Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-17 Thread Scott Lambert
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:36:52PM -0700, Mark Nash wrote:
 I hope to have a resolution soon, or we will be switching 1000+ users 
 to another provider.  Anyone who's done that knows the undertaking it 
 will be, but we will do it nevertheless.  

Moving the mailboxes is not so bad.  Getting the webmail address books,
that's the fun part.

We just moved 400 accounts, from a recently aquired domain, off
everyone.net to our servers.  I have an shell script which uses imapsync
which does the e-mail part quite nicely, imap server to imap server.  We
use Cyrus-IMAPd, but it shouldn't matter much which imap server you run.

The address books will take some manual effort.  But, you can print
each address book from everyone.net's fancy webmail view, copy and paste
it into a text file and run a script to convert it into whatever format
you need.  We shoved it into the squirrelmail address book database.

It just takes a lot of hours to log in and do the copy and paste.

If you decide you need to do it and want the scripts, let me know.  I'll
see if I can abstract out the sensitive information.

-- 
Scott LambertKC5MLE   Unix SysAdmin
lamb...@lambertfam.org




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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-17 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Yes, address books.  They are a pain.

We migrated about 900 accounts TO the Everyone.Net servers last year.  From 
2 very different mail servers, about 40 domains.

Address books were a pain in the rear.

Then there was the 2 users that were actually using the Calendar feature of 
one of the servers.  We told them sorry, it's gone. ;)


- Original Message - 
From: Scott Lambert lamb...@lambertfam.org
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:36:52PM -0700, Mark Nash wrote:
 I hope to have a resolution soon, or we will be switching 1000+ users
 to another provider.  Anyone who's done that knows the undertaking it
 will be, but we will do it nevertheless.

 Moving the mailboxes is not so bad.  Getting the webmail address books,
 that's the fun part.

 We just moved 400 accounts, from a recently aquired domain, off
 everyone.net to our servers.  I have an shell script which uses imapsync
 which does the e-mail part quite nicely, imap server to imap server.  We
 use Cyrus-IMAPd, but it shouldn't matter much which imap server you run.

 The address books will take some manual effort.  But, you can print
 each address book from everyone.net's fancy webmail view, copy and paste
 it into a text file and run a script to convert it into whatever format
 you need.  We shoved it into the squirrelmail address book database.

 It just takes a lot of hours to log in and do the copy and paste.

 If you decide you need to do it and want the scripts, let me know.  I'll
 see if I can abstract out the sensitive information.

 -- 
 Scott LambertKC5MLE   Unix 
 SysAdmin
 lamb...@lambertfam.org



 
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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-16 Thread Mark Nash
These problems happen throughout the day, not just during their maintenance 
window.  They have made us give them extensive information about the problem 
we and our customers have been having.  I hope to have a resolution soon, or 
we will be switching 1000+ users to another provider.  Anyone who's done 
that knows the undertaking it will be, but we will do it nevertheless. 
Right now our customers, not knowing any better, perceive this to be a 
problem with our INTERNET connections.  That's bad.

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
1702 W. 2nd Ave
Suite A
Eugene, OR 97402
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


I seem to remember that they sent out an email saying that they were
 going to have maintenance.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:21 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

 We have been having alot of problems sending email through
 Everyone.Net's servers.  Lots of server rejections, delivery resource
 unavailable type messages.

 Anyone going through the same problems?

 Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning.
 This message outlines our problems with them.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Justin Mann
 To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West
 Cc: Mark Nash
 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM
 Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


 Hello,

 We are getting more Delivery Resource Unavailable errors from the
 Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and
 shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we
 have issues sending email intermittently.

 I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers;  the
 error message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an
 SMTP session has been established. See the attached image; that is the
 error message coming from Everyone.net's servers.

 We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare
 earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very
 difficult to do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So
 far, all suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We
 have exhausted all potential options on our ends for reasons that we
 could be causing the errors. We have used different workstations,
 different operating systems, different mail clients, different ISPs,
 different email domains. We have even used different SMTP servers per
 your suggestion.

 When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever.
 However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please
 look at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get,
 frequently, with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2.






 
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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-16 Thread Anthony
FYI, I also use everyone.net and we are not experiencing this issue.

Anthony Will
Broadband Corp.

Mark Nash wrote:
 These problems happen throughout the day, not just during their maintenance 
 window.  They have made us give them extensive information about the problem 
 we and our customers have been having.  I hope to have a resolution soon, or 
 we will be switching 1000+ users to another provider.  Anyone who's done 
 that knows the undertaking it will be, but we will do it nevertheless. 
 Right now our customers, not knowing any better, perceive this to be a 
 problem with our INTERNET connections.  That's bad.

 Mark Nash
 UnwiredWest
 1702 W. 2nd Ave
 Suite A
 Eugene, OR 97402
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 http://www.unwiredwest.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


   
 I seem to remember that they sent out an email saying that they were
 going to have maintenance.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:21 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

 We have been having alot of problems sending email through
 Everyone.Net's servers.  Lots of server rejections, delivery resource
 unavailable type messages.

 Anyone going through the same problems?

 Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning.
 This message outlines our problems with them.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Justin Mann
 To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West
 Cc: Mark Nash
 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM
 Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


 Hello,

 We are getting more Delivery Resource Unavailable errors from the
 Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and
 shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we
 have issues sending email intermittently.

 I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers;  the
 error message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an
 SMTP session has been established. See the attached image; that is the
 error message coming from Everyone.net's servers.

 We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare
 earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very
 difficult to do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So
 far, all suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We
 have exhausted all potential options on our ends for reasons that we
 could be causing the errors. We have used different workstations,
 different operating systems, different mail clients, different ISPs,
 different email domains. We have even used different SMTP servers per
 your suggestion.

 When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever.
 However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please
 look at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get,
 frequently, with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2.






 
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[WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-14 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
We have been having alot of problems sending email through Everyone.Net's 
servers.  Lots of server rejections, delivery resource unavailable type 
messages.

Anyone going through the same problems?

Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning.  This 
message outlines our problems with them.

- Original Message - 
From: Justin Mann 
To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West 
Cc: Mark Nash 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM
Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


Hello,

We are getting more Delivery Resource Unavailable errors from the 
Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and shared-svc2. 
We would like help on why this is happening, and why we have issues sending 
email intermittently.

I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers;  the error 
message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an SMTP session 
has been established. See the attached image; that is the error message coming 
from Everyone.net's servers. 

We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare earlier 
in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very difficult to do 
business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So far, all suggestions 
given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We have exhausted all potential 
options on our ends for reasons that we could be causing the errors. We have 
used different workstations, different operating systems, different mail 
clients, different ISPs, different email domains. We have even used different 
SMTP servers per your suggestion.

When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever. 
However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please look at 
the attached image. This is the type of error message we get, frequently, with 
both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. 




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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-14 Thread Stuart Pierce
Good luck getting a response. The problems we have with them is I think they 
are using an outdated spam database

-- Original Message --
From: Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 14 May 2010 10:20:59 -0700

We have been having alot of problems sending email through Everyone.Net's 
servers.  Lots of server rejections, delivery resource unavailable type 
messages.

Anyone going through the same problems?

Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning.  This 
message outlines our problems with them.

- Original Message - 
From: Justin Mann 
To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West 
Cc: Mark Nash 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM
Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


Hello,

We are getting more Delivery Resource Unavailable errors from the 
Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and shared-svc2. 
We would like help on why this is happening, and why we have issues sending 
email intermittently.

I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers;  the error 
message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an SMTP session 
has been established. See the attached image; that is the error message coming 
from Everyone.net's servers. 

We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare earlier 
in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very difficult to do 
business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So far, all suggestions 
given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We have exhausted all potential 
options on our ends for reasons that we could be causing the errors. We have 
used different workstations, different operating systems, different mail 
clients, different ISPs, different email domains. We have even used different 
SMTP servers per your suggestion.

When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever. 
However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please look at 
the attached image. This is the type of error message we get, frequently, with 
both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. 






 





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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-14 Thread Chuck Profito
yesterday we had a problem with them,  No an issue, the customer had her
machine date set on month in the future, thus the spam filter was rejecting
all her sent mail.  This also seemed to happen to many xp machines after
tuesdays MS up date. They had to reset the date, and if they set it
wrong

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

We have been having alot of problems sending email through Everyone.Net's
servers.  Lots of server rejections, delivery resource unavailable type
messages.

Anyone going through the same problems?

Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning.  This
message outlines our problems with them.

- Original Message - 
From: Justin Mann 
To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West 
Cc: Mark Nash 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM
Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


Hello,

We are getting more Delivery Resource Unavailable errors from the
Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and
shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we have
issues sending email intermittently.

I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers;  the error
message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an SMTP session
has been established. See the attached image; that is the error message
coming from Everyone.net's servers. 

We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare
earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very difficult to
do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So far, all
suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We have exhausted
all potential options on our ends for reasons that we could be causing the
errors. We have used different workstations, different operating systems,
different mail clients, different ISPs, different email domains. We have
even used different SMTP servers per your suggestion.

When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever.
However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please look
at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get, frequently,
with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. 








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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
I seem to remember that they sent out an email saying that they were
going to have maintenance.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

We have been having alot of problems sending email through
Everyone.Net's servers.  Lots of server rejections, delivery resource
unavailable type messages.

Anyone going through the same problems?

Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning.
This message outlines our problems with them.

- Original Message - 
From: Justin Mann 
To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West 
Cc: Mark Nash 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM
Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


Hello,

We are getting more Delivery Resource Unavailable errors from the
Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and
shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we
have issues sending email intermittently.

I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers;  the
error message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an
SMTP session has been established. See the attached image; that is the
error message coming from Everyone.net's servers. 

We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare
earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very
difficult to do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So
far, all suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We
have exhausted all potential options on our ends for reasons that we
could be causing the errors. We have used different workstations,
different operating systems, different mail clients, different ISPs,
different email domains. We have even used different SMTP servers per
your suggestion.

When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever.
However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please
look at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get,
frequently, with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. 







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