[WISPA] New employee quiz

[Andy Trimmell]

I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz
they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it
from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire
someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people
for the job. 

 

Anyone know?

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211

 

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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Andy Trimmell]

I sent you offlist because of the abundance of negative comments I have
about them. 

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Behalf Of Chris Gotstein
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] SBA Towers

Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP 
friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Chuck Hogg]

I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein  wrote:

> Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
> friendly?  Any estimates on costs?
>
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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Andy Trimmell]

Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth
for 2 omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's
worth it.


Regards,
Chuck



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wrote:

Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

[Josh Luthman]

Jay maybe?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, "Andy Trimmell"  wrote:

> I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz
> they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it
> from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire
> someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people for
> the job. 
>
> ** **
>
> Anyone know?
>
> ** **
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
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[WISPA] PPPoE and home router question

[Phil Curnutt]

We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are
having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and reconnecting.
 Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router that works best on
your wireless network?

Phil
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[WISPA] tower height near airport

[Jay DeBoer]

I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the 
path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site 
clearance.  The problem is the road right next to them (road is about 
200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends 
into a grass run-way for the airport (small town).  and its also prettly 
close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000 
yards away.  I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and 
all the wonderful paperwork that way.  I don't think zoning will be an 
issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the 
airport.

-- 
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Chief Engineer
Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
100 N Roland St, Suite B
McBain, MI 49657

Office: 231-825-2500
Direct: 231-908-0033
Fax: 231-908-0039
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Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question

[DJ Anderson]

We are using Linksys e1000s and WRT54GS2’s without any trouble.



Make sure you have the keep alive going in the router when you setup the
PPPOE connection, I have seen that cause problems in the past.



DJ Anderson

Shelby Broadband

888-364-4232



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Phil Curnutt
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:45 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question



We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are
having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and reconnecting.
 Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router that works best on
your wireless network?



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Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport

[Daniel White]

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/towairSearch.jsp

Daniel White
(303) 746-3590


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jay DeBoer
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:38 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] tower height near airport

I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the
path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site
clearance.  The problem is the road right next to them (road is about
200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends into
a grass run-way for the airport (small town).  and its also prettly close to
perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000 yards away.
I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and all the wonderful
paperwork that way.  I don't think zoning will be an issue but I'm more
concerned about the tower height in relation to the airport.

--
Jay DeBoer

Chief Engineer
Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
100 N Roland St, Suite B
McBain, MI 49657

Office: 231-825-2500
Direct: 231-908-0033
Fax: 231-908-0039
jdeb...@summitdigital.us

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Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport

[Blake Bowers]

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/towairSearch.jsp

will give you a quick read on the need for an FAA.

http://wireless.fcc.gov/outreach/index.htm?job=tower_notification

will get you started on a NEPA and SHPA - but using it is voluntary.  The 
NEPA and SHPA I would not build a new tower without having done.

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/portal.jsp

Will allow you file online (at no cost) for your FAA.  Personally, it only 
takes 10 minutes to do the FAA, I would do it just to be safe.  If you do, 
fill out all the frequencies listed as being in use.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

- Original Message - 
From: "Jay DeBoer" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:37 AM
Subject: [WISPA] tower height near airport


> I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the
> path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site
> clearance.  The problem is the road right next to them (road is about
> 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends
> into a grass run-way for the airport (small town).  and its also prettly
> close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000
> yards away.  I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and
> all the wonderful paperwork that way.  I don't think zoning will be an
> issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the
> airport.
>
> -- 
> Jay DeBoer
>
> Chief Engineer
> Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
> 100 N Roland St, Suite B
> McBain, MI 49657
>
> Office: 231-825-2500
> Direct: 231-908-0033
> Fax: 231-908-0039
> jdeb...@summitdigital.us
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Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question

[Josh Luthman]

Are you sure the problem is the router and not the connection between
the PPPOE server and the tower?

Take a customer router and plug it in to the server as close (network
wise) as you can to confirm.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Phil Curnutt  wrote:
> We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are
> having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and reconnecting.
>  Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router that works best on
> your wireless network?
>
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Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question

[Paolo Di Francesco]

using pppoe in production since years (mikrotik/airos) no problem if 
well configured

One issue we had some years ago with airos but the bug is gone in the 
last versions

are you sure it's a pppoe issue and not something else, like link or 
other things?

Regards
Paolo

> We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are
> having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and
> reconnecting.  Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router
> that works best on your wireless network?
>
> Phil
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Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport

[Scott Reed]

I can not remember if it is on the FCC or FAA website, but there is a 
tool that will get you started.  It will tell you whether you can put a 
tower there an dhow high.

On 2/28/2012 9:37 AM, Jay DeBoer wrote:
> I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the
> path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site
> clearance.  The problem is the road right next to them (road is about
> 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends
> into a grass run-way for the airport (small town).  and its also prettly
> close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000
> yards away.  I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and
> all the wonderful paperwork that way.  I don't think zoning will be an
> issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the
> airport.
>

-- 
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Owner
NewWays Networking, LLC
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration



Mikrotik Advanced Certified

www.nwwnet.net
(765) 855-1060
(765) 439-4253
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Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question

[Phil Curnutt]

There are a number of issues, this being one.  We are updating APs and
Backhaul at the same time, but this particular problem is on an updated
link and presaged the upgrade.  Plus the member I am working with is jacked
into the Backhaul and is only one hop from the pppoe server.

Phil



On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, Paolo Di Francesco <
paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:
> using pppoe in production since years (mikrotik/airos) no problem if well
configured
>
> One issue we had some years ago with airos but the bug is gone in the
last versions
>
> are you sure it's a pppoe issue and not something else, like link or
other things?
>
> Regards
> Paolo
>
>> We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are
>> having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and
>> reconnecting.  Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router
>> that works best on your wireless network?
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
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>
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>
> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
>
> Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
>
> Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
>
> C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
> Fax : +39-091-8772072
> assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
> web: http://www.level7.it
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport

[Cameron Crum]

There is a consultant out there, Ken Patterson ( http://airspace-ken.com/ )
 that I utilized back when I worked for Sprint and several consulting
companies. I think his fee to perform a full blown air space safety
analysis on a proposed new tower is like $350 and probably worth every
penny. The last thing you want is to have an improper filing and then cause
some kind of air space accident because your tower is not marked or lit
properly, or you missed something in the filing. That could ruin lives
including your own.

Cameron

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Blake Bowers  wrote:

> http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/towairSearch.jsp
>
> will give you a quick read on the need for an FAA.
>
> http://wireless.fcc.gov/outreach/index.htm?job=tower_notification
>
> will get you started on a NEPA and SHPA - but using it is voluntary.  The
> NEPA and SHPA I would not build a new tower without having done.
>
> https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/portal.jsp
>
> Will allow you file online (at no cost) for your FAA.  Personally, it only
> takes 10 minutes to do the FAA, I would do it just to be safe.  If you do,
> fill out all the frequencies listed as being in use.
>
>
> Don't take your organs to heaven,
> heaven knows we need them down here!
> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jay DeBoer" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:37 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] tower height near airport
>
>
> > I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the
> > path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site
> > clearance.  The problem is the road right next to them (road is about
> > 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends
> > into a grass run-way for the airport (small town).  and its also prettly
> > close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000
> > yards away.  I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and
> > all the wonderful paperwork that way.  I don't think zoning will be an
> > issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the
> > airport.
> >
> > --
> > Jay DeBoer
> >
> > Chief Engineer
> > Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
> > 100 N Roland St, Suite B
> > McBain, MI 49657
> >
> > Office: 231-825-2500
> > Direct: 231-908-0033
> > Fax: 231-908-0039
> > jdeb...@summitdigital.us
> >
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Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question

[Andy Trimmell]

We use Cisco E1000 E1200 WRT54g. We also found out that WRT110 120 and
300 320 do not pass traffic through PPPoE no matter what you do. We're
also using a Microsoft network if that question was to come up.

 

I've also found out that Belkin's are horrible for staying connected and
Netgears by default are dial on demand instead of Keep Alive.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Phil Curnutt
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:45 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question

 

We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are
having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and
reconnecting.  Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router
that works best on your wireless network?

 

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Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

[Andy Trimmell]

I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what
kind of questions people would go with.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

 

Jay maybe?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, "Andy Trimmell" 
wrote:

I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz
they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it
from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire
someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people
for the job. 

 

Anyone know?

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211  

 


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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Gino Villarini]

Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 
45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different?

Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down 
since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.

Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product 
that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.

Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Jeromie Reeves]

Yup, Its been 10 years since I used it in my wisp. When the next line
came out it did no better then Atheros based radios in my environment
and cost 5x as much to deploy. I do not have a business rich
environment, and even if I did, they do not like $500 installs and
$100/mo. This makes my primary target residential users. Ubnt delivers
now, just not in 5.4-5.7 and I have pressure
to expand as well as have room to move around a competitor who has 5.4
links now but wants to replace them with 5.8. There is no (or very
little) 5.8 room due to how and where both of our towers sit.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new 
> ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
> installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something 
> different?
>
> Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came 
> down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.
>
> Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
> experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product 
> that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
> This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.
>
> Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport

[lakel...@gbcx.net]

Just follow the links provided by Blake.  Real simple.  The FAA will give you a 
determination and you can build as required.  You don't really need a 
third.party. things are pretty straight forward 


Bob

- Reply message -
From: "Blake Bowers" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: [WISPA] tower height near  airport
Date: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 9:52 am


http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/towairSearch.jsp

will give you a quick read on the need for an FAA.

http://wireless.fcc.gov/outreach/index.htm?job=tower_notification

will get you started on a NEPA and SHPA - but using it is voluntary.  The 
NEPA and SHPA I would not build a new tower without having done.

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/portal.jsp

Will allow you file online (at no cost) for your FAA.  Personally, it only 
takes 10 minutes to do the FAA, I would do it just to be safe.  If you do, 
fill out all the frequencies listed as being in use.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

- Original Message - 
From: "Jay DeBoer" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:37 AM
Subject: [WISPA] tower height near airport


> I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the
> path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site
> clearance.  The problem is the road right next to them (road is about
> 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends
> into a grass run-way for the airport (small town).  and its also prettly
> close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000
> yards away.  I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and
> all the wonderful paperwork that way.  I don't think zoning will be an
> issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the
> airport.
>
> -- 
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>
> Chief Engineer
> Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
> 100 N Roland St, Suite B
> McBain, MI 49657
>
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> Direct: 231-908-0033
> Fax: 231-908-0039
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Freylekhman, Alex]

Gino,
In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there 
is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. 



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Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 
45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different?

Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down 
since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.

Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product 
that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.

Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Gino Villarini]

Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF 
on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be 
available at the AP...

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Freylekhman, Alex
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Gino,
In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there 
is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. 



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 
45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different?

Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down 
since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.

Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product 
that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.

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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Gino Villarini]

And low latency to boot!!!

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF 
on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be 
available at the AP...

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Freylekhman, Alex
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Gino,
In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there 
is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. 



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 
45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different?

Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down 
since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.

Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product 
that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.

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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Freylekhman, Alex]

LOL .. the low latency is true, can't argue here. WiMAX does carry a latency of 
~3-4 times the frame duration. However, MIMO is not WiMAX specific.  It's about 
spatial multiplexing and diversity coding, the concept is pretty much the same 
between WiFi, WiMAX, LTE or proprietary 



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Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

And low latency to boot!!!

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF 
on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be 
available at the AP...

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Freylekhman, Alex
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Gino,
In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there 
is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. 



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 
45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different?

Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down 
since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.

Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product 
that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.

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[WISPA] ISP America

[Jim Patient]

We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday
3/27.  There are 2 open seats.  If you're coming in early for the show
and want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list.  

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Josh Luthman]

The 90 mbps is all OFDM MIMO Cambium mode.

I think moto-mode sounds better myself.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> And low latency to boot!!!
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:59 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary 
> RF on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be 
> available at the AP...
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Freylekhman, Alex
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> Gino,
> In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, 
> there is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity.
>
>
>
> Aleksander Freylekhman
> Sales Director, North America
> Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
> a Moseley Company
>  p: (804) 864-4125
>  m: (440) 220-2192
> afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
> www.axxcelera.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new 
> ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
> installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something 
> different?
>
> Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came 
> down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.
>
> Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
> experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product 
> that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
> This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.
>
> Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Chuck Hogg]

Before and After.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

> Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
> ** **
>
> I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
> right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
> omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.
> 
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> 
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein  wrote:
> 
>
> Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
> friendly?  Any estimates on costs?
>
> --
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Gino Villarini]

Well, they have the Secret Sauce... but I cant tell you! You're from the Dark 
Side! Lol!

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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Of Freylekhman, Alex
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

LOL .. the low latency is true, can't argue here. WiMAX does carry a latency of 
~3-4 times the frame duration. However, MIMO is not WiMAX specific.  It's about 
spatial multiplexing and diversity coding, the concept is pretty much the same 
between WiFi, WiMAX, LTE or proprietary 



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Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



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From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

And low latency to boot!!!

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF 
on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be 
available at the AP...

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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Of Freylekhman, Alex
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Gino,
In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there 
is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. 



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



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From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 
45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different?

Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down 
since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.

Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product 
that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.

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Re: [WISPA] ISP America

[Jim Patient]

The seats are filled.  

 

Jim

 

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Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] ISP America

 

We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday
3/27.  There are 2 open seats.  If you're coming in early for the show
and want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list.  

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] ISP America

[Chuck Hogg]

As in the 2 of us included or we're out?

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:

> The seats are filled.  
>
> ** **
>
> Jim
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Jim Patient
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
> *Subject:* [WISPA] ISP America
>
> ** **
>
> We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday
> 3/27.  There are 2 open seats.  If you’re coming in early for the show and
> want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list.  
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Jim Patient
>
> Link Technologies, Inc.
>
> 314-735-0270 x102
>
> http://mywificoverage.com
>
> http://www.linktechs.net 
>
> 
>
> ** **
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Freylekhman, Alex]

Story of my life .. haha




Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Well, they have the Secret Sauce... but I cant tell you! You're from the Dark 
Side! Lol!

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Freylekhman, Alex
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

LOL .. the low latency is true, can't argue here. WiMAX does carry a latency of 
~3-4 times the frame duration. However, MIMO is not WiMAX specific.  It's about 
spatial multiplexing and diversity coding, the concept is pretty much the same 
between WiFi, WiMAX, LTE or proprietary 



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

And low latency to boot!!!

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF 
on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be 
available at the AP...

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Freylekhman, Alex
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Gino,
In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there 
is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. 



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 
45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different?

Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down 
since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.

Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product 
that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.

Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] ISP America

[Doug Clark]

Chuck, go Bass fishing.  You will really like that!  We did that twice last
time we were down there, it was a blast!
I am not sure that Jim remembers it beings that he might have been in a
state of oblivion.
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Chuck Hogg
Date: 2/28/2012 11:19:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP America
 
As in the 2 of us included or we're out?

Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:

The seats are filled.  
 
Jim
 
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] ISP America
 
We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday 3/27.
 There are 2 open seats.  If you’re coming in early for the show and want to
go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list.  
 
 
Jim Patient
Link Technologies, Inc.
314-735-0270 x102
http://mywificoverage.com
http://www.linktechs.net 

 



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Re: [WISPA] ISP America

[Chuck Hogg]

Bass fishing is fun, I can do that around here though... Offshore fishing
is something I have not yet done.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Doug Clark  wrote:

> Chuck, go Bass fishing.  You will really like that!  We did that
> twice last time we were down there, it was a blast!
> I am not sure that Jim remembers it beings that he might have been in a
> state of oblivion.
>
>
>
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
>  *From:* Chuck Hogg 
> *Date:* 2/28/2012 11:19:18 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ISP America
>
> As in the 2 of us included or we're out?
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient wrote:
>
> The seats are filled.  
>
> ** **
>
> Jim
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Jim Patient
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
> *Subject:* [WISPA] ISP America
>
> ** **
>
> We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday
> 3/27.  There are 2 open seats.  If you’re coming in early for the show and
> want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list.  
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Jim Patient
>
> Link Technologies, Inc.
>
> 314-735-0270 x102
>
> http://mywificoverage.com
>
> http://www.linktechs.net 
>
> 
>
> ** **
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Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: ISP America

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

They throw 5 pounders back on Lake Okeechobee...
 

Regards,

Jeff
ImageStream Sales Manager
800-813-5123 x106


 

  _  

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [WISPA] ISP America


Bass fishing is fun, I can do that around here though... Offshore fishing is
something I have not yet done. 

Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Doug Clark  wrote:



Chuck, go Bass fishing.  You will really like that!  We did that twice last
time we were down there, it was a blast!
I am not sure that Jim remembers it beings that he might have been in a
state of oblivion.
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Chuck Hogg  
Date: 2/28/2012 11:19:18 AM
To: WISPA General   List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP America
 
As in the 2 of us included or we're out? 

Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:


The seats are filled.  

 

Jim

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] ISP America

 

We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday 3/27.
There are 2 open seats.  If you're coming in early for the show and want to
go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list.  

 

 

Jim Patient

Link Technologies, Inc.

314-735-0270 x102  

http://mywificoverage.com  

http://www.linktechs.net   



 

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Re: [WISPA] ISP America

[Jim Patient]

Easy Doug,  don't throw stones from your glass house.  I remember an
oblivion epidemic J

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP America

 

Bass fishing is fun, I can do that around here though... Offshore
fishing is something I have not yet done.


Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Doug Clark  wrote:

Chuck, go Bass fishing.  You will really like that!  We did that twice
last time we were down there, it was a blast!

I am not sure that Jim remembers it beings that he might have been in a
state of oblivion. 

 

 

 

 

---Original Message---

 

From: Chuck Hogg  

Date: 2/28/2012 11:19:18 AM

To: WISPA General List  

Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP America

 

As in the 2 of us included or we're out? 


Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient 
wrote:

The seats are filled.  

 

Jim

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] ISP America

 

We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday
3/27.  There are 2 open seats.  If you're coming in early for the show
and want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list.  

 

 

Jim Patient

Link Technologies, Inc.

314-735-0270 x102  

http://mywificoverage.com  

http://www.linktechs.net   

 

 



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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Andy Trimmell]

We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our
rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

Before and After.


Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth
for 2 omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's
worth it.


Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:

Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

[Simon Westlake]

Are you looking for networking stuff, wireless stuff or both?

I wrote one a while back that was mostly things like 'What is a subnet 
mask' or 'What's the difference between an IP address and a MAC address?'


A lot of the time people would get them wrong (depending on skill level) 
but you could generally pick out the people who had a clue/had some 
ability by their thought process in trying to figure it out if they 
didn't know.


On 2/28/2012 9:46 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:


I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what 
kind of questions people would go with.


*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman

*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

Jay maybe?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, "Andy Trimmell" > wrote:


I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz 
they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got 
it from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to 
hire someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless 
people for the job.


Anyone know?

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com 

317.831.3000 ext 211 


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Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

[Josh Luthman]

Ooo care to share???

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Simon Westlake  wrote:
> Are you looking for networking stuff, wireless stuff or both?
>
> I wrote one a while back that was mostly things like 'What is a subnet mask'
> or 'What's the difference between an IP address and a MAC address?'
>
> A lot of the time people would get them wrong (depending on skill level) but
> you could generally pick out the people who had a clue/had some ability by
> their thought process in trying to figure it out if they didn't know.
>
>
> On 2/28/2012 9:46 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>
> I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what kind
> of questions people would go with.
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
>
>
>
> Jay maybe?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, "Andy Trimmell"  wrote:
>
> I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz they
> had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it from
> another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire someone
> else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people for the job.
>
>
>
> Anyone know?
>
>
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Chuck Hogg]

I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

> We’ve had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent
> every time we want to renegotiate equipment.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
> ** **
>
> Before and After.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> 
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell 
> wrote:
>
> Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
>  
>
> I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
> right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
> omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.
> 
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein  wrote:
> 
>
> Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
> friendly?  Any estimates on costs?
>
> --
>    
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Tom DeReggi]

Yes, according to FCC rules, DFS2 must be used for new installs.
But, if you have a grandfathered "SITE", you are allowed to repair that site 
with a replacement radio, and accordingly its legal for the manufacturer to 
sell it for that purpose..
(I'd argue manufacturering laws might require keeping replacement parts 
available).

As far as installing new CPE locations on pre-existing 5830 sectors? 
According to the rules its not allowed.
But then again, how would anyone know what was pre-existing? The secondary 
market for legacy 5.3gear is still alive and well, because of that factor..

The reality is that no one cares, because the problem will naturally fix 
itself with time, and FCC has better things to do than harrass people for no 
reason.
The fact is... putting up legacy 5.3G isn't going to hurt or interfere with 
anyone, if in small scale, and not worth anyone's time to determine what was 
or wasn't pre-existing, if no harm is being done. At the same time,  no 
manufacturer is going to continue making new batches of product that has 
become obsolete.  No US WISP is going to standardize on a legacy products 
anymore in large scale. The world is migrating to requiring faster speeds. 
The ROI for newly putting up old obsolete sectors, is not high.  Most WISPs 
are going to want to put up "new" sites/sectors with gear that has some 
growth potential, and meet's today's broadband demands, to maximize their 
ROI.

My point is, there really isn't a "long term" problem here.  Allthough, in 
the short term, there may be some frustrating choices to make.
All I know is, I'm gonna keep trying to get as much life out of my 5830s as 
long as I can, because they simply work headache free.
(although admittedly, its getting harder where there is signficant colo 
costs, due to the lower CPE/AP ratiothat the market now requires)

The good thing about the 5830, is that it is a "legally certified" radio of 
its day, so if operating at a grandfathered site for 5.3G, its got a sticker 
that says its legal..

Tom DeReggi
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jeromie Reeves" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear


>A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do
> /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying
> something different?
>
> Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has
> came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.
>
> Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone
> with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just
> buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
> This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.
>
> Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Tom DeReggi]

No question that Canopy stayed in the PtMP game longer, to go beyond the 
10mb barrier, with advantage line and OFDM..

But to keep it real  At a typical Trango Link Budget / Max distance, 
inserting a legacy Canopy w/ its inferior small antenna size and weaker link 
budget, Canopy would be lucky to get 5mbps, if it could even associate in 
our noise floor.  How quickly its forgotten, the Canopy 8db AP integ 
antenna, and Trango's 14db-18db AP integ antenna, gaining Trango the winning 
link budget, even after considering the C/I.  It brings back memories of the 
past.. The every day, CAnopy versus Trango thread :-)


Tom DeReggi
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IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Jeromie Reeves" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear


> Yup, Its been 10 years since I used it in my wisp. When the next line
> came out it did no better then Atheros based radios in my environment
> and cost 5x as much to deploy. I do not have a business rich
> environment, and even if I did, they do not like $500 installs and
> $100/mo. This makes my primary target residential users. Ubnt delivers
> now, just not in 5.4-5.7 and I have pressure
> to expand as well as have room to move around a competitor who has 5.4
> links now but wants to replace them with 5.8. There is no (or very
> little) 5.8 room due to how and where both of our towers sit.
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Gino Villarini  
> wrote:
>> Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, 
>> new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>>
>> A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
>> installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something 
>> different?
>>
>> Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came 
>> down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.
>>
>> Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
>> experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap 
>> product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
>> This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.
>>
>> Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Andy Trimmell]

Whose your rep? I'm dealing with McNamara. 

 

I forgot too the $2500 engineering study Im required to pay to add
anything.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100.


Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our
rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

Before and After.


Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth
for 2 omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's
worth it.


Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:

Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Tom DeReggi]

We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was 
a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives..
(But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO)

Axxelera Rep,

Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric 
A and B?

When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz 
channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz 
trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy)

What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products?

Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like 
the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Freylekhman, Alex" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear


> Gino,
> In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, 
> there is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity.
>
>
>
> Aleksander Freylekhman
> Sales Director, North America
> Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
> a Moseley Company
>  p: (804) 864-4125
>  m: (440) 220-2192
> afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
> www.axxcelera.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new 
> ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
> installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something 
> different?
>
> Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came 
> down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.
>
> Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
> experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap 
> product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
> This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.
>
> Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Chuck Hogg]

Oshatz.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

> Whose your rep? I’m dealing with McNamara. 
>
> ** **
>
> I forgot too the $2500 engineering study Im required to pay to add
> anything.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:22 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
> ** **
>
> I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> 
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell 
> wrote:
>
> We’ve had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent
> every time we want to renegotiate equipment.
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM
>
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
>  
>
> Before and After.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell 
> wrote:
>
> Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
>  
>
> I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
> right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
> omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.
> 
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein  wrote:
> 
>
> Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
> friendly?  Any estimates on costs?
>
> --
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Gino Villarini]

A more reasonable comparison would be a trango unit vs a Canopy with Lens or 
Stinger

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

No question that Canopy stayed in the PtMP game longer, to go beyond the 10mb 
barrier, with advantage line and OFDM..

But to keep it real  At a typical Trango Link Budget / Max distance, 
inserting a legacy Canopy w/ its inferior small antenna size and weaker link 
budget, Canopy would be lucky to get 5mbps, if it could even associate in our 
noise floor.  How quickly its forgotten, the Canopy 8db AP integ antenna, and 
Trango's 14db-18db AP integ antenna, gaining Trango the winning link budget, 
even after considering the C/I.  It brings back memories of the past.. The 
every day, CAnopy versus Trango thread :-)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: "Jeromie Reeves" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear


> Yup, Its been 10 years since I used it in my wisp. When the next line
> came out it did no better then Atheros based radios in my environment
> and cost 5x as much to deploy. I do not have a business rich
> environment, and even if I did, they do not like $500 installs and
> $100/mo. This makes my primary target residential users. Ubnt delivers
> now, just not in 5.4-5.7 and I have pressure
> to expand as well as have room to move around a competitor who has 5.4
> links now but wants to replace them with 5.8. There is no (or very
> little) 5.8 room due to how and where both of our towers sit.
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Gino Villarini  
> wrote:
>> Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, 
>> new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>>
>> A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ 
>> installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something 
>> different?
>>
>> Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came 
>> down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.
>>
>> Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
>> experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap 
>> product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
>> This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.
>>
>> Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Andy Trimmell]

Exactly!

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

Oshatz.


Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

Whose your rep? I'm dealing with McNamara. 

 

I forgot too the $2500 engineering study Im required to pay to add
anything.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:22 PM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100.


Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our
rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

Before and After.


Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth
for 2 omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's
worth it.


Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:

Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport

[Brian Webster]

www.airspaceusa.com is another good consulting firm that can do a study for
around $200. If this is listed as an FAA public airport definitely do a
study. If it is not in their database as a public strip but rather a private
one, you do not have to file. You can certainly do a quick check on the FCC
site tool but that is going to be conservative. Depending on how you file
with the FAA and any surveyor certifications, the FAA office conducting the
study will add up to an additional 50ft height margin of error to see if it
violates any airspace approach patterns for that strip or any others nearby.
If you submit a 2C certification letter they still add 20ft height, a 1A
certification letter only adds 3ft height margin of error by the FAA office.
For a site that close to an affected strip, that extra 47 feet of allowable
height can make a big difference. These are reasons why it's good to pay a
consultant to advise you on these points.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport

 

There is a consultant out there, Ken Patterson ( http://airspace-ken.com/ )
that I utilized back when I worked for Sprint and several consulting
companies. I think his fee to perform a full blown air space safety analysis
on a proposed new tower is like $350 and probably worth every penny. The
last thing you want is to have an improper filing and then cause some kind
of air space accident because your tower is not marked or lit properly, or
you missed something in the filing. That could ruin lives including your
own.

 

Cameron

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Blake Bowers  wrote:

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/towairSearch.jsp

will give you a quick read on the need for an FAA.

http://wireless.fcc.gov/outreach/index.htm?job=tower_notification

will get you started on a NEPA and SHPA - but using it is voluntary.  The
NEPA and SHPA I would not build a new tower without having done.

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/portal.jsp

Will allow you file online (at no cost) for your FAA.  Personally, it only
takes 10 minutes to do the FAA, I would do it just to be safe.  If you do,
fill out all the frequencies listed as being in use.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.


- Original Message -
From: "Jay DeBoer" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:37 AM
Subject: [WISPA] tower height near airport



> I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the
> path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site
> clearance.  The problem is the road right next to them (road is about
> 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends
> into a grass run-way for the airport (small town).  and its also prettly
> close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000
> yards away.  I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and
> all the wonderful paperwork that way.  I don't think zoning will be an
> issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the
> airport.
>
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>
> Chief Engineer
> Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
> 100 N Roland St, Suite B
> McBain, MI 49657
>
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Brad Belton]

" The every day, CAnopy versus Trango thread :-) "

First it was the Proxim vs. Sunstream (aka Trango)  threads with Allen M.

Winner = Sunstream (aka Trango)


Second it was Alvarion vs. Trango threads with Patrick L.

Winner = Trango


Third it was Canopy vs. Trango threads.I forget the huge Canopy
proponent.

Winner =   Trango was a better product, but Canopy PtMP is
still here!


I'm just glad Trango finally listened to some of their clients and moved
away from the "cheaper is better/race to the bottom" product and moved into
the licensed arena!  Now Trango needs to stop trying to compete with
RadioWaves and focus on continuing to build better/faster licensed radios.


We too still have many Trango radios in the air plugging along very nicely.
We only recently pulled the last of the Sunstream radios offline.  I think a
couple of those have earned a home in our little hardware archive collection
and be spared from the landfill.   Lol


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

No question that Canopy stayed in the PtMP game longer, to go beyond the
10mb barrier, with advantage line and OFDM..

But to keep it real  At a typical Trango Link Budget / Max distance,
inserting a legacy Canopy w/ its inferior small antenna size and weaker link
budget, Canopy would be lucky to get 5mbps, if it could even associate in
our noise floor.  How quickly its forgotten, the Canopy 8db AP integ
antenna, and Trango's 14db-18db AP integ antenna, gaining Trango the winning
link budget, even after considering the C/I.  It brings back memories of the
past.. The every day, CAnopy versus Trango thread :-)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: "Jeromie Reeves" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear


> Yup, Its been 10 years since I used it in my wisp. When the next line
> came out it did no better then Atheros based radios in my environment
> and cost 5x as much to deploy. I do not have a business rich
> environment, and even if I did, they do not like $500 installs and
> $100/mo. This makes my primary target residential users. Ubnt delivers
> now, just not in 5.4-5.7 and I have pressure
> to expand as well as have room to move around a competitor who has 5.4
> links now but wants to replace them with 5.8. There is no (or very
> little) 5.8 room due to how and where both of our towers sit.
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Gino Villarini  
> wrote:
>> Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, 
>> new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>>
>> A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/

>> installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something 
>> different?
>>
>> Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came

>> down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.
>>
>> Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with 
>> experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap 
>> product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
>> This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Freylekhman, Alex]

Tom,
The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap 
feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO. The 
system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get all of 
the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a part of the 
package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where 15MHz yields 
47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do take a slight hit on 
the throughput from 47 to 43mbps.



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  P: (804) 864-4125
  M: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com

From: Tom DeReggi mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was
a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives..
(But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO)

Axxelera Rep,

Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric
A and B?

When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz
channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz
trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy)

What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products?

Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like
the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: "Freylekhman, Alex" 
mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear


Gino,
In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B,
there is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity.



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new
ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/
installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something
different?

Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came
down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.

Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with
experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap
product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.

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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Gino Villarini]

This are air rates our real troughput?

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, "Freylekhman, Alex" 
mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com>> wrote:

Tom,
The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap 
feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO. The 
system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get all of 
the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a part of the 
package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where 15MHz yields 
47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do take a slight hit on 
the throughput from 47 to 43mbps.



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  P: (804) 864-4125
  M: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com

From: Tom DeReggi mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was
a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives..
(But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO)

Axxelera Rep,

Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric
A and B?

When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz
channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz
trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy)

What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products?

Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like
the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: "Freylekhman, Alex" 
mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear


Gino,
In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B,
there is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity.



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new
ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/
installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something
different?

Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came
down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.

Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with
experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap
product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.

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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Freylekhman, Alex]

These are real aggregate throughput numbers based on UDP packets. Since 
equipment is a layer 2 bridge, TCP numbers will be less and will vary as a 
result of framesize and latency. In regards to the over the air rates, to be 
completely honest, I'm not sure what they are since we never talk about them 
nor publish, guess would be ~20% higher



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  P: (804) 864-4125
  M: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com

From: Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:43:11 -0500
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Cc: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

This are air rates our real troughput?

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, "Freylekhman, Alex" 
mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com>> wrote:

Tom,
The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap 
feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO. The 
system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get all of 
the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a part of the 
package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where 15MHz yields 
47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do take a slight hit on 
the throughput from 47 to 43mbps.



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  P: (804) 864-4125
  M: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com

From: Tom DeReggi mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was
a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives..
(But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO)

Axxelera Rep,

Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric
A and B?

When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz
channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz
trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy)

What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products?

Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like
the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: "Freylekhman, Alex" 
mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear


Gino,
In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B,
there is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity.



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new
ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/
installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something
different?

Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came
down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.

Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with
experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap
product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.

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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Josh Luthman]

I think you mean lower?

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 28, 2012 4:59 PM, "Freylekhman, Alex" 
wrote:

> These are real aggregate throughput numbers based on UDP packets. Since
> equipment is a layer 2 bridge, TCP numbers will be less and will vary as a
> result of framesize and latency. In regards to the over the air rates, to
> be completely honest, I'm not sure what they are since we never talk about
> them nor publish, guess would be ~20% higher
>
>
>
> Aleksander Freylekhman
> Sales Director, North America
> Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
> *a Moseley Company*
>   P: (804) 864-4125
>   M: (440) 220-2192
> afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
> www.axxcelera.com
>
> From: Gino Villarini 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:43:11 -0500
> To: WISPA General List 
> Cc: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> This are air rates our real troughput?
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, "Freylekhman, Alex" <
> afreylekh...@axxcelera.com> wrote:
>
> Tom,
> The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap
> feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO.
> The system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get
> all of the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a
> part of the package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where
> 15MHz yields 47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do
> take a slight hit on the throughput from 47 to 43mbps.
>
>
>
> Aleksander Freylekhman
> Sales Director, North America
> Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
> *a Moseley Company*
>   P: (804) 864-4125
>   M: (440) 220-2192
> afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
> www.axxcelera.com
>
> From: Tom DeReggi 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it
> was
> a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives..
> (But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO)
>
> Axxelera Rep,
>
> Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either
> MAtric
> A and B?
>
> When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz
> channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz
> trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy)
>
> What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products?
>
> Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead
> like
> the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit?
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Freylekhman, Alex" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
>
> Gino,
> In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B,
> there is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity.
>
>
>
> Aleksander Freylekhman
> Sales Director, North America
> Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
> a Moseley Company
>   p: (804) 864-4125
>   m: (440) 220-2192
> afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
> www.axxcelera.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com ]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new
> ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/
> installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something
> different?
>
> Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came
> down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days.
>
> Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with
> experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap
> product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready.
> This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear.
>
> Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Freylekhman, Alex]

Usually, over the air includes overhead, as example gross 54mbps would look 
like net 36mbps


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Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  P: (804) 864-4125
  M: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com

From: Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:03:41 -0500
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear


I think you mean lower?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 28, 2012 4:59 PM, "Freylekhman, Alex" 
mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com>> wrote:
These are real aggregate throughput numbers based on UDP packets. Since 
equipment is a layer 2 bridge, TCP numbers will be less and will vary as a 
result of framesize and latency. In regards to the over the air rates, to be 
completely honest, I'm not sure what they are since we never talk about them 
nor publish, guess would be ~20% higher



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  P: (804) 864-4125
  M: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com

From: Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:43:11 -0500
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Cc: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

This are air rates our real troughput?

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, "Freylekhman, Alex" 
mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com>> wrote:

Tom,
The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap 
feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO. The 
system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get all of 
the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a part of the 
package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where 15MHz yields 
47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do take a slight hit on 
the throughput from 47 to 43mbps.



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  P: (804) 864-4125
  M: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com

From: Tom DeReggi mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was
a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives..
(But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO)

Axxelera Rep,

Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric
A and B?

When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz
channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz
trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy)

What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products?

Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like
the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: "Freylekhman, Alex" 
mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear


Gino,
In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B,
there is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity.



Aleksander Freylekhman
Sales Director, North America
Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
a Moseley Company
  p: (804) 864-4125
  m: (440) 220-2192
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
www.axxcelera.com



-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new
ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/
installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something
different?

Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400

Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

[Josh Luthman]

The OTA is 20% higher.  I thought you were talking about TCP.  Misunderstanding.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Freylekhman, Alex
 wrote:
> Usually, over the air includes overhead, as example gross 54mbps would look
> like net 36mbps
>
>
> Aleksander Freylekhman
> Sales Director, North America
> Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
> a Moseley Company
>   P: (804) 864-4125
>   M: (440) 220-2192
> afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
> www.axxcelera.com
>
> From: Josh Luthman 
>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:03:41 -0500
>
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>
> I think you mean lower?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Feb 28, 2012 4:59 PM, "Freylekhman, Alex" 
> wrote:
>>
>> These are real aggregate throughput numbers based on UDP packets. Since
>> equipment is a layer 2 bridge, TCP numbers will be less and will vary as a
>> result of framesize and latency. In regards to the over the air rates, to be
>> completely honest, I'm not sure what they are since we never talk about them
>> nor publish, guess would be ~20% higher
>>
>>
>>
>> Aleksander Freylekhman
>> Sales Director, North America
>> Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
>> a Moseley Company
>>   P: (804) 864-4125
>>   M: (440) 220-2192
>> afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
>> www.axxcelera.com
>>
>> From: Gino Villarini 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:43:11 -0500
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Cc: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>>
>> This are air rates our real troughput?
>>
>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, "Freylekhman, Alex"
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Tom,
>> The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap
>> feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO. The
>> system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get all of
>> the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a part of
>> the package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where 15MHz
>> yields 47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do take a
>> slight hit on the throughput from 47 to 43mbps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Aleksander Freylekhman
>> Sales Director, North America
>> Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
>> a Moseley Company
>>   P: (804) 864-4125
>>   M: (440) 220-2192
>> afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
>> www.axxcelera.com
>>
>> From: Tom DeReggi 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>>
>> We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it
>> was
>> a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives..
>> (But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO)
>>
>> Axxelera Rep,
>>
>> Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either
>> MAtric
>> A and B?
>>
>> When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz
>> channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz
>> trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy)
>>
>> What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products?
>>
>> Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead
>> like
>> the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit?
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Freylekhman, Alex" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>>
>>
>> Gino,
>> In regards to the 90mbps -  2x2  mimo can either be set as matrix A or B,
>> there is a  decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity.
>>
>>
>>
>> Aleksander Freylekhman
>> Sales Director, North America
>> Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
>> a Moseley Company
>>   p: (804) 864-4125
>>   m: (440) 220-2192
>> afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
>> www.axxcelera.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>>
>> Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new
>> ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
>>
>> A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/
>> installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something
>> different?
>>
>> Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4m

Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

[Simon Westlake]

I just dug for it, doesn't look like I kept it, sorry - it's probably 
languishing in a file cabinet in Milwaukee. I wrote it for TWC when I 
worked there since the HR interviews were generally things like 'Why do 
you like sunshine?' and 'What is your favorite color of hair?' so they 
kept hiring people who had 'good' resumes but zero actual knowledge.

The funny thing there was that the kind of resumes I throw in the 
garbage here (skills: Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Adobe Acrobat, 
Notepad, Calculator, Pacman, Windows Start Menu, JPEG, CPU, 
Keyboard/Mouse, etc) got through most of the screening there because 
they could check off 'Knows Microsoft Word, knows Pacman' and pass it on 
as a stellar resume. The guys who wrote things like 'Built a flux 
capacitor out of spare motherboards, constructed a satellite dish out of 
cardboard to watch Iranian TV, write assembly in the bathroom' never 
made it through because they didn't know Microsoft Word.

So, I had to come up with something to screen out the first crowd and 
make sure the second were what they said they were. The stuff I said 
below was the gist of it, it was a mix of specific knowledge (e.g. what 
is a subnet mask) and situation based stuff (I can't remember the harder 
parts but the simpler stuff was things like 'Customer X has a router, we 
are giving them a public IP of 1.2.3.4, he has a web server behind the 
router that is set to 192.168.10.2. He can get to the server inside his 
network if he opens 192.168.10.2 in a web browser but nobody going to 
1.2.3.4 can see the web page. Why?')

If they made it through the first couple of pages, I had a harder sheet 
that I honestly don't remember much of but it was probably a mix to see 
where their skills lay (some routing protocol questions, probably some 
protocol specific/packet capturing type stuff for the troubleshooting 
scenarios, etc) along with some vendor specific stuff (how do you do X 
in a Cisco since we were a 100% Cisco shop). If they didn't make it 
through the first page, I just smiled, said thanks and everyone had an 
easier day.

It worked pretty well apart from the fact that already nervous people 
would often have a meltdown if they flunked the first few questions. It 
was also a good way to know what peoples weak spots were if you did end 
up hiring them (e.g. they failed all the Cisco questions or they knew 
nothing about OSPF) but it was mostly just to get a good baseline on 
whether or not someone could do the job.

Nowadays I end up hiring more based on aptitude, personality and desire 
to learn than anything else, knowledge isn't everything. Granted, if you 
are hiring a programmer, they need a certain level of knowledge but I'd 
rather have someone who has 75% of the knowledge and 150% of the 
attitude than vice versa. Hard thing to pick out a lot of the time 
though. I'm just waiting for someone to invent a robot that can write 
good code. When we hire for Powercode, I normally give people a couple 
of functions to write (e.g. write a recursive function that reverses a 
string and returns it) and see how they come to a conclusion and do some 
design exercises with them (lately we've been doing one based around 
building online card games.) Same kind of idea.. you might have a 
Bachelors in Software Development but if you can't write a recursive 
function to reverse a string, I don't really care.

The TL;DR of this essay is that I hate hiring, it's a pain in the ass.

On 2/28/2012 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Ooo care to share???
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Simon Westlake  wrote:
>> Are you looking for networking stuff, wireless stuff or both?
>>
>> I wrote one a while back that was mostly things like 'What is a subnet mask'
>> or 'What's the difference between an IP address and a MAC address?'
>>
>> A lot of the time people would get them wrong (depending on skill level) but
>> you could generally pick out the people who had a clue/had some ability by
>> their thought process in trying to figure it out if they didn't know.
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/2012 9:46 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>>
>> I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what kind
>> of questions people would go with.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
>>
>>
>>
>> Jay maybe?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, "Andy Trimmell"  wrote:
>>
>> I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz they
>> had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it from
>> another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire someone
>> else and n

Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

[Josh Luthman]

I agree on who to hire, but I don't have the brain to come up with
those questions to weed out the first set!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Simon Westlake  wrote:
> I just dug for it, doesn't look like I kept it, sorry - it's probably
> languishing in a file cabinet in Milwaukee. I wrote it for TWC when I
> worked there since the HR interviews were generally things like 'Why do
> you like sunshine?' and 'What is your favorite color of hair?' so they
> kept hiring people who had 'good' resumes but zero actual knowledge.
>
> The funny thing there was that the kind of resumes I throw in the
> garbage here (skills: Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Adobe Acrobat,
> Notepad, Calculator, Pacman, Windows Start Menu, JPEG, CPU,
> Keyboard/Mouse, etc) got through most of the screening there because
> they could check off 'Knows Microsoft Word, knows Pacman' and pass it on
> as a stellar resume. The guys who wrote things like 'Built a flux
> capacitor out of spare motherboards, constructed a satellite dish out of
> cardboard to watch Iranian TV, write assembly in the bathroom' never
> made it through because they didn't know Microsoft Word.
>
> So, I had to come up with something to screen out the first crowd and
> make sure the second were what they said they were. The stuff I said
> below was the gist of it, it was a mix of specific knowledge (e.g. what
> is a subnet mask) and situation based stuff (I can't remember the harder
> parts but the simpler stuff was things like 'Customer X has a router, we
> are giving them a public IP of 1.2.3.4, he has a web server behind the
> router that is set to 192.168.10.2. He can get to the server inside his
> network if he opens 192.168.10.2 in a web browser but nobody going to
> 1.2.3.4 can see the web page. Why?')
>
> If they made it through the first couple of pages, I had a harder sheet
> that I honestly don't remember much of but it was probably a mix to see
> where their skills lay (some routing protocol questions, probably some
> protocol specific/packet capturing type stuff for the troubleshooting
> scenarios, etc) along with some vendor specific stuff (how do you do X
> in a Cisco since we were a 100% Cisco shop). If they didn't make it
> through the first page, I just smiled, said thanks and everyone had an
> easier day.
>
> It worked pretty well apart from the fact that already nervous people
> would often have a meltdown if they flunked the first few questions. It
> was also a good way to know what peoples weak spots were if you did end
> up hiring them (e.g. they failed all the Cisco questions or they knew
> nothing about OSPF) but it was mostly just to get a good baseline on
> whether or not someone could do the job.
>
> Nowadays I end up hiring more based on aptitude, personality and desire
> to learn than anything else, knowledge isn't everything. Granted, if you
> are hiring a programmer, they need a certain level of knowledge but I'd
> rather have someone who has 75% of the knowledge and 150% of the
> attitude than vice versa. Hard thing to pick out a lot of the time
> though. I'm just waiting for someone to invent a robot that can write
> good code. When we hire for Powercode, I normally give people a couple
> of functions to write (e.g. write a recursive function that reverses a
> string and returns it) and see how they come to a conclusion and do some
> design exercises with them (lately we've been doing one based around
> building online card games.) Same kind of idea.. you might have a
> Bachelors in Software Development but if you can't write a recursive
> function to reverse a string, I don't really care.
>
> The TL;DR of this essay is that I hate hiring, it's a pain in the ass.
>
> On 2/28/2012 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Ooo care to share???
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Simon Westlake  wrote:
>>> Are you looking for networking stuff, wireless stuff or both?
>>>
>>> I wrote one a while back that was mostly things like 'What is a subnet mask'
>>> or 'What's the difference between an IP address and a MAC address?'
>>>
>>> A lot of the time people would get them wrong (depending on skill level) but
>>> you could generally pick out the people who had a clue/had some ability by
>>> their thought process in trying to figure it out if they didn't know.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/28/2012 9:46 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>>>
>>> I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what kind
>>> of questions people would go with.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jay maybe?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>

[WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

[Tim Warnock]

Hi All,

I have a question as to how other operators are handling POE radio links and
high power FM transmitters.

We often see things like a radio will run errors or drop to 10mbps instead
of 100mbps until we find a good position on the tower that its happy with.
Once its happy we never have an issue again.

We've tried earthing, not earthing, STP, UTP. Nothing seems to definitively
solve the issue.

Does anyone have any advice they'd like to share? It would be muchly
appreciated.

Thanks
Tim

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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

[Josh Luthman]

Far as I know it requires fiber and DC power to be reliable.  Haven't seen
any other solutions with many +1s

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 28, 2012 9:54 PM, "Tim Warnock"  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have a question as to how other operators are handling POE radio links
> and
> high power FM transmitters.
>
> We often see things like a radio will run errors or drop to 10mbps instead
> of 100mbps until we find a good position on the tower that its happy with.
> Once its happy we never have an issue again.
>
> We've tried earthing, not earthing, STP, UTP. Nothing seems to definitively
> solve the issue.
>
> Does anyone have any advice they'd like to share? It would be muchly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Tim
>
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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

[Joe Fiero]

Tim,

I have had 100% success by using a good quality shielded cable and following
a strict bonding regiment.  Bonding the antenna, radio, mast and cable to
the tower at the top is imperative, as is the same process at the bottom.
It's also important that the tower be bonded and that the bond is common
with that in the equipment room. Make sure the inside end of the cable is
bonded as well. In other words, there should be no difference in potential
between the ground in the equipment room, the tower or your equipment on the
tower.  You must carry that bonding through to the rack and equipment you
place in the room as well.  Also, be sure to use grounded cable on jumpers.
And the real trick is putting ferrite beads on both ends of the POE cable.

I had a site exhibiting between 50 and 70 percent packet loss between the
topside radio and the router in the room when initially installed.  The
installer never noticed there were two FM stations on the tower ( 55Kw and
30Kw ).  We even swapped radio equipment twice because he insisted there
were no transmitters in close proximity.  Once we "discovered" the FM
stations he did as I described above and we went immediately to 0% packet
loss from the router.

Joe


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tim Warnock
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:15 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

Hi All,

I have a question as to how other operators are handling POE radio links and
high power FM transmitters.

We often see things like a radio will run errors or drop to 10mbps instead
of 100mbps until we find a good position on the tower that its happy with.
Once its happy we never have an issue again.

We've tried earthing, not earthing, STP, UTP. Nothing seems to definitively
solve the issue.

Does anyone have any advice they'd like to share? It would be muchly
appreciated.

Thanks
Tim

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Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

[Simon Westlake]

Well, I think some of the ones I mentioned are alright. It depends if 
you're hiring tech support or a network engineer but for mid-level tech 
support/pseudo engineer type role I'd ask things like:


What is a subnet mask?

If they got that one.. what is a /29 subnet mask?

If I told you a subnet was 192.168.10.0/25, what is the network and 
broadcast IP? Name one usable IP in this range.


Usually lets you know if they understand subnetting. I've had people break 
out pencil and paper and do it binary style - at least they know how but 
lets you know they learned it in a book, they don't do it regularly. Not 
good or bad just useful info.


The NAT/port forwarding one I mentioned earlier I always found useful, lets 
you know how their brain works when troubleshooting. You could probably 
expand this to wireless (you put up an access point, connected user has 4 
bars, next day they have 2 bars, how would you start troubleshooting?)


I always liked the situational ones because anyone can memorize how to 
subnet but what you really want is someone with a good logical brain for 
solving problems.


I used to ask some about ports (e.g. what port does SMTP run on, what 
protocol typically runs on port 110), I'd ask things like 'how do you see 
the status of all OSPF neighbors in a Cisco router', maybe not so important 
if you don't use Cisco gear but you can ask general questions in that case 
(what does cost do in an OSPF, for example.)


How would you identify/troubleshoot a speed/duplex problem on an Ethernet 
interface.. describe how you'd make an Ethernet cable (bonus points if they 
know T-568A and B but who cares, really, it's more about if they know how 
and they can tell you.. double bonus if they end with 'and then I get out 
my tester and make sure the cable is good before I plug it in').. what is 
the difference between single and multimode fiber..


Really, I just used to think about the things I used to have to deal with 
on a daily basis and tried to construct scenarios out of them. If I 
couldn't, I'd just ask a specific question. I will say, the scenario type 
questions are by far the best. Someone who has done their A+ might memorize 
a bunch of data but they can't always put it into practice. So, I'd just 
lay out 10 problems you've had to solve or try to brainstorm a few and 
write them down from simplest to hardest. If they can't answer the first 
2-3, you're probably done. The NAT one was a good opener (web server on 
private IP, why can't external access it, etc), I'd do some stuff like 
computer X is plugged into a switch with an IP of 192.168.10.5, subnet mask 
255.255.255.128, why can't he ping 192.168.10.253 255.255.255.128?


Throw a bunch of questions in the middle like 'what's your favorite Android 
'phone' or 'what video game did you last play' to keep them loose and not 
too stressed out.


I used to have to do this a lot and I ended up winging it at the end a lot 
of the time. Once you've done 20-30 interviews, you can figure out 
someone's technical ability pretty quickly. The hard part is figuring out 
if they are going to be a giant pain in the ass in 3 months.



From: "Josh Luthman" 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:18 PM

To: "WISPA General List" 

Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz


I agree on who to hire, but I don't have the brain to come up with

those questions to weed out the first set!


Josh Luthman

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On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Simon Westlake  
wrote:

> I just dug for it, doesn't look like I kept it, sorry - it's probably

> languishing in a file cabinet in Milwaukee. I wrote it for TWC when I

> worked there since the HR interviews were generally things like 'Why do

> you like sunshine?' and 'What is your favorite color of hair?' so they

> kept hiring people who had 'good' resumes but zero actual knowledge.

>

> The funny thing there was that the kind of resumes I throw in the

> garbage here (skills: Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Adobe Acrobat,

> Notepad, Calculator, Pacman, Windows Start Menu, JPEG, CPU,

> Keyboard/Mouse, etc) got through most of the screening there because

> they could check off 'Knows Microsoft Word, knows Pacman' and pass it on

> as a stellar resume. The guys who wrote things like 'Built a flux

> capacitor out of spare motherboards, constructed a satellite dish out of

> cardboard to watch Iranian TV, write assembly in the bathroom' never

> made it through because they didn't know Microsoft Word.

>

> So, I had to come up with something to screen out the first crowd and

> make sure the second were what they said they were. The stuff I said

> below was the gist of it, it was a mix of specific knowledge (e.g. what

> is a subnet mask) and situation based stuff (I can't remember the harder

> parts but the simpler stuff was things like 'Customer X has a router, we

> are giving them a publ