Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named
The word on the streets is that the new FCC chairman is one Henry Rivera. He is a former FCC commissioner, who has been a telco lobbyist since 2001. The grist mill says he was chosen so he can push the FCC back into enforcing the fairness doctrine, which is federal control over broadcast political content. I can't say for sure abuot the rumor, however, he was at the FCC when that particular rule was thrown out, and opposed it going away. I have no idea what this means for us, except that he's definitely an activist type of person - the kind who believes in centralized governmental control of business. He is said to subcribe to telecommunications policy is a civil rights issue, which means that the FCC should be active in controlling content and ownership of the media to meet specific political goals of minority ownership, among other things, and considers an array of subjects to be a matter of a legal right of groups to have media ownership. For instance, if a racial minority group says that stations don't play the music they want to hear, they should be given ownership of a broadcast license by revoking the license of those they complain against and transferring it. This particular type of action did occur, and lawsuits eventually led to the FCC abandoning that idea in the 80's. Exactly what or how that impacts ISP's... Well, it's hard to say with certainty, but he's definitely a believer in big brother directing what what business is doing. In fact, he resigned from the FCC in the mid 80's when his fellow commisioners abandoned the activist approach to media content control. Since his resignation Rivera has not been noted for anything except lobbying about broadcasting and legal work for telecoms. I could find no information about his actions or views concerning internet - however many now consider it a broadcast medium - no idea if that's his thoughts. There has been no announcement of what you know who has for goals as far as media and communication are concerned, but it is possible that your service could be redefined as a right or be subject to arm-twisting for public goals. The operative thinking behind those who consider Rivera an ally is that free enteprise will not serve the needs of the nation. I haven't found much from him to know if that's his thoughts or not. As to how it changes the faces at the FCC, Robert McDowell's term ends in 2009 and is likely the first face to change of the commissioners. Welcome to the world of big business. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT election results I will bring this back on topic by bringing up the FCC seats that will change with the new administration. Does anyone have any thoughts on who will get appointed to the FCC and what effect it will have on us? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named
InterestingChoice. I think its worthy to note several things... 1) Broadband is only one of the many issues the FCC regulates, and may not be the core reason a commissioner is chosen. 2) The term, Telecom, can mean all or any of CLEC, ILEC, BabyBell. Its relevent to understand which telecom interests that Rivera represented, to understand who he is. Anyone know more about which? 3) Some of the biggest Wireless supporters (the current and last commissioners) were also the biggest Monopoly RBOC supporters. So what is best for Wireless providers is not necessary what is best for all other Internet competitive issues. There has been a huge amount of negative critism on the last two commissioners over their terms, in the area of undoing the Telecom Act of 1996. But it should be well noted, Martin was the LARGEST supporter to give TV Whitespaces back to the people. Licensed-Lite or Unlicensed, either way, its to WISP's interests, as Back to the People. What will be interesting is whether Rivera's position on fairness doctrine, will translate to small business ownership of the PIPE, to equalize control of the Internet media. Government controlling versus Government reglulations to empower under provellenged third parties, both accomplish the same goal, the second without the big brother mentality and without risking the larger powers turning Broadband into the world controlled by a handful of Kings. Regardless of what political view one might have, this current presidential Election will nodoubt bring change. Only time will tell whether this change will be for the better or worse. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named The word on the streets is that the new FCC chairman is one Henry Rivera. He is a former FCC commissioner, who has been a telco lobbyist since 2001. The grist mill says he was chosen so he can push the FCC back into enforcing the fairness doctrine, which is federal control over broadcast political content. I can't say for sure abuot the rumor, however, he was at the FCC when that particular rule was thrown out, and opposed it going away. I have no idea what this means for us, except that he's definitely an activist type of person - the kind who believes in centralized governmental control of business. He is said to subcribe to telecommunications policy is a civil rights issue, which means that the FCC should be active in controlling content and ownership of the media to meet specific political goals of minority ownership, among other things, and considers an array of subjects to be a matter of a legal right of groups to have media ownership. For instance, if a racial minority group says that stations don't play the music they want to hear, they should be given ownership of a broadcast license by revoking the license of those they complain against and transferring it. This particular type of action did occur, and lawsuits eventually led to the FCC abandoning that idea in the 80's. Exactly what or how that impacts ISP's... Well, it's hard to say with certainty, but he's definitely a believer in big brother directing what what business is doing. In fact, he resigned from the FCC in the mid 80's when his fellow commisioners abandoned the activist approach to media content control. Since his resignation Rivera has not been noted for anything except lobbying about broadcasting and legal work for telecoms. I could find no information about his actions or views concerning internet - however many now consider it a broadcast medium - no idea if that's his thoughts. There has been no announcement of what you know who has for goals as far as media and communication are concerned, but it is possible that your service could be redefined as a right or be subject to arm-twisting for public goals. The operative thinking behind those who consider Rivera an ally is that free enteprise will not serve the needs of the nation. I haven't found much from him to know if that's his thoughts or not. As to how it changes the faces at the FCC, Robert McDowell's term ends in 2009 and is likely the first face to change of the commissioners. Welcome to the world of big business. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT election results I will bring this back on topic by bringing up the FCC seats that will change with the new administration. Does anyone have any thoughts on who will get appointed to the FCC and what effect it will have on us? Sam Tetherow Sandhills
Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named
insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named InterestingChoice. I think its worthy to note several things... 1) Broadband is only one of the many issues the FCC regulates, and may not be the core reason a commissioner is chosen. I stated I don't think he was chosen for internet interests. It was broadcast interests. 2) The term, Telecom, can mean all or any of CLEC, ILEC, BabyBell. Its relevent to understand which telecom interests that Rivera represented, to understand who he is. Anyone know more about which? Can't say. There might some industry papers or whatnot that detail what he's done or thinks. I could only find activist stuff aabout him... That was either for or against him. Or more accurately, against him, or activst groups that considered him an ally. That's not a lot, but he has a long long resume in lawyering, mostly about broadcasting and telephone companies. 3) Some of the biggest Wireless supporters (the current and last commissioners) were also the biggest Monopoly RBOC supporters. So what is best for Wireless providers is not necessary what is best for all other Internet competitive issues. There has been a huge amount of negative critism on the last two commissioners over their terms, in the area of undoing the Telecom Act of 1996. But it should be well noted, Martin was the LARGEST supporter to give TV Whitespaces back to the people. Licensed-Lite or Unlicensed, either way, its to WISP's interests, as Back to the People. I think we agree on the principle, at least. However, the people that consider Rivera an ally do NOT believe that, and believe that private enterprise is a failure. This doesn't say a lot about Rivera, but it does indicate what he has actively supported. What will be interesting is whether Rivera's position on fairness doctrine, will translate to small business ownership of the PIPE, to equalize control of the Internet media. Government controlling versus Government reglulations to empower under provellenged third parties, both accomplish the same goal, the second without the big brother mentality and without risking the larger powers turning Broadband into the world controlled by a handful of Kings. Again, no proponent of the fairness doctrine believes in private enterprise as valid when it comes to delivery. Again, this is about broadcast - and the controversy is about radio and tv - and I can't say it has a lot of relevance to internet or ISP issues, except that it tends to be an indicator as to whether or not they defend free enterprise and free markets. Regardless of what political view one might have, this current presidential Election will nodoubt bring change. Only time will tell whether this change will be for the better or worse. I'm sure you can deduce that my opinion and prognostication is no good or much worse. For the most part, our industry can survive and actually thrive, as either a mainstream industry or niche industry, despite almost all threats except regulation. Against that, there is no amount of brains or creativity or strategizing or prudence or wisdom which can be a shield. It is the only thing gauranteed to be 100% lethal. There ARE still makers of buggies, buggy whips, and iron tired wheels. They come and go regularly. There hasn't been a new car maker of significance started in a half century. It is simply impossible to overcome the regulatory hurdles, thus we now have 3 that Congress is determined to bail out at your expense. There will not be a maker of incandescant lights. They are now banned, as of 2012. Yup, you gotta use those mercury spreading things known as CFL's. I expect to buy myself a lifetime supply of regular lights and stock up. If you break just ONE CFL in a home, there's enough mercury in the powdered insides to make the inside of your house legally uninhabitable. Sorry, I just have very little faith in the meddling if big brother in my or your life. I have no evidence to suggest it works well. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named
I always found it overly limiting that Leprocons infer that the Pot of Gold was found at the end of the rainbow. Inferring that the value was at the far ends of the spectrum. I'd argue that the wise find that the pot of gold lies somewhere in the middle, realizing the value is the beauty of the rainbow itself. Government versus Non-government there has to be a better happy medium. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named InterestingChoice. I think its worthy to note several things... 1) Broadband is only one of the many issues the FCC regulates, and may not be the core reason a commissioner is chosen. I stated I don't think he was chosen for internet interests. It was broadcast interests. 2) The term, Telecom, can mean all or any of CLEC, ILEC, BabyBell. Its relevent to understand which telecom interests that Rivera represented, to understand who he is. Anyone know more about which? Can't say. There might some industry papers or whatnot that detail what he's done or thinks. I could only find activist stuff aabout him... That was either for or against him. Or more accurately, against him, or activst groups that considered him an ally. That's not a lot, but he has a long long resume in lawyering, mostly about broadcasting and telephone companies. 3) Some of the biggest Wireless supporters (the current and last commissioners) were also the biggest Monopoly RBOC supporters. So what is best for Wireless providers is not necessary what is best for all other Internet competitive issues. There has been a huge amount of negative critism on the last two commissioners over their terms, in the area of undoing the Telecom Act of 1996. But it should be well noted, Martin was the LARGEST supporter to give TV Whitespaces back to the people. Licensed-Lite or Unlicensed, either way, its to WISP's interests, as Back to the People. I think we agree on the principle, at least. However, the people that consider Rivera an ally do NOT believe that, and believe that private enterprise is a failure. This doesn't say a lot about Rivera, but it does indicate what he has actively supported. What will be interesting is whether Rivera's position on fairness doctrine, will translate to small business ownership of the PIPE, to equalize control of the Internet media. Government controlling versus Government reglulations to empower under provellenged third parties, both accomplish the same goal, the second without the big brother mentality and without risking the larger powers turning Broadband into the world controlled by a handful of Kings. Again, no proponent of the fairness doctrine believes in private enterprise as valid when it comes to delivery. Again, this is about broadcast - and the controversy is about radio and tv - and I can't say it has a lot of relevance to internet or ISP issues, except that it tends to be an indicator as to whether or not they defend free enterprise and free markets. Regardless of what political view one might have, this current presidential Election will nodoubt bring change. Only time will tell whether this change will be for the better or worse. I'm sure you can deduce that my opinion and prognostication is no good or much worse. For the most part, our industry can survive and actually thrive, as either a mainstream industry or niche industry, despite almost all threats except regulation. Against that, there is no amount of brains or creativity or strategizing or prudence or wisdom which can be a shield. It is the only thing gauranteed to be 100% lethal. There ARE still makers of buggies, buggy whips, and iron tired wheels. They come and go regularly. There hasn't been a new car maker of significance started in a half century. It is simply impossible to overcome the regulatory hurdles, thus we now have 3 that Congress is determined to bail out at your expense. There will not be a maker of incandescant lights. They are now banned, as of 2012. Yup, you gotta use those mercury spreading things known as CFL's. I expect to buy myself a lifetime supply of regular lights and stock up. If you break just ONE CFL in a home, there's enough mercury in the powdered insides to make the inside of your house legally uninhabitable. Sorry, I just have very little faith in the meddling if big brother in my or your life. I have no evidence
Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named
snip a lot More on FCC chairperson selection: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2008/tc2008119_650156.htm?campaign_id=yhoo Comments? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named
The two newsarticles I found on Rivera insisted he was the top of the list for chairman, both published today. regardless, changes in people can be profound changes in policy... Which could be helpful or lethal... We need to not be dependent on whims for our existence... The shifting sands of policy... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named snip a lot More on FCC chairperson selection: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2008/tc2008119_650156.htm?campaign_id=yhoo Comments? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results - probable new chairman named
Om Malik weighed in on the topic as well with: http://gigaom.com/2008/11/10/when-choosing-an-fcc-chair-obama-should-think-outside-the-beltway/ Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Charles Wyble wrote: snip a lot More on FCC chairperson selection: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2008/tc2008119_650156.htm?campaign_id=yhoo Comments? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results
That's too bad. Prediction is that from now on... Who gets it is who pays the biggest bucks. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT election results On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Sam Tetherow wrote: I will bring this back on topic by bringing up the FCC seats that will change with the new administration. Does anyone have any thoughts on who will get appointed to the FCC and what effect it will have on us? I have my hopes...I don't have a good guess as to who will run the FCC. It'll have an impact for sure, as the current FCC decided to forgo the opportunity to finalize things for the TVWS. They made a big part of the choice (we can use it)...they left some of the details to the new recruits. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering* * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member* * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT election results
Hi All, Since I've not seen any political discussions here of late I'm guessing that most folks were just as discussed at the choices as I was. Anyone have any thoughts as to what the next 2 to 4 years will be like for us? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results
I'm glad the whitespace spectrum was approved. I hear tell our new fearless leader wants to appoint a CIO for the country. That undoubtedly means even more regulation, process and red tape. Just read any large companies CIO blog. Ugh. I'm hoping that WISPs will be able to bid on contracts for networks, as the new economy and all it's fixing the poverty line will probably include digital divide provisions. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, Since I've not seen any political discussions here of late I'm guessing that most folks were just as discussed at the choices as I was. Anyone have any thoughts as to what the next 2 to 4 years will be like for us? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results
Well it's certainly clear that our taxes will be going up. Hope everyone enjoys it. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT election results Hi All, Since I've not seen any political discussions here of late I'm guessing that most folks were just as discussed at the choices as I was. Anyone have any thoughts as to what the next 2 to 4 years will be like for us? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results
Brad, You are 100% correct. Taxes up. Markets haven't reacted well at all to the choice for our new leader. Not at all. Brad Belton wrote: Well it's certainly clear that our taxes will be going up. Hope everyone enjoys it. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT election results Hi All, Since I've not seen any political discussions here of late I'm guessing that most folks were just as discussed at the choices as I was. Anyone have any thoughts as to what the next 2 to 4 years will be like for us? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results
Our taxes may go up, but we get free gas and don't have to pay our mortgage payments any more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI I wonder what's going to happen when people come back to the real world and realize Obama isn't going to pay their mortgages for them? Travis Microserv Brad Belton wrote: Well it's certainly clear that our taxes will be going up. Hope everyone enjoys it. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT election results Hi All, Since I've not seen any political discussions here of late I'm guessing that most folks were just as discussed at the choices as I was. Anyone have any thoughts as to what the next 2 to 4 years will be like for us? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I agree 100% (or even 110%) That is O.T. This clearly is NOT a list for political discussions but I can send you a fine list of political sites where politics are discussed 24/7. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, Since I've not seen any political discussions here of late I'm guessing that most folks were just as discussed at the choices as I was. Anyone have any thoughts as to what the next 2 to 4 years will be like for us? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Read my new EBook-Minimize Your Microwave Energy Exposure from Cellphones http://www.lulu.com/content/4368917 FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: Our taxes may go up, but we get free gas and don't have to pay our mortgage payments any more Not sure where the list daddy is, but this needs to go to another list. It doesn't matter how we feel about the election (I have my opinions, too, and they're as strong as you all), but this is not the right place to discuss. You can discuss this on the WISPA-Chat list if you like. http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/chat -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Jack Unger wrote: I agree 100% (or even 110%) That is O.T. This clearly is NOT a list for political discussions but I can send you a fine list of political sites where politics are discussed 24/7. Certainly. Yet a lot of the things on this list go off in various tangents. :) We're just short cutting the process! LOL. However in all seriousness you are correct. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, Since I've not seen any political discussions here of late I'm guessing that most folks were just as discussed at the choices as I was. Anyone have any thoughts as to what the next 2 to 4 years will be like for us? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Well it's certainly clear that our taxes will be going up That depends on who We is. Money has to be made before taxes can be paid on it :-( Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT election results Well it's certainly clear that our taxes will be going up. Hope everyone enjoys it. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT election results Hi All, Since I've not seen any political discussions here of late I'm guessing that most folks were just as discussed at the choices as I was. Anyone have any thoughts as to what the next 2 to 4 years will be like for us? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results
Taxes are the least of my concern, at this point. My concern is what will happen to the Lending/Financial market? Will it be easier or harder to get financing for WISP expansion (lease or capitol purchases)? What will happen to our real estate assets? Will banks recognize the fair value of them, again? These will all be effected by whetehr the economy suffers or improves. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT election results Brad, You are 100% correct. Taxes up. Markets haven't reacted well at all to the choice for our new leader. Not at all. Brad Belton wrote: Well it's certainly clear that our taxes will be going up. Hope everyone enjoys it. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT election results Hi All, Since I've not seen any political discussions here of late I'm guessing that most folks were just as discussed at the choices as I was. Anyone have any thoughts as to what the next 2 to 4 years will be like for us? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results
Hi All, Since I've not seen any political discussions here of late I'm guessing that most folks were just as discussed at the choices as I was. Anyone have any thoughts as to what the next 2 to 4 years will be like for us? So Jesus, Barack Obama and Boy George walk into a bar Oh wait, wrong list, sorry. c This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT election results
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Sam Tetherow wrote: I will bring this back on topic by bringing up the FCC seats that will change with the new administration. Does anyone have any thoughts on who will get appointed to the FCC and what effect it will have on us? I have my hopes...I don't have a good guess as to who will run the FCC. It'll have an impact for sure, as the current FCC decided to forgo the opportunity to finalize things for the TVWS. They made a big part of the choice (we can use it)...they left some of the details to the new recruits. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
