bones system ... pricing is in the #250 - $300 range
>>>
>>> It has 2 GBE interfaces and PCIE expansion
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> 787.273.4143
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>>> Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:16 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I will stay with
the
>>> PC and try out the Atoms with a DOM. One of my goals was to cut down
on
>>> electric usage also, and it looks like they will do the trick.
>>>
>>> Scottie
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Eric Rogers" 
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>> Date:  Sun, 7 Mar 2010 00:19:47 -0500
>>>
>>>   
 I must eat crow... I am horrible at addition and subtraction... 4
years
 of calculus and you would think I could at least add.  Sorry, I
forgot
 
>>> I
>>>   
 used a USB dongle I already had in my original calculation,
thinking it
 was near $200, but is was $250.  Complete system $286, and with
 quantities, I am sure it will come down.

 $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU and Power Adapter
 $109 - Jetway NC92-N330 1.6 Dual Atom
 $49 - Jetway 3 X Gigabit LAN
 $29 - 1 GB Memory
 $39 - 1 GB SATA DOM
 --
 $286

 I have also built basically the same as above, but an Intel
D945GCLF
 (Single Core Intel chipset) for about the same.

 $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU (unneeded) and Power Adapter
 $69 - Motherboard
 $9 - Riser Card
 $29 - 1 GB Memory
 $10 - USB Flash Drive
 $99 - RB44G (or 4 port Ethernet card)
 -
 $285

 Eric




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 11:51 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

 Care to share your parts list? I can't seem to put everything
together
 for less than $200... and I'd love to test one of these.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Eric Rogers wrote:
 
> We have been testing mini-box.com's little toys.  They are Atom
> processors, but with a SATA DOM, dual core 1.6GHz Atom, 3 GB Ether
> add-on (total of 4 GB ports), we have been able to keep them right
at
> the $200 mark.  We just implemented our first one this week.  So
far,
>   
 so
 
> good.  The true test is the heat of the summer in some of these
> enclosures.  None are vented, but the sites are kept less than
90*.
>
> For $200, I can stock many on the shelf for lightning
replacements.
>   
>>> I
>>>   
> am really worried more about the heat.
>
> Eric
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>   
 On
 
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:19 PM
> To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

[can...@believewireless.net]

We get Dell 1U Quad Core boxes, install flash drives and Intel NICs
and these are fine.  We can easily do 500Mbps Mikrotik speed tests
over a PPTP link across two Bridgewave links.  All for around $1000.



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Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Just seen a WISP here over the weekend show me his new core router. Core 2
Duo in a rackmount 4U case with 5 PCI network cards and Solid State Hard
Drive. And 2 gigs of RAM. I think the Solid State Hard Drive is whats gonna
make that thing last forever. As long as he doesn't have a power supply
failure but that can be replaced fairly quickly without needing to
re-install the system.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

Personally, I would be looking at an Intel Core2Duo or higher system. 
There are many for sale on ebay in 1u cases. Something like item 
#170451664096 would be perfect... I'm sure there are many other choices 
on ebay, this was just the first one that came up.

Travis


Jon Auer wrote:
> Just saw Travis's mention of this board on the Mikrotik list.
> Man. lots of action on this general topic all over the place.
>
> What would you recommend for handling say, 200Mbps of VPLS and general
> packet bashing (iBGP+OSPF). Connection tracking turned off and only
> host-protection ACLs?
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jon Auer  wrote:
>   
>> Would that be the SYS-5015A-H 1U?
>>
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101262&cm_re=superm
icro_atom-_-16-101-262-_-Product
>>
>> It has Realtek GigE onboard. Anyone have experiences with that brand
>> of ethernet chipset under RouterOS?
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:
>> 
>>> If you are looking for rackmount units, supermicro has a rackmount atom
>>> dual core bare bones system ... pricing is in the #250 - $300 range
>>>
>>> It has 2 GBE interfaces and PCIE expansion
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> 787.273.4143
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:16 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I will stay with the
>>> PC and try out the Atoms with a DOM. One of my goals was to cut down on
>>> electric usage also, and it looks like they will do the trick.
>>>
>>> Scottie
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Eric Rogers" 
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>> Date:  Sun, 7 Mar 2010 00:19:47 -0500
>>>
>>>   
 I must eat crow... I am horrible at addition and subtraction... 4 years
 of calculus and you would think I could at least add.  Sorry, I forgot
 
>>> I
>>>   
 used a USB dongle I already had in my original calculation, thinking it
 was near $200, but is was $250.  Complete system $286, and with
 quantities, I am sure it will come down.

 $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU and Power Adapter
 $109 - Jetway NC92-N330 1.6 Dual Atom
 $49 - Jetway 3 X Gigabit LAN
 $29 - 1 GB Memory
 $39 - 1 GB SATA DOM
 --
 $286

 I have also built basically the same as above, but an Intel D945GCLF
 (Single Core Intel chipset) for about the same.

 $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU (unneeded) and Power Adapter
 $69 - Motherboard
 $9 - Riser Card
 $29 - 1 GB Memory
 $10 - USB Flash Drive
 $99 - RB44G (or 4 port Ethernet card)
 -
 $285

 Eric




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 11:51 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

 Care to share your parts list? I can't seem to put everything together
 for less than $200... and I'd love to test one of these.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Eric Rogers wrote:
 
> We have been testing mini-box.com's little toys.  They are Atom
> processors, but with a SATA DOM, dual core 1.6GHz Atom, 3 GB Ether
> add-on (total of 4 GB ports), we have been able to keep them right at
> the $200 mark.  We just implemented our first one this week.  So far,
>   
 so
 
> good.  The true test is the heat of the summer in some of these
> enclosures.  None are vented, but the sites are kept less than 90*.
>
> For $200, I can stock many on the shelf for lightning replacements.
>   
>>> I
>>>   
> am really worried more about the heat.
>
> Eric
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>   
 On
 
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson

Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

[Gino Villarini]

Jon

We have been using Intel's/HP Carrier Server for this type of App.

Its basically a 2U NEBS compliant Server.  Its built by Intel, has 2 Xeon CPUS, 
2 Intel GBE and PCI X and PCI E expansion slots, Dual AC or DC Power and more

Very robust and reliable

Check out ebay for great deals on them 

http://cgi.ebay.com/TLPD0201-CARRIER-GRADE-SERVER-TIGPR2U-DC-POWER_W0QQitemZ190377918680QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Servers?hash=item2c536880d8#ht_2597wt_1165


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jon Auer
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:56 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

Oh, I'm still a believer in Cisco for the edge :-) Although I'm
looking at Juniper for the next upgrade. MX80s or MX240s if the MX80
isn't out by then.

The problem I have is we are upgrading a couple of backhaul rings to
licensed links and I'm supposed to make sure they can pass 200Mbps of
traffic as we want to use it to feed FTTH.

I'd use Cisco 3550s except they don't support IPv6 or VPLS and both
are hot stuff these days. My current scheme of 3550s with RB450Gs
handling IPv6 and other special services adds a bit too much
complexity for my liking.

Got a quote back from Ciena on some LE-311v (switch that does
VPLS/MPLS pseudowire/PBB-TE. Clearwire uses them as their tower
switches) and I'm still reeling from the sticker shock.

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
> ImageStream or Cisco would probably be best.  ImageStream if it's Ethernet,
> Cisco if it's a card that isn't support (note there is an OC12 card now,
> Travis).
>
> Realtek and Linux typically go together like fire and water.  Having said
> that, I believe the rb44 (non gigabit) is Realtek.  The admin station at the
> office has it (makes it easier plugged directly into a few devices at once
> and this network and that) and I can double check tomorrow.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
> that counts."
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Jon Auer  wrote:
>
>> Just saw Travis's mention of this board on the Mikrotik list.
>> Man. lots of action on this general topic all over the place.
>>
>> What would you recommend for handling say, 200Mbps of VPLS and general
>> packet bashing (iBGP+OSPF). Connection tracking turned off and only
>> host-protection ACLs?
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jon Auer  wrote:
>> > Would that be the SYS-5015A-H 1U?
>> >
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101262&cm_re=supermicro_atom-_-16-101-262-_-Product
>> >
>> > It has Realtek GigE onboard. Anyone have experiences with that brand
>> > of ethernet chipset under RouterOS?
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>> >> If you are looking for rackmount units, supermicro has a rackmount atom
>> >> dual core bare bones system ... pricing is in the #250 - $300 range
>> >>
>> >> It has 2 GBE interfaces and PCIE expansion
>> >>
>> >> Gino A. Villarini
>> >> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> >> 787.273.4143
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> >> Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:16 PM
>> >> To: WISPA General List
>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I will stay with the
>> >> PC and try out the Atoms with a DOM. One of my goals was to cut down on
>> >> electric usage also, and it looks like they will do the trick.
>> >>
>> >> Scottie
>> >>
>> >> -- Original Message --
>> >> From: "Eric Rogers" 
>> >> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> >> Date:  Sun, 7 Mar 2010 00:19:47 -0500
>> >>
>> >>>I must eat crow... I am horrible at addition and subtraction... 4 years
>> >>>of calculus and you would think I could at least add.  Sorry, I forgot
>> >> I
>> >>>used a USB dongle I already had in my original calculation, thinking it
>> >>>was near $200, but is was $250.  Complete system $286, and with
>> >>>quantities, I am sure it will come down.
>> >>>
>> >>>$69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU and Power Adapter
>> >>>$109 - Jetway NC92-N330 1.6 Dual Atom
>> >>>$49 - Jetway 3 X Gigabit LAN
>> >>>$29 - 1 GB Memory
>> >>>$39 - 1 GB SATA DOM
>> >>>--
>> >>>$286
>> >>>
>> >>>I have also built basically the same as above, but an Intel D945GCLF
>> >>>(Single Core Intel chipset) for about the same.
>> >>>
>> >>>$69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU (unneeded) and Power Adapter
>> >>>$69 - Motherboard
>> >>>$9 - Riser Card
>> >>>$29 - 1 GB Memory
>> >>>$10 - USB Flash Drive
>> >>>$99 - RB44G (or 4 port Ethernet card)
>> >>>-
>