Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software
SNMP would work if you just wanted to collect information about the AP's you are actually connected to. I don't think there is an OID for the scan feature, but I could be wrong. Anyone know? That is why I thought they might have some kind of tie in to the scan using the API. Cameron SNMP output from MT? On 8/29/09, ccrum cc...@dot11net.com wrote: This is typically called drive test software and there are many vendors of such...just not for wifi or similar technologies. Most of the commercial stuff is for collecting data on cellular networks. That being said, it shouldn't be too difficult to write a program to collect the serial data (see NMEA under google) from a GPS and throw it into a text file with the scan data from another program or device which you can get external output from. I'm not sure if the MT API allows you to collect scan data, but that's where I would start...anyone know? Cameron Cameron Kilton wrote: I'm very well aware that I will be doing this signal testing from the ground and I plan to due most if not all with 900mhz testing. I'm looking for a VERY rough mapping on real world testing. I've used other programs where you input radio data and it will estimate coverage, which is neat, but I want to be able to drive around using something like Delorm or Terrain Navigator and mark spots which I know where good signal with accurate GPS and input those into a Google Maps type system. So if such as system exists, please let me know what that system is... Thanks, Cam -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-) Thank You, Brian Webster Cameron Kilton wrote: I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy the site. The idea: Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. Thoughts Suggestions? -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software
This is typically called drive test software and there are many vendors of such...just not for wifi or similar technologies. Most of the commercial stuff is for collecting data on cellular networks. That being said, it shouldn't be too difficult to write a program to collect the serial data (see NMEA under google) from a GPS and throw it into a text file with the scan data from another program or device which you can get external output from. I'm not sure if the MT API allows you to collect scan data, but that's where I would start...anyone know? Cameron Cameron Kilton wrote: I'm very well aware that I will be doing this signal testing from the ground and I plan to due most if not all with 900mhz testing. I'm looking for a VERY rough mapping on real world testing. I've used other programs where you input radio data and it will estimate coverage, which is neat, but I want to be able to drive around using something like Delorm or Terrain Navigator and mark spots which I know where good signal with accurate GPS and input those into a Google Maps type system. So if such as system exists, please let me know what that system is... Thanks, Cam -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-) Thank You, Brian Webster Cameron Kilton wrote: I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy the site. The idea: Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. Thoughts Suggestions? -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software
SNMP output from MT? On 8/29/09, ccrum cc...@dot11net.com wrote: This is typically called drive test software and there are many vendors of such...just not for wifi or similar technologies. Most of the commercial stuff is for collecting data on cellular networks. That being said, it shouldn't be too difficult to write a program to collect the serial data (see NMEA under google) from a GPS and throw it into a text file with the scan data from another program or device which you can get external output from. I'm not sure if the MT API allows you to collect scan data, but that's where I would start...anyone know? Cameron Cameron Kilton wrote: I'm very well aware that I will be doing this signal testing from the ground and I plan to due most if not all with 900mhz testing. I'm looking for a VERY rough mapping on real world testing. I've used other programs where you input radio data and it will estimate coverage, which is neat, but I want to be able to drive around using something like Delorm or Terrain Navigator and mark spots which I know where good signal with accurate GPS and input those into a Google Maps type system. So if such as system exists, please let me know what that system is... Thanks, Cam -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-) Thank You, Brian Webster Cameron Kilton wrote: I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy the site. The idea: Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. Thoughts Suggestions? -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] GPS mapping software
I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy the site. The idea: Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. Thoughts Suggestions? -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software
I don't know what type of network you have deployed (are you serving laptops directly?) but your method should work OK if a) You do 2-way throughput testing to/from the mobile setup. b) You use a CPE that's the same as your normal CPE. c) You use an antenna that is equivalent to your normal CPE antenna. jack Cameron Kilton wrote: I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy the site. The idea: Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. Thoughts Suggestions? -Cameron -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Public Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software
It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-) Thank You, Brian Webster Cameron Kilton wrote: I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy the site. The idea: Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. Thoughts Suggestions? -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software
The biggest problem with your idea will be the fact you're on the ground - not going to work too well for 2.4 and 5.x. 900 will be better, but not ideal. The better part of what you're doing is if you see a -75 somewhere, then the houses adjacent are going to be greater to or equal! Starting out new the costs for everything - Brian's solution is significantly better. He offers it in Google Maps (great for show and tell) and Google Earth (great for installers/remote site surveys/etc). Both can be seen here: http://www.inxwireless.com/coverage.php Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-) Thank You, Brian Webster Cameron Kilton wrote: I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy the site. The idea: Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. Thoughts Suggestions? -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software
I'm very well aware that I will be doing this signal testing from the ground and I plan to due most if not all with 900mhz testing. I'm looking for a VERY rough mapping on real world testing. I've used other programs where you input radio data and it will estimate coverage, which is neat, but I want to be able to drive around using something like Delorm or Terrain Navigator and mark spots which I know where good signal with accurate GPS and input those into a Google Maps type system. So if such as system exists, please let me know what that system is... Thanks, Cam -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-) Thank You, Brian Webster Cameron Kilton wrote: I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy the site. The idea: Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. Thoughts Suggestions? -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/