RE: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps
You folks meeting the FCC, can you ask about 3.65 ghz? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps I had offered some time ago to help set up a WISPA sponsored and maintained web mapping server. This server could be tied to a database and have whatever security is desired to maintain data security. Actual network coverage footprints for each and every WISP could be possible on these maps with security implemented to not show the public who covers where. The benefit of doing this would be to finally show people like the FCC and Congress the combined footprint of the WISP industry as a whole. With this combined footprint it is easy to calculate the population, households and other socio economic data that the WISP industry serves TODAY. For whatever reason this idea has never taken root. I was not willing to do all of this for free so that probably stopped it cold. If WISPA were serious about doing something of this nature I would certainly lend my expertise to outline the methods and requirements to set something like this up (and yes I would do that part for free). It's a geographic information systems based software solution (GIS). Used properly it can be a powerful tool and if WISPA were armed with this type of hard data they could really start to put pressure on legislators. We would even be able to tell each legislator what the numbers were for the WISP's in their specific districts, without a combined base map data set of the WISP territories it is not possible. It requires all WISP's to pull together and make their footprint be known and entered in to the mapping server database. It does not require that it be made public nor given over to any other entity. WISPA could be the guardian of the data. This was what I thought WISPA could do for the industry a long time ago. I made the suggestion but it did not seem like there was a collective voice that wanted to do this. Is the time right to approach the idea again? If anyone wants and idea of what types of things GIS can do, there is a link to a PowerPoint presentation on my web site. It does not specifically address the concept of what I am proposing but it gives the general idea. This same system could also be used for any disaster planning and recovery programs that Marlon mentions. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Principal WISPA Member List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps Those are great points Forbes. Let me hit on a couple of points. First, we'll be spending some time training again. There are a lot of new people at the FCC and I hope to get them there. They don't know what a WISP is or why we are so important in the market place, let alone what we actually do. I'm going to try for TWO meetings. One that's really basic and one that would get more detailed about current market trends, what's working well and what isn't etc. Next, your idea on a goal to walk out of there with. It just so happens I've been working, as time allows, on an idea. As we talked on the phone the other day, you had a local disaster hit a week or two ago. *I* should have been down there to help you get your customers back online. We only had one customer go down and who would have known that his chimney and tv antenna and my antenna would come down in a 60 mph breeze. After all, we had 80mph a year or two ago *I* could have gone down there and helped out for a couple of days and only had to put off a few installs. No bid deal, people would have understood. I didn't think of going and you probably didn't think of asking. The idea I've been working on is that we create a database. A map actually. On this map we'll list ever provider out there and what technology they use, what skill sets they have (climbers, network admins etc.). When a disaster hits (like what hit Seattle or whatever), someone with the authority to do so will click on the areas around the disaster and start contacting providers to see what they can do to help the guys that are in the disaster. What needs to happen is for FEMA, FCC, Red Cross etc. appoints a liaison with WISPA, when the stuff hits the fan, they contact us saying that they need access, or whatever, in x areas and we get on the phone and start moving help into the area. I want this to be an official deal. I want wispa to be in the first few phone calls or emails. I want us to do what we did after Katrina, but I want to do it better, faster and in a more coordinated manner
3650 was -- Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps
what would you like to know? There was something just released about 3650. Anyone remember what it was??? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:54 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps You folks meeting the FCC, can you ask about 3.65 ghz? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps I had offered some time ago to help set up a WISPA sponsored and maintained web mapping server. This server could be tied to a database and have whatever security is desired to maintain data security. Actual network coverage footprints for each and every WISP could be possible on these maps with security implemented to not show the public who covers where. The benefit of doing this would be to finally show people like the FCC and Congress the combined footprint of the WISP industry as a whole. With this combined footprint it is easy to calculate the population, households and other socio economic data that the WISP industry serves TODAY. For whatever reason this idea has never taken root. I was not willing to do all of this for free so that probably stopped it cold. If WISPA were serious about doing something of this nature I would certainly lend my expertise to outline the methods and requirements to set something like this up (and yes I would do that part for free). It's a geographic information systems based software solution (GIS). Used properly it can be a powerful tool and if WISPA were armed with this type of hard data they could really start to put pressure on legislators. We would even be able to tell each legislator what the numbers were for the WISP's in their specific districts, without a combined base map data set of the WISP territories it is not possible. It requires all WISP's to pull together and make their footprint be known and entered in to the mapping server database. It does not require that it be made public nor given over to any other entity. WISPA could be the guardian of the data. This was what I thought WISPA could do for the industry a long time ago. I made the suggestion but it did not seem like there was a collective voice that wanted to do this. Is the time right to approach the idea again? If anyone wants and idea of what types of things GIS can do, there is a link to a PowerPoint presentation on my web site. It does not specifically address the concept of what I am proposing but it gives the general idea. This same system could also be used for any disaster planning and recovery programs that Marlon mentions. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Principal WISPA Member List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps Those are great points Forbes. Let me hit on a couple of points. First, we'll be spending some time training again. There are a lot of new people at the FCC and I hope to get them there. They don't know what a WISP is or why we are so important in the market place, let alone what we actually do. I'm going to try for TWO meetings. One that's really basic and one that would get more detailed about current market trends, what's working well and what isn't etc. Next, your idea on a goal to walk out of there with. It just so happens I've been working, as time allows, on an idea. As we talked on the phone the other day, you had a local disaster hit a week or two ago. *I* should have been down there to help you get your customers back online. We only had one customer go down and who would have known that his chimney and tv antenna and my antenna would come down in a 60 mph breeze. After all, we had 80mph a year or two ago *I* could have gone down there and helped out for a couple of days and only had to put off a few installs. No bid deal, people would have understood. I didn't think of going and you probably didn't think of asking. The idea I've been working on is that we create a database. A map actually. On this map we'll list ever provider out there and what technology they use, what skill sets they have (climbers, network admins etc.). When a disaster hits (like what hit Seattle or whatever), someone with the authority to do
Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps
Marlon- I'll be at the FTC hearings. Not sure yet if it will be idle curiosity or if one of my clients will be paying me. If you want to discuss anything beforehand, feel free to call. I'd like to get together for lunch or drinks when you're in town. Did the Chileans ever get in contact? Mark Mark C. Del Bianco Law Office of Mark Del Bianco 3929 Washington St. Kensington, MD 20895 301-933-7216 Communications Law for the Digital Age This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the named addressee(s) and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please immediately notify me at (301) 933-7216 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps
Im interested. When are you planning to go? Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:21 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: Principal WISPA Member List Subject: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps Importance: High Hi All, We're set to meet with the FCC (lots of new staff and a couple of new commissioners) in Feb. 14,15 or 16. Topics etc. are still being worked out. I'm also going to try to get a spot at: http://www.ftc.gov/opp/workshops/broadband/index.html I need 5 or 6 people that would like to go. Naturally, you'll have to cover your own expenses. I'll see if I can talk the board into helping a bit with those, but I'm not sure where we're sitting money wise right now. I think that only WISPA members should be invited to participate. Thoughts on this? If you are interested/available for a trip to DC please let me know ASAP so we can firm up all of the details. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date: 12/20/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps
We don't have a solid date yet. Still working on that. Just what's stated below as a range. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:05 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps Im interested. When are you planning to go? Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:21 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: Principal WISPA Member List Subject: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps Importance: High Hi All, We're set to meet with the FCC (lots of new staff and a couple of new commissioners) in Feb. 14,15 or 16. Topics etc. are still being worked out. I'm also going to try to get a spot at: http://www.ftc.gov/opp/workshops/broadband/index.html I need 5 or 6 people that would like to go. Naturally, you'll have to cover your own expenses. I'll see if I can talk the board into helping a bit with those, but I'm not sure where we're sitting money wise right now. I think that only WISPA members should be invited to participate. Thoughts on this? If you are interested/available for a trip to DC please let me know ASAP so we can firm up all of the details. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date: 12/20/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps
Those are great points Forbes. Let me hit on a couple of points. First, we'll be spending some time training again. There are a lot of new people at the FCC and I hope to get them there. They don't know what a WISP is or why we are so important in the market place, let alone what we actually do. I'm going to try for TWO meetings. One that's really basic and one that would get more detailed about current market trends, what's working well and what isn't etc. Next, your idea on a goal to walk out of there with. It just so happens I've been working, as time allows, on an idea. As we talked on the phone the other day, you had a local disaster hit a week or two ago. *I* should have been down there to help you get your customers back online. We only had one customer go down and who would have known that his chimney and tv antenna and my antenna would come down in a 60 mph breeze. After all, we had 80mph a year or two ago *I* could have gone down there and helped out for a couple of days and only had to put off a few installs. No bid deal, people would have understood. I didn't think of going and you probably didn't think of asking. The idea I've been working on is that we create a database. A map actually. On this map we'll list ever provider out there and what technology they use, what skill sets they have (climbers, network admins etc.). When a disaster hits (like what hit Seattle or whatever), someone with the authority to do so will click on the areas around the disaster and start contacting providers to see what they can do to help the guys that are in the disaster. What needs to happen is for FEMA, FCC, Red Cross etc. appoints a liaison with WISPA, when the stuff hits the fan, they contact us saying that they need access, or whatever, in x areas and we get on the phone and start moving help into the area. I want this to be an official deal. I want wispa to be in the first few phone calls or emails. I want us to do what we did after Katrina, but I want to do it better, faster and in a more coordinated manner. Thoughts? Do you guys think we can pull that off? How do we get the anti 477 crowd to fill in their spot on the map Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:47 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps Regarding the upcoming meeting at the FCC I have these points. It is important to our customers and the media to come away with results from these meetings. Could we find an item, ANY item no matter how small to have pre-approved and pre-negotiated agreement with the FCC. This way when we can come home and do press releases we can claim the Mighty FCC is listening to our concerns and because of our visit passed this resolution which will benefit all small business and the public in general. Then we can mention the big stuff we discussed and get public support even if it's a rats chance in hell the FCC will give it. :) It certainly can also help with our own community seeing OUR company as the activist for them whch puts us ahead of our local competitors in their eyes. An hour or so meeting with a bunch of FCC employees who are rolling their eyes as they deal with another special interest group wanting something will not motiviate them to ask us back, we need to present a unified and inspired presentation not just individual whining. Last time guys asking for frequencies or special stuff just made them wonder when their next meeting was and how soon they could duck out. Mac Dearman captivated them with his story of Katrina and that's the kind of stuff they need to know. THEN we throw in the other stuff to show how the next disaster will mean calling on us again and here's how we are ready. PLUS if we have the pre-approved resolution staff will know we have their bosses full support increasing our stature with them. No one likes the whiner but everyone likes someone who can run with the ball. Also getting the FCC to preapprove something could be released to major trade and public publications getting WISPA better positioning as the primary Wireless group in the country. This also raises the reputation of WISPA in the government and vendors eyes opening more doors and opportunities. You can't knock good PR and the FCC should be happy to do it because it sheds them in a positive light since all government wants to be seen as helping the little guy plus they understand Politics better then you or I ever will. Because of that they won't be insulted by you asking for a pre-approved resolution
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Hi Mark, I'm glad you'll be at the FTC workshop. What's your take on it? What'll it really be about? What's the goal? I'll not be at this FCC meeting. I've got too much to do here and not enough time or money to do it. I REALLY need to not travel for a year or two. At least not for fun stuff like this. I sure miss going though. I have a great deal of respect for many of the folks that I've met at the FCC over the years and it sucks to not go back there and see them from time to time. Never did hear from them. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mark Del Bianco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps Marlon- I'll be at the FTC hearings. Not sure yet if it will be idle curiosity or if one of my clients will be paying me. If you want to discuss anything beforehand, feel free to call. I'd like to get together for lunch or drinks when you're in town. Did the Chileans ever get in contact? Mark Mark C. Del Bianco Law Office of Mark Del Bianco 3929 Washington St. Kensington, MD 20895 301-933-7216 Communications Law for the Digital Age This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the named addressee(s) and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please immediately notify me at (301) 933-7216 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps
- Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps How do we get the anti 477 crowd to fill in their spot on the map A ratified constitutional amendment that says that congress and the FCC will stay FOREVER out of our hair. Since that's not going to happen... I would suggest conveying to the FCC just how adamant that a large array of operators are that they NOT be required to do X to be in the business of providing internet. 477 is just the nose of one of a herd of camels. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps
I had offered some time ago to help set up a WISPA sponsored and maintained web mapping server. This server could be tied to a database and have whatever security is desired to maintain data security. Actual network coverage footprints for each and every WISP could be possible on these maps with security implemented to not show the public who covers where. The benefit of doing this would be to finally show people like the FCC and Congress the combined footprint of the WISP industry as a whole. With this combined footprint it is easy to calculate the population, households and other socio economic data that the WISP industry serves TODAY. For whatever reason this idea has never taken root. I was not willing to do all of this for free so that probably stopped it cold. If WISPA were serious about doing something of this nature I would certainly lend my expertise to outline the methods and requirements to set something like this up (and yes I would do that part for free). It's a geographic information systems based software solution (GIS). Used properly it can be a powerful tool and if WISPA were armed with this type of hard data they could really start to put pressure on legislators. We would even be able to tell each legislator what the numbers were for the WISP's in their specific districts, without a combined base map data set of the WISP territories it is not possible. It requires all WISP's to pull together and make their footprint be known and entered in to the mapping server database. It does not require that it be made public nor given over to any other entity. WISPA could be the guardian of the data. This was what I thought WISPA could do for the industry a long time ago. I made the suggestion but it did not seem like there was a collective voice that wanted to do this. Is the time right to approach the idea again? If anyone wants and idea of what types of things GIS can do, there is a link to a PowerPoint presentation on my web site. It does not specifically address the concept of what I am proposing but it gives the general idea. This same system could also be used for any disaster planning and recovery programs that Marlon mentions. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Principal WISPA Member List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps Those are great points Forbes. Let me hit on a couple of points. First, we'll be spending some time training again. There are a lot of new people at the FCC and I hope to get them there. They don't know what a WISP is or why we are so important in the market place, let alone what we actually do. I'm going to try for TWO meetings. One that's really basic and one that would get more detailed about current market trends, what's working well and what isn't etc. Next, your idea on a goal to walk out of there with. It just so happens I've been working, as time allows, on an idea. As we talked on the phone the other day, you had a local disaster hit a week or two ago. *I* should have been down there to help you get your customers back online. We only had one customer go down and who would have known that his chimney and tv antenna and my antenna would come down in a 60 mph breeze. After all, we had 80mph a year or two ago *I* could have gone down there and helped out for a couple of days and only had to put off a few installs. No bid deal, people would have understood. I didn't think of going and you probably didn't think of asking. The idea I've been working on is that we create a database. A map actually. On this map we'll list ever provider out there and what technology they use, what skill sets they have (climbers, network admins etc.). When a disaster hits (like what hit Seattle or whatever), someone with the authority to do so will click on the areas around the disaster and start contacting providers to see what they can do to help the guys that are in the disaster. What needs to happen is for FEMA, FCC, Red Cross etc. appoints a liaison with WISPA, when the stuff hits the fan, they contact us saying that they need access, or whatever, in x areas and we get on the phone and start moving help into the area. I want this to be an official deal. I want wispa to be in the first few phone calls or emails. I want us to do what we did after Katrina, but I want to do it better, faster and in a more coordinated manner. Thoughts? Do you guys think we can pull that off? How do we get the anti 477 crowd to fill in their spot on the map Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED
