Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M

[Faisal Imtiaz]

I have Mikrotik 750 / 750G, with Multiple Rocket M5 for a typical POP..

I am not getting any packet loss, when doing pings from the MK to Rocket 
M5, with the timeout changed to 100.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom


On 9/11/2010 8:52 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
> Rick:
>
> Since I know you have MikroTik in your network, do you have any that
> have a Rocket plugged into them?  If you do, open up Winbox, go to
> tools, Ping.  Change the timeout to 100, and ping your rocket.  Do you
> have any lost packets?  We're seeing 2-7% packet loss.  Are you using
> 100mbit?  Through the air, everything is fine.  I'm getting good speeds,
> but when it goes through the Rocket, and onto the AP, I'm seeing lots of
> packet loss.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:22 PM, RickG  > wrote:
>
> Here is my interface stats:
> XM.v5.2# ifconfig
> ath0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97
>UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST  MTU:1500
>   Metric:1
>RX packets:1704984 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>TX packets:2180287 errors:0 dropped:813 overruns:0 carrier:0
>collisions:0 txqueuelen:200
>RX bytes:430972687 (411.0 MiB)  TX bytes:2053965333 (1.9 GiB)
>
> br0   Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97
>inet addr:10.10.100.29  Bcast:10.10.100.255
>   Mask:255.255.255.0
>UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>RX packets:187903 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>TX packets:5865 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>RX bytes:18303057 (17.4 MiB)  TX bytes:566985 (553.6 KiB)
>
> eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:19:1B:97
>UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>RX packets:2171167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>TX packets:1704486 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>collisions:0 txqueuelen:500
>RX bytes:2053358505 (1.9 GiB)  TX bytes:431157904 (411.1 MiB)
>
> eth1_real Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 02:15:6D:19:1B:97
>UP BROADCAST PROMISC MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>collisions:0 txqueuelen:500
>RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
>
> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>RX bytes:89 (89.0 B)  TX bytes:89 (89.0 B)
>
> wifi0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97
>UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>TX packets:0 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>collisions:0 txqueuelen:511
>RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
>Interrupt:48 Memory:b000-b001
>
> XM.v5.2#
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Chuck Hogg  > wrote:
>
> I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes  > wrote:
>
> Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the
> other MT on the tower see.
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> General Manager
>
> PCS-WIN 
>
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service 
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Justin
> Wilson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM
>
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
>
> In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that
> made no difference.  I figured it might have been an issue
> with the 493G board.  We used to see issues with Tranzeo and
> 450Gs so I figured it might be similar.  Putting the switch
> in did not help.  Cable run is only about 20 feet.  It is
> being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24.
>   Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to
> the Mik

Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

[Jeremie Chism]

Part of their mac polling will turn it off if their is not traffic for a while. 
If I remember correctly their is a high priority setting that will keep it up. 
I will check all that at the office Monday. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 11, 2010, at 8:34 PM, "Kevin R. Battersby"  wrote:

> On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>> That is from the CCU side.  In all of our testing we are seeing high ping
>> spikes.  Is there any other commands than "air" that you would recommend
>> for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them?
> 
> Try "ping -i.4" in *nix or the equivalent. You need to keep the ping 
> iterations 
> under 400 milliseconds to force the modem to be active continuously.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Kevin R. Battersby 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

[Greg Ihnen]

What about using flood ping "-f". Does that work in Linux. I use that in Mac OS 
X.

Greg

On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Kevin R. Battersby wrote:

> On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>> That is from the CCU side.  In all of our testing we are seeing high ping
>> spikes.  Is there any other commands than "air" that you would recommend
>> for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them?
> 
> Try "ping -i.4" in *nix or the equivalent. You need to keep the ping 
> iterations 
> under 400 milliseconds to force the modem to be active continuously.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Kevin R. Battersby 




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Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

[Robert West]

I LIKE breaking things.  At least with the “Proper” rental contract……

 

 

 

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Of Robert West
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

 

I’m listening.  I looked at that at the local rental.  Plastic and long.  Was 
an issue with me.  Maybe I need to rent one to see if I can break it.  

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

 

It's just a hassle to use. The outriggers need alot of room. Very springy

Jerry Richardson

Sent Mobile


On Sep 11, 2010, at 4:32 PM, "Robert West"  wrote:

I’m hearin’ ya.  What were the issues?

 

Bob-

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

 

Rented one several times. Works fine but would not want to use it on a regular 
basis.

 

- Jerry

 

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Of Robert West
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:37 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

 

Has anyone used or owned a  Bil-Jax Towable Boom Lift?  Been looking….  Can’t 
afford a decent boom truck so the economics work for one of these boom lift 
trailers.

 

 

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

740-335-7020

 



 






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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

[Greg Ihnen]

Mac OS X (bash) says:

ping -i.4 192.168.7.1
ping: -i interval too short: Operation not permitted

using sudo makes it work.

It might be the same for Linux.

Greg

On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Kevin R. Battersby wrote:

> On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>> That is from the CCU side.  In all of our testing we are seeing high ping
>> spikes.  Is there any other commands than "air" that you would recommend
>> for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them?
> 
> Try "ping -i.4" in *nix or the equivalent. You need to keep the ping 
> iterations 
> under 400 milliseconds to force the modem to be active continuously.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Kevin R. Battersby 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

[Robert West]

I’m listening.  I looked at that at the local rental.  Plastic and long.  Was 
an issue with me.  Maybe I need to rent one to see if I can break it.  

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

 

It's just a hassle to use. The outriggers need alot of room. Very springy

Jerry Richardson

Sent Mobile


On Sep 11, 2010, at 4:32 PM, "Robert West"  wrote:

I’m hearin’ ya.  What were the issues?

 

Bob-

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

 

Rented one several times. Works fine but would not want to use it on a regular 
basis.

 

- Jerry

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Robert West
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:37 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

 

Has anyone used or owned a  Bil-Jax Towable Boom Lift?  Been looking….  Can’t 
afford a decent boom truck so the economics work for one of these boom lift 
trailers.

 

 

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

740-335-7020

 



 






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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

[Kevin R. Battersby]

On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote:
> That is from the CCU side.  In all of our testing we are seeing high ping
> spikes.  Is there any other commands than "air" that you would recommend
> for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them?

Try "ping -i.4" in *nix or the equivalent. You need to keep the ping iterations 
under 400 milliseconds to force the modem to be active continuously.

-- 
Regards,
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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

[Chuck Hogg]

That is from the CCU side.  In all of our testing we are seeing high ping
spikes.  Is there any other commands than "air" that you would recommend for
trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them?

Regards,

Chuck


On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:35 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net <
my_em...@webjogger.net> wrote:

>  I think a lot depends on what the signal strength is on the CCU (AU) side.
> I several links that from the EUM (SU) are worse than -85, but at the CCU
> they are better than -78. Mind you these links aren't supper fast though,
> especially on the upload. It's okay if they're a lower usage customer.
>
> Jon
>
>
> On 9/10/2010 6:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
> Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this equipment?
>
>  With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS
> reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75.  I have seen another
> WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients are at -80 to
> -95.  Are signals using this equipment that usable at those rates?  Can
> anyone shed some light on this really old gear?  Any information is
> appreciated...
>
> Regards,
>
> Chuck
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M

[Chuck Hogg]

Rick:

Since I know you have MikroTik in your network, do you have any that have a
Rocket plugged into them?  If you do, open up Winbox, go to tools, Ping.
 Change the timeout to 100, and ping your rocket.  Do you have any lost
packets?  We're seeing 2-7% packet loss.  Are you using 100mbit?  Through
the air, everything is fine.  I'm getting good speeds, but when it goes
through the Rocket, and onto the AP, I'm seeing lots of packet loss.

Regards,

Chuck


On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:22 PM, RickG  wrote:

> Here is my interface stats:
> XM.v5.2# ifconfig
> ath0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST  MTU:1500
>  Metric:1
>   RX packets:1704984 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:2180287 errors:0 dropped:813 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:200
>   RX bytes:430972687 (411.0 MiB)  TX bytes:2053965333 (1.9 GiB)
>
> br0   Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97
>   inet addr:10.10.100.29  Bcast:10.10.100.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:187903 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:5865 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>   RX bytes:18303057 (17.4 MiB)  TX bytes:566985 (553.6 KiB)
>
> eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:19:1B:97
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:2171167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:1704486 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:500
>   RX bytes:2053358505 (1.9 GiB)  TX bytes:431157904 (411.1 MiB)
>
> eth1_real Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 02:15:6D:19:1B:97
>   UP BROADCAST PROMISC MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:500
>   RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
>
> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>   RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>   RX bytes:89 (89.0 B)  TX bytes:89 (89.0 B)
>
> wifi0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:0 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:511
>   RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
>   Interrupt:48 Memory:b000-b001
>
> XM.v5.2#
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>
>> I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>> Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on
>>> the tower see.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steve Barnes*
>>>
>>> General Manager
>>>
>>> PCS-WIN 
>>>
>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Justin Wilson
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no
>>> difference.  I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board.  We
>>> used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar.
>>>  Putting the switch in did not help.  Cable run is only about 20 feet.  It
>>> is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24.  Other devices on
>>> the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik.
>>>
>>> Some theories at the moment:
>>>
>>> 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the
>>> ethernet chipset to cause issues.
>>> 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least)
>>> 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port.
>>> 4.Mikrotik board has an issue.
>>>
>>> Justin
>>> --
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>>> http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *Chuck Hogg 
>>> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List 
>>> *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400
>>> *To: *, WISPA General List 
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
>>>
>>> I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday)
>>>
>>> It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well.
>>>
>>> The issue also o

Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

[Jerry Richardson]

It's just a hassle to use. The outriggers need alot of room. Very springy

Jerry Richardson
Sent Mobile

On Sep 11, 2010, at 4:32 PM, "Robert West" 
mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com>> wrote:

I’m hearin’ ya.  What were the issues?

Bob-


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

Rented one several times. Works fine but would not want to use it on a regular 
basis.

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:37 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

Has anyone used or owned a  Bil-Jax Towable Boom Lift?  Been looking….  Can’t 
afford a decent boom truck so the economics work for one of these boom lift 
trailers.



Robert West
Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
740-335-7020







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Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

[Robert West]

20k be pretty cool for my taste.  Been looking g at a couple for 5 to 7
grand.  Ten years old but certified, as I am as well.

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

 

I've got a customer who bought a very nice lift truck after he got a
contract to work in Louisiana after Katrina. I've used a few times and it
works well. It only has 65k miles. He no longer needs it and said he'd let
me have it for $20k. I dont recall what year it is but its fairly new in
good shape. At any rate, I dont get anything for selling it but thought I'd
pass this along. Offlist if your interested and I'll gather more info if
your serious.

-RickG

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Robert West 
wrote:

Has anyone used or owned a  Bil-Jax Towable Boom Lift?  Been looking..
Can't afford a decent boom truck so the economics work for one of these boom
lift trailers.

 

 

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

740-335-7020

 

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Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

[Robert West]

I'm hearin' ya.  What were the issues?

 

Bob-

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

 

Rented one several times. Works fine but would not want to use it on a
regular basis.

 

- Jerry

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:37 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

 

Has anyone used or owned a  Bil-Jax Towable Boom Lift?  Been looking..
Can't afford a decent boom truck so the economics work for one of these boom
lift trailers.

 

 

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

740-335-7020

 

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Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?

[Robert West]

You can direct bury a steel pole the same as a wooden.  You just lose height
the same as wooden.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin Owen
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:47 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?

 

Right, my example was only to envision the type or size of pole being used,
as say opposed to a direct bury mono-pole that is familiar to many of us and
way too large for this application.


Kevin

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 7:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?

 

I believe streetlights are mounted onto a concrete base, not directly
buried.

 
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
 


On 9/10/2010 9:37 AM, Kevin Owen wrote: 

Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct
bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc?  I
have a need for a client to be up ~30' for a single 1' dish.  That will be
the only thing ever on the pole, so it won't be loaded.  It can't be guyed,
and they would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics.
We have been asked to use something like a streetlight pole.  We have never
used such a pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole?

Kevin 

First Step Internet, LLC  

 
 
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe

[Robert West]

Um   But I've seen tube be stronger than solid.  Physics?

 

Or maybe..

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe

 

Well heck, if you want the ultimate in strength, use solid steel round bar
then. I've got some tower sections like that but man are they heavy!

 

Bars are for transfer of materials too - when they're serving that is! Saved
that one for you Bob =P

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Robert West 
wrote:

Pipe is for the transfer of material, Tube is for structure.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe

 

Just remember that pipe sizes are done with inside dimensions not outside.

marlon

 

- Original Message - 

From: Justin Wilson   

To: WISPA General List   

Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe

 

   You could go 2" with some pipe to pipe mounts.  This would protect you
from lightning a little better and give you flexibility.
-- 
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From: Mike Hammett 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:19:33 -0500
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe

 While our grain leg is having some maintenance done on it, I thought 
I'd have them weld pipes into the platform instead of my usual U-bolt or 
similar attachment method.  I figured it'd be more secure than attaching 
with hardware.

What is a good universal pipe to have installed?  I don't remember 
dimensions, but I recently tried to attach some UBNT PowerBridges at a 
site and the pipe was too big.  Other times I've found the pipe too 
small for the antenna's mount.  What did Goldilocks find for the pipe 
that was just right?


-- 


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Re: [WISPA] testing... What happened?

[Robert West]

Sadly.  I am with you on that condemnation.

*Sigh*



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] testing... What happened?

  No!

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On 9/9/2010 10:21 PM, Robert West wrote:
> Put away the alcohol.  It's all good
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:59 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] testing... What happened?
>
>There was a post 1.5 hours before this one.
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?

[Robert West]

Check with your local department of transportation.  Think for a moment
Idiot hits pole, pole goes down.  Pole bent or broken.  DOT has to get rid
of it.  Before it goes to recycler, go get it for scrap value.

 

You may have to call a few DOT facilities to get what you want but a good
size and still useable pole, after some modification, could be had for 100
to 200 bucks or even less depending on the local big shot.

 

Been there.  80 foot pole with "slight" bend and elongated bolt holes
60 bucks!

 

Another source..

 

Closed down gas stations along the interstate.  Big twin poles for a sign,
sign long gone.  Expense is usually the time and equipment to take it down.
I've had them given for free for the take down,  lowers their insurance.

 

 

Steve-

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?

 

What about a flag pole?

http://www.flagpolewarehouse.com/flagpoles/commercial/index.shtml

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Kevin Owen  wrote:

Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct
bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc?  I
have a need for a client to be up ~30' for a single 1' dish.  That will be
the only thing ever on the pole, so it won't be loaded.  It can't be guyed,
and they would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics.
We have been asked to use something like a streetlight pole.  We have never
used such a pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole?

Kevin 

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Re: [WISPA] Wind Turbines

[Robert West]

Not much more of an issue than a new grain  leg!

 

 

Go make a deal for tower space!

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wind Turbines

 

Doesn't help you but I would imagine you would be a grinch to object.

On Sep 11, 2010 6:44 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:

Anyone have experience with a wind farm coming into their area. They are
planning on 29 wind turbines about 8 miles from my tower. Should I panic and
raise objections or what.
Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] Wind Turbines

[Josh Luthman]

Doesn't help you but I would imagine you would be a grinch to object.

On Sep 11, 2010 6:44 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:

Anyone have experience with a wind farm coming into their area. They are
planning on 29 wind turbines about 8 miles from my tower. Should I panic and
raise objections or what.
Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] Wind Turbines

[Chris Hudson]

Not at all, I have 95 I think with 2-5 miles.

Chris
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From: "~NGL~" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:43 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Wind Turbines


> Anyone have experience with a wind farm coming into their area. They are
> planning on 29 wind turbines about 8 miles from my tower. Should I panic 
> and
> raise objections or what.
> Thanx
> NGL
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[WISPA] Wind Turbines

[~NGL~]

Anyone have experience with a wind farm coming into their area. They are 
planning on 29 wind turbines about 8 miles from my tower. Should I panic and 
raise objections or what.
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

[Philip Dorr]

Would a RB1000 and HP Procurve work?

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Matt Jenkins  wrote:
> Yikes $40k again. I am trying to come up with a sub $12k solution.
>
> On 09/11/2010 02:39 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
>> No I haven't. But I will look into it now. Let me know how your talk
>> with the sales guys goes?
>>
>> On 09/11/2010 02:38 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>>
>>> That makes sense.
>>> BGP over a VPLS VC shouldn't be any different than BGP across a
>>> Ethernet cable AFAIK.
>>>
>>> Have you checked out the Alcatel-Lucent SR series routers? I'm
>>> supposed to be talking to one of their sales reps next week. They nare
>>> really trying to gain market share and i hear hey have some good
>>> deals.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins   
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 I am thinking its time to use a switch as a switch and a router as a
 router. I am thinking about using this for the MPLS backbone and put in
 actual 7200/7300 routers at locations where full BGP needs to be
 offered. What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can
 establish a BGP peering session over a VPLS VC.


 On 09/11/2010 01:25 PM, Jon Auer wrote:


> Beware of the TCAM size on that box.
> IIRC it hasn't been able to take full internet routes since 2008
> because of that limitation.
>
> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins  
>    wrote:
>
>
>
>> After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub
>> $20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all.
>>
>> On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 
>>> switches...
>>> You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to
>>> RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or
>>> greater you aren't going to find that.
>>>
>>> The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You
>>> should be able to get it for $30-50K.
>>>
>>> Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been
>>> known to do.
>>> Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at
>>> the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route
>>> reflector to the customer and vice versa.
>>> Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border
>>> router/route reflector.
>>>
>>> Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like
>>> the most straightforward solution to me.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkins 
>>>       wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T 
 ports
 with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any
 suggestions?

 For those who wonder why I am upgrading all of my backhauls to
 support ~300mbps. In addition I need to be able to offer BGP 
 connections
 to customers from this ring of backhauls.

 - Matt


 
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Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

[Jerry Richardson]

I have not enabled it so I don't know the impact.

Seems like it can't hurt but maybe the radios think there is a loop when there 
isn't and is shutting down?

Just guessing at this point.

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 2:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

Yes. It could coincindence but I'll give it another whirl. What about Spanning 
Tree?
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Jerry Richardson 
mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>> wrote:
WDS just simply allows transparent bridging. We run our in AP ADS and Station 
WDS and it works fine - better actually.

Are you saying that after you changed to WDS you started dropping stations? I 
would suspect it's coincidence but I could be wrong.

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

I started turning on WDS mode on some of my UBNT AP's but started getting weird 
issues such as dropping stations. These are in bridge mode. Does the mode 
matter?
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Jerry Richardson 
mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>> wrote:
Run the AP and SM in WDS mode.

the radios do some funny things with ARP with it off.

- Jerry

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

I posted this to the UBNT list and haven't gotten a hit yet.

I have an NS2L serving as an AP plugged into a MT 750. It's acting strangely 
(wireless clients stay connected but periodically lose connectivity so I 
started looking around. In the ARP table I found this:


IP Address  MAC address  Interface
192.168.7.200:25:00:49:E5:6B  BRIDGE
24.56.178.140 00:00:00:00:00:00  BRIDGE


The network is 192.168.7.0/24. The MT doesn't show the 
24.56.178.140 address, nor does any of the other equipment on the network. A 
reboot doesn't clear the 24.56.178.140 address from the arp table. The MT's 
connections list doesn't show 24.56.178.140.

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

[Matt Jenkins]

Yikes $40k again. I am trying to come up with a sub $12k solution.

On 09/11/2010 02:39 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
> No I haven't. But I will look into it now. Let me know how your talk
> with the sales guys goes?
>
> On 09/11/2010 02:38 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>
>> That makes sense.
>> BGP over a VPLS VC shouldn't be any different than BGP across a
>> Ethernet cable AFAIK.
>>
>> Have you checked out the Alcatel-Lucent SR series routers? I'm
>> supposed to be talking to one of their sales reps next week. They nare
>> really trying to gain market share and i hear hey have some good
>> deals.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins   
>> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> I am thinking its time to use a switch as a switch and a router as a
>>> router. I am thinking about using this for the MPLS backbone and put in
>>> actual 7200/7300 routers at locations where full BGP needs to be
>>> offered. What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can
>>> establish a BGP peering session over a VPLS VC.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/11/2010 01:25 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Beware of the TCAM size on that box.
 IIRC it hasn't been able to take full internet routes since 2008
 because of that limitation.

 On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins   
   wrote:


  
> After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub
> $20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all.
>
> On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>
>
>
>> Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 
>> switches...
>> You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to
>> RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or
>> greater you aren't going to find that.
>>
>> The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You
>> should be able to get it for $30-50K.
>>
>> Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been
>> known to do.
>> Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at
>> the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route
>> reflector to the customer and vice versa.
>> Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border
>> router/route reflector.
>>
>> Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like
>> the most straightforward solution to me.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkins  
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>> I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T ports
>>> with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any
>>> suggestions?
>>>
>>> For those who wonder why I am upgrading all of my backhauls to
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>>> to customers from this ring of backhauls.
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

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No I haven't. But I will look into it now. Let me know how your talk 
with the sales guys goes?

On 09/11/2010 02:38 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
> That makes sense.
> BGP over a VPLS VC shouldn't be any different than BGP across a
> Ethernet cable AFAIK.
>
> Have you checked out the Alcatel-Lucent SR series routers? I'm
> supposed to be talking to one of their sales reps next week. They nare
> really trying to gain market share and i hear hey have some good
> deals.
>
> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins  
> wrote:
>
>> I am thinking its time to use a switch as a switch and a router as a
>> router. I am thinking about using this for the MPLS backbone and put in
>> actual 7200/7300 routers at locations where full BGP needs to be
>> offered. What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can
>> establish a BGP peering session over a VPLS VC.
>>
>>
>> On 09/11/2010 01:25 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>>  
>>> Beware of the TCAM size on that box.
>>> IIRC it hasn't been able to take full internet routes since 2008
>>> because of that limitation.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub
 $20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all.

 On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote:

  
> Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 
> switches...
> You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to
> RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or
> greater you aren't going to find that.
>
> The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You
> should be able to get it for $30-50K.
>
> Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been
> known to do.
> Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at
> the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route
> reflector to the customer and vice versa.
> Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border
> router/route reflector.
>
> Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like
> the most straightforward solution to me.
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkins   
>wrote:
>
>
>
>> I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T ports
>> with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any
>> suggestions?
>>
>> For those who wonder why I am upgrading all of my backhauls to
>> support ~300mbps. In addition I need to be able to offer BGP connections
>> to customers from this ring of backhauls.
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

[Jon Auer]

That makes sense.
BGP over a VPLS VC shouldn't be any different than BGP across a
Ethernet cable AFAIK.

Have you checked out the Alcatel-Lucent SR series routers? I'm
supposed to be talking to one of their sales reps next week. They nare
really trying to gain market share and i hear hey have some good
deals.

On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins  wrote:
> I am thinking its time to use a switch as a switch and a router as a
> router. I am thinking about using this for the MPLS backbone and put in
> actual 7200/7300 routers at locations where full BGP needs to be
> offered. What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can
> establish a BGP peering session over a VPLS VC.
>
>
> On 09/11/2010 01:25 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>> Beware of the TCAM size on that box.
>> IIRC it hasn't been able to take full internet routes since 2008
>> because of that limitation.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub
>>> $20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all.
>>>
>>> On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>>>
 Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 
 switches...
 You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to
 RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or
 greater you aren't going to find that.

 The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You
 should be able to get it for $30-50K.

 Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been
 known to do.
 Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at
 the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route
 reflector to the customer and vice versa.
 Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border
 router/route reflector.

 Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like
 the most straightforward solution to me.

 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkins    
 wrote:


> I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T ports
> with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any
> suggestions?
>
> For those who wonder why I am upgrading all of my backhauls to
> support ~300mbps. In addition I need to be able to offer BGP connections
> to customers from this ring of backhauls.
>
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Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

[RickG]

Yes. It could coincindence but I'll give it another whirl. What about
Spanning Tree?

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Jerry Richardson
wrote:

>  WDS just simply allows transparent bridging. We run our in AP ADS and
> Station WDS and it works fine - better actually.
>
>
>
> Are you saying that after you changed to WDS you started dropping stations?
> I would suspect it’s coincidence but I could be wrong.
>
>
>
> - Jerry
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *RickG
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:24 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness
>
>
>
> I started turning on WDS mode on some of my UBNT AP's but started getting
> weird issues such as dropping stations. These are in bridge mode. Does the
> mode matter?
>
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Jerry Richardson <
> jrichard...@aircloud.com> wrote:
>
> Run the AP and SM in WDS mode.
>
> the radios do some funny things with ARP with it off.
>
> - Jerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:44 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness
>
> I posted this to the UBNT list and haven't gotten a hit yet.
>
> I have an NS2L serving as an AP plugged into a MT 750. It's acting
> strangely (wireless clients stay connected but periodically lose
> connectivity so I started looking around. In the ARP table I found this:
>
>
> IP Address  MAC address  Interface
> 192.168.7.200:25:00:49:E5:6B  BRIDGE
> 24.56.178.140 00:00:00:00:00:00  BRIDGE
>
>
> The network is 192.168.7.0/24. The MT doesn't show the 24.56.178.140
> address, nor does any of the other equipment on the network. A reboot
> doesn't clear the 24.56.178.140 address from the arp table. The MT's
> connections list doesn't show 24.56.178.140.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

[Faisal Imtiaz]

-
What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can establish a BGP 
peering session over a VPLS VC.
-

Should not be any different than setting up BGP over a Physical 
Connection.. As long IP is being passed it should not be a problem.


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On 9/11/2010 4:47 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
> I am thinking its time to use a switch as a switch and a router as a
> router. I am thinking about using this for the MPLS backbone and put in
> actual 7200/7300 routers at locations where full BGP needs to be
> offered. What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can
> establish a BGP peering session over a VPLS VC.
>
>
> On 09/11/2010 01:25 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>> Beware of the TCAM size on that box.
>> IIRC it hasn't been able to take full internet routes since 2008
>> because of that limitation.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins   
>> wrote:
>>
>>> After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub
>>> $20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all.
>>>
>>> On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>>>
 Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 
 switches...
 You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to
 RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or
 greater you aren't going to find that.

 The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You
 should be able to get it for $30-50K.

 Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been
 known to do.
 Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at
 the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route
 reflector to the customer and vice versa.
 Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border
 router/route reflector.

 Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like
 the most straightforward solution to me.

 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkins
  wrote:


> I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T ports
> with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any
> suggestions?
>
> For those who wonder why I am upgrading all of my backhauls to
> support ~300mbps. In addition I need to be able to offer BGP connections
> to customers from this ring of backhauls.
>
> - Matt
>
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Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

[Jerry Richardson]

WDS just simply allows transparent bridging. We run our in AP ADS and Station 
WDS and it works fine - better actually.

Are you saying that after you changed to WDS you started dropping stations? I 
would suspect it's coincidence but I could be wrong.

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

I started turning on WDS mode on some of my UBNT AP's but started getting weird 
issues such as dropping stations. These are in bridge mode. Does the mode 
matter?
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Jerry Richardson 
mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>> wrote:
Run the AP and SM in WDS mode.

the radios do some funny things with ARP with it off.

- Jerry

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

I posted this to the UBNT list and haven't gotten a hit yet.

I have an NS2L serving as an AP plugged into a MT 750. It's acting strangely 
(wireless clients stay connected but periodically lose connectivity so I 
started looking around. In the ARP table I found this:


IP Address  MAC address  Interface
192.168.7.200:25:00:49:E5:6B  BRIDGE
24.56.178.140 00:00:00:00:00:00  BRIDGE


The network is 192.168.7.0/24. The MT doesn't show the 
24.56.178.140 address, nor does any of the other equipment on the network. A 
reboot doesn't clear the 24.56.178.140 address from the arp table. The MT's 
connections list doesn't show 24.56.178.140.

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Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

[Jerry Richardson]

Rented one several times. Works fine but would not want to use it on a regular 
basis.

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Robert West
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:37 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

Has anyone used or owned a  Bil-Jax Towable Boom Lift?  Been looking  Can't 
afford a decent boom truck so the economics work for one of these boom lift 
trailers.



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Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

[RickG]

I've got a customer who bought a very nice lift truck after he got a
contract to work in Louisiana after Katrina. I've used a few times and it
works well. It only has 65k miles. He no longer needs it and said he'd let
me have it for $20k. I dont recall what year it is but its fairly new in
good shape. At any rate, I dont get anything for selling it but thought I'd
pass this along. Offlist if your interested and I'll gather more info if
your serious.
-RickG

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Robert West wrote:

>  Has anyone used or owned a  Bil-Jax Towable Boom Lift?  Been looking….
> Can’t afford a decent boom truck so the economics work for one of these boom
> lift trailers.
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Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

[Josh Luthman]

On the AP? No.  The station has to be bridge.

On Sep 11, 2010 4:26 PM, "RickG"  wrote:

I started turning on WDS mode on some of my UBNT AP's but started getting
weird issues such as dropping stations. These are in bridge mode. Does the
mode matter?



On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Jerry Richardson 
wrote:
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

[Matt Jenkins]

I am thinking its time to use a switch as a switch and a router as a 
router. I am thinking about using this for the MPLS backbone and put in 
actual 7200/7300 routers at locations where full BGP needs to be 
offered. What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can 
establish a BGP peering session over a VPLS VC.


On 09/11/2010 01:25 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
> Beware of the TCAM size on that box.
> IIRC it hasn't been able to take full internet routes since 2008
> because of that limitation.
>
> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins  
> wrote:
>
>> After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub
>> $20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all.
>>
>> On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>>  
>>> Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 
>>> switches...
>>> You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to
>>> RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or
>>> greater you aren't going to find that.
>>>
>>> The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You
>>> should be able to get it for $30-50K.
>>>
>>> Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been
>>> known to do.
>>> Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at
>>> the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route
>>> reflector to the customer and vice versa.
>>> Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border
>>> router/route reflector.
>>>
>>> Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like
>>> the most straightforward solution to me.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkins
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T ports
 with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any
 suggestions?

 For those who wonder why I am upgrading all of my backhauls to
 support ~300mbps. In addition I need to be able to offer BGP connections
 to customers from this ring of backhauls.

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[WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

[Robert West]

Has anyone used or owned a  Bil-Jax Towable Boom Lift?  Been looking..
Can't afford a decent boom truck so the economics work for one of these boom
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

[Jon Auer]

Beware of the TCAM size on that box.
IIRC it hasn't been able to take full internet routes since 2008
because of that limitation.

On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins  wrote:
> After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub
> $20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all.
>
> On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>> Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 
>> switches...
>> You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to
>> RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or
>> greater you aren't going to find that.
>>
>> The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You
>> should be able to get it for $30-50K.
>>
>> Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been
>> known to do.
>> Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at
>> the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route
>> reflector to the customer and vice versa.
>> Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border
>> router/route reflector.
>>
>> Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like
>> the most straightforward solution to me.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkins  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T ports
>>> with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any
>>> suggestions?
>>>
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>>> support ~300mbps. In addition I need to be able to offer BGP connections
>>> to customers from this ring of backhauls.
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Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

[RickG]

I started turning on WDS mode on some of my UBNT AP's but started getting
weird issues such as dropping stations. These are in bridge mode. Does the
mode matter?

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Jerry Richardson
wrote:

> Run the AP and SM in WDS mode.
>
> the radios do some funny things with ARP with it off.
>
> - Jerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:44 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness
>
> I posted this to the UBNT list and haven't gotten a hit yet.
>
> I have an NS2L serving as an AP plugged into a MT 750. It's acting
> strangely (wireless clients stay connected but periodically lose
> connectivity so I started looking around. In the ARP table I found this:
>
>
> IP Address  MAC address  Interface
> 192.168.7.200:25:00:49:E5:6B  BRIDGE
> 24.56.178.140 00:00:00:00:00:00  BRIDGE
>
>
> The network is 192.168.7.0/24. The MT doesn't show the 24.56.178.140
> address, nor does any of the other equipment on the network. A reboot
> doesn't clear the 24.56.178.140 address from the arp table. The MT's
> connections list doesn't show 24.56.178.140.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] TV Whitespaces Support Letter Template

[Jack Unger]

  
  
Correction (Wednesday is not the 16th - oops). 

Your comments must be filed before 5 PM ET on Thursday, Sept. 16. 

Please file soon. 

Thank-you, 
  jack


On 9/11/2010 11:00 AM, Jack Unger wrote:

  
  Comments must be on file by the end of the day Wednesday, Sept.
  16. 
  
  On 9/11/2010 9:22 AM, Victoria Proffer wrote:
  




  This

  is great, thanks WISPA!
   
  What

  is the due date on this?
   
  
Victoria

  Proffer - President/CEO
www.ShowMeBroadband.com
www.StLouisBroadband.com
314-974-5600
  
   
  

  From: members-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org]
  On Behalf Of Rick Harnish
  Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:55 AM
  To: memb...@wispa.org;
  'WISPA General List'; motor...@afmug.com
  Subject: [WISPA Members] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL:
  HIGH] TV Whitespaces Support Letter Template
  Importance: High

  
   
  All WISPs,
   
  This week, WISPA filed comments on the TV
Whitespaces once again.  The FCC is set to make decisions on
this crucial topic very soon.  It is imperative for all
operators to take a few minutes and file individual comments
to the FCC about Unlicensed use of the TV Whitespaces
spectrum this week.  Please don’t procrastinate as the
timeline is fairly short.
   
  I have attached a template support letter
that Jack Unger has written to make your support and comment
filing easier.  Jack, Steve Coran and the FCC committee has
worked hard for several years and especially in our recent
filing.  We need to support their hard work efforts and
produce a mass support campaign to give the WISPA filing
even more credibility.  WISPs need more spectrum and we need
spectrum that will penetrate foliage and other obstacles. 
This is our opportunity and essentially our obligation to
stand up for our needs before this crucial decision is
made.  The WISPA filing can be read at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7020911589. 


   
  Please customize the
attached template letter with your company information
and if you want to add additional “local” flavor, it is
accepted.  The FCC staff will read each letter and
register the support for the WISPA filing to assist them
in making this tough decision.  We have received
excellent comments back from the FCC, other trade
associations and manufacturers about this filing and now
our membership and industry participants need to stand
up and be counted as well.
   
  Once you have customized
the letter, please make a .pdf copy or a .doc file and
upload it at the following website.  http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc. 
If

you choose not to use the WISPA template letter but want to
write your own comments, you can either follow the previous
procedure or use the Express filing method at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=nc5cd. 
The

proceeding number is 04-186.
   
  I cannot stress how important this is for
each WISP company to do.  I hope to search the filings
Monday morning and find 1000 or more new comments supporting
the WISPA filing.  Take a the time this weekend and “git r
dun” before your busy work schedule begins again Monday
morning.
   
  Respectfully,
   
  Rick Harnish
  Executive Director
  WISPA
  260-307-4000 cell
  866-317-2851 WISPA Office
  Skype: rick.harnish.
  rharn...@wispa.org
   
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Re: [WISPA] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] TV Whitespaces Support Letter Template

[Scott Carullo]

When submitting a filing, what is supposed to go in the details section.  There 
is a check box, drop down that says Comments, then a file number test box.  
Thanks

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
877-804-3001 x102



From: "Rick Harnish" 
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:54 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org, "WISPA General List" , 
motor...@afmug.com
Subject: [WISPA] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] TV Whitespaces Support Letter Template



All WISPs,

This week, WISPA filed comments on the TV Whitespaces once
again.  The FCC is set to make decisions on this crucial topic very
soon.  It is imperative for all operators to take a few minutes and file
individual comments to the FCC about Unlicensed use of the TV Whitespaces
spectrum this week.  Please don't procrastinate as the timeline is
fairly short.

I have attached a template support letter that Jack Unger
has written to make your support and comment filing easier.  Jack, Steve
Coran and the FCC committee has worked hard for several years and especially in
our recent filing.  We need to support their hard work efforts and produce
a mass support campaign to give the WISPA filing even more credibility.
WISPs need more spectrum and we need spectrum that will penetrate foliage and
other obstacles.  This is our opportunity and essentially our obligation
to stand up for our needs before this crucial decision is made.  The WISPA
filing can be read at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7020911589.


Please
customize the attached template letter with your company information and if you
want to add additional "local" flavor, it is accepted.  The
FCC staff will read each letter and register the support for the WISPA filing
to assist them in making this tough decision.  We have received excellent
comments back from the FCC, other trade associations and manufacturers about
this filing and now our membership and industry participants need to stand up
and be counted as well.

Once
you have customized the letter, please make a .pdf copy or a .doc file and
upload it at the following website.  
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc.
If you choose not to use the WISPA template letter but want to write your own
comments, you can either follow the previous procedure or use the Express
filing method at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=nc5cd.
The proceeding number is 04-186.

I cannot stress how important this is for each WISP company
to do.  I hope to search the filings Monday morning and find 1000 or more
new comments supporting the WISPA filing.  Take a the time this weekend and
"git r dun" before your busy work schedule begins again Monday
morning.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
Executive Director
WISPA
260-307-4000 cell
866-317-2851 WISPA Office
Skype: rick.harnish.
rharn...@wispa.org





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Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

[Greg Ihnen]

Yeah, the very latest. 3.5.1

I should have recognized the IP, that's the one I use for NTP.

Greg

On Sep 11, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

> Oh, nevermind.
> 
> That IP is a Time Server. http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi. Probably not 
> related to your problem.
> 
> Is the AP running the latest firmware?
> - Jerry
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness
> 
> Thanks. The only clients to the AP are laptops. Would the WDS setting do 
> anything then?
> 
> Greg
> 
> On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
> 
>> Run the AP and SM in WDS mode.
>> 
>> the radios do some funny things with ARP with it off.
>> 
>> - Jerry
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:44 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness
>> 
>> I posted this to the UBNT list and haven't gotten a hit yet.
>> 
>> I have an NS2L serving as an AP plugged into a MT 750. It's acting strangely 
>> (wireless clients stay connected but periodically lose connectivity so I 
>> started looking around. In the ARP table I found this:
>> 
>> 
>> IP Address  MAC address  Interface   
>> 192.168.7.200:25:00:49:E5:6B  BRIDGE
>> 24.56.178.140 00:00:00:00:00:00  BRIDGE
>> 
>> 
>> The network is 192.168.7.0/24. The MT doesn't show the 24.56.178.140 
>> address, nor does any of the other equipment on the network. A reboot 
>> doesn't clear the 24.56.178.140 address from the arp table. The MT's 
>> connections list doesn't show 24.56.178.140.
>> 
>> Anyone have any ideas?
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

[Josh Luthman]

Laptops will only do station mode.  Other stations can do WDS but only if
the ap supports it.

On Sep 11, 2010 2:31 PM, "Greg Ihnen"  wrote:

Thanks. The only clients to the AP are laptops. Would the WDS setting do
anything then?

Greg


On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

> Run the AP and SM in WDS mode.
>
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Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

[Jeromie Reeves]

Mmmm. They need to update their dns. Makes it look like a cable user.

Non-authoritative answer:
140.178.56.24.in-addr.arpa  name = 24-56-178-140.co.warpdriveonline.com.


On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Jerry Richardson
 wrote:
> Oh, nevermind.
>
> That IP is a Time Server. http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi. Probably not 
> related to your problem.
>
> Is the AP running the latest firmware?
> - Jerry
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness
>
> Thanks. The only clients to the AP are laptops. Would the WDS setting do 
> anything then?
>
> Greg
>
> On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
>
>> Run the AP and SM in WDS mode.
>>
>> the radios do some funny things with ARP with it off.
>>
>> - Jerry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:44 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness
>>
>> I posted this to the UBNT list and haven't gotten a hit yet.
>>
>> I have an NS2L serving as an AP plugged into a MT 750. It's acting strangely 
>> (wireless clients stay connected but periodically lose connectivity so I 
>> started looking around. In the ARP table I found this:
>>
>>
>> IP Address      MAC address          Interface
>> 192.168.7.2    00:25:00:49:E5:6B  BRIDGE
>> 24.56.178.140 00:00:00:00:00:00  BRIDGE
>>
>>
>> The network is 192.168.7.0/24. The MT doesn't show the 24.56.178.140 
>> address, nor does any of the other equipment on the network. A reboot 
>> doesn't clear the 24.56.178.140 address from the arp table. The MT's 
>> connections list doesn't show 24.56.178.140.
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas?
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

[Jerry Richardson]

Oh, nevermind.

That IP is a Time Server. http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi. Probably not 
related to your problem.

Is the AP running the latest firmware?
- Jerry


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

Thanks. The only clients to the AP are laptops. Would the WDS setting do 
anything then?

Greg

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

> Run the AP and SM in WDS mode.
> 
> the radios do some funny things with ARP with it off.
> 
> - Jerry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:44 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness
> 
> I posted this to the UBNT list and haven't gotten a hit yet.
> 
> I have an NS2L serving as an AP plugged into a MT 750. It's acting strangely 
> (wireless clients stay connected but periodically lose connectivity so I 
> started looking around. In the ARP table I found this:
> 
> 
> IP Address  MAC address  Interface   
> 192.168.7.200:25:00:49:E5:6B  BRIDGE
> 24.56.178.140 00:00:00:00:00:00  BRIDGE
> 
> 
> The network is 192.168.7.0/24. The MT doesn't show the 24.56.178.140 address, 
> nor does any of the other equipment on the network. A reboot doesn't clear 
> the 24.56.178.140 address from the arp table. The MT's connections list 
> doesn't show 24.56.178.140.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas?
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

[my_em...@webjogger.net]

 I think a lot depends on what the signal strength is on the CCU (AU) 
side. I several links that from the EUM (SU) are worse than -85, but at 
the CCU they are better than -78. Mind you these links aren't supper 
fast though, especially on the upload. It's okay if they're a lower 
usage customer.


Jon

On 9/10/2010 6:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this 
equipment?


With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS 
reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75.  I have seen 
another WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients 
are at -80 to -95.  Are signals using this equipment that usable at 
those rates?  Can anyone shed some light on this really old gear?  Any 
information is appreciated...


Regards,

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Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

[Greg Ihnen]

Thanks. The only clients to the AP are laptops. Would the WDS setting do 
anything then?

Greg

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

> Run the AP and SM in WDS mode.
> 
> the radios do some funny things with ARP with it off.
> 
> - Jerry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:44 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness
> 
> I posted this to the UBNT list and haven't gotten a hit yet.
> 
> I have an NS2L serving as an AP plugged into a MT 750. It's acting strangely 
> (wireless clients stay connected but periodically lose connectivity so I 
> started looking around. In the ARP table I found this:
> 
> 
> IP Address  MAC address  Interface   
> 192.168.7.200:25:00:49:E5:6B  BRIDGE
> 24.56.178.140 00:00:00:00:00:00  BRIDGE
> 
> 
> The network is 192.168.7.0/24. The MT doesn't show the 24.56.178.140 address, 
> nor does any of the other equipment on the network. A reboot doesn't clear 
> the 24.56.178.140 address from the arp table. The MT's connections list 
> doesn't show 24.56.178.140.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas?
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Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

[Jerry Richardson]

Run the AP and SM in WDS mode.

the radios do some funny things with ARP with it off.

- Jerry

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

I posted this to the UBNT list and haven't gotten a hit yet.

I have an NS2L serving as an AP plugged into a MT 750. It's acting strangely 
(wireless clients stay connected but periodically lose connectivity so I 
started looking around. In the ARP table I found this:


IP Address  MAC address  Interface   
192.168.7.200:25:00:49:E5:6B  BRIDGE
24.56.178.140 00:00:00:00:00:00  BRIDGE


The network is 192.168.7.0/24. The MT doesn't show the 24.56.178.140 address, 
nor does any of the other equipment on the network. A reboot doesn't clear the 
24.56.178.140 address from the arp table. The MT's connections list doesn't 
show 24.56.178.140.

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Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?

[Kevin Owen]

Thanks for link.  I should be able to find something there.

Kevin


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 6:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?

What about a flag pole?
http://www.flagpolewarehouse.com/flagpoles/commercial/index.shtml
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Kevin Owen 
mailto:ko...@fsr.com>> wrote:
Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct bury 
steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc?  I have a 
need for a client to be up ~30' for a single 1' dish.  That will be the only 
thing ever on the pole, so it won't be loaded.  It can't be guyed, and they 
would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics.  We have been 
asked to use something like a streetlight pole.  We have never used such a 
pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole?

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Re: [WISPA] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] TV Whitespaces Support Letter Template

[Mike Hammett]

 Low coast antennas?  Must be a new style.

If you are affiliated with any ARRA projects, be sure to mention the 
need for the spectrum to fully realize the potential.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 9/11/2010 9:54 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:


All WISPs,

This week, WISPA filed comments on the TV Whitespaces once again.  The 
FCC is set to make decisions on this crucial topic very soon.  It is 
imperative for all operators to take a few minutes and file individual 
comments to the FCC about Unlicensed use of the TV Whitespaces 
spectrum this week.  Please don't procrastinate as the timeline is 
fairly short.


I have attached a template support letter that Jack Unger has written 
to make your support and comment filing easier.  Jack, Steve Coran and 
the FCC committee has worked hard for several years and especially in 
our recent filing.  We need to support their hard work efforts and 
produce a mass support campaign to give the WISPA filing even more 
credibility.  WISPs need more spectrum and we need spectrum that will 
penetrate foliage and other obstacles.  This is our opportunity and 
essentially our obligation to stand up for our needs before this 
crucial decision is made.  The WISPA filing can be read at 
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7020911589.


Please customize the attached template letter with your company 
information and if you want to add additional "local" flavor, it is 
accepted.  The FCC staff will read each letter and register the 
support for the WISPA filing to assist them in making this tough 
decision.  We have received excellent comments back from the FCC, 
other trade associations and manufacturers about this filing and now 
our membership and industry participants need to stand up and be 
counted as well.


Once you have customized the letter, please make a .pdf copy or a .doc 
file and upload it at the following website. 
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc.  If you choose 
not to use the WISPA template letter but want to write your own 
comments, you can either follow the previous procedure or use the 
Express filing method at 
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=nc5cd.  The proceeding 
number is 04-186.


I cannot stress how important this is for each WISP company to do.  I 
hope to search the filings Monday morning and find 1000 or more new 
comments supporting the WISPA filing.  Take a the time this weekend 
and "git r dun" before your busy work schedule begins again Monday 
morning.


Respectfully,

*Rick Harnish*

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

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[WISPA] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] TV Whitespaces Support Letter Template

[Rick Harnish]

All WISPs,

 

This week, WISPA filed comments on the TV Whitespaces once again.  The FCC
is set to make decisions on this crucial topic very soon.  It is imperative
for all operators to take a few minutes and file individual comments to the
FCC about Unlicensed use of the TV Whitespaces spectrum this week.  Please
don't procrastinate as the timeline is fairly short.

 

I have attached a template support letter that Jack Unger has written to
make your support and comment filing easier.  Jack, Steve Coran and the FCC
committee has worked hard for several years and especially in our recent
filing.  We need to support their hard work efforts and produce a mass
support campaign to give the WISPA filing even more credibility.  WISPs need
more spectrum and we need spectrum that will penetrate foliage and other
obstacles.  This is our opportunity and essentially our obligation to stand
up for our needs before this crucial decision is made.  The WISPA filing can
be read at  
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7020911589.  

 

Please customize the attached template letter with your company information
and if you want to add additional "local" flavor, it is accepted.  The FCC
staff will read each letter and register the support for the WISPA filing to
assist them in making this tough decision.  We have received excellent
comments back from the FCC, other trade associations and manufacturers about
this filing and now our membership and industry participants need to stand
up and be counted as well.

 

Once you have customized the letter, please make a .pdf copy or a .doc file
and upload it at the following website.
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc.  If you choose not to
use the WISPA template letter but want to write your own comments, you can
either follow the previous procedure or use the Express filing method at
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=nc5cd.  The proceeding number
is 04-186.

 

I cannot stress how important this is for each WISP company to do.  I hope
to search the filings Monday morning and find 1000 or more new comments
supporting the WISPA filing.  Take a the time this weekend and "git r dun"
before your busy work schedule begins again Monday morning.

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

rharn...@wispa.org

 



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Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

[Matt Jenkins]

After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub 
$20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all.

On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
> Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 
> switches...
> You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to
> RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or
> greater you aren't going to find that.
>
> The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You
> should be able to get it for $30-50K.
>
> Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been
> known to do.
> Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at
> the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route
> reflector to the customer and vice versa.
> Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border
> router/route reflector.
>
> Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like
> the most straightforward solution to me.
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkins  
> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T ports
>> with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any
>> suggestions?
>>
>> For those who wonder why I am upgrading all of my backhauls to
>> support ~300mbps. In addition I need to be able to offer BGP connections
>> to customers from this ring of backhauls.
>>
>> - Matt
>>
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