Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting
Forgot to mention...the MUM presentations are usually online. Both historically and live (forget the link, just look at the Facebook/Twitter when the even comes around). http://tiktube.com/?video=354 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 00:29 -0500, Cameron Crum wrote: While not really a training event, I've been to every US MUM in the last 4 years and always found it productive and informative. 100% agreement from me. I'd personally put it on par with last weeks Wispa Regional in StLouis. I agree from the perspective of quality. In terms of usefulness, however, keep in mind that it has a much narrower focus (as you point out). I guess if you are not a MT user/fan then you are wasting your time, but otherwise, it is a good thing. While the MUM is pretty Mikrotik specific, there are often topics that would be of general interest, too. For the most part, you are right, though... -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting
Paul, I would suggest using a WISPA vendor member for your training needs. www.linktechs.net is a vendor member and provides Mikrotik certification training. WISPA vendor members help in providing financial support for WISPA and it's efforts in promoting our industry. You can find a list of other WISPA vendor members at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=131 Jim On 7/28/2010 11:41 AM, Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 09:24 -0700, Paul Gerstenberger wrote: Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far it's working well, be nice to have a little official training though. I have a training class scheduled for next week (see http://store.wispgear.net/ for details). Mikrotik's official training (from the reviews I've seen) don't get very good reviews, due to the difficulty people have in understanding what they are saying... As for the MUM, they are generally pretty good shows. I've never heard anyone say they were disappointed for having attended. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting
While not really a training event, I've been to every US MUM in the last 4 years and always found it productive and informative. I'd personally put it on par with last weeks Wispa Regional in StLouis. The ones I've been to were about the same in size and while the topics were not as diverse, I certainly learned quite a bit. I guess if you are not a MT user/fan then you are wasting your time, but otherwise, it is a good thing. Cameron On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote: Paul, I would suggest using a WISPA vendor member for your training needs. www.linktechs.net is a vendor member and provides Mikrotik certification training. WISPA vendor members help in providing financial support for WISPA and it's efforts in promoting our industry. You can find a list of other WISPA vendor members at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=131 Jim On 7/28/2010 11:41 AM, Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 09:24 -0700, Paul Gerstenberger wrote: Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far it's working well, be nice to have a little official training though. I have a training class scheduled for next week (see http://store.wispgear.net/ for details). Mikrotik's official training (from the reviews I've seen) don't get very good reviews, due to the difficulty people have in understanding what they are saying... As for the MUM, they are generally pretty good shows. I've never heard anyone say they were disappointed for having attended. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 00:29 -0500, Cameron Crum wrote: While not really a training event, I've been to every US MUM in the last 4 years and always found it productive and informative. 100% agreement from me. I'd personally put it on par with last weeks Wispa Regional in StLouis. I agree from the perspective of quality. In terms of usefulness, however, keep in mind that it has a much narrower focus (as you point out). I guess if you are not a MT user/fan then you are wasting your time, but otherwise, it is a good thing. While the MUM is pretty Mikrotik specific, there are often topics that would be of general interest, too. For the most part, you are right, though... -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting
Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far it's working well, be nice to have a little official training though. -Paul WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting
MUM is not for training. MUM is similar to Animal Farm if you've been there. It's more of a trade show and has a few presentations on how some people use Mikrotik. If you want training I'd suggest Butch Evans' classes. I found the basic class to be very informative even knowing quite a bit of the material. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coopwrote: Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far it's working well, be nice to have a little official training though. -Paul WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 09:24 -0700, Paul Gerstenberger wrote: Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far it's working well, be nice to have a little official training though. I have a training class scheduled for next week (see http://store.wispgear.net/ for details). Mikrotik's official training (from the reviews I've seen) don't get very good reviews, due to the difficulty people have in understanding what they are saying... As for the MUM, they are generally pretty good shows. I've never heard anyone say they were disappointed for having attended. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting
I also wanted a plane ticket to Phoenix, hoping I could justify it. -Paul On Jul 28, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: MUM is not for training. MUM is similar to Animal Farm if you've been there. It's more of a trade show and has a few presentations on how some people use Mikrotik. If you want training I'd suggest Butch Evans' classes. I found the basic class to be very informative even knowing quite a bit of the material. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop wrote: Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far it's working well, be nice to have a little official training though. -Paul WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting
MUM is not for training, but MT is offering several courses the same week as MUM. I think at the same venue. I went to MUM Dallas last year. It is worth while. Though not for training, I did learn a lot. There were several presentations on new things and there were presentations on new ways to use the old things. I also was able to meet a bunch of folks from the maillists I participate in. Though I was not able to make the WISPA event in St Louis, from what I heard there was a lot more going on there than at a MUM. Still for the price, I did find it worthwhile and hope to attend again this year. Josh Luthman wrote: MUM is not for training. MUM is similar to Animal Farm if you've been there. It's more of a trade show and has a few presentations on how some people use Mikrotik. If you want training I'd suggest Butch Evans' classes. I found the basic class to be very informative even knowing quite a bit of the material. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop mailto:pa...@hrec.coop wrote: Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far it's working well, be nice to have a little official training though. -Paul WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting
The MUM is one of those yoy get what you pay for. Genrally you get enough out of it to justify going. Butch is correct in the training. The heavy accents can be a problem. A buddy of mine took their training in Chicago and found it difficult to communicate his questions correctly so they would understand. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com Organization: Butch Evans Consulting Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:41:30 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 09:24 -0700, Paul Gerstenberger wrote: Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far it's working well, be nice to have a little official training though. I have a training class scheduled for next week (see http://store.wispgear.net/ for details). Mikrotik's official training (from the reviews I've seen) don't get very good reviews, due to the difficulty people have in understanding what they are saying... As for the MUM, they are generally pretty good shows. I've never heard anyone say they were disappointed for having attended. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
