Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Our 2282 runs Dual Quad Core's without issues. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Dennis, Does Mikrotik adequately take advantage of Quad Core yet? And the XEON 5000series AT-I/O equivellent features for distributing NICs equally across processors? Or I recognize some NIC drivers support that (processor per NIC distribution) without 5000series ATIO features. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Josh, I would recommend that you go with something that is on Mikrotik's Hardware Compatibly list. Here is the link: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Supported_Hardware#x86_Systems -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Oh wow - the PoweRouter is $1400 now!!! Ouch! Not sure what Butch's router costs... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the PowerRouter? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The key differences is the x86 is, IMO, more trustworthy but definitely handles more capacity. I use the PoweRouter 732 with a CF card on ROS 3.13. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have several rb1000 , need something with ports and must trustable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Scott Carullosc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire speed these days Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com char...@thewybles.com wrote: Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valentivale...@lir.msu.edu vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Dennis - can you tell us what versions you have tested working? On 7/30/09, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Our 2282 runs Dual Quad Core's without issues. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Dennis, Does Mikrotik adequately take advantage of Quad Core yet? And the XEON 5000series AT-I/O equivellent features for distributing NICs equally across processors? Or I recognize some NIC drivers support that (processor per NIC distribution) without 5000series ATIO features. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Josh, I would recommend that you go with something that is on Mikrotik's Hardware Compatibly list. Here is the link: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Supported_Hardware#x86_Systems -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Oh wow - the PoweRouter is $1400 now!!! Ouch! Not sure what Butch's router costs... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the PowerRouter? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The key differences is the x86 is, IMO, more trustworthy but definitely handles more capacity. I use the PoweRouter 732 with a CF card on ROS 3.13. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have several rb1000 , need something with ports and must trustable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Scott Carullosc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire speed these days Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com char...@thewybles.com wrote: Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valentivale...@lir.msu.edu vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
The PowerRouter 2282 has been tested and is running on a number of systems with version 3.27 without issues. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 1:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Dennis - can you tell us what versions you have tested working? On 7/30/09, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Our 2282 runs Dual Quad Core's without issues. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Dennis, Does Mikrotik adequately take advantage of Quad Core yet? And the XEON 5000series AT-I/O equivellent features for distributing NICs equally across processors? Or I recognize some NIC drivers support that (processor per NIC distribution) without 5000series ATIO features. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Josh, I would recommend that you go with something that is on Mikrotik's Hardware Compatibly list. Here is the link: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Supported_Hardware#x86_Systems -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Oh wow - the PoweRouter is $1400 now!!! Ouch! Not sure what Butch's router costs... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the PowerRouter? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The key differences is the x86 is, IMO, more trustworthy but definitely handles more capacity. I use the PoweRouter 732 with a CF card on ROS 3.13. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have several rb1000 , need something with ports and must trustable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Scott Carullosc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Why not just use a routerboard in the first
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Hey Randy, Any joy with testing ROS on one of these? Would be interesting to see how it stacks up against the RB1000's or the original PoweRouter. P. Randy Cosby wrote: I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting RouterOS on it to test drive. Randy Josh Luthman wrote: I could have sworn it did...but looking at it again it definitely does not. I specifically remember looking for that too... Ignore my initial post! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB, SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a second ethernet to this version. If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet or VLAN. Is routing via VLAN common? I have heard of one-armed routers, but didn't think they were too common. On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Dennis, Does Mikrotik adequately take advantage of Quad Core yet? And the XEON 5000series AT-I/O equivellent features for distributing NICs equally across processors? Or I recognize some NIC drivers support that (processor per NIC distribution) without 5000series ATIO features. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Josh, I would recommend that you go with something that is on Mikrotik's Hardware Compatibly list. Here is the link: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Supported_Hardware#x86_Systems -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Oh wow - the PoweRouter is $1400 now!!! Ouch! Not sure what Butch's router costs... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the PowerRouter? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The key differences is the x86 is, IMO, more trustworthy but definitely handles more capacity. I use the PoweRouter 732 with a CF card on ROS 3.13. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have several rb1000 , need something with ports and must trustable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Scott Carullosc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire speed these days Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com char...@thewybles.com wrote: Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valentivale...@lir.msu.edu vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org
[WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm?typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Ballpark price? $200? $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm?typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Not rackmountable, no pci-e slot, no expansion , no atom 330, msi grade (cheap) Supermicro makes great motherboards, Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ballpark price? $200? $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm?typ= H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Google searches indicate $300. if the RTL8111C-GR ethernet work well with routerOS, then it's a good little system. It'd also make a pretty nice little server if CPU needs aren't extreme, you don't need 64bit, or virtualization. It's probably pretty easy on the power bill. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 04:30:25PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: Ballpark price? $200? $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm?typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
I am sure that MT will support the RT* chipsets - it is Linux after all. From my experience Linux supports every NIC and better then Windows. Anyone from the 3com 905a or b Win98 era? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: Google searches indicate $300. if the RTL8111C-GR ethernet work well with routerOS, then it's a good little system. It'd also make a pretty nice little server if CPU needs aren't extreme, you don't need 64bit, or virtualization. It's probably pretty easy on the power bill. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 04:30:25PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: Ballpark price? $200? $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm?typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Gino, I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max RAM ( VMware). And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC power supply). Could you compare it to: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard?sc=8category=1178 Apart from being single core and out of stock, this one takes 12V power. Mini-Box sells a small case that will wall mount or snap into DIN rail. Maybe $200 for all the parts. I was thinking of using these at some tower sites. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm? typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Josh Luthman wrote: I am sure that MT will support the RT* chipsets - it is Linux after all. From my experience Linux supports every NIC and better then Windows. Anyone from the 3com 905a or b Win98 era? I had so succesfully blocked those memories until today. Bad Josh! :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
I do apologize. Just realize Linux did not have this problem and those cards are so abundant. Made me some serious bandwidth servers for cheap at LAN parties... On 7/28/09, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com wrote: Josh Luthman wrote: I am sure that MT will support the RT* chipsets - it is Linux after all. From my experience Linux supports every NIC and better then Windows. Anyone from the 3com 905a or b Win98 era? I had so succesfully blocked those memories until today. Bad Josh! :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Josh Luthman wrote: I do apologize. Haha. :) Just realize Linux did not have this problem and those cards are so abundant. Oh I know. I'm well aware of that. :) Linux is awesome. I absolutely love it. Made me some serious bandwidth servers for cheap at LAN parties... Yes it did. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Right, depends on your application. FFR Vlan is layer 2, routing is 3 :P On 7/28/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max RAM ( VMware). And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC power supply). Could you compare it to: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard?sc=8category=1178 Apart from being single core and out of stock, this one takes 12V power. Mini-Box sells a small case that will wall mount or snap into DIN rail. Maybe $200 for all the parts. I was thinking of using these at some tower sites. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm? typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB, SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a second ethernet to this version. If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet or VLAN. Is routing via VLAN common? I have heard of one-armed routers, but didn't think they were too common. On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
I could have sworn it did...but looking at it again it definitely does not. I specifically remember looking for that too... Ignore my initial post! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB, SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a second ethernet to this version. If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet or VLAN. Is routing via VLAN common? I have heard of one-armed routers, but didn't think they were too common. On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Gino, How many ports? What have you found for PCIe ethernet? A quick look at Newegg for 4 ports only shows Intel, at $400. So the ethernet card costs more than the server. If you stick with PCI (other Atom motherboards) you can use the cheaper Mikrotik 4port gigE (~$90). Total build cost might be less. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max RAM ( VMware). And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC power supply). Could you compare it to: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard?sc=8category=1178 Apart from being single core and out of stock, this one takes 12V power. Mini-Box sells a small case that will wall mount or snap into DIN rail. Maybe $200 for all the parts. I was thinking of using these at some tower sites. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm? typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting RouterOS on it to test drive. Randy Josh Luthman wrote: I could have sworn it did...but looking at it again it definitely does not. I specifically remember looking for that too... Ignore my initial post! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB, SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a second ethernet to this version. If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet or VLAN. Is routing via VLAN common? I have heard of one-armed routers, but didn't think they were too common. On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire speed these days Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com wrote: Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Ros does not support atom Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, How many ports? What have you found for PCIe ethernet? A quick look at Newegg for 4 ports only shows Intel, at $400. So the ethernet card costs more than the server. If you stick with PCI (other Atom motherboards) you can use the cheaper Mikrotik 4port gigE (~$90). Total build cost might be less. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max RAM ( VMware). And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC power supply). Could you compare it to: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard?sc=8category=1178 Apart from being single core and out of stock, this one takes 12V power. Mini-Box sells a small case that will wall mount or snap into DIN rail. Maybe $200 for all the parts. I was thinking of using these at some tower sites. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm? typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Supermicros get along great with ros Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting RouterOS on it to test drive. Randy Josh Luthman wrote: I could have sworn it did...but looking at it again it definitely does not. I specifically remember looking for that too... Ignore my initial post! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB, SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a second ethernet to this version. If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet or VLAN. Is routing via VLAN common? I have heard of one-armed routers, but didn't think they were too common. On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
RB1000 is $700 - I have always viewed Routerboards as expendable. $700 seems too much for an expendable motherboard. You can buy a really nice Intel Core Duo with loads more horsepower for the same price from Butch/PoweRouter. Don't get me wrong - Routerboards are great, but for something at the tower sites I want it to be worthwhile and I think Gino's suggestion (or something comparable) is the best idea. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote: Supermicros get along great with ros Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting RouterOS on it to test drive. Randy Josh Luthman wrote: I could have sworn it did...but looking at it again it definitely does not. I specifically remember looking for that too... Ignore my initial post! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB, SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a second ethernet to this version. If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet or VLAN. Is routing via VLAN common? I have heard of one-armed routers, but didn't think they were too common. On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
I wasn't suggesting a rb1000, what about a rb450g or 493ah? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: RB1000 is $700 - I have always viewed Routerboards as expendable. $700 seems too much for an expendable motherboard. You can buy a really nice Intel Core Duo with loads more horsepower for the same price from Butch/PoweRouter. Don't get me wrong - Routerboards are great, but for something at the tower sites I want it to be worthwhile and I think Gino's suggestion (or something comparable) is the best idea. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Supermicros get along great with ros Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting RouterOS on it to test drive. Randy Josh Luthman wrote: I could have sworn it did...but looking at it again it definitely does not. I specifically remember looking for that too... Ignore my initial post! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB, SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a second ethernet to this version. If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet or VLAN. Is routing via VLAN common? I have heard of one-armed routers, but didn't think they were too common. On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
I use a 493ah for my tower sites, but all they do is bridge. The config could be done in two seconds - new bridge, add all ports to the bridge. I was thinking if someone is needing an Atom CPU they need more horsepower. I guess it really depends on what you expect out of the router... On 7/28/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I wasn't suggesting a rb1000, what about a rb450g or 493ah? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: RB1000 is $700 - I have always viewed Routerboards as expendable. $700 seems too much for an expendable motherboard. You can buy a really nice Intel Core Duo with loads more horsepower for the same price from Butch/PoweRouter. Don't get me wrong - Routerboards are great, but for something at the tower sites I want it to be worthwhile and I think Gino's suggestion (or something comparable) is the best idea. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Supermicros get along great with ros Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting RouterOS on it to test drive. Randy Josh Luthman wrote: I could have sworn it did...but looking at it again it definitely does not. I specifically remember looking for that too... Ignore my initial post! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB, SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a second ethernet to this version. If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet or VLAN. Is routing via VLAN common? I have heard of one-armed routers, but didn't think they were too common. On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You!
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Well, the 493ah can route 100mb no problem so unless you need to go faster over a single radio link out it should be fine. Actually it routes faster than it bridges I believe... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I use a 493ah for my tower sites, but all they do is bridge. The config could be done in two seconds - new bridge, add all ports to the bridge. I was thinking if someone is needing an Atom CPU they need more horsepower. I guess it really depends on what you expect out of the router... On 7/28/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I wasn't suggesting a rb1000, what about a rb450g or 493ah? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: RB1000 is $700 - I have always viewed Routerboards as expendable. $700 seems too much for an expendable motherboard. You can buy a really nice Intel Core Duo with loads more horsepower for the same price from Butch/PoweRouter. Don't get me wrong - Routerboards are great, but for something at the tower sites I want it to be worthwhile and I think Gino's suggestion (or something comparable) is the best idea. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Supermicros get along great with ros Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting RouterOS on it to test drive. Randy Josh Luthman wrote: I could have sworn it did...but looking at it again it definitely does not. I specifically remember looking for that too... Ignore my initial post! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB, SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a second ethernet to this version. If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet or VLAN. Is routing via VLAN common? I have heard of one-armed routers, but didn't think they were too common. On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman --- --- --- --- --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- ---
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the PowerRouter? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The key differences is the x86 is, IMO, more trustworthy but definitely handles more capacity. I use the PoweRouter 732 with a CF card on ROS 3.13. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have several rb1000 , need something with ports and must trustable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:51 PM, "Scott Carullo" sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire speed these days Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com wrote: Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Well the subject included "POP router". Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Oh wow - the PoweRouter is $1400 now!!! Ouch! Not sure what Butch's router costs... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the PowerRouter? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The key differences is the x86 is, IMO, more trustworthy but definitely handles more capacity. I use the PoweRouter 732 with a CF card on ROS 3.13. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have several rb1000 , need something with ports and must trustable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Scott Carullosc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire speed these days Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com char...@thewybles.com wrote: Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valentivale...@lir.msu.edu vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Yes, but you don't get the expansion capabilities, no fiber options, no extra Ethernet port options, and no hard drive options. J Not to mention no USB ports.. the 1000 is a great product, just comes up short on Ports sometimes. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the PowerRouter? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The key differences is the x86 is, IMO, more trustworthy but definitely handles more capacity. I use the PoweRouter 732 with a CF card on ROS 3.13. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have several rb1000 , need something with ports and must trustable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire speed these days Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com mailto:char...@thewybles.com wrote: Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu mailto:vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Josh, I would recommend that you go with something that is on Mikrotik's Hardware Compatibly list. Here is the link: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Supported_Hardware#x86_Systems -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Oh wow - the PoweRouter is $1400 now!!! Ouch! Not sure what Butch's router costs... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the PowerRouter? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The key differences is the x86 is, IMO, more trustworthy but definitely handles more capacity. I use the PoweRouter 732 with a CF card on ROS 3.13. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have several rb1000 , need something with ports and must trustable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Scott Carullosc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire speed these days Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com char...@thewybles.com wrote: Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valentivale...@lir.msu.edu vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Has anyone had a 1000 hardware problem? Lightning excluded. On 7/28/09, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Yes, but you don't get the expansion capabilities, no fiber options, no extra Ethernet port options, and no hard drive options. J Not to mention no USB ports.. the 1000 is a great product, just comes up short on Ports sometimes. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the PowerRouter? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The key differences is the x86 is, IMO, more trustworthy but definitely handles more capacity. I use the PoweRouter 732 with a CF card on ROS 3.13. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have several rb1000 , need something with ports and must trustable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire speed these days Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com mailto:char...@thewybles.com wrote: Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu mailto:vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
1st, we need gige ports to transfer above 300 mbps on our licensed backbone, 2nd we need enough cpu to handle mpls, 3rd we dont trust routerboards that much ... they are ok for or small towers, not for this our experience is tha MK on x86 platforms give us 0 problems Gino From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Scott Carullo Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance I wasn't suggesting a rb1000, what about a rb450g or 493ah? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: RB1000 is $700 - I have always viewed Routerboards as expendable. $700 seems too much for an expendable motherboard. You can buy a really nice Intel Core Duo with loads more horsepower for the same price from Butch/PoweRouter. Don't get me wrong - Routerboards are great, but for something at the tower sites I want it to be worthwhile and I think Gino's suggestion (or something comparable) is the best idea. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Supermicros get along great with ros Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting RouterOS on it to test drive. Randy Josh Luthman wrote: I could have sworn it did...but looking at it again it definitely does not. I specifically remember looking for that too... Ignore my initial post! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB, SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a second ethernet to this version. If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet or VLAN. Is routing via VLAN common? I have heard of one-armed routers, but didn't think they were too common. On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
VLANs and a VLAN aware switch. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
imho its overpriced From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 7:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The key differences is the x86 is, IMO, more trustworthy but definitely handles more capacity. I use the PoweRouter 732 with a CF card on ROS 3.13. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have several rb1000 , need something with ports and must trustable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire speed these days Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com wrote: Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
we did From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 8:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Has anyone had a 1000 hardware problem? Lightning excluded. On 7/28/09, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Yes, but you don't get the expansion capabilities, no fiber options, no extra Ethernet port options, and no hard drive options. J Not to mention no USB ports.. the 1000 is a great product, just comes up short on Ports sometimes. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the PowerRouter? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The key differences is the x86 is, IMO, more trustworthy but definitely handles more capacity. I use the PoweRouter 732 with a CF card on ROS 3.13. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have several rb1000 , need something with ports and must trustable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire speed these days Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com mailto:char...@thewybles.com wrote: Quite right. Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :) Jayson Baker wrote: VLAN On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one interface =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu mailto:vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Josh, You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one on motherboard). But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device. Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to get at. Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't think you could feed it directly off a battery. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: $120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
funny thing .. we have several atoms mb running ros From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Scott Carullo Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ros does not support atom Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, How many ports? What have you found for PCIe ethernet? A quick look at Newegg for 4 ports only shows Intel, at $400. So the ethernet card costs more than the server. If you stick with PCI (other Atom motherboards) you can use the cheaper Mikrotik 4port gigE (~$90). Total build cost might be less. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max RAM ( VMware). And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC power supply). Could you compare it to: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard?sc=8category=1178 Apart from being single core and out of stock, this one takes 12V power. Mini-Box sells a small case that will wall mount or snap into DIN rail. Maybe $200 for all the parts. I was thinking of using these at some tower sites. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm? typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
You are correct sorry for misinformation. I must have been thinking via instead or something Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 8:36 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: funny thing .. we have several atoms mb running ros From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Scott Carullo Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ros does not support atom Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, How many ports? What have you found for PCIe ethernet? A quick look at Newegg for 4 ports only shows Intel, at $400. So the ethernet card costs more than the server. If you stick with PCI (other Atom motherboards) you can use the cheaper Mikrotik 4port gigE (~$90). Total build cost might be less. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max RAM ( VMware). And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC power supply). Could you compare it to: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard?sc=8category=1178 Apart from being single core and out of stock, this one takes 12V power. Mini-Box sells a small case that will wall mount or snap into DIN rail. Maybe $200 for all the parts. I was thinking of using these at some tower sites. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm? typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Ya that HCL doesn't cut it IMO. I don't mean offend but when it says 3.0+ works on the Powerouter I believe it should mean just that. On mine I tried every version from 3.10 to 3.16 or so. Each of them had problems except 13. Between queues not doing anything, full CPU load, Winbox not connecting. It was hell. Note I still love this box but stick with 3.13 UFN or you are risking a bad night! On 7/28/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: funny thing .. we have several atoms mb running ros From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Scott Carullo Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ros does not support atom Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, How many ports? What have you found for PCIe ethernet? A quick look at Newegg for 4 ports only shows Intel, at $400. So the ethernet card costs more than the server. If you stick with PCI (other Atom motherboards) you can use the cheaper Mikrotik 4port gigE (~$90). Total build cost might be less. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max RAM ( VMware). And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC power supply). Could you compare it to: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard?sc=8category=1178 Apart from being single core and out of stock, this one takes 12V power. Mini-Box sells a small case that will wall mount or snap into DIN rail. Maybe $200 for all the parts. I was thinking of using these at some tower sites. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm? typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
hcl? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 9:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ya that HCL doesn't cut it IMO. I don't mean offend but when it says 3.0+ works on the Powerouter I believe it should mean just that. On mine I tried every version from 3.10 to 3.16 or so. Each of them had problems except 13. Between queues not doing anything, full CPU load, Winbox not connecting. It was hell. Note I still love this box but stick with 3.13 UFN or you are risking a bad night! On 7/28/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: funny thing .. we have several atoms mb running ros From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Scott Carullo Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ros does not support atom Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, How many ports? What have you found for PCIe ethernet? A quick look at Newegg for 4 ports only shows Intel, at $400. So the ethernet card costs more than the server. If you stick with PCI (other Atom motherboards) you can use the cheaper Mikrotik 4port gigE (~$90). Total build cost might be less. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max RAM ( VMware). And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC power supply). Could you compare it to: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard?sc=8category=1178 Apart from being single core and out of stock, this one takes 12V power. Mini-Box sells a small case that will wall mount or snap into DIN rail. Maybe $200 for all the parts. I was thinking of using these at some tower sites. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm? typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
I believe this was in reference to the Mikrotik Hardware Compatibility List Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:30 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance hcl? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 9:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ya that HCL doesn't cut it IMO. I don't mean offend but when it says 3.0+ works on the Powerouter I believe it should mean just that. On mine I tried every version from 3.10 to 3.16 or so. Each of them had problems except 13. Between queues not doing anything, full CPU load, Winbox not connecting. It was hell. Note I still love this box but stick with 3.13 UFN or you are risking a bad night! On 7/28/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: funny thing .. we have several atoms mb running ros From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Scott Carullo Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ros does not support atom Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, How many ports? What have you found for PCIe ethernet? A quick look at Newegg for 4 ports only shows Intel, at $400. So the ethernet card costs more than the server. If you stick with PCI (other Atom motherboards) you can use the cheaper Mikrotik 4port gigE (~$90). Total build cost might be less. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max RAM ( VMware). And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC power supply). Could you compare it to: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard?sc=8category=1 178 Apart from being single core and out of stock, this one takes 12V power. Mini-Box sells a small case that will wall mount or snap into DIN rail. Maybe $200 for all the parts. I was thinking of using these at some tower sites. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm? typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Hcl is hardware compatibility list On 7/28/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: hcl? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 9:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ya that HCL doesn't cut it IMO. I don't mean offend but when it says 3.0+ works on the Powerouter I believe it should mean just that. On mine I tried every version from 3.10 to 3.16 or so. Each of them had problems except 13. Between queues not doing anything, full CPU load, Winbox not connecting. It was hell. Note I still love this box but stick with 3.13 UFN or you are risking a bad night! On 7/28/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: funny thing .. we have several atoms mb running ros From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Scott Carullo Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ros does not support atom Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, How many ports? What have you found for PCIe ethernet? A quick look at Newegg for 4 ports only shows Intel, at $400. So the ethernet card costs more than the server. If you stick with PCI (other Atom motherboards) you can use the cheaper Mikrotik 4port gigE (~$90). Total build cost might be less. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max RAM ( VMware). And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC power supply). Could you compare it to: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard?sc=8category=1178 Apart from being single core and out of stock, this one takes 12V power. Mini-Box sells a small case that will wall mount or snap into DIN rail. Maybe $200 for all the parts. I was thinking of using these at some tower sites. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm? typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Got it Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Hcl is hardware compatibility list On 7/28/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: hcl? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 9:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ya that HCL doesn't cut it IMO. I don't mean offend but when it says 3.0+ works on the Powerouter I believe it should mean just that. On mine I tried every version from 3.10 to 3.16 or so. Each of them had problems except 13. Between queues not doing anything, full CPU load, Winbox not connecting. It was hell. Note I still love this box but stick with 3.13 UFN or you are risking a bad night! On 7/28/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: funny thing .. we have several atoms mb running ros From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Scott Carullo Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance Ros does not support atom Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, How many ports? What have you found for PCIe ethernet? A quick look at Newegg for 4 ports only shows Intel, at $400. So the ethernet card costs more than the server. If you stick with PCI (other Atom motherboards) you can use the cheaper Mikrotik 4port gigE (~$90). Total build cost might be less. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: Gino, I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max RAM ( VMware). And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC power supply). Could you compare it to: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard?sc=8; category=1178 Apart from being single core and out of stock, this one takes 12V power. Mini-Box sells a small case that will wall mount or snap into DIN rail. Maybe $200 for all the parts. I was thinking of using these at some tower sites. -John On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm? typ=H Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 --- --- --- --- -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
