Re: [WISPA] Rocket Availability
Scott, we are a WISP & reseller. Have in stock in Indiana, please call/email and will try to help. Don Renner Helix Technologies, Inc. 8550 W. Main St. French Lick, IN 47432 812.936.2525office 812.936.2006fax 812.521.1876cell dren...@helixtec.net > On 2/9/2011 7:55 AM, Scott Reed wrote: >> Anyone know where I can find 1 or 2 pair of Ubiquiti Rocket M5 and 2' >> dishes? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 Scott Reed [sr...@nwwnet.net] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Canopy 3.65
We started testing this week. Don Renner NetsurfUSA dren...@netsurfusa.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:01 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Canopy 3.65 Has anyone had a chance to test the new Canopy 3.65 PtMP gear? I'm mostly interested in cost/sub and max throughput/sub Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Group Purchase of Motorola 5.7/2.4 and/or 900 connectorized
We are looking to do a Motorola Canopy purchase of 100 pack of 2.4 (could be combined with 5.7) and 100 pack of 900 connectorized. NetsurfUSA only needs 50 each, but would go to 75. Would anyone like to go in with our company? Thanks, Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. 8550 Main St. French Lick, IN 47342 812-936-4514office 812-521-1876cell dren...@netsurfusa.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wireless backhauls for Cell Carriers
A coordinated effort by WISPA to provide some of the necessary backhauls, seems like a good idea. http://www.rcrwireless.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091223/INFRASTRUCTUR E/912219995/ Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. 8550 W. Main St. French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-4514 Office 812-936-2006 Fax 812-521-1876 Cell dren...@netsurfusa.net <mailto:dren...@helixtec.net> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] T1 radios needed
Advertisement, can offer T1/E1 in 4, 8, 16 multiples on backhaul. Cost effectively. Don Renner Helix Technologies, Inc. 812-936-2525office 812-521-1876cell dren...@helixtec.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] T1 radios needed I think the AN30 is way way EOL'ed though, isn't it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Butch Evans wrote: > On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 16:30 -0700, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: > > I have a situation where I need to come up with a couple of links that > > can do T1 connectivity for a cell phone company. > > Not sure they'll fit in the budget, but IIRC, Redline has a 5GHz unit > that has T1 (AN30, I think). > > -- > > * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* > * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * > * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * > * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Radwin 2000 any real world experience?
Does anyone have any real world experience with Radwin 2000 integrated or prefer connectorized - Actual speed and packets per second. Thanks, Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-4514office 812-521-1876cell dren...@netsurfusa.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for Stimulus Funding?
Open Range application has been 2-3 years in process. They are not part of the Stimulus monies. The standard RUS monies have/had a much longer time for rollout ( number of years ). Where stimulus $ will probably have to be spent in approx 2 years. Please hit me off list for more info. Don Renner NetsurfUSA 812-936-2525 dren...@netsurfusa.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:06 AM To: 'Motorola Canopy User Group'; 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for Stimulus Funding? This morning I was reading about Alvarion winning the $100MM bid for supplying Open Range network with their Breezemax product ( <http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss> http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss ) for their 17 State rollout of fixed wireless. I decided to see what markets Open Range was serving, which I found here: <http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html> http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html. On that page there is a link for a complete list of communities that takes you here: <http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/> http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/. This site is the USDA/RUS site and it states : "Special Note to Potential Loan Applicants: Potential applicants should note that communities associated with approved applications are no longer eligible for RUS funding." Hold the phone, when did the USDA/RUS start their loan program? My understanding is that they are waiting on NTIA guidelines before they even have an application available. According to the USDA/RUS site: <http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm> http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm they state: "New regulations are currently being developed to implement the 2008 Farm Bill requirements. With the publication of the new regulations, revised application materials will be posted." Am I missing something, or is this media hype? Thanks, Victoria Proffer CEO StLouisBroadband.com <http://stlbroadband.com/> ShowMeBroadband.com <http://missouriruralwireless.com/> 314.974.5600 SBA Certified WOSB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fiber Products
Not online, but SCS, Ltd. out of St. Louis, MO have been very helpful. They enjoy talking to the customer. Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of sa...@michianawireless.com Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fiber Products Hello, Does anyone have a good online source for OSP fiber products such as trunk cables, pedestals, dmarcs, etc...? Thanks, John Buwa Michiana Wireless WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)
I would second the recommendation of Brian Webster's work. Took our 1000 people and produced the 28 census tracts in 7 counties. Total time after receiving 1hr 15 min. Don Renner NetsurfUSA 812-936-4514 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments) If you're asking about form 477 the due date is in 22 minutes. http://www.fcc.gov/form477/ JUST got ours in 20 min ago. Shew!!! Only took 2 guys 7 hours straight to churn the data into FCC acceptabledata. I'll keep my comments to myself on this. Dylan From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN What is the due date for that form? Cliff Olle wrote: With the information that Brian Webster generated for us, we did the filing in 5 minutes. I highly recommend if you are getting close to crunch time and are looking up tract data to give him a shot on this. Best $100 I ever spent. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: "Scott Piehn" <mailto:li...@jcwifi.com> To: <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com> ; "WISPA General List" <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: "Scott Carullo" <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com> To: "WISPA General List" <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: "WISPA General List" <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday
Link to public comments is on the title page, not page with video. http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/ Submit Public Comments link Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. 812-936-4514 dren...@netsurfusa.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Denise Hamilton Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday I was ticked that Sasha rebutted my remarks regarding the 477 form but I did call back in and have on public record that we want the 477 form to be a criteria since it means we have been playing by the rules! And it will be too much of a bear to have thousands of apps without any prequels at all. And the lady that kept stressing government involvement (Betty - ugh!). I could barely sit down through that whole meeting. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Yes on Form 477! ;) V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday I don't know. I've not been able to find that! I wonder if that was a slip up and he meant to say something else? marlon - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday > How does one ask questions via the webcast? > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM > To: > Cc: "WISPA General List" > Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia > meetingstoday > >> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html >> >> come join me. >> marlon >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act
The $6 Billion should be for the Telecom side only. There are Power, Telecom and last Broadband divisions with Broadband working out of the Telecom side but numbers are kept separate. Broadband started in 2004 I thought. Was given numbers for broadband in a seminar were $ 1.2 Billion loan guarantees and 175 grants for $ 85 Million since inception. Used to be a RUS contractor and helped with the rewrite of the 515 outside plant contract. Don Renner NetsurfUSA 8550 Main St. French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-4514 dren...@netsurfusa.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act >From my understanding, the RUS is redefining their guildlines. They awarded grants to the least population without Broadband. If you look last years awards, you will see what I mean (attached). I think now they are going to try to fund the most populations in unserved/underserved areas. Of course, IMHO. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > So RUS has given out about as much money so far as the stimulus act is > giving us? > > How is the stimulus act supposed to blanket the country if the RUS so far > hasn't been able to accomplish much with roughly the same amount of money? > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > From: "Kevin Suitor" > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:59 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act > > > $6,352,381,264 between 2001 and May 2008 (see attached from UDSA RUS web > > site) > > > > http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/index.htm > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:37 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act > > > > "It is anticipated that there will be at least one grant in every > > state." > > > > So it's possible for a state to not get any money out of $3.9B? > > > > How much money was put into RUS funds previously? > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > -- > > From: "Blake Bowers" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:11 PM > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Subject: [WISPA] Stimulus act > > > > <http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20090223/WIRELESS/902239988/1082/100 > > /> > >> Don't take your organs to heaven, > >> heaven knows we need them down here! > >> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow
Who is Crossroads? Having issues with RUS backed Open Range(wireless) and IBEC(BPL) in our areas. Don Renner -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Crossroads has shut things down for now due to money supply. Apparently with the banking crisis their banks have delayed releasing funds to them for deployment. My project for them was shut down back at the end of August. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of jp Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow I'm all for having someone else pay for expensive infrastructure, but I hope that if the feds go forward with something like this, it's done differently than the RUS system. It's easier to do business my way and pay a tiny bit more for money from a bank, than to do all the RUS planning and paperwork hoops to get RUS subsidized loans. Speaking of RUS, has anyone noticed any crossroads wireless stuff happening? They've signed up to be at lots of sites, but I haven't actually heard much about deployment activity. On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:52:31PM -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123059580600140977.html?mod=googlenews_wsj > > Hopefully the cable companies haven't bought out the decision makers. It > would be great to see the WISPs across the states that are doing exactly > what is being suggested needs done gets assistance. I know it can't come > soon enough for this small WISP! > > We have all had the pleasure to earn a customer that has three kids nagging > at him for a PC and Internet access with that extra bonus check from work, > but think of the countless older couples or less fortunate families that > could really use the help catching up with the rest of the world > technologically. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > --- Henry Spencer > > > -- -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DMS Wireless Antennas
We have had much better performance with M2 900 yagi. Used to use the DMSs. Don Renner NetsurfUSA 812-936-4514 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DMS Wireless Antennas Does anyone have any comments on 900MHz DMS Wireless sector antennas? They seem to have the highest gain out there but the low price has me concerned. Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P Please consider the environment before printing this email WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS
Magellan makes some GPS that include a GPS based compass to ignore the magnetic problems with some vertical assets. Will also work standing still, but uses batteries fairly fast with the compass turned on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS We've been using the Garmin 70 and 60 series with altimeter (as opposed to elevation from map data). Garmin claims an accuracy of 10 feet "with proper calibration". Even with fluxgate, the electronic compass is unreliable near towers. Has anyone used a gyrocompass? ted On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: > Mike, > > The elevation reading on a GPS is only accurate to within about 30 feet. > Using one to measure tower height is not going to product accurate results. > > Travis > Microserv > > Mike Hammett wrote: >> I am looking at getting a GPS device. I'd like it to work with many different programs such as Google Earth, Radio Mobile, Kismet, etc. >> >> What sort of features do I need it to have to work with these programs? >> >> I'd also like to have it be an independent unit with elevation so I can climb a tower and see exactly how tall it is instead of pulling a number out of you know where. >> >> Recommendations? >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless industry slams NAB's whitespace'misinformation'
Marlon, would it be possible for Broadband delivery to be what is current VHF & low UHF channels 2-13 + 14-30 and Higher UHF 31-68+ for personal devices. We get better propogations and higher would have appearance of less distance (not really). Possible solution that all could work for common goal and leave bands for each. Don Renner NetsurfUSA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:55 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless industry slams NAB's whitespace'misinformation' Personal portable devices would also include laptops. HAS to include laptops. I think that a compromise would be to start out with the band as an outdoor or at least fixed antenna only solution. Out door so that we could use it for public safety or mobile devices, but only ones that would normally be attached to a vehicle or some such thing. And fixed antennas so that we could use the band to deliver broadband to homes/businesses. It would, however, be done with an antenna that is mounted either to or in the building. These two steps would keep the number of devices using the band to a much smaller level. On an interesting note, the broadcasters are fighting the whitespaces issue very hard, but as they know they are likely to loose the fight I'm told that they do support the above position. This time we as WISPs actually line up more closely with big media than we do with NAF or MAP. sigh, politics, sigh grin I've not had personal contact with the NAB yet. I've worked with Carl at the 802.22 committee. Unfortunately the 802.22 committee is very heavy into things like geolocation for all devices, broadcaster beacons that can be used to shut down transmitters when they are in the area with their mics etc. Our stance has always been that sensing is the only real way to do this. Drawing circles on the map will leave out far too many environmental factors. I'm also totally against the geolocation idea because it'll require more electronics, has NO benefit (distance can be learned just fine by timing pulses) and we'll need TWO antennas for every dang'd installation! Foowy on that. It's a tough issue for all around, especially without Powell in the chairmanship. Martin is not proving to be a friend of the WISP in many ways. With all of the pressure he's under, maybe it'll help though. Scriv, Rick H. and I are probably the most up to speed on a lot of this due to our involvement with a Whitespaces list that included Cisco, MS, Intel, 802.22 etc. going back at least 2 years. Not much has been done on that list since the Report and Order that freed up the Whitespaces for unlicensed use though. I think our stand against personal portable devices has turned folks like MS, Intel and such against our stance. That's to be expected though, so I'm not worried about it. We have to fight for what WE know to be the best options for our markets, just like they do. Our biggest problem is that we're not back there talking the FCC and we've not done much with recent NPRMs. I'd hate for anyone at the FCC to mistake that for disinterest vs. time crunch issues. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless industry slams NAB's whitespace'misinformation' > I assumed that too but would like to be sure I am making the correct > assumptions. I also wonder what he feels should be allowed. I know how > I feel about it and lacking information, assume everyone feels the > same =) > > On 1/18/08, Jason Hensley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I would think that by personal portable devices he means things like >> cordless phones, wireless headsets, etc etc. If I understand that >> right, I >> would have to concur wholeheartedly. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:12 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless industry slams NAB's white >> space'misinformation' >> >> Can you explain why you feel that way? >> >> On 1/17/08, Marlon K. Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I've sent a note to WIA and asked if they'd be interested in a >> > discussion focused on finding common ground between them and us. >> > >> > It's my belief that WISPA needs to fight tooth and nail to keep >> > personal portable devices out of the whitespaces band. At leas
RE: [WISPA] Cherokee Wireless - Poplar PCS
Blake, Please contact me off list for our dealings with Cherokee Wireless Don Renner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cherokee Wireless - Poplar PCS I sent this yesterday, but never saw anything, perhaps it did not go out. Anyone dealing with these folk? Are they actually operational? Do they have a web page? Anything? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RE: How to get climbers licensed.
We were ask for certificates for our climbers for first time. Where can we get training for getting our climbers licensed? Either at our location or go to a training facility. Thanks, Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-4514office 812-936-2006fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
We would be willing to pay bounty for clients. Would prefer to not do residual, is too much paperwork. Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zack Kneisley Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Robert I would be willing to pay a bounty, Top rank on the Google search results is impressive. I'm sure that many other independent WISP's would be happy to pay a bounty as long as it generated customers and was a fair price. Personally (no offense Marlon or Jeromie) I would even be willing to pay a lot more for a referral, even in the 3 digits, as long as it was a fair payout for a contract customer. Customer acquisition and retention is one of the most important aspects of the game. I think it even might be possible to get residual income as long as it's fair. I don't mind handing out money, as long we both make money. Zack On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Marlon, Jerome, > > so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission > payout as long as the customer pays? > > > > On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is > > a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking > > them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My > > referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or > > customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service > > as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Marlon, guys, > > > is there an industry standard referral commission? > > > anyone out there service europe? > > > I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come > > > to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and > when > > > > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll > try to > > > > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or > $20. You get to > > > > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get > to them > > > > today, but can with the next expansion. > > > > > > > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to > make sure > > > > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long > distance rates > > > > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > > > > > > > just a thought. > > > > Marlon > > > > (509) 982-2181 > > > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > > > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator > since 1999! > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "wispa" > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > > > > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > > > > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > > > > > > > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > > > > > > > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless > > > > > internet service. > > > > > > > > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any > > > > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver > > > > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > > > > > > > > > blank slate. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > > > &g
RE: [WISPA] CWA's suggested improvements of Form 477
Mike, CWA is Communication Workers of America a very aggressive union. Here is main website http://www.cwa-union.org/ Subsidiary website for wireless (focus is primarily cell/telephone companies http://www.wirelessworker.org/ Don Renner -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CWA's suggested improvements of Form 477 I'm not sure who CWA is, but the current measurements of broadband availability are just about worthless. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Don Renner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:03 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] CWA's suggested improvements of Form 477 > > > Thought the list might like to see CWA's idea of reporting the FCC form > 477. > Additional info would be tiers of users, number of homes passed, speed > tests, number of users by Zip +4, speed tests and a host of other goodies. > > Seems like CWA wants market research to find out size of Broadband > providers > and where to organize. > > http://files.cwa-union.org/national/communicationspolicy/comments/fcc07-38_c > omments_cwa.pdf > > Don Renner > NetsurfUSA, Inc. > 812-936-2525 office > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know > your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The > current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to > know your thoughts. > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know > your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The > current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to > know your thoughts. > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] CWA's suggested improvements of Form 477
Thought the list might like to see CWA's idea of reporting the FCC form 477. Additional info would be tiers of users, number of homes passed, speed tests, number of users by Zip +4, speed tests and a host of other goodies. Seems like CWA wants market research to find out size of Broadband providers and where to organize. http://files.cwa-union.org/national/communicationspolicy/comments/fcc07-38_c omments_cwa.pdf Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. 812-936-2525 office Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MTU BPL
The Motorola Solution I have used is 10-14Mbps total. Works like a hub in capacity. Have later technology should be out real soon now ;) (new chip set) that will take to 35-50Mbps. Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MTU BPL Telkonet has an in-house BPL (isn't this like HPNA?) solution. Now there is paint that can keep the RF from leaking outside the walls. Zack Kneisley wrote: > If it was the article in Tessco Wireless Journal, it was 8-12 specs > and "one > test showed that the network in the apartment building was supporting > speeds > of 15 Mbps" Mind this is a distributor that sells the gear telling these > stories, so take it with a grain of salt. > > > On 5/16/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> I have been against BPL due to RF pollution. That said, a technical >> evolution could resolve some of those issues. >> >> I recently saw an article about Moto's MTU BPL solutions and was >> wondering >> if anyone here has worked with them. Does anyone else have a >> internal BPL >> system (meaning not what the power company would use) that is of a >> higher >> class than what you'd get at Best Buy? >> >> I saw that some of that consumer gear would do 85 megs (really about >> 25). That article said that the Moto gear does 8 - 12 megs, observed >> peak >> of 25. Is that sort of speed par for the course? Is that per >> circuit or >> gross? 8 megs to a whole building isn't much, though 8 megs to each is >> attractive. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] TTP
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] TTP Has anyone spoken with any TTP for CALEA mediation boxes? After re-reading the Cisco CALEA compliance stuff today, (http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2007/04/calea-tpp.html) I'm beginning to think that you need a box that can massage the data dump and transport it to the LEA. According to Bearhill's webinar today (http://www.bearhill.com/webinars.html), being able to make th etap with compliant equipment is one thing, being able to extract the data and send it real-time to the LEA is another thing. I have a client who spoke with Apogee, who is basically re-using an SS8 box. Cost is about $800 per month. They do all the heavy lifting. I read a couple reviews of Solera. There box is about $7000. I don't know what Bearhill's solution costs. It depends on how many POP's I guess. So any input on TTP's ??? -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
George, I would like to help. Not sure if I have skill set to be of service. Please contact me off list on what you want more people to do. Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. 812-936-2525office 812-521-1876cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 4:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA We need more help on the fcc committee. Dawn DiPietro wrote: > Marlon, > > I am not on the WISPA FCC Committee and this should have been done > before it got posted to the list to begin with. Either this committee > has the time to do the job right or not at all. If something is done > half assed then it will show in the finished product. > > Regards, > Dawn DiPietro > > > Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: >> Grin. As well as we can with the time available. >> >> If you see things that need to be fixed, please let us know. >> >> thanks, >> Marlon >> (509) 982-2181 >> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services >> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since >> 1999! >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:07 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA >> >> >>> Marlon, >>> >>> I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the >>> website. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dawn DiPietro >>> >>> >>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>> I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa >>>> site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. >>>> >>>> laters, >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> - Original Message - From: "Adam Greene" >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" >>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA >>>> >>>> >>>>> Marlon, >>>>> >>>>> All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and >>>>> gal) for >>>>> doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing >>>>> alone >>>>> makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I >>>>> probably would >>>>> not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without >>>>> the help of >>>>> WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this >>>>> work, so >>>>> all I can say is thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA >>>>> website so >>>>> that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share >>>>> this info >>>>> with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the >>>>> larger community. >>>>> >>>>> Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the >>>>> contact info of >>>>> the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Adam Greene >>>>> VP, Operations >>>>> Webjogger Internet Services >>>>> http://www.webjogger.net >>>>> (845) 757-4000 x134 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "Principal WISPA Member List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Cc: "WISPA General List" >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM >>>>> Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the >>>>>> FBI's >>>>>> CALEA team fir
RE: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings
NetsurfUSA filled - 2007223533293 - Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings I filed: **2007223902414** Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > Good grief guys, there are only 12 new filings in the last week or > so!! > > Why, in the name of God, would the FCC give a rats behind about our > industry if we can't be bothered to talk to them? > > Listen, the new rules get made according to the WRITTEN record! Our > trips to the FCC are great and we both learn a lot, but when it comes > time to make regulations they go to the paperwork that's been filed! > > EVERYONE here needs to file personally. Here's my confirmation > :'2007223682035 > > Just go to this link: > http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi > > Put 04-186 in the top left box and follow the instructions to voice > your opinions on what the FCC should do with the soon to be opened up > tv bands! All you have to do is till them to make the bands > unlicensed, no auctions, no registration etc. Say more if you want, > but we really need to drive home the unlicensed idea. > > Get off your hind ends guys! > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Form 445
Include NetsurfUSA, Inc. in the WISPA 445 filing for CALEA. Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. 812-936-4514 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Form 445 If you are a paid WISPA Principal Member then you do not have to worry about filing your CALEA Form 445. Kris Twomey is handling it for all paid WISPA Principal Members who want it done for them. They are allowing later filing now. Kris will be filing on behalf of all paid WISPA Principal Members. All you have to do is reply to the email and say, "Include me in WISPA 445 Filing" and include your official, legal company name. That's it. Your filing will be complete.This is being done as a benefit of WISPA membership at NO CHARGE TO YOU. To take advantage of this offer you MUST respond within 24 hours, by no later than 3 pm Central time on Tuesday, Feb 13th. If you are not already a paid WISPA member then this is not available to you unless you get us $250 before noon tomorrow Central time and fill out the form at http://signup.wispa.org. John Scrivner President WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)
I will be in meetings with Motorola next week. Will see if can get done. What level did Alvarion commit to? Might help get them to make bigger outlay. Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. 812-936-4514 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) I’m not sure whether they have yet. I think they were last year but I don’t recall right now. Anyone who is a valuable Motorola customer want to take this on? Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) On 9/28/06, Rick Harnish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If we can get Motorola to become a WISPA vendor member, we will gladly start a list here without those restrictions. How has Motorola been approached? Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Durbin Bill Follow-Up.
Sascha, The use of TV white spaces is the best and most cost effective way to serve Rural America in low density areas with trees, hills and valleys. All of the other methods including WiMax will not work in Southern / Central Indiana. Our markets are those unserved by Telco's and CATV's. They do not want to serve because of density. TV white space will give much better coverage - from 25-30% in rural areas to 50-70% depending on terrain. Please express the need for unlicensed bands or an FCC method to reward service to these people, not having someone purchase frequencies and then just sit on them. Those non served persons in Rural America want service now, not in 5 years. It is a very important point for the development of the non served areas. Our company, NetsurfUSA, Inc., a 12 month old WISP with 350 clients cannot and will not support any bill which would limit the use of TV white space for Broadband. Thank you for your consideration, Don Renner NetSurfUSA, Inc. 8550 Main St. French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-4514office 812-936-2006fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Durbin Bill Follow-Up. The ban on TV band use would be a deal breaker for just about anything else for me.. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Sascha Meinrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: [WISPA] Durbin Bill Follow-Up. > Hi all, > > When I met with Durbin's staff at the end of July, we talked a lot about > provisions 1 & 3 that are now in the bill. However, I've also just > learned that there may be a poison pill in the bill that makes unlicensed > use of the TV broadcast spectrum illegal (which is also something that me > and a lot of other folks have been working on for quite some time), which > would change my take on the bill rather dramatically. > > I'm following up with Durbin's folks this week, so if there's any > message/info I should pass along, just let me know, > > --Sascha > > -- > Sascha Meinrath > Executive Director * Principal * President > CUWiN *** The Ethos Group *** Acorn Active Media > CUWireless.Net * EthosWireless.com * AcornActiveMedia.com > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reseller Agreement
Title: Reseller Agreement I would also be interested in any agreements that would be put in the public domain. Seem to be struggling with the wording and correct terms and conditions. Thanks for the help, Don Renner NetSurfUSA, Inc. 8550 Main St. French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-4514 office 812-936-2006 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini To: 'WISPA General List' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Reseller Agreement Anyone have a Reseller agreement for share, we will be wholesaling our services to another company and would like to get an idea Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Used Trazneo CPE's
Kurt, I will be out of office today. Can get me on cell 812-521-1876 or office 812-936-2525. We would be interested in your 200-19’s Thanks, Don Renner From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:31 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Used Trazneo CPE's Is anyone interested in some Tranzeo CPE’s? I have TR-CPE200’s 19’s and 15’s. What should I charge for these? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Fiber Supplier
We have had good luck with SCS, Ltd., in O’Fallon, MO. Talk to Steve Pauk, he has given us very good service From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:38 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Fiber Supplier Where do you guys get your fiber? Looking for single mode or multi-mode, indoor, breakout, 12 strands. Thanks. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
I apologize if this is not appropriate, just trying to help. We are member of WISPA and helping some WISP's purchase equipment. Please contact me off list, can give pricing & want to support the WISPA members. Don Renner Helix Technologies, Inc. 8550 W. Main St. French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-2525office 812-936-2006fax 812-521-1876cell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices I'll make some calls tomorrow and see what the distributors say. Travis Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > There are so many risks that _someone_ is going to have to assume. > Example: If I say "put me down for 20 units and here's my credit > card". You place the order with the distributor, and I get my items. > However, either the distributor will put each order in different names > (thus, once the boss finds out it will be done), or they all go under > a single name. Now, with my credit card being charged, but only a > single invoice created for the "big" order, I can contact my credit > card company and file a chargeback. There will be no invoice for the > purchase, and nothing in my name. I just got 20 radios for free and > the distributor just lost big money. > > This is only one example. There are 10 other risks to this "project" > and someone will have to take them all... > > Why not just lease your CPE? Even doing 25 at a time, I think you can > get 30 or 60 days before your first payment. > > Travis > Microserv > > Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > >> Basically what I propose (in a nutshell) is going to a the >> distrobuters and saying this. I have ten or twenty or whatever WISPs >> and we all want to buy ten units of *insert brand here* and have them >> all shipped to different addresses and charged to different >> accounts. What are you willing to do to accomidate us? I know >> there are a number of distobuters out there. Ones that do millions >> worth of gear all the way down to ones that operate WISPs and became >> resellers of the gear they use in order to get their volume up. If >> ten people can install ten a month. That is 1200 a year. If we >> look, I bet there is a reseller somewhere who wants to increase >> volume by 1200 a year. 5k a year wouldn't be stretching the >> imagination too far either. >> >> Am I dumb here guys? Why wouldn't this work? >> >> Tom DeReggi wrote: >> >>> Charles, >>> >>> I fully second your post. >>> Well said. >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" >>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices >>> >>> >>> >>> You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up >>> eating >>> the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a >>> volume club. >>> >>> >>> We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and >>> getting a T1 line >>> >>> Having run both a WISP and a distribution company, I can personally >>> attest >>> to the fact that there's more to distribution (which is what your >>> proposing) >>> than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP >>> >>> Have you considered all the risks / implications that the buying group >>> faces? For starters, there's the question of payment -- given that the >>> buying group has no / limited credit, chances are that any vendor will >>> require cash up front for the purchase >>> >>> So, for example, say Motorola Canopy is the product WISPA chooses >>> Then WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ $100k to purchase that >>> 500 >>> pack (at say, $200 / unit for simplicity's sake) >>> Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a warehouse to store >>> stuff >>> Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a shipper/logistics >>> guy to >>> repackage / ship stuff >>> >>> On top of that, chances are, 50% of the WISPs who committed to >>> purchasing >>> the packs will renege and/or delay their deliveries due to unforseen >&
RE: [WISPA] Trango Pricing
John, Very sorry, it should have been off list. My fault. Don Renner -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Pricing Please make sure that replies to vendors are not made on the list. I understand everyone makes mistakes but we need to try to keep the noise level down on the list if possible. Thanks guys, Scriv Don Renner wrote: > Shayne, > > > > We would like to purchase the Trango product line. Current needs are > mainly backhauls. > > We do a lot of custom solutions for clients with us building WLANs and > selling completed product > > or leasing and maintaining the backhauls, electronics and monitoring. > > > > Thank you for the consideration of our selling you product. > > > > Don Renner > > Helix Technologies, Inc. > > P.O. Box 307, 8550 Main St. > > French Lick, IN 47432 > > 812-936-2525 office > > 812-936-2006 fax > > 812-521-1876 cell > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > www.helixtec.net > > > > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *On Behalf Of *Shayne Rose > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:07 PM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* [WISPA] Trango Pricing > > > > Attention Trango Users: > > > > ALL Pricing on our Web is MSRP! None of you should be buying at MSRP. > Due to the fact that we sell through distributors internationally, we > do not publish WISP pricing. You all, CAN and Should have a login and > password to our Webstore which will give you WISP pricing, which is > directly in line with your current pricing. Understanding that many of > you buying through our former STAR partners received additional > discounts and terms can address this individually by contacting me > directly. > > > > If you have any questions or need a login, please contact me directly. > I am accessible via e-mail and cell. > > > > **/Shayne Rose/***//* > > **/National Sales Manager/***//* > > /*/Trango Broadband/*/*//* > > /*/a division of /*/**///Trango Systems, Inc.// > <http://www.trangosys.com/>/***//* > > */15070 Ave of Science, Suite 200/**//* > > */San Diego/**/, CA 92128/**//* > > */Office: 858-653-3900x272/**//* > > */Fax: 858-683-2124 e-Fax/**//* > > */Mobile/**/: 858-335-2245/**//* > > */Email: /**/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* > > */=/* > > */NOTE: This email may contain information that is confidential in > nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this > email and notify the sender immediately. Thank you./* > > */=/* > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Trango Pricing
Shayne, We would like to purchase the Trango product line. Current needs are mainly backhauls. We do a lot of custom solutions for clients with us building WLANs and selling completed product or leasing and maintaining the backhauls, electronics and monitoring. Thank you for the consideration of our selling you product. Don Renner Helix Technologies, Inc. P.O. Box 307, 8550 Main St. French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-2525 office 812-936-2006 fax 812-521-1876 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.helixtec.net From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shayne Rose Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango Pricing Attention Trango Users: ALL Pricing on our Web is MSRP! None of you should be buying at MSRP. Due to the fact that we sell through distributors internationally, we do not publish WISP pricing. You all, CAN and Should have a login and password to our Webstore which will give you WISP pricing, which is directly in line with your current pricing. Understanding that many of you buying through our former STAR partners received additional discounts and terms can address this individually by contacting me directly. If you have any questions or need a login, please contact me directly. I am accessible via e-mail and cell. Shayne Rose National Sales Manager Trango Broadband a division of Trango Systems, Inc. 15070 Ave of Science, Suite 200 San Diego, CA 92128 Office: 858-653-3900x272 Fax: 858-683-2124 e-Fax Mobile: 858-335-2245 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = NOTE: This email may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this email and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. = -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
-Original Message- To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! FCC Acknowledges Receipt of Comments From.and Thank You for Your Comments Donald L. Renner Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929853326 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 The following is the comments for the record. Our company is a new Wireless ISP in Southern Indiana serving low density town and rural non-served and underserved areas. The need for high-speed broadband in rural areas is critical. Non-served areas will lose the younger population, because they cannot access the Internet and the services that are provided through high speed broadband. We do a site survey for every contact to see if service can be provided. We average 30% installs and cannot serve the rest. This is using 900, 2.4 and 5.7 frequencies. None of these frequencies will work in trees around the house, light forest or in terrain of rolling hills of 100 to 300 feet. Population density are 3 to 12 persons per mile and is not cost effective for current wired solutions. NetsurfUSA does not have the capitol to build towers for every 20 customers, but this is what it would take to serve 85% of our customers and our payback would be 15-20 years. All of our equipment is in the ISM bands and we have worked well with other users and providers to not have conflicts, but there is dramatic growth of more users coming to the current spectrum and are increasing noise floor for everyone. If WISP's had the TV channel spectrum then we would leave a lot of the current unlicensed spectrum to other users, both current and future. This would help us maintain more dense modulation schemes with lower signal to noise ratios. We are a very small business, that is trying to serve our customers and friends who want to continue to live in a non urban lifestyle. Wireless is the only cost effective way to serve them with such low population densities, but the current frequencies will not provide service to most of them. It will take the unused TV channels to provide them high speed broadband. If you allocate the TV channels and just put them up for auction, you will have failed to give these people the relief that they want. Auction of the spectrum will go to large, well funded companies and groups of speculators looking to get the spectrum for resale and profit as the primary goal and not to provide service and innovation. This spectrum would make it possible to serve the vast majority of rural customers. Large Telco's and Cable companies are serving high density areas with very high bandwidth pipes to provide voice, data and video at inexpensive rates and their rural customers are left with basic dialup. WISP's have a passion to serve our customers and neighbors but we need you to help us get the spectrum to provide what the current spectrum cannot. Our country and economy needs to have rural high speed broadband that allows anyone to live anywhere in America and have access. Donald L. Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. P.O. Box 310 French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-4514 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows
Rick, Will see you in Utah. Am getting in about 11:30pm on Sunday. Will be at Mon meetings. Is WISPA going to meet Monday? Thanks, Don Renner NetsurfUSA 812-521-1876 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:09 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trade SHows I'm heading out to WINOG tonight. I won't make Dallas, but I'll send you a new tube of Boudreaux's. Did you ever try that stuff on your head Mac. I don't have any idea who else is going to Utah except Judd. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows I couldn't agree more with you Alex - - $500.00 smackers is a bunch for meeting up with my wireless bud's. I am gonna attend the WISPCON this time around and I would really love to go to ISPCON. I talked to Larsen the other day and about it and that is my plans. I aint gonna pay no $500.00 to learn how to spell antenna, but I will spend $5K to meet up with some of y'all. We can get together and have our own grown up discussion about whatever we feel relevant - - - -- - - - So - - You gonna make WispCon? I will get the room with double beds and you can shack with me. We can trash the bar every night and eat all the donuts early in the morning while everyone else is learning about microwave paths and how to add up how many mw's make a watt!! I do know that there are free buffets at certain hotels as well IF you can get to the 4th floor!! Damn - - I have turned into bad blood hanging with all these other ISP's Harnish - - where you gonna be and what you gonna attend? -- Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-303-4107 - Monroe, La 318-450-4101 - NOC A. Huppenthal wrote: I'm thinking of going to a Trade Show this year. About the only one I attend with any regularity is ISPCON, simply because I've been in this business since 1996. Does anyone go to W-ISPCON? Is there really a difference between any of the trade shows? I've heard all about the WISP-nog version of my ideas for a tradeshow, so I don't need to hear more about that. There are so many trade shows these days, I'm just looking for comments from those of you who have attended a recent one and found it worthwhile. Frankly I don't see any trade show that costs $500 or more worthwhile any longer, but perhaps I'm entirely wrong, or its just that I'm past the learning curve. -AH -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] BB Bill of Rights?
Marlon, The idea/theory of bill of rights is what WISPA is about. I do not really like the link you sent. It seems to be more about bashing the Telco's that serving subscribers and non-served subscribers. The concepts are there but the wording is not something that our company could support. Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. P.O. Box 310 French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-4514Office 812-936-2006Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BB Bill of Rights? I didn't take time to do more than skim it. But if some committee wants to come up with something I think it's a good idea. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "A. Huppenthal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 7:58 AM Subject: [WISPA] BB Bill of Rights? > How's everyone feel about WISPA working to adopt a policy / position > statement for our member companies and end-users along these lines: > > http://www.newnetworks.com/broadbandbill.htm > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
