Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
v3.0 has a released API to make your own anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware Not to my knowledge. I asked Arnis about this at a couple of WISPCONs and he didn't seem averse to releasing the specification, I just never followed up on it. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Jeromie Reeves wrote: Winbox runs under wine (mostly) fine. If you have Wine .44 then you must upgrade MT to 2.9.40 or better and to loader 2.2.11 It would not be to hard to replicate winbox natively for Linux, it would be the GUI that would be a issue. Has MT documented the winbox interface? Mmmm ideas. On 9/8/07, Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there would be two of us if MT made the Dude and Winbox run on native Linux. :-) Mac Dearman wrote: Butch, You crack head - - you don't use AV since UNIX/Linux MT doesn't require it. You are the only person I know who will buy a brand new (fine) laptop and at its first boot - drop in a disc, format and install UNIX over Windows!! You know you are a GEEK when no one makes a mail client with a GUI that you think is doable so you use PINE!! :) (The UNIX version is text user interface based-its message editor inspired the text editor Pico.) Signed, Anonymous from LA. (That's Los Angeles) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Jenco Wireless wrote: What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. No religious questions! :-) I've never really liked AVG personally, but it is not because of it's detection capability, but because it is pretty slow compared to others I've tried, at least with it's real time protection. Having said that, I like TrendMicro, Avast! and many others that are NOT Symantec or McAffee. I've used Avast for a long time on my personal machines and have never had a complaint. I highly recommend adding a realtime spyware scanner, too. I think Trend now has this in an all-in-one package. Main thing I can suggest is stay away from those that include the firewall as well. I think Trend has that option as well. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php
RE: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
We use and sell TrendMicro Officescan and Antivirus. It doesn't require ANY user interaction and just plain works in the background; we are a master service provider with Trend and have been extremely happy with the performance and pricing; granted this solution is geared more for commercial; however we do put some residential clients on it as well. Hit me off list if you want more or we can help. Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenco Wireless Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. Thanks, Brad H ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
I use AVG and Avast. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jenco Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:33 PM Subject: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. Thanks, Brad H ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Jenco Wireless wrote: What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. No religious questions! :-) I've never really liked AVG personally, but it is not because of it's detection capability, but because it is pretty slow compared to others I've tried, at least with it's real time protection. Having said that, I like TrendMicro, Avast! and many others that are NOT Symantec or McAffee. I've used Avast for a long time on my personal machines and have never had a complaint. I highly recommend adding a realtime spyware scanner, too. I think Trend now has this in an all-in-one package. Main thing I can suggest is stay away from those that include the firewall as well. I think Trend has that option as well. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
Butch, You crack head - - you don't use AV since UNIX/Linux MT doesn't require it. You are the only person I know who will buy a brand new (fine) laptop and at its first boot - drop in a disc, format and install UNIX over Windows!! You know you are a GEEK when no one makes a mail client with a GUI that you think is doable so you use PINE!! :) (The UNIX version is text user interface based-its message editor inspired the text editor Pico.) Signed, Anonymous from LA. (That's Los Angeles) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Jenco Wireless wrote: What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. No religious questions! :-) I've never really liked AVG personally, but it is not because of it's detection capability, but because it is pretty slow compared to others I've tried, at least with it's real time protection. Having said that, I like TrendMicro, Avast! and many others that are NOT Symantec or McAffee. I've used Avast for a long time on my personal machines and have never had a complaint. I highly recommend adding a realtime spyware scanner, too. I think Trend now has this in an all-in-one package. Main thing I can suggest is stay away from those that include the firewall as well. I think Trend has that option as well. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
God Mac, is Butch really that hooked? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:43 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware Butch, You crack head - - you don't use AV since UNIX/Linux MT doesn't require it. You are the only person I know who will buy a brand new (fine) laptop and at its first boot - drop in a disc, format and install UNIX over Windows!! You know you are a GEEK when no one makes a mail client with a GUI that you think is doable so you use PINE!! :) (The UNIX version is text user interface based-its message editor inspired the text editor Pico.) Signed, Anonymous from LA. (That's Los Angeles) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Jenco Wireless wrote: What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. No religious questions! :-) I've never really liked AVG personally, but it is not because of it's detection capability, but because it is pretty slow compared to others I've tried, at least with it's real time protection. Having said that, I like TrendMicro, Avast! and many others that are NOT Symantec or McAffee. I've used Avast for a long time on my personal machines and have never had a complaint. I highly recommend adding a realtime spyware scanner, too. I think Trend now has this in an all-in-one package. Main thing I can suggest is stay away from those that include the firewall as well. I think Trend has that option as well. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- - - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
Careful Mac, that could be considered an ad hominem attack! :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 1:43 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware Butch, You crack head - - you don't use AV since UNIX/Linux MT doesn't require it. You are the only person I know who will buy a brand new (fine) laptop and at its first boot - drop in a disc, format and install UNIX over Windows!! You know you are a GEEK when no one makes a mail client with a GUI that you think is doable so you use PINE!! :) (The UNIX version is text user interface based-its message editor inspired the text editor Pico.) Signed, Anonymous from LA. (That's Los Angeles) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Jenco Wireless wrote: What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. No religious questions! :-) I've never really liked AVG personally, but it is not because of it's detection capability, but because it is pretty slow compared to others I've tried, at least with it's real time protection. Having said that, I like TrendMicro, Avast! and many others that are NOT Symantec or McAffee. I've used Avast for a long time on my personal machines and have never had a complaint. I highly recommend adding a realtime spyware scanner, too. I think Trend now has this in an all-in-one package. Main thing I can suggest is stay away from those that include the firewall as well. I think Trend has that option as well. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- - - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- - - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- - - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
Real men use vi. Mac Dearman wrote: (The UNIX version is text user interface based-its message editor inspired the text editor Pico.) Signed, Anonymous from LA. (That's Los Angeles) ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
You mean they use echo On 9/8/07, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Real men use vi. Mac Dearman wrote: (The UNIX version is text user interface based-its message editor inspired the text editor Pico.) Signed, Anonymous from LA. (That's Los Angeles) ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
Nah. The One True Editor: emacs. Bob Jeromie Reeves wrote: You mean they use echo On 9/8/07, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Real men use vi. Mac Dearman wrote: (The UNIX version is text user interface based-its message editor inspired the text editor Pico.) Signed, Anonymous from LA. (That's Los Angeles) ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ begin:vcard fn:Bob Knight n:Knight;Bob email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:505.667.4300 tel;home:505.466.4548 tel;cell:505.310.8409 note:GUIs are a passing fad. version:2.1 end:vcard ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
Well, there would be two of us if MT made the Dude and Winbox run on native Linux. :-) Mac Dearman wrote: Butch, You crack head - - you don't use AV since UNIX/Linux MT doesn't require it. You are the only person I know who will buy a brand new (fine) laptop and at its first boot - drop in a disc, format and install UNIX over Windows!! You know you are a GEEK when no one makes a mail client with a GUI that you think is doable so you use PINE!! :) (The UNIX version is text user interface based-its message editor inspired the text editor Pico.) Signed, Anonymous from LA. (That's Los Angeles) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Jenco Wireless wrote: What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. No religious questions! :-) I've never really liked AVG personally, but it is not because of it's detection capability, but because it is pretty slow compared to others I've tried, at least with it's real time protection. Having said that, I like TrendMicro, Avast! and many others that are NOT Symantec or McAffee. I've used Avast for a long time on my personal machines and have never had a complaint. I highly recommend adding a realtime spyware scanner, too. I think Trend now has this in an all-in-one package. Main thing I can suggest is stay away from those that include the firewall as well. I think Trend has that option as well. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
Winbox runs under wine (mostly) fine. If you have Wine .44 then you must upgrade MT to 2.9.40 or better and to loader 2.2.11 It would not be to hard to replicate winbox natively for Linux, it would be the GUI that would be a issue. Has MT documented the winbox interface? Mmmm ideas. On 9/8/07, Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there would be two of us if MT made the Dude and Winbox run on native Linux. :-) Mac Dearman wrote: Butch, You crack head - - you don't use AV since UNIX/Linux MT doesn't require it. You are the only person I know who will buy a brand new (fine) laptop and at its first boot - drop in a disc, format and install UNIX over Windows!! You know you are a GEEK when no one makes a mail client with a GUI that you think is doable so you use PINE!! :) (The UNIX version is text user interface based-its message editor inspired the text editor Pico.) Signed, Anonymous from LA. (That's Los Angeles) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Jenco Wireless wrote: What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. No religious questions! :-) I've never really liked AVG personally, but it is not because of it's detection capability, but because it is pretty slow compared to others I've tried, at least with it's real time protection. Having said that, I like TrendMicro, Avast! and many others that are NOT Symantec or McAffee. I've used Avast for a long time on my personal machines and have never had a complaint. I highly recommend adding a realtime spyware scanner, too. I think Trend now has this in an all-in-one package. Main thing I can suggest is stay away from those that include the firewall as well. I think Trend has that option as well. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
Not to my knowledge. I asked Arnis about this at a couple of WISPCONs and he didn't seem averse to releasing the specification, I just never followed up on it. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Jeromie Reeves wrote: Winbox runs under wine (mostly) fine. If you have Wine .44 then you must upgrade MT to 2.9.40 or better and to loader 2.2.11 It would not be to hard to replicate winbox natively for Linux, it would be the GUI that would be a issue. Has MT documented the winbox interface? Mmmm ideas. On 9/8/07, Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there would be two of us if MT made the Dude and Winbox run on native Linux. :-) Mac Dearman wrote: Butch, You crack head - - you don't use AV since UNIX/Linux MT doesn't require it. You are the only person I know who will buy a brand new (fine) laptop and at its first boot - drop in a disc, format and install UNIX over Windows!! You know you are a GEEK when no one makes a mail client with a GUI that you think is doable so you use PINE!! :) (The UNIX version is text user interface based-its message editor inspired the text editor Pico.) Signed, Anonymous from LA. (That's Los Angeles) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Jenco Wireless wrote: What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. No religious questions! :-) I've never really liked AVG personally, but it is not because of it's detection capability, but because it is pretty slow compared to others I've tried, at least with it's real time protection. Having said that, I like TrendMicro, Avast! and many others that are NOT Symantec or McAffee. I've used Avast for a long time on my personal machines and have never had a complaint. I highly recommend adding a realtime spyware scanner, too. I think Trend now has this in an all-in-one package. Main thing I can suggest is stay away from those that include the firewall as well. I think Trend has that option as well. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
We've seen it miss a few things. And it lacks a firewall. We suggest PC Cillin from Trend Micro. And the gals at the office really like StopSign. marlon - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware On Fri, September 7, 2007 8:33 pm, Jenco Wireless wrote: What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. Just out of curiosity, any cites or details on this? We recommend AVG Free to our subscribers, and have AVG Professional on all the computers in the office, and have had no problems with it. (As long as it gets updated occasionally, but you have that problem with any AV package.) If AVG isn't playing well, I'd like to know about it, so I can look at the options (thin though they may be). David Smith MVN.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. Thanks, Brad H ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
Consumers Reports just rated them really low, plus I just heard a guy at a PC store talking about it in a bad way. I Googled Airship F4 (it's an RC toy) and one of the links on the first page turned out to be a porn site. I didn't even hardly check out the site ;-) but when i (finally ;-) went to leave it it wanted me to click OK to install something. Sorry for all the tech lingo. Anyway, it wouldn't let me exit the install window so I restarted my PC, when it came back up I had the old missing system file screen of death. Brad H On 9/7/07, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, September 7, 2007 8:33 pm, Jenco Wireless wrote: What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. Just out of curiosity, any cites or details on this? We recommend AVG Free to our subscribers, and have AVG Professional on all the computers in the office, and have had no problems with it. (As long as it gets updated occasionally, but you have that problem with any AV package.) If AVG isn't playing well, I'd like to know about it, so I can look at the options (thin though they may be). David Smith MVN.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
The highest rated software is NOD32 by _www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com) , compact-not bloated, good price, and available for small home systems as well large corporate systems. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
We've (20+) been fully clean under AVG for over 2 years. Those of us who venture where we shouldn't go (not me) get AVG warnings consistently but no infections. Consumer Report rated them low on features and options, not on protection (which was OK). You might look at your SPYWARE or elsewhere before assigning the problem to an AVG-bypassed virus. Anyway, I would be suspicious about other things before a failure in AVG. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenco Wireless Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware Consumers Reports just rated them really low, plus I just heard a guy at a PC store talking about it in a bad way. I Googled Airship F4 (it's an RC toy) and one of the links on the first page turned out to be a porn site. I didn't even hardly check out the site ;-) but when i (finally ;-) went to leave it it wanted me to click OK to install something. Sorry for all the tech lingo. Anyway, it wouldn't let me exit the install window so I restarted my PC, when it came back up I had the old missing system file screen of death. Brad H On 9/7/07, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, September 7, 2007 8:33 pm, Jenco Wireless wrote: What's everyone using now? I just got a nasty infection using AVG (fully updated). I guess AVG has not kept up well according to the reviews. Just out of curiosity, any cites or details on this? We recommend AVG Free to our subscribers, and have AVG Professional on all the computers in the office, and have had no problems with it. (As long as it gets updated occasionally, but you have that problem with any AV package.) If AVG isn't playing well, I'd like to know about it, so I can look at the options (thin though they may be). David Smith MVN.net -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AntiVirus Sortware
That's what we use and sell to our customers (including banks, insurance companies, etc.). Travis Microserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The highest rated software is NOD32 by _www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com) , compact-not bloated, good price, and available for small home systems as well large corporate systems. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
