Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-31 Thread ccrum
SNMP would work if you just wanted to collect information about the AP's
you are actually connected to. I don't think there is an OID for the
scan feature, but I could be wrong. Anyone know? That is why I thought
they might have some kind of tie in to the scan using the API.

Cameron

 SNMP output from MT?

 On 8/29/09, ccrum cc...@dot11net.com wrote:
 This is typically called drive test software and there are many
 vendors of such...just not for wifi or similar technologies. Most of the
 commercial stuff is for collecting data on cellular networks. That being
 said, it shouldn't be too difficult to write a program to collect the
 serial data (see NMEA under google) from a GPS and throw it into a text
 file with the scan data from another program or device which you can get
 external output from. I'm not sure if the MT API allows you to collect
 scan data, but that's where I would start...anyone know?

 Cameron

 Cameron Kilton wrote:
 I'm very well aware that I will be doing this signal testing from the
 ground and I plan to due most if not all with 900mhz testing. I'm
 looking for a VERY rough mapping on real world testing. I've used other
 programs where you input radio data and it will estimate coverage,
 which
 is neat, but I want to be able to drive around using something like
 Delorm or Terrain Navigator and mark spots which I know where good
 signal with accurate GPS and input those into a Google Maps type
 system.

 So if such as system exists, please let me know what that system is...

 Thanks,
 Cam

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Brian Webster
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

 It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and
 post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-)

 Thank You,
 Brian Webster



 Cameron Kilton wrote:

 I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able
 to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I

 deploy

 the site.

 The idea:

 Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with

 Laptop

 and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage.

 Thoughts  Suggestions?

 -Cameron





 
 

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Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-29 Thread ccrum
This is typically called drive test software and there are many 
vendors of such...just not for wifi or similar technologies. Most of the 
commercial stuff is for collecting data on cellular networks. That being 
said, it shouldn't be too difficult to write a program to collect the 
serial data (see NMEA under google) from a GPS and throw it into a text 
file with the scan data from another program or device which you can get 
external output from. I'm not sure if the MT API allows you to collect 
scan data, but that's where I would start...anyone know?

Cameron

Cameron Kilton wrote:
 I'm very well aware that I will be doing this signal testing from the
 ground and I plan to due most if not all with 900mhz testing. I'm
 looking for a VERY rough mapping on real world testing. I've used other
 programs where you input radio data and it will estimate coverage, which
 is neat, but I want to be able to drive around using something like
 Delorm or Terrain Navigator and mark spots which I know where good
 signal with accurate GPS and input those into a Google Maps type system.

 So if such as system exists, please let me know what that system is...

 Thanks,
 Cam

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Brian Webster
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

 It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and 
 post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-)

 Thank You,
 Brian Webster



 Cameron Kilton wrote:
   
 I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able
 to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I
 
 deploy
   
 the site.

 The idea:

 Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with
 
 Laptop
   
 and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. 

 Thoughts  Suggestions?

 -Cameron




 
 
 
   
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Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-29 Thread Josh Luthman
SNMP output from MT?

On 8/29/09, ccrum cc...@dot11net.com wrote:
 This is typically called drive test software and there are many
 vendors of such...just not for wifi or similar technologies. Most of the
 commercial stuff is for collecting data on cellular networks. That being
 said, it shouldn't be too difficult to write a program to collect the
 serial data (see NMEA under google) from a GPS and throw it into a text
 file with the scan data from another program or device which you can get
 external output from. I'm not sure if the MT API allows you to collect
 scan data, but that's where I would start...anyone know?

 Cameron

 Cameron Kilton wrote:
 I'm very well aware that I will be doing this signal testing from the
 ground and I plan to due most if not all with 900mhz testing. I'm
 looking for a VERY rough mapping on real world testing. I've used other
 programs where you input radio data and it will estimate coverage, which
 is neat, but I want to be able to drive around using something like
 Delorm or Terrain Navigator and mark spots which I know where good
 signal with accurate GPS and input those into a Google Maps type system.

 So if such as system exists, please let me know what that system is...

 Thanks,
 Cam

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Brian Webster
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

 It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and
 post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-)

 Thank You,
 Brian Webster



 Cameron Kilton wrote:

 I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able
 to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I

 deploy

 the site.

 The idea:

 Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with

 Laptop

 and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage.

 Thoughts  Suggestions?

 -Cameron





 
 

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[WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Cameron Kilton
I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able
to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy
the site.

The idea:

Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop
and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. 

Thoughts  Suggestions?

-Cameron




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Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Jack Unger
I don't know what type of network you have deployed (are you serving 
laptops directly?) but your method should work OK if

a) You do 2-way throughput testing to/from the mobile setup.

b) You use a CPE that's the same as your normal CPE.

c) You use an antenna that is equivalent to your normal CPE antenna.

jack


Cameron Kilton wrote:
 I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able
 to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy
 the site.

 The idea:

 Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop
 and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. 

 Thoughts  Suggestions?

 -Cameron

   
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Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Brian Webster
It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and 
post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-)

Thank You,
Brian Webster



Cameron Kilton wrote:
 I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able
 to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy
 the site.

 The idea:

 Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop
 and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. 

 Thoughts  Suggestions?

 -Cameron



 
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Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Josh Luthman
The biggest problem with your idea will be the fact you're on the ground -
not going to work too well for 2.4 and 5.x.  900 will be better, but not
ideal.

The better part of what you're doing is if you see a -75 somewhere, then the
houses adjacent are going to be greater to or equal!

Starting out new the costs for everything - Brian's solution is
significantly better.  He offers it in Google Maps (great for show and tell)
and Google Earth (great for installers/remote site surveys/etc).  Both can
be seen here:

http://www.inxwireless.com/coverage.php

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On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Brian Webster 
bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote:

 It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and
 post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-)

 Thank You,
 Brian Webster



 Cameron Kilton wrote:
  I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able
  to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy
  the site.
 
  The idea:
 
  Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop
  and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage.
 
  Thoughts  Suggestions?
 
  -Cameron
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Cameron Kilton
I'm very well aware that I will be doing this signal testing from the
ground and I plan to due most if not all with 900mhz testing. I'm
looking for a VERY rough mapping on real world testing. I've used other
programs where you input radio data and it will estimate coverage, which
is neat, but I want to be able to drive around using something like
Delorm or Terrain Navigator and mark spots which I know where good
signal with accurate GPS and input those into a Google Maps type system.

So if such as system exists, please let me know what that system is...

Thanks,
Cam

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and 
post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-)

Thank You,
Brian Webster



Cameron Kilton wrote:
 I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able
 to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I
deploy
 the site.

 The idea:

 Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with
Laptop
 and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage. 

 Thoughts  Suggestions?

 -Cameron






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