Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
* Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 10/12/2012 10:23 AM, Tim Densmore wrote: There's a real market gap not quite being filled by our usual WISP vendors MT and UBNT. MT has a new CPE router with SFP support. This would be great for a regional CE fiber network. Let's say you have a building (say, Town Hall) with multiple tenants in it, each with a separate IP network (say, Town administration, Police, and School Admin). You'd want to be able to drop off one fiber with separate VLANs (virtual circuits) for each network, isolating the traffic from each other. An MEF switch is cheaper than a real Cisco router but a I can't speak to Ubiquiti but Mikrotik RouterOS certainly supports MPLS and VPLS (and LDP and OSPF and BGP). The design you describe is exactly what the majority of the world is using MPLS VPNs for -- utilizing, of course, LDP and BGP (and occasionally OSPF between CE and PE). Unless I'm missing something... -- Jeremy L. Gaddis e: jer...@as54225.net Network Engineer m: +1.812.865.0581 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Would Google Shopping\Checkout\Wallet, whateverit's called now work? I've never used it, but it seems to do a similar thing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:22:50 AM Subject: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal? Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v? Greg On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes you will. The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt won't like. You'll need to clean the ~18-27v from the batteries to 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: Need help, I'm looking to deploy a UBNT NSM5 powered by a 24v solar supply. Does anyone have experience with this? The data sheet shows that it requires a 24v supply however the POE injector supplied is 15v, do I need a DC to DC converter? Best regards, - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
II was told NO!! 27VDC Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v? Greg On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netmailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.commailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.commailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes you will. The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt won't like. You'll need to clean the ~18-27v from the batteries to 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: Need help, I'm looking to deploy a UBNT NSM5 powered by a 24v solar supply. Does anyone have experience with this? The data sheet shows that it requires a 24v supply however the POE injector supplied is 15v, do I need a
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
Most definitely not 30v. I was warned and have it hammered down to not hit 27v or higher. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: II was told NO!! 27VDC ** ** Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Ihnen *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question ** ** Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v? ** ** Greg On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes you will. The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt won't like. You'll need to clean the ~18-27v from the batteries to 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: Need help, I'm looking to deploy a UBNT NSM5 powered by a 24v solar supply. Does anyone have experience with this? The data sheet shows that it requires a 24v supply however the POE injector supplied is 15v, do I need a DC to DC converter? Best regards, - - - Olufemi
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Hi Chuck first of all thank you for your considerations. Unfortunately having a merchant account here (Europe) is not as easy as I thought. the thing is that all the times I went to a bank asking to start with the process they were telling me why do you want this? your volumes are so low, stay with paypal... But if I do not have a decent merchant account, how should I start accepting the money with credit cards? It sounds like a chicken-egg problem... At the same time I feel (not 100%) that something is going lost with paypal and that is stopping the business growing. I had issues with walled gardens and when I do the tests with the sandbox I have the feeling something is not working there. I know it's not the same system as the production one, but right now the sandbox is giving me a lot of issues... Thank you Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
I don't suppose IP Pay is available in Europe? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it To: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:33:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal? Hi Chuck first of all thank you for your considerations. Unfortunately having a merchant account here (Europe) is not as easy as I thought. the thing is that all the times I went to a bank asking to start with the process they were telling me why do you want this? your volumes are so low, stay with paypal... But if I do not have a decent merchant account, how should I start accepting the money with credit cards? It sounds like a chicken-egg problem... At the same time I feel (not 100%) that something is going lost with paypal and that is stopping the business growing. I had issues with walled gardens and when I do the tests with the sandbox I have the feeling something is not working there. I know it's not the same system as the production one, but right now the sandbox is giving me a lot of issues... Thank you Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Hi Mike I tried for a couple of months to work on the setup with them, then I guess they gave up :( Do you advice them? If so I will try again to find a solution directly with them... Thanky ou I don't suppose IP Pay is available in Europe? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it To: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:33:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal? Hi Chuck first of all thank you for your considerations. Unfortunately having a merchant account here (Europe) is not as easy as I thought. the thing is that all the times I went to a bank asking to start with the process they were telling me why do you want this? your volumes are so low, stay with paypal... But if I do not have a decent merchant account, how should I start accepting the money with credit cards? It sounds like a chicken-egg problem... At the same time I feel (not 100%) that something is going lost with paypal and that is stopping the business growing. I had issues with walled gardens and when I do the tests with the sandbox I have the feeling something is not working there. I know it's not the same system as the production one, but right now the sandbox is giving me a lot of issues... Thank you Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
OK, I asked about the PS2 years back and I believe I was told 30v for that. Greg On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: II was told NO!! 27VDC ** ** Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Ihnen *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question ** ** Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v? ** ** Greg On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes you will. The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt won't like. You'll need to clean the ~18-27v from the batteries to 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: Need help, I'm looking to deploy a UBNT NSM5 powered by a 24v solar supply. Does anyone have experience with this? The data sheet shows that it requires a 24v supply however the POE injector supplied is 15v, do I need a DC to DC converter? Best regards, - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
That is odd. I have no idea why it would get so hot unless the current passing it was significant. This was a schottky or a power diode right, not a zener? Most zeners will not take the current. On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Between the regulator and load. On Oct 15, 2012 5:01 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Where did you put that diode? I have done this and at the low power that is needed they do not get noticeably warm at all. On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I tried that method. Diode got hotter than hell. Burnt right through the insulation I covered it with (and since it was bent the jacket came right off). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes you will. The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt won't like. You'll need to clean the ~18-27v from the batteries to 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
I have this on my wall. Never used it. Nice to have. On Oct 17, 2012 11:32 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: This is an older document.. but it should help Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 10/17/2012 10:59 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: OK, I asked about the PS2 years back and I believe I was told 30v for that. Greg On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: II was told NO!! 27VDC Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Ihnen *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v? Greg On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes you will. The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt won't like. You'll need to clean the ~18-27v from the batteries to 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: Need help, I'm looking to deploy a UBNT NSM5
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
Can I ask that you all please move this over to the UBNT list? Thanks, -d On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I have this on my wall. Never used it. Nice to have. On Oct 17, 2012 11:32 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: This is an older document.. but it should help Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 10/17/2012 10:59 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: OK, I asked about the PS2 years back and I believe I was told 30v for that. Greg On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: II was told NO!! 27VDC Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Ihnen *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v? Greg On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes you will. The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt won't like. You'll need to clean the ~18-27v from the batteries to 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Not sure if this works in Europe. https://squareup.com/ On 10/17/2012 07:55 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Mike I tried for a couple of months to work on the setup with them, then I guess they gave up :( Do you advice them? If so I will try again to find a solution directly with them... Thanky ou I don't suppose IP Pay is available in Europe? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Paolo Di Francesco" paolo.difrance...@level7.it To: "Chuck Hogg" ch...@shelbybb.com Cc: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:33:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal? Hi Chuck first of all thank you for your considerations. Unfortunately having a merchant account here (Europe) is not as easy as I thought. the thing is that all the times I went to a bank asking to start with the process they were telling me "why do you want this? your volumes are so low, stay with paypal..." But if I do not have a decent merchant account, how should I start accepting the money with credit cards? It sounds like a chicken-egg problem... At the same time I feel (not 100%) that something is going lost with paypal and that is stopping the business growing. I had issues with walled gardens and when I do the tests with the sandbox I have the feeling something is not working there. I know it's not the same system as the production one, but right now the sandbox is giving me a lot of issues... Thank you Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new "paypal" like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Square is convenient, but expensive as far as those things go. And I'd bet if you used it with a Euro based system, it would cost even more for the conversion if it would even work. You might be better off negotiating a deal with IP Pay or Pro Pay, or even Authorize. Cameron On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: Not sure if this works in Europe. https://squareup.com/ On 10/17/2012 07:55 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Mike I tried for a couple of months to work on the setup with them, then I guess they gave up :( Do you advice them? If so I will try again to find a solution directly with them... Thanky ou I don't suppose IP Pay is available in Europe? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it paolo.difrance...@level7.it To: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com ch...@shelbybb.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:33:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal? Hi Chuck first of all thank you for your considerations. Unfortunately having a merchant account here (Europe) is not as easy as I thought. the thing is that all the times I went to a bank asking to start with the process they were telling me why do you want this? your volumes are so low, stay with paypal... But if I do not have a decent merchant account, how should I start accepting the money with credit cards? It sounds like a chicken-egg problem... At the same time I feel (not 100%) that something is going lost with paypal and that is stopping the business growing. I had issues with walled gardens and when I do the tests with the sandbox I have the feeling something is not working there. I know it's not the same system as the production one, but right now the sandbox is giving me a lot of issues... Thank you Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
The diode thing works fine IF you use the right diodes. For running a UBNT 24V device off a 24V battery floating on a charger, try 4x 1n4001 dioeds in series. will drop about 3V and carry 1A Works fine for me. That set of diodes will only carry one UBNT radio. Need a separate set for each radio. On 10/15/2012 4:38 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I tried that method. Diode got hotter than hell. Burnt right through the insulation I covered it with (and since it was bent the jacket came right off). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
Can you reveal your source? -Kristian On 10/17/2012 06:50 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: II was told NO!! 27VDC Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Ihnen *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v? Greg On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com mailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com mailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com mailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com mailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com mailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com mailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com mailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes you will. The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt won't like. You'll need to clean the ~18-27v from the batteries to 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com mailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: Need help, I'm looking to deploy a UBNT NSM5 powered by a 24v solar
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
I believe it was Matt Hardy and Then was told the same when I went to AirMax Certification classes. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:44 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question Can you reveal your source? -Kristian On 10/17/2012 06:50 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: II was told NO!! 27VDC Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v? Greg On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netmailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.commailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.commailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes you will. The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt won't like. You'll need to clean
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
At 10/17/2012 02:26 AM, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote: * Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 10/12/2012 10:23 AM, Tim Densmore wrote: There's a real market gap not quite being filled by our usual WISP vendors MT and UBNT. MT has a new CPE router with SFP support. This would be great for a regional CE fiber network. Let's say you have a building (say, Town Hall) with multiple tenants in it, each with a separate IP network (say, Town administration, Police, and School Admin). You'd want to be able to drop off one fiber with separate VLANs (virtual circuits) for each network, isolating the traffic from each other. An MEF switch is cheaper than a real Cisco router but a I can't speak to Ubiquiti but Mikrotik RouterOS certainly supports MPLS and VPLS (and LDP and OSPF and BGP). The design you describe is exactly what the majority of the world is using MPLS VPNs for -- utilizing, of course, LDP and BGP (and occasionally OSPF between CE and PE). Unless I'm missing something... You're missing something. I was specifically asking about Carrier Ethernet. It's a protocol. MPLS is a different protocol which, in the marketplace, largely competes with CE. I know RouterOS supports MPLS. But CE is different. Disregarding that CE is much more multi-protocol in support than MultiProtocol Label Switching, whose multi protocols are, in general, IP and IP, CE semantics include explicit CIR and EIR support, along with CBS and EBS (burst size) specification, on a per-virtual-circuit basis. MPLS does not have CIR semantics; it just assigns relative priorities, and is thus fiddly when offered traffic varies. At large volumes (once you get past RouterOS into carrier-class products), CE is generally cheaper per bit than MPLS, at least if you don't buy Cisco, which pretty much owns MPLS (it's their creation). Hamburgers are not chicken, even if both are often served for lunch. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
The forums and Matt Hardy I believe will back this up. You'll fry at over 27 volts. Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Can you reveal your source? -Kristian On 10/17/2012 06:50 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: II was told NO!! 27VDC Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Ihnen *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v? Greg On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com mailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com mailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com mailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com mailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com mailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com mailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com mailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes you will. The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt won't like. You'll need to clean the ~18-27v from the batteries to 24v. Josh Luthman Office:
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
Many UBNT deployments running at 27volts of clean DC power. Not saying it's ideal but it works. Justin -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:25 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question The forums and Matt Hardy I believe will back this up. You'll fry at over 27 volts. Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Can you reveal your source? -Kristian On 10/17/2012 06:50 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: II was told NO!! 27VDC Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Ihnen *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v? Greg On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side, the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com mailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from 12v will be negligible So this is how it would be: 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the load connected to the charge controller at 24v What do you think? - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com mailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8. If it blew up then there was probably a short somewhere. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right I will check though they swear that they did - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com mailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What voltage were the batteries spitting out? They charge at 27v but without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging. If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not that the voltage was too high. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com mailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: What's your typical config for the NSM5? Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no charger connected just battery) and it fried good - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 tel:%2B234-809-8610040 f...@adalemo.com mailto:f...@adalemo.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V. The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power on with 27V. Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls. -Kristian On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged, it's usually 27v. I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com mailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, thanks That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v regulated power - - - Olufemi Adalemo M: +234-803-5610040 tel:%2B234-803-5610040 M: +234-809-8610040 tel:%2B234-809-8610040
Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:14:03PM -0400, Justin Wilson wrote: Many UBNT deployments running at 27volts of clean DC power. Not saying it's ideal but it works. 27v at the ethernet port or 27v at the base of the tower? -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
