Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Drew Lentz
Canopy 400.

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> Is that canopy or alvarion results?
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Gino Villarini
Glad you clarified

Have you ever tried the Motorla PTP Series? 400, 500 and 600 ?

The 500 uses a 15 mhz channel for a top speed of 100 Mbps, the PTP 600 can 
achieve 300 Mbps with a 30 Mhz channel 

Give me the coordinates of both sites to give you a idea of the achievable BW 
of your links, (with interference factor)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

Brazil, and Patrick we returned a 5.4 VL gear (AU, and a pack of 10 SU)
becouse of the same problem, even in 5.4ghz.

2008/4/14, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> 5850? That channel is not legal .. well in the US at least..
>
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> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:03 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> B100
>
> Sounds like interference on the other channels may be your problem.
>
> Gustavo Santos wrote:
> > that exactly the problem i´m having, its just works in one channel, 5860
> and
> > 20mhz,  when i choose 40mhz and 5850 i get at most 10mbps , worse them
> the
> > almost 35mbits at 20mhz. the worst problem i could notice is that the
> > alvarion work or dont work, anything diferent from 5860 is 500kbps or
> doesnt
> > even associate with the base .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/4/14, Javier Arigita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> My experience is restricted to ETSI B100 (1W EIRP) and to be honest, I
> >> agree
> >> with you, it was quite difficult to stablish a reliable 60-70Mbps link
> on
> >> more than 2-3km, in urban environment (LOS but a little bit noisy). In
> >> average, we have gotten around 40-50Mbps. The 40MHz channel in B100 is
> >> very
> >> noise sensitive.
> >>
> >> On 4/14/08, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Javier Arigita wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz
> channel
> >>>>
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>> max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.
> >>>>
> >>> With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench."
> We've
> >>> had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, but as
> >>> even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it hasn't been
> >>> much of an issue.
> >>>
> >>> This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually
> every
> >>> piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to the
> specs
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Gustavo Santos
Brazil, and Patrick we returned a 5.4 VL gear (AU, and a pack of 10 SU)
becouse of the same problem, even in 5.4ghz.

2008/4/14, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> 5850? That channel is not legal .. well in the US at least..
>
> Gino A. Villarini
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jack Unger
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:03 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> B100
>
> Sounds like interference on the other channels may be your problem.
>
> Gustavo Santos wrote:
> > that exactly the problem i´m having, its just works in one channel, 5860
> and
> > 20mhz,  when i choose 40mhz and 5850 i get at most 10mbps , worse them
> the
> > almost 35mbits at 20mhz. the worst problem i could notice is that the
> > alvarion work or dont work, anything diferent from 5860 is 500kbps or
> doesnt
> > even associate with the base .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/4/14, Javier Arigita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> My experience is restricted to ETSI B100 (1W EIRP) and to be honest, I
> >> agree
> >> with you, it was quite difficult to stablish a reliable 60-70Mbps link
> on
> >> more than 2-3km, in urban environment (LOS but a little bit noisy). In
> >> average, we have gotten around 40-50Mbps. The 40MHz channel in B100 is
> >> very
> >> noise sensitive.
> >>
> >> On 4/14/08, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Javier Arigita wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz
> channel
> >>>>
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>> max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.
> >>>>
> >>> With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench."
> We've
> >>> had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, but as
> >>> even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it hasn't been
> >>> much of an issue.
> >>>
> >>> This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually
> every
> >>> piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to the
> specs
> >>> in some fashion. :P
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> >>> David Smith
> >>> MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Gino Villarini
5850? That channel is not legal .. well in the US at least..

Gino A. Villarini
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

Sounds like interference on the other channels may be your problem.

Gustavo Santos wrote:
> that exactly the problem i´m having, its just works in one channel, 5860 and
> 20mhz,  when i choose 40mhz and 5850 i get at most 10mbps , worse them the
> almost 35mbits at 20mhz. the worst problem i could notice is that the
> alvarion work or dont work, anything diferent from 5860 is 500kbps or doesnt
> even associate with the base .
>
>
>
>
> 2008/4/14, Javier Arigita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> My experience is restricted to ETSI B100 (1W EIRP) and to be honest, I
>> agree
>> with you, it was quite difficult to stablish a reliable 60-70Mbps link on
>> more than 2-3km, in urban environment (LOS but a little bit noisy). In
>> average, we have gotten around 40-50Mbps. The 40MHz channel in B100 is
>> very
>> noise sensitive.
>>
>> On 4/14/08, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Javier Arigita wrote:
>>>   
>>>> As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz channel
>>>> 
>>> and
>>>   
>>>> max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.
>>>> 
>>> With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench." We've
>>> had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, but as
>>> even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it hasn't been
>>> much of an issue.
>>>
>>> This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually every
>>> piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to the specs
>>> in some fashion. :P
>>>
>>> David Smith
>>> MVN.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Patrick Leary
This is exactly why I am so gratified to see that every new band the FCC has 
announced in past few years REQUIRES ATPC. This makes bands like 5.4, 5.3 and 
3650 much better in terms of noise -- no screamers allowed. That is the single 
best thing they have done in the UL bands, though not many appreciate the 
significance of Automatic Transmit Power Control.

Patrick

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Hehe - same problem we have here with other brand radios.  Has nothing to do
with the radios though - has to do with an outrageous noise floor.  I'd feel
lucky if I could get as good as you're getting on one channel!!
Unfortunately for me, then entire spectrum is junk and we're having to
really get creative on how we're doing things. 

 

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Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:56 PM
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B100

that exactly the problem i´m having, its just works in one channel, 5860 and
20mhz,  when i choose 40mhz and 5850 i get at most 10mbps , worse them the
almost 35mbits at 20mhz. the worst problem i could notice is that the
alvarion work or dont work, anything diferent from 5860 is 500kbps or doesnt
even associate with the base .




2008/4/14, Javier Arigita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> My experience is restricted to ETSI B100 (1W EIRP) and to be honest, I 
> agree with you, it was quite difficult to stablish a reliable 
> 60-70Mbps link on more than 2-3km, in urban environment (LOS but a 
> little bit noisy). In average, we have gotten around 40-50Mbps. The 
> 40MHz channel in B100 is very noise sensitive.
>
> On 4/14/08, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Javier Arigita wrote:
> > > As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz 
> > > channel
> > and
> > > max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.
> >
> > With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench." 
> > We've had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, 
> > but as even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it 
> > hasn't been much of an issue.
> >
> > This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually 
> > every piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to 
> > the specs in some fashion. :P
> >
> > David Smith
> > MVN.net
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Javier Arigita
In order to check if the problem is related to interference, you can always
do an Spectrum Analysis, after that BreezeCONFIG will show you exactly what
is causing noise in every channel. If you do not find a reliable 40MHz
channel, I suggest you to go on with 20MHz. In case you find problems of
packet loss, you can play with the decision thresholds (from normal to high)
or the HW retries in the performance menu (if I remember well).

Good luck


On 4/14/08, Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sounds like interference on the other channels may be your problem.
>
> Gustavo Santos wrote:
> > that exactly the problem i´m having, its just works in one channel, 5860
> and
> > 20mhz,  when i choose 40mhz and 5850 i get at most 10mbps , worse them
> the
> > almost 35mbits at 20mhz. the worst problem i could notice is that the
> > alvarion work or dont work, anything diferent from 5860 is 500kbps or
> doesnt
> > even associate with the base .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/4/14, Javier Arigita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> My experience is restricted to ETSI B100 (1W EIRP) and to be honest, I
> >> agree
> >> with you, it was quite difficult to stablish a reliable 60-70Mbps link
> on
> >> more than 2-3km, in urban environment (LOS but a little bit noisy). In
> >> average, we have gotten around 40-50Mbps. The 40MHz channel in B100 is
> >> very
> >> noise sensitive.
> >>
> >> On 4/14/08, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Javier Arigita wrote:
> >>>
>  As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz
> channel
> 
> >>> and
> >>>
>  max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.
> 
> >>> With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench."
> We've
> >>> had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, but as
> >>> even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it hasn't been
> >>> much of an issue.
> >>>
> >>> This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually
> every
> >>> piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to the
> specs
> >>> in some fashion. :P
> >>>
> >>> David Smith
> >>> MVN.net
> >>>
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Gustavo Santos
Any idea or setting that i can change to make the link more noisy resistant?

I fear that if someone , one day , turn another radio the the this 5860mhz i
will have a big problem, coz will be no channel available.




2008/4/14, Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Sounds like interference on the other channels may be your problem.
>
> Gustavo Santos wrote:
> > that exactly the problem i´m having, its just works in one channel, 5860
> and
> > 20mhz,  when i choose 40mhz and 5850 i get at most 10mbps , worse them
> the
> > almost 35mbits at 20mhz. the worst problem i could notice is that the
> > alvarion work or dont work, anything diferent from 5860 is 500kbps or
> doesnt
> > even associate with the base .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/4/14, Javier Arigita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> My experience is restricted to ETSI B100 (1W EIRP) and to be honest, I
> >> agree
> >> with you, it was quite difficult to stablish a reliable 60-70Mbps link
> on
> >> more than 2-3km, in urban environment (LOS but a little bit noisy). In
> >> average, we have gotten around 40-50Mbps. The 40MHz channel in B100 is
> >> very
> >> noise sensitive.
> >>
> >> On 4/14/08, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Javier Arigita wrote:
> >>>
>  As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz
> channel
> 
> >>> and
> >>>
>  max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.
> 
> >>> With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench."
> We've
> >>> had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, but as
> >>> even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it hasn't been
> >>> much of an issue.
> >>>
> >>> This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually
> every
> >>> piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to the
> specs
> >>> in some fashion. :P
> >>>
> >>> David Smith
> >>> MVN.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Jason Hensley
Hehe - same problem we have here with other brand radios.  Has nothing to do
with the radios though - has to do with an outrageous noise floor.  I'd feel
lucky if I could get as good as you're getting on one channel!!
Unfortunately for me, then entire spectrum is junk and we're having to
really get creative on how we're doing things. 

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
B100

that exactly the problem i´m having, its just works in one channel, 5860 and
20mhz,  when i choose 40mhz and 5850 i get at most 10mbps , worse them the
almost 35mbits at 20mhz. the worst problem i could notice is that the
alvarion work or dont work, anything diferent from 5860 is 500kbps or doesnt
even associate with the base .




2008/4/14, Javier Arigita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> My experience is restricted to ETSI B100 (1W EIRP) and to be honest, I 
> agree with you, it was quite difficult to stablish a reliable 
> 60-70Mbps link on more than 2-3km, in urban environment (LOS but a 
> little bit noisy). In average, we have gotten around 40-50Mbps. The 
> 40MHz channel in B100 is very noise sensitive.
>
> On 4/14/08, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Javier Arigita wrote:
> > > As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz 
> > > channel
> > and
> > > max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.
> >
> > With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench." 
> > We've had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, 
> > but as even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it 
> > hasn't been much of an issue.
> >
> > This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually 
> > every piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to 
> > the specs in some fashion. :P
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread John Scrivner
If that is the case then I can assure you that you have some noise issues in
the band. The noise immunity control needs to be disabled for sure if you
have not already. Their noise immunity controls do not work and cause more
trouble than they are designed to fix. I do get good results when we use 20
MHz sized channels, keep noise immunity control switched off and stay away
from interference.

Trying to use 40 MHz channels in 5.8 GHz is a bit like trying to drive down
a 2 lane highway down the center of the road at 120 MPH. Eventually
something is going to interfere with your plans.
Scriv


On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Gustavo Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> that exactly the problem i´m having, its just works in one channel, 5860
> and
> 20mhz,  when i choose 40mhz and 5850 i get at most 10mbps , worse them the
> almost 35mbits at 20mhz. the worst problem i could notice is that the
> alvarion work or dont work, anything diferent from 5860 is 500kbps or
> doesnt
> even associate with the base .
>
>
>
>
> 2008/4/14, Javier Arigita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > My experience is restricted to ETSI B100 (1W EIRP) and to be honest, I
> > agree
> > with you, it was quite difficult to stablish a reliable 60-70Mbps link
> on
> > more than 2-3km, in urban environment (LOS but a little bit noisy). In
> > average, we have gotten around 40-50Mbps. The 40MHz channel in B100 is
> > very
> > noise sensitive.
> >
> > On 4/14/08, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Javier Arigita wrote:
> > > > As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz
> channel
> > > and
> > > > max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.
> > >
> > > With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench."
> We've
> > > had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, but as
> > > even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it hasn't been
> > > much of an issue.
> > >
> > > This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually
> every
> > > piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to the
> specs
> > > in some fashion. :P
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Jack Unger
Sounds like interference on the other channels may be your problem.

Gustavo Santos wrote:
> that exactly the problem i´m having, its just works in one channel, 5860 and
> 20mhz,  when i choose 40mhz and 5850 i get at most 10mbps , worse them the
> almost 35mbits at 20mhz. the worst problem i could notice is that the
> alvarion work or dont work, anything diferent from 5860 is 500kbps or doesnt
> even associate with the base .
>
>
>
>
> 2008/4/14, Javier Arigita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> My experience is restricted to ETSI B100 (1W EIRP) and to be honest, I
>> agree
>> with you, it was quite difficult to stablish a reliable 60-70Mbps link on
>> more than 2-3km, in urban environment (LOS but a little bit noisy). In
>> average, we have gotten around 40-50Mbps. The 40MHz channel in B100 is
>> very
>> noise sensitive.
>>
>> On 4/14/08, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Javier Arigita wrote:
>>>   
 As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz channel
 
>>> and
>>>   
 max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.
 
>>> With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench." We've
>>> had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, but as
>>> even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it hasn't been
>>> much of an issue.
>>>
>>> This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually every
>>> piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to the specs
>>> in some fashion. :P
>>>
>>> David Smith
>>> MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Gustavo Santos
that exactly the problem i´m having, its just works in one channel, 5860 and
20mhz,  when i choose 40mhz and 5850 i get at most 10mbps , worse them the
almost 35mbits at 20mhz. the worst problem i could notice is that the
alvarion work or dont work, anything diferent from 5860 is 500kbps or doesnt
even associate with the base .




2008/4/14, Javier Arigita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> My experience is restricted to ETSI B100 (1W EIRP) and to be honest, I
> agree
> with you, it was quite difficult to stablish a reliable 60-70Mbps link on
> more than 2-3km, in urban environment (LOS but a little bit noisy). In
> average, we have gotten around 40-50Mbps. The 40MHz channel in B100 is
> very
> noise sensitive.
>
> On 4/14/08, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Javier Arigita wrote:
> > > As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz channel
> > and
> > > max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.
> >
> > With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench." We've
> > had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, but as
> > even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it hasn't been
> > much of an issue.
> >
> > This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually every
> > piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to the specs
> > in some fashion. :P
> >
> > David Smith
> > MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Javier Arigita
My experience is restricted to ETSI B100 (1W EIRP) and to be honest, I agree
with you, it was quite difficult to stablish a reliable 60-70Mbps link on
more than 2-3km, in urban environment (LOS but a little bit noisy). In
average, we have gotten around 40-50Mbps. The 40MHz channel in B100 is very
noise sensitive.

On 4/14/08, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Javier Arigita wrote:
> > As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz channel
> and
> > max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.
>
> With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench." We've
> had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, but as
> even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it hasn't been
> much of an issue.
>
> This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually every
> piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to the specs
> in some fashion. :P
>
> David Smith
> MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread David E. Smith
Javier Arigita wrote:
> As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz channel and
> max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.

With the standard allowances for "real-world" versus "workbench." We've 
had trouble pushing more than 40Mbps or so on a 40MHz channel, but as 
even that exceeds our requirements for our B100 links it hasn't been 
much of an issue.

This isn't specific to those radios or even that brand - virtually every 
piece of networking gear I've ever bought failed to live up to the specs 
in some fashion. :P

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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-14 Thread Javier Arigita
As far as I understand, B100 should give you 35Mbps on a 20MHz channel and
max 70 on a 40MHz one..., so the results are quite adequate.

BR


On 4/13/08, Gustavo Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I just managed to put the b100 to work, but only 35mbits 20mhz channel, at
> 5860mhz  but ´m scared about that it only worked in that frequency..
>
> 2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > I always ask myself, do we really need that much pps? Trading off
> > performance?
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:13 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> > B100
> >
> > we got the alvarion by the 4pps advertise :/
> >
> > 2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > Why you didn't try a PTP400 or PTP600 ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Gino A. Villarini
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> > >
> > > -Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> > >
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:06 PM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and
> Breeznet
> > > B100
> > >
> > > we bought that B100 to replace a working canopy BH 20 ( 15mbps)
> > >
> > > 2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
> > > > Too bad ...
> > > >
> > > > Might want to check out the new Canopy 400 PTMP with 21 Mbps OFDM
> > Radios
> > > >
> > > > Gino A. Villarini
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > > > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On
> > > > Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:10 PM
> > > > To: wireless@wispa.org
> > > > Subject: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> > > B100
> > > >
> > > > Hi, someone here have some idea how to solve the problems i~m
> getting
> > > > with the Alvarion VL gear?
> > > >
> > > > I bought some AU and SU 5.4ghz and a B100 5.8ghz 100mbits) ffor  a
> ~5
> > > > miles link, for start replacing my motorola canopy network ( we now
> > > > need more troughtput and pps ).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I first deployed the AU with a 120º Sector  and a 4 Su 6mbit
> version,
> > > > the Su ara really easy to align but i got latency and upload traffic
> > > > problems, i can get a steady 5mbits downstream but about no upstream
> > > > traffic.i already tried change the modulation lavels, atpc, tx
> power,
> > > > all freqs , lower the channel bandwidth. available but no go.
> > > >
> > > > Today i deployed the B100 and i´m having the same issues as the VL
> > > > gear. but worse, only a spiky 3 ~4mbits downstream traffic and about
> > > > 2mbits upstream for a radio capable of almost 70mbits, whats is a
> > > > shame. We are in a very crowded area, but the motorola canopy works
> > > > perfectly in that area, but we got troughput issues with canopy.
> > > >
> > > > anyone here had problems like that with the Alvarion gear in a
> > > > crownded 5ghz area?
> > > > in the same area we could manage to work a Airlive Wla5000 (802.11a
> > > > radio) from ovislink to work better then the Alvarion.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advice.
> > > >
> > > > Gustavo Santos
> > > >
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-13 Thread Allen Yu
Motorola PTP product provides the true layer 2 Ethernet connection, the
throughput is not limited by packet per seconds.

For example, the PTP600 can support more than 400K packget per second on 64
byte pack...

Regards

Allen

On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Gustavo Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> we got the alvarion by the 4pps advertise :/
>
> 2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Why you didn't try a PTP400 or PTP600 ?
> >
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> >
> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:06 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> > B100
> >
> > we bought that B100 to replace a working canopy BH 20 ( 15mbps)
> >
> > 2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > Too bad ...
> > >
> > > Might want to check out the new Canopy 400 PTMP with 21 Mbps OFDM
> Radios
> > >
> > > Gino A. Villarini
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:10 PM
> > > To: wireless@wispa.org
> > > Subject: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> > B100
> > >
> > > Hi, someone here have some idea how to solve the problems i~m getting
> > > with the Alvarion VL gear?
> > >
> > > I bought some AU and SU 5.4ghz and a B100 5.8ghz 100mbits) ffor  a ~5
> > > miles link, for start replacing my motorola canopy network ( we now
> > > need more troughtput and pps ).
> > >
> > >
> > > I first deployed the AU with a 120º Sector  and a 4 Su 6mbit version,
> > > the Su ara really easy to align but i got latency and upload traffic
> > > problems, i can get a steady 5mbits downstream but about no upstream
> > > traffic.i already tried change the modulation lavels, atpc, tx power,
> > > all freqs , lower the channel bandwidth. available but no go.
> > >
> > > Today i deployed the B100 and i´m having the same issues as the VL
> > > gear. but worse, only a spiky 3 ~4mbits downstream traffic and about
> > > 2mbits upstream for a radio capable of almost 70mbits, whats is a
> > > shame. We are in a very crowded area, but the motorola canopy works
> > > perfectly in that area, but we got troughput issues with canopy.
> > >
> > > anyone here had problems like that with the Alvarion gear in a
> > > crownded 5ghz area?
> > > in the same area we could manage to work a Airlive Wla5000 (802.11a
> > > radio) from ovislink to work better then the Alvarion.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advice.
> > >
> > > Gustavo Santos
> > >
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> > >
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-13 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
Is that canopy or alvarion results?
- Original Message - 
From: "Drew Lentz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


*21 Mbps @ ~1.25 Miles





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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-13 Thread Drew Lentz
*21 Mbps @ ~1.25 Miles

-d
Gino Villarini wrote:
> Too bad ...
>
> Might want to check out the new Canopy 400 PTMP with 21 Mbps OFDM Radios
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:10 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100
>
> Hi, someone here have some idea how to solve the problems i~m getting
> with the Alvarion VL gear?
>
> I bought some AU and SU 5.4ghz and a B100 5.8ghz 100mbits) ffor  a ~5
> miles link, for start replacing my motorola canopy network ( we now
> need more troughtput and pps ).
>
>
> I first deployed the AU with a 120º Sector  and a 4 Su 6mbit version,
> the Su ara really easy to align but i got latency and upload traffic
> problems, i can get a steady 5mbits downstream but about no upstream
> traffic.i already tried change the modulation lavels, atpc, tx power,
> all freqs , lower the channel bandwidth. available but no go.
>
> Today i deployed the B100 and i´m having the same issues as the VL
> gear. but worse, only a spiky 3 ~4mbits downstream traffic and about
> 2mbits upstream for a radio capable of almost 70mbits, whats is a
> shame. We are in a very crowded area, but the motorola canopy works
> perfectly in that area, but we got troughput issues with canopy.
>
> anyone here had problems like that with the Alvarion gear in a
> crownded 5ghz area?
> in the same area we could manage to work a Airlive Wla5000 (802.11a
> radio) from ovislink to work better then the Alvarion.
>
> Thanks in advice.
>
> Gustavo Santos
>
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-13 Thread Mike Cowan
That's me!

Thanks for the kind words John.

I would 1st run a spectrum analysis to see what the radio thinks it 
hears.  Channel select accordingly.  In a high noise environment go 
the the advanced menu, air interface, noise immunity state control 
and set it to manual.  Give that a shot.

Mike



At 03:23 AM 4/13/2008, John Scrivner wrote:
>I am copying a friend of mine at a company called Wireless 
>Connections. His name is Mike Cowan. He is an RF engineer who 
>specializes in Alvarion issues. He has helped me dramatically 
>improve our VL and B-100 performance. Feel free to contact him for 
>further assistance. There are many things you can do to make these 
>system perform flawlessly in these bands.
>John Scrivner
>

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Wireless Connections
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-13 Thread John Scrivner
I am copying a friend of mine at a company called Wireless Connections. His
name is Mike Cowan. He is an RF engineer who specializes in Alvarion issues.
He has helped me dramatically improve our VL and B-100 performance. Feel
free to contact him for further assistance. There are many things you can do
to make these system perform flawlessly in these bands.
John Scrivner


On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Gustavo Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi, someone here have some idea how to solve the problems i~m getting
> with the Alvarion VL gear?
>
> I bought some AU and SU 5.4ghz and a B100 5.8ghz 100mbits) ffor  a ~5
> miles link, for start replacing my motorola canopy network ( we now
> need more troughtput and pps ).
>
>
> I first deployed the AU with a 120º Sector  and a 4 Su 6mbit version,
> the Su ara really easy to align but i got latency and upload traffic
> problems, i can get a steady 5mbits downstream but about no upstream
> traffic.i already tried change the modulation lavels, atpc, tx power,
> all freqs , lower the channel bandwidth. available but no go.
>
> Today i deployed the B100 and i´m having the same issues as the VL
> gear. but worse, only a spiky 3 ~4mbits downstream traffic and about
> 2mbits upstream for a radio capable of almost 70mbits, whats is a
> shame. We are in a very crowded area, but the motorola canopy works
> perfectly in that area, but we got troughput issues with canopy.
>
> anyone here had problems like that with the Alvarion gear in a
> crownded 5ghz area?
> in the same area we could manage to work a Airlive Wla5000 (802.11a
> radio) from ovislink to work better then the Alvarion.
>
> Thanks in advice.
>
> Gustavo Santos
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-12 Thread Gustavo Santos
I just managed to put the b100 to work, but only 35mbits 20mhz channel, at
5860mhz  but ´m scared about that it only worked in that frequency..

2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I always ask myself, do we really need that much pps? Trading off
> performance?
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:13 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> B100
>
> we got the alvarion by the 4pps advertise :/
>
> 2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Why you didn't try a PTP400 or PTP600 ?
> >
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> >
> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:06 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> > B100
> >
> > we bought that B100 to replace a working canopy BH 20 ( 15mbps)
> >
> > 2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > Too bad ...
> > >
> > > Might want to check out the new Canopy 400 PTMP with 21 Mbps OFDM
> Radios
> > >
> > > Gino A. Villarini
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:10 PM
> > > To: wireless@wispa.org
> > > Subject: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> > B100
> > >
> > > Hi, someone here have some idea how to solve the problems i~m getting
> > > with the Alvarion VL gear?
> > >
> > > I bought some AU and SU 5.4ghz and a B100 5.8ghz 100mbits) ffor  a ~5
> > > miles link, for start replacing my motorola canopy network ( we now
> > > need more troughtput and pps ).
> > >
> > >
> > > I first deployed the AU with a 120º Sector  and a 4 Su 6mbit version,
> > > the Su ara really easy to align but i got latency and upload traffic
> > > problems, i can get a steady 5mbits downstream but about no upstream
> > > traffic.i already tried change the modulation lavels, atpc, tx power,
> > > all freqs , lower the channel bandwidth. available but no go.
> > >
> > > Today i deployed the B100 and i´m having the same issues as the VL
> > > gear. but worse, only a spiky 3 ~4mbits downstream traffic and about
> > > 2mbits upstream for a radio capable of almost 70mbits, whats is a
> > > shame. We are in a very crowded area, but the motorola canopy works
> > > perfectly in that area, but we got troughput issues with canopy.
> > >
> > > anyone here had problems like that with the Alvarion gear in a
> > > crownded 5ghz area?
> > > in the same area we could manage to work a Airlive Wla5000 (802.11a
> > > radio) from ovislink to work better then the Alvarion.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advice.
> > >
> > > Gustavo Santos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-12 Thread Gino Villarini
I always ask myself, do we really need that much pps? Trading off performance?

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

we got the alvarion by the 4pps advertise :/

2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Why you didn't try a PTP400 or PTP600 ?
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
>
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:06 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> B100
>
> we bought that B100 to replace a working canopy BH 20 ( 15mbps)
>
> 2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Too bad ...
> >
> > Might want to check out the new Canopy 400 PTMP with 21 Mbps OFDM Radios
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:10 PM
> > To: wireless@wispa.org
> > Subject: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> B100
> >
> > Hi, someone here have some idea how to solve the problems i~m getting
> > with the Alvarion VL gear?
> >
> > I bought some AU and SU 5.4ghz and a B100 5.8ghz 100mbits) ffor  a ~5
> > miles link, for start replacing my motorola canopy network ( we now
> > need more troughtput and pps ).
> >
> >
> > I first deployed the AU with a 120º Sector  and a 4 Su 6mbit version,
> > the Su ara really easy to align but i got latency and upload traffic
> > problems, i can get a steady 5mbits downstream but about no upstream
> > traffic.i already tried change the modulation lavels, atpc, tx power,
> > all freqs , lower the channel bandwidth. available but no go.
> >
> > Today i deployed the B100 and i´m having the same issues as the VL
> > gear. but worse, only a spiky 3 ~4mbits downstream traffic and about
> > 2mbits upstream for a radio capable of almost 70mbits, whats is a
> > shame. We are in a very crowded area, but the motorola canopy works
> > perfectly in that area, but we got troughput issues with canopy.
> >
> > anyone here had problems like that with the Alvarion gear in a
> > crownded 5ghz area?
> > in the same area we could manage to work a Airlive Wla5000 (802.11a
> > radio) from ovislink to work better then the Alvarion.
> >
> > Thanks in advice.
> >
> > Gustavo Santos
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-12 Thread Gustavo Santos
we got the alvarion by the 4pps advertise :/

2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Why you didn't try a PTP400 or PTP600 ?
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
>
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:06 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> B100
>
> we bought that B100 to replace a working canopy BH 20 ( 15mbps)
>
> 2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Too bad ...
> >
> > Might want to check out the new Canopy 400 PTMP with 21 Mbps OFDM Radios
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:10 PM
> > To: wireless@wispa.org
> > Subject: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet
> B100
> >
> > Hi, someone here have some idea how to solve the problems i~m getting
> > with the Alvarion VL gear?
> >
> > I bought some AU and SU 5.4ghz and a B100 5.8ghz 100mbits) ffor  a ~5
> > miles link, for start replacing my motorola canopy network ( we now
> > need more troughtput and pps ).
> >
> >
> > I first deployed the AU with a 120º Sector  and a 4 Su 6mbit version,
> > the Su ara really easy to align but i got latency and upload traffic
> > problems, i can get a steady 5mbits downstream but about no upstream
> > traffic.i already tried change the modulation lavels, atpc, tx power,
> > all freqs , lower the channel bandwidth. available but no go.
> >
> > Today i deployed the B100 and i´m having the same issues as the VL
> > gear. but worse, only a spiky 3 ~4mbits downstream traffic and about
> > 2mbits upstream for a radio capable of almost 70mbits, whats is a
> > shame. We are in a very crowded area, but the motorola canopy works
> > perfectly in that area, but we got troughput issues with canopy.
> >
> > anyone here had problems like that with the Alvarion gear in a
> > crownded 5ghz area?
> > in the same area we could manage to work a Airlive Wla5000 (802.11a
> > radio) from ovislink to work better then the Alvarion.
> >
> > Thanks in advice.
> >
> > Gustavo Santos
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-12 Thread Gino Villarini
Why you didn't try a PTP400 or PTP600 ?

Gino A. Villarini
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

we bought that B100 to replace a working canopy BH 20 ( 15mbps)

2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Too bad ...
>
> Might want to check out the new Canopy 400 PTMP with 21 Mbps OFDM Radios
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:10 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100
>
> Hi, someone here have some idea how to solve the problems i~m getting
> with the Alvarion VL gear?
>
> I bought some AU and SU 5.4ghz and a B100 5.8ghz 100mbits) ffor  a ~5
> miles link, for start replacing my motorola canopy network ( we now
> need more troughtput and pps ).
>
>
> I first deployed the AU with a 120º Sector  and a 4 Su 6mbit version,
> the Su ara really easy to align but i got latency and upload traffic
> problems, i can get a steady 5mbits downstream but about no upstream
> traffic.i already tried change the modulation lavels, atpc, tx power,
> all freqs , lower the channel bandwidth. available but no go.
>
> Today i deployed the B100 and i´m having the same issues as the VL
> gear. but worse, only a spiky 3 ~4mbits downstream traffic and about
> 2mbits upstream for a radio capable of almost 70mbits, whats is a
> shame. We are in a very crowded area, but the motorola canopy works
> perfectly in that area, but we got troughput issues with canopy.
>
> anyone here had problems like that with the Alvarion gear in a
> crownded 5ghz area?
> in the same area we could manage to work a Airlive Wla5000 (802.11a
> radio) from ovislink to work better then the Alvarion.
>
> Thanks in advice.
>
> Gustavo Santos
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-12 Thread Gustavo Santos
we bought that B100 to replace a working canopy BH 20 ( 15mbps)

2008/4/12, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Too bad ...
>
> Might want to check out the new Canopy 400 PTMP with 21 Mbps OFDM Radios
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:10 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100
>
> Hi, someone here have some idea how to solve the problems i~m getting
> with the Alvarion VL gear?
>
> I bought some AU and SU 5.4ghz and a B100 5.8ghz 100mbits) ffor  a ~5
> miles link, for start replacing my motorola canopy network ( we now
> need more troughtput and pps ).
>
>
> I first deployed the AU with a 120º Sector  and a 4 Su 6mbit version,
> the Su ara really easy to align but i got latency and upload traffic
> problems, i can get a steady 5mbits downstream but about no upstream
> traffic.i already tried change the modulation lavels, atpc, tx power,
> all freqs , lower the channel bandwidth. available but no go.
>
> Today i deployed the B100 and i´m having the same issues as the VL
> gear. but worse, only a spiky 3 ~4mbits downstream traffic and about
> 2mbits upstream for a radio capable of almost 70mbits, whats is a
> shame. We are in a very crowded area, but the motorola canopy works
> perfectly in that area, but we got troughput issues with canopy.
>
> anyone here had problems like that with the Alvarion gear in a
> crownded 5ghz area?
> in the same area we could manage to work a Airlive Wla5000 (802.11a
> radio) from ovislink to work better then the Alvarion.
>
> Thanks in advice.
>
> Gustavo Santos
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-12 Thread Gino Villarini
Too bad ...

Might want to check out the new Canopy 400 PTMP with 21 Mbps OFDM Radios

Gino A. Villarini
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gustavo Santos
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:10 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

Hi, someone here have some idea how to solve the problems i~m getting
with the Alvarion VL gear?

I bought some AU and SU 5.4ghz and a B100 5.8ghz 100mbits) ffor  a ~5
miles link, for start replacing my motorola canopy network ( we now
need more troughtput and pps ).


I first deployed the AU with a 120º Sector  and a 4 Su 6mbit version,
the Su ara really easy to align but i got latency and upload traffic
problems, i can get a steady 5mbits downstream but about no upstream
traffic.i already tried change the modulation lavels, atpc, tx power,
all freqs , lower the channel bandwidth. available but no go.

Today i deployed the B100 and i´m having the same issues as the VL
gear. but worse, only a spiky 3 ~4mbits downstream traffic and about
2mbits upstream for a radio capable of almost 70mbits, whats is a
shame. We are in a very crowded area, but the motorola canopy works
perfectly in that area, but we got troughput issues with canopy.

anyone here had problems like that with the Alvarion gear in a
crownded 5ghz area?
in the same area we could manage to work a Airlive Wla5000 (802.11a
radio) from ovislink to work better then the Alvarion.

Thanks in advice.

Gustavo Santos



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[WISPA] Problems with Alvarion BreezeAccess VL and Breeznet B100

2008-04-12 Thread Gustavo Santos
Hi, someone here have some idea how to solve the problems i~m getting
with the Alvarion VL gear?

I bought some AU and SU 5.4ghz and a B100 5.8ghz 100mbits) ffor  a ~5
miles link, for start replacing my motorola canopy network ( we now
need more troughtput and pps ).


I first deployed the AU with a 120º Sector  and a 4 Su 6mbit version,
the Su ara really easy to align but i got latency and upload traffic
problems, i can get a steady 5mbits downstream but about no upstream
traffic.i already tried change the modulation lavels, atpc, tx power,
all freqs , lower the channel bandwidth. available but no go.

Today i deployed the B100 and i´m having the same issues as the VL
gear. but worse, only a spiky 3 ~4mbits downstream traffic and about
2mbits upstream for a radio capable of almost 70mbits, whats is a
shame. We are in a very crowded area, but the motorola canopy works
perfectly in that area, but we got troughput issues with canopy.

anyone here had problems like that with the Alvarion gear in a
crownded 5ghz area?
in the same area we could manage to work a Airlive Wla5000 (802.11a
radio) from ovislink to work better then the Alvarion.

Thanks in advice.

Gustavo Santos



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