Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
Blake, This worked perfect. Anything using dst-nat was un-reliable as the browser would cache the page, So even since they were past the redirect part, The local machine would still load the same page for whatever site the person requested originally. However, using web-proxy it redirects the request perfectly. I appreciate all the help I got on this one. Thanks to everyone. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 5:09 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect How about this? /ip firewall nat add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 action=accept src-address-list=proxy-bypass add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=proxy-bypass address-list-timeout=1d add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 action=redirect to-ports=8080 /ip proxy set enabled=yes port=8080 /ip proxy access add dst-port=80 action=allow dst-host=www.hotel.tld add dst-port=80 action=deny redirect-to=www.hotel.tld If you're not using proxy for anything else then it works great. Although, it does not allow them to simply reload the page to reach the URL they initially intended. The user would have to issue a totally new request to see the content they desire. -- Blake Covarrubias Network Manager / IT Consultant Beamspeed, LLC On Jan 6, 2011, at 1:41 PM, David E. Smith wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 14:20, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can bypass it. The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really change at all. Could you do something crazy like put their site in an iframe? Have the parent page include their mandatory page, and a bit of JavaScript. That JavaScript has their MAC embedded in a link, using the same sort of link as the click to accept TOS link, which auto-refreshes after one second (thus logging them in as though they'd clicked that link themselves). Then add their page (and whatever other things it uses) to the walled-garden. Yes, this fails if they disable JavaScript, but it's a reasonable price to pay. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Hotel Redirect
We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it off. The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device one could think of. Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect. Bogus. Turned it off and the calls went away. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea. Cameron On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device someone was trying to use that wouldn’t go through the redirect, I turned it off. The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device one could think of. Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode wouldn’t allow the redirect. Bogus. Turned it off and the calls went away. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Hotel Redirect We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
You could also put in a link to the real hotel page and put that url in the walled garden so they can hit it no matter what, even on the first try. Cameron On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea. Cameron On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device someone was trying to use that wouldn’t go through the redirect, I turned it off. The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device one could think of. Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode wouldn’t allow the redirect. Bogus. Turned it off and the calls went away. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Hotel Redirect We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't redirect to the companies specific page. I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea. Cameron On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it off. The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device one could think of. Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect. Bogus. Turned it off and the calls went away. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
At the beginning it was a disclaimer page that the hotel operator wanted to have at the suggestion of his lawyer. Basically it would say It's free but everyone else is also on it and don't come crying to me if your computer or finances get all jacked up. The Patel wanted to try to make a buck and sell ad's on the splash page. But it's gone now. Thankfully. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea. Cameron On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it off. The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device one could think of. Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect. Bogus. Turned it off and the calls went away. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 Error! Filename not specified. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 13:31, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't redirect to the companies specific page. I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way. I'm doing something very similar to this. I just put the whole mandatory page on the Mikrotik box itself, and made the I agree to the TOS link into a silently log this MAC into the hotspot for 24 hours link. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
The problem that I was seeing was that there are many wireless devices now that don't have any screen to see a login button. Game systems being the first on my mind. In hotels, some guests bring their kids game system to keep them from running the halls.. How can you get these basically blind systems to punch through a page like that? I never had the time to get the workaround. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't redirect to the companies specific page. I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea. Cameron On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it off. The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device one could think of. Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect. Bogus. Turned it off and the calls went away. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 Error! Filename not specified. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 13:45, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: The problem that I was seeing was that there are many wireless devices now that don’t have any “screen” to see a login button. Game systems being the first on my mind. In hotels, some guests bring their kids game system to keep them from running the halls…… How can you get these basically blind systems to punch through a page like that? I suppose, in that case, you could keep a few wireless bridges around to lend to guests, with crossover cables, with their MACs already pre-authorized. (Might have to have it do NAT, so the AP only sees its MAC and not the MAC of the Xbox or whatever. Depends on the device.) Or get the system's MAC, but that adds a lot of extra complications (your hotel clerks now need to know how to get that information from every device ever made, and how to add the MAC to an ACL somewhere). David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
Possibly a simple screen the desk people can use to see what MAC ID is attempting to login and do a manual authorize? It's in my mind now That's a relief. Finally not thinking about where baby oil comes from.. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:46 PM To: n...@flhsi.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect The problem that I was seeing was that there are many wireless devices now that don't have any screen to see a login button. Game systems being the first on my mind. In hotels, some guests bring their kids game system to keep them from running the halls.. How can you get these basically blind systems to punch through a page like that? I never had the time to get the workaround. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't redirect to the companies specific page. I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea. Cameron On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it off. The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device one could think of. Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect. Bogus. Turned it off and the calls went away. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 Error! Filename not specified. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can bypass it. The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really change at all. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect Possibly a simple screen the desk people can use to see what MAC ID is attempting to login and do a manual authorize? It's in my mind now That's a relief. Finally not thinking about where baby oil comes from.. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:46 PM To: n...@flhsi.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect The problem that I was seeing was that there are many wireless devices now that don't have any screen to see a login button. Game systems being the first on my mind. In hotels, some guests bring their kids game system to keep them from running the halls.. How can you get these basically blind systems to punch through a page like that? I never had the time to get the workaround. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't redirect to the companies specific page. I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea. Cameron On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it off. The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device one could think of. Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect. Bogus. Turned it off and the calls went away. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 Error! Filename not specified. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
I hear ya, brother. I hear ya. These hotel higher ups need to get with the Now on this wireless. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can bypass it. The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really change at all. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect Possibly a simple screen the desk people can use to see what MAC ID is attempting to login and do a manual authorize? It's in my mind now That's a relief. Finally not thinking about where baby oil comes from.. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:46 PM To: n...@flhsi.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect The problem that I was seeing was that there are many wireless devices now that don't have any screen to see a login button. Game systems being the first on my mind. In hotels, some guests bring their kids game system to keep them from running the halls.. How can you get these basically blind systems to punch through a page like that? I never had the time to get the workaround. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't redirect to the companies specific page. I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea. Cameron On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it off. The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device one could think of. Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect. Bogus. Turned it off and the calls went away. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 Error! Filename not specified. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 14:20, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can bypass it. The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really change at all. Could you do something crazy like put their site in an iframe? Have the parent page include their mandatory page, and a bit of JavaScript. That JavaScript has their MAC embedded in a link, using the same sort of link as the click to accept TOS link, which auto-refreshes after one second (thus logging them in as though they'd clicked that link themselves). Then add their page (and whatever other things it uses) to the walled-garden. Yes, this fails if they disable JavaScript, but it's a reasonable price to pay. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
How about this? /ip firewall nat add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 action=accept src-address-list=proxy-bypass add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=proxy-bypass address-list-timeout=1d add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 action=redirect to-ports=8080 /ip proxy set enabled=yes port=8080 /ip proxy access add dst-port=80 action=allow dst-host=www.hotel.tld add dst-port=80 action=deny redirect-to=www.hotel.tld If you're not using proxy for anything else then it works great. Although, it does not allow them to simply reload the page to reach the URL they initially intended. The user would have to issue a totally new request to see the content they desire. -- Blake Covarrubias Network Manager / IT Consultant Beamspeed, LLC On Jan 6, 2011, at 1:41 PM, David E. Smith wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 14:20, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can bypass it. The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really change at all. Could you do something crazy like put their site in an iframe? Have the parent page include their mandatory page, and a bit of JavaScript. That JavaScript has their MAC embedded in a link, using the same sort of link as the click to accept TOS link, which auto-refreshes after one second (thus logging them in as though they'd clicked that link themselves). Then add their page (and whatever other things it uses) to the walled-garden. Yes, this fails if they disable JavaScript, but it's a reasonable price to pay. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
Would something like this work? If you used a large enough pool of IPs. DHCP with a 24 hour expire time. Then basically: 1) src-address-list=SEEN and out-interface=INTERNET passthrough=no action=accept 2) action=add-to-address-list address-list=SEEN address-list-timeout=24h passthrough=yes 3) redirect So the first time through it doesn't match the accept in rule 1), instead it gets added to the address list (rule 2) and redirected (rule 3). Then all subsequent traffic for the next 24hours matches the first rule and is accepted by rule 1. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless On 1/6/11 2:41 PM, David E. Smith wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 14:20, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com mailto:n...@flhsi.com wrote: Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can bypass it. The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really change at all. Could you do something crazy like put their site in an iframe? Have the parent page include their mandatory page, and a bit of JavaScript. That JavaScript has their MAC embedded in a link, using the same sort of link as the click to accept TOS link, which auto-refreshes after one second (thus logging them in as though they'd clicked that link themselves). Then add their page (and whatever other things it uses) to the walled-garden. Yes, this fails if they disable JavaScript, but it's a reasonable price to pay. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
