Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-23 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Mark, Jerome brings up a good point. The mesh system I
described was for a different application - providing
muni WiFi services (2.4 GHz), including wireless
metering, along with future mobility via a 4.9 GHz
licensed mesh network.  For you L or U Shaped Hotel
you can solve your problem with a much simpler system;
as mentioned in the other postings.  Good luck to you.
Felix


--- Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A few Buffalo WHR-HP-G54's running openwrt. Do
> routed WDS links, not
> bridged. Also use AP isolation to keep client to
> client traffic down.
> The RX amp in the HP is VERY nice. I use a setup
> like this and it
> works well with some planning.
> 
> 
> On 6/22/07, Felix A. Lopez
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mark,.  Because you asked specifically:  We used
> the
> > Motorola Canopy, Motorola Orthogon, and Moto Mesh
> > products.  I worked with my WiSP parnter listed
> below.
> > WE installed a combination mesh neetwork and fixed
> > wireless system including utility metering.  I had
> > them to go through mesh trainnig, and get the
> latest
> > in RF Wireless Planning software.
> >
> > THe WSIP is NorCal Broadband at
> http://www.ncbb.net/
> >
> > Please call Kerry Smith CTO or Bob McMahon CEO  at
> > 800.577.6630 and tell them I said hello. I enjoy
> > working with WISP operators.
> >
> > The system was integrated with Cisco backend.  WE
> > worked closely with Cisco administrators to
> provision
> > the gear and engineer in the right security
> protocol.
> >
> > Felix
> > Wireless Practioneer (and here to help)
> >
> > --- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I was kinda thinking a mesh product also, any
> brand
> > > recommendations? I
> > > kinda looked over Tranzeo.
> > >
> > > Mark McElvy
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Michael J. Erskine
> > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:21 PM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel
> > >
> > > It seems to me that a mesh product would be just
> the
> > > ticket in a motel.
> > >
> > > Then again I have never done a motel.  :)
> > >
> > > -m-
> > >
> > >
> > > Jack Unger wrote:
> > > > Felix,
> > > >
> > > > With all due respect, the Radio Mobile "cat"
> has
> > > been "out of the bag"
> > >
> > > > for many (perhaps 5) years.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your useful tree-attenuation
> > > information in your other
> > > > post.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > jack
> > > >
> > > > Felix A. Lopez wrote:
> > > >> Mark: The professional RF Planning software
> is
> > > good
> > > >> for large designs.  There is also freeware
> > > available
> > > >> and I will let the cat out of the bag.
> > > >> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
> > > >> Radio Mobile software is a copyright of Roger
> > > >> Coud?VE2DBE. Radio Mobile is dedicated to
> amateur
> > > >> radio and humanitarian use. Although
> commercial
> > > use is
> > > >> not prohibited, the author cannot be held
> > > responsible
> > > >> for its usage. The outputs resulting from the
> > > program
> > > >> are under the entire responsibility of the
> user,
> > > and
> > > >> the user should conform to restrictions from
> > > external
> > > >> data sources
> > > >> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
> > > >>
> > > >> Caveat:  Many wireless starters and subject
> > > matter
> > > >> experts use the Radio Mobile software as a
> "first
> > > >> glance" tool.  Because I'm an advocate of the
> > > >> WiFi/WiMax inteface, I would like to think
> the
> > > tool
> > > >> can be used for walking Mobile Radio too.
> > > >> Felix
> > > >> Wireless Practioneer
> > > >>
> > > >> --- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> I am putting together a quote for an older
> > > motel.
> > > >&g

Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-23 Thread Jeromie Reeves

A few Buffalo WHR-HP-G54's running openwrt. Do routed WDS links, not
bridged. Also use AP isolation to keep client to client traffic down.
The RX amp in the HP is VERY nice. I use a setup like this and it
works well with some planning.


On 6/22/07, Felix A. Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mark,.  Because you asked specifically:  We used the
Motorola Canopy, Motorola Orthogon, and Moto Mesh
products.  I worked with my WiSP parnter listed below.
WE installed a combination mesh neetwork and fixed
wireless system including utility metering.  I had
them to go through mesh trainnig, and get the latest
in RF Wireless Planning software.

THe WSIP is NorCal Broadband at http://www.ncbb.net/

Please call Kerry Smith CTO or Bob McMahon CEO  at
800.577.6630 and tell them I said hello. I enjoy
working with WISP operators.

The system was integrated with Cisco backend.  WE
worked closely with Cisco administrators to provision
the gear and engineer in the right security protocol.

Felix
Wireless Practioneer (and here to help)

--- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was kinda thinking a mesh product also, any brand
> recommendations? I
> kinda looked over Tranzeo.
>
> Mark McElvy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Michael J. Erskine
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:21 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel
>
> It seems to me that a mesh product would be just the
> ticket in a motel.
>
> Then again I have never done a motel.  :)
>
> -m-
>
>
> Jack Unger wrote:
> > Felix,
> >
> > With all due respect, the Radio Mobile "cat" has
> been "out of the bag"
>
> > for many (perhaps 5) years.
> >
> > Thank you for your useful tree-attenuation
> information in your other
> > post.
> >
> > Regards,
> > jack
> >
> > Felix A. Lopez wrote:
> >> Mark: The professional RF Planning software is
> good
> >> for large designs.  There is also freeware
> available
> >> and I will let the cat out of the bag.
> >> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
> >> Radio Mobile software is a copyright of Roger
> >> Coud?VE2DBE. Radio Mobile is dedicated to amateur
> >> radio and humanitarian use. Although commercial
> use is
> >> not prohibited, the author cannot be held
> responsible
> >> for its usage. The outputs resulting from the
> program
> >> are under the entire responsibility of the user,
> and
> >> the user should conform to restrictions from
> external
> >> data sources
> >> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
> >>
> >> Caveat:  Many wireless starters and subject
> matter
> >> experts use the Radio Mobile software as a "first
> >> glance" tool.  Because I'm an advocate of the
> >> WiFi/WiMax inteface, I would like to think the
> tool
> >> can be used for walking Mobile Radio too.
> >> Felix
> >> Wireless Practioneer
> >>
> >> --- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I am putting together a quote for an older
> motel.
> >>> They want to provide
> >>> wireless access for their customers. The build
> is a
> >>> big curving L or
> >>> almost U with a set of rooms in the middle. It
> is
> >>> all one story but the
> >>> rise in elevation as it curves around. The rooms
> are
> >>> your typical glass
> >>> front, open walkway motel with carports in
> front.
> >>> The length of the L or
> >>> U is approx 800ft. with the distance across the
> >>> points about 4-500 ft.
> >>>
> >>> How well will say an AP w/omni setting ontop of
> the
> >>> center building
> >>> cover such a setup? Or do I need to lean toward
> >>> several Ap's w 90 -120
> >>> sectors pointed at different sections of the
> >>> buildings? Or other ideas I
> >>> have not considered. This will be my first setup
> >>> like this.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mark McElvy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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&g

RE: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-22 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Mark,.  Because you asked specifically:  We used the
Motorola Canopy, Motorola Orthogon, and Moto Mesh
products.  I worked with my WiSP parnter listed below.
WE installed a combination mesh neetwork and fixed
wireless system including utility metering.  I had
them to go through mesh trainnig, and get the latest
in RF Wireless Planning software. 

THe WSIP is NorCal Broadband at http://www.ncbb.net/

Please call Kerry Smith CTO or Bob McMahon CEO  at
800.577.6630 and tell them I said hello. I enjoy
working with WISP operators. 

The system was integrated with Cisco backend.  WE
worked closely with Cisco administrators to provision
the gear and engineer in the right security protocol.

Felix
Wireless Practioneer (and here to help)

--- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was kinda thinking a mesh product also, any brand
> recommendations? I
> kinda looked over Tranzeo.
> 
> Mark McElvy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Michael J. Erskine
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:21 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel
> 
> It seems to me that a mesh product would be just the
> ticket in a motel.
> 
> Then again I have never done a motel.  :)
> 
> -m-
> 
> 
> Jack Unger wrote:
> > Felix,
> >
> > With all due respect, the Radio Mobile "cat" has
> been "out of the bag"
> 
> > for many (perhaps 5) years.
> >
> > Thank you for your useful tree-attenuation
> information in your other 
> > post.
> >
> > Regards,
> > jack
> >
> > Felix A. Lopez wrote:
> >> Mark: The professional RF Planning software is
> good
> >> for large designs.  There is also freeware
> available
> >> and I will let the cat out of the bag.  
> >> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
> >> Radio Mobile software is a copyright of Roger
> >> Coud?VE2DBE. Radio Mobile is dedicated to amateur
> >> radio and humanitarian use. Although commercial
> use is
> >> not prohibited, the author cannot be held
> responsible
> >> for its usage. The outputs resulting from the
> program
> >> are under the entire responsibility of the user,
> and
> >> the user should conform to restrictions from
> external
> >> data sources
> >> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
> >>
> >> Caveat:  Many wireless starters and subject
> matter
> >> experts use the Radio Mobile software as a "first
> >> glance" tool.  Because I'm an advocate of the
> >> WiFi/WiMax inteface, I would like to think the
> tool
> >> can be used for walking Mobile Radio too.
> >> Felix
> >> Wireless Practioneer
> >>
> >> --- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>  
> >>> I am putting together a quote for an older
> motel.
> >>> They want to provide
> >>> wireless access for their customers. The build
> is a
> >>> big curving L or
> >>> almost U with a set of rooms in the middle. It
> is
> >>> all one story but the
> >>> rise in elevation as it curves around. The rooms
> are
> >>> your typical glass
> >>> front, open walkway motel with carports in
> front.
> >>> The length of the L or
> >>> U is approx 800ft. with the distance across the
> >>> points about 4-500 ft.
> >>>
> >>> How well will say an AP w/omni setting ontop of
> the
> >>> center building
> >>> cover such a setup? Or do I need to lean toward
> >>> several Ap's w 90 -120
> >>> sectors pointed at different sections of the
> >>> buildings? Or other ideas I
> >>> have not considered. This will be my first setup
> >>> like this.
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>> Mark McElvy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> >>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-22 Thread Michael Erskine

http://www.meraki.com

Modeling indicates that this little "high density" design is probably 
just the ticket for you application.


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RE: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-22 Thread Mark McElvy
I use RM for my first look at my regular customer links. I would not
have thought to use it in such a situation.

Mark McElvy


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 1:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

Mark: The professional RF Planning software is good
for large designs.  There is also freeware available
and I will let the cat out of the bag.  
http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
Radio Mobile software is a copyright of Roger
Coud?VE2DBE. Radio Mobile is dedicated to amateur
radio and humanitarian use. Although commercial use is
not prohibited, the author cannot be held responsible
for its usage. The outputs resulting from the program
are under the entire responsibility of the user, and
the user should conform to restrictions from external
data sources
http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html

Caveat:  Many wireless starters and subject matter
experts use the Radio Mobile software as a "first
glance" tool.  Because I'm an advocate of the
WiFi/WiMax inteface, I would like to think the tool
can be used for walking Mobile Radio too. 

Felix
Wireless Practioneer

--- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am putting together a quote for an older motel.
> They want to provide
> wireless access for their customers. The build is a
> big curving L or
> almost U with a set of rooms in the middle. It is
> all one story but the
> rise in elevation as it curves around. The rooms are
> your typical glass
> front, open walkway motel with carports in front.
> The length of the L or
> U is approx 800ft. with the distance across the
> points about 4-500 ft.
> 
> How well will say an AP w/omni setting ontop of the
> center building
> cover such a setup? Or do I need to lean toward
> several Ap's w 90 -120
> sectors pointed at different sections of the
> buildings? Or other ideas I
> have not considered. This will be my first setup
> like this.
> 
>  
> 
> Mark McElvy
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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RE: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-22 Thread Mark McElvy
I was kinda thinking a mesh product also, any brand recommendations? I
kinda looked over Tranzeo.

Mark McElvy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Michael J. Erskine
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

It seems to me that a mesh product would be just the ticket in a motel.

Then again I have never done a motel.  :)

-m-


Jack Unger wrote:
> Felix,
>
> With all due respect, the Radio Mobile "cat" has been "out of the bag"

> for many (perhaps 5) years.
>
> Thank you for your useful tree-attenuation information in your other 
> post.
>
> Regards,
> jack
>
> Felix A. Lopez wrote:
>> Mark: The professional RF Planning software is good
>> for large designs.  There is also freeware available
>> and I will let the cat out of the bag.  
>> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
>> Radio Mobile software is a copyright of Roger
>> Coud?VE2DBE. Radio Mobile is dedicated to amateur
>> radio and humanitarian use. Although commercial use is
>> not prohibited, the author cannot be held responsible
>> for its usage. The outputs resulting from the program
>> are under the entire responsibility of the user, and
>> the user should conform to restrictions from external
>> data sources
>> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
>>
>> Caveat:  Many wireless starters and subject matter
>> experts use the Radio Mobile software as a "first
>> glance" tool.  Because I'm an advocate of the
>> WiFi/WiMax inteface, I would like to think the tool
>> can be used for walking Mobile Radio too.
>> Felix
>> Wireless Practioneer
>>
>> --- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> I am putting together a quote for an older motel.
>>> They want to provide
>>> wireless access for their customers. The build is a
>>> big curving L or
>>> almost U with a set of rooms in the middle. It is
>>> all one story but the
>>> rise in elevation as it curves around. The rooms are
>>> your typical glass
>>> front, open walkway motel with carports in front.
>>> The length of the L or
>>> U is approx 800ft. with the distance across the
>>> points about 4-500 ft.
>>>
>>> How well will say an AP w/omni setting ontop of the
>>> center building
>>> cover such a setup? Or do I need to lean toward
>>> several Ap's w 90 -120
>>> sectors pointed at different sections of the
>>> buildings? Or other ideas I
>>> have not considered. This will be my first setup
>>> like this.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Mark McElvy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>>  
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Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-22 Thread Michael J. Erskine

It seems to me that a mesh product would be just the ticket in a motel.

Then again I have never done a motel.  :)

-m-


Jack Unger wrote:

Felix,

With all due respect, the Radio Mobile "cat" has been "out of the bag" 
for many (perhaps 5) years.


Thank you for your useful tree-attenuation information in your other 
post.


Regards,
jack

Felix A. Lopez wrote:

Mark: The professional RF Planning software is good
for large designs.  There is also freeware available
and I will let the cat out of the bag.  
http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html

Radio Mobile software is a copyright of Roger
Coud?VE2DBE. Radio Mobile is dedicated to amateur
radio and humanitarian use. Although commercial use is
not prohibited, the author cannot be held responsible
for its usage. The outputs resulting from the program
are under the entire responsibility of the user, and
the user should conform to restrictions from external
data sources
http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html

Caveat:  Many wireless starters and subject matter
experts use the Radio Mobile software as a "first
glance" tool.  Because I'm an advocate of the
WiFi/WiMax inteface, I would like to think the tool
can be used for walking Mobile Radio too.
Felix
Wireless Practioneer

--- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

I am putting together a quote for an older motel.
They want to provide
wireless access for their customers. The build is a
big curving L or
almost U with a set of rooms in the middle. It is
all one story but the
rise in elevation as it curves around. The rooms are
your typical glass
front, open walkway motel with carports in front.
The length of the L or
U is approx 800ft. with the distance across the
points about 4-500 ft.

How well will say an AP w/omni setting ontop of the
center building
cover such a setup? Or do I need to lean toward
several Ap's w 90 -120
sectors pointed at different sections of the
buildings? Or other ideas I
have not considered. This will be my first setup
like this.

 


Mark McElvy



 


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Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-22 Thread Jack Unger

Felix,

With all due respect, the Radio Mobile "cat" has been "out of the bag" 
for many (perhaps 5) years.


Thank you for your useful tree-attenuation information in your other post.

Regards,
jack

Felix A. Lopez wrote:

Mark: The professional RF Planning software is good
for large designs.  There is also freeware available
and I will let the cat out of the bag.  
http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html

Radio Mobile software is a copyright of Roger
Coud?VE2DBE. Radio Mobile is dedicated to amateur
radio and humanitarian use. Although commercial use is
not prohibited, the author cannot be held responsible
for its usage. The outputs resulting from the program
are under the entire responsibility of the user, and
the user should conform to restrictions from external
data sources
http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html

Caveat:  Many wireless starters and subject matter
experts use the Radio Mobile software as a "first
glance" tool.  Because I'm an advocate of the
WiFi/WiMax inteface, I would like to think the tool
can be used for walking Mobile Radio too. 


Felix
Wireless Practioneer

--- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

I am putting together a quote for an older motel.
They want to provide
wireless access for their customers. The build is a
big curving L or
almost U with a set of rooms in the middle. It is
all one story but the
rise in elevation as it curves around. The rooms are
your typical glass
front, open walkway motel with carports in front.
The length of the L or
U is approx 800ft. with the distance across the
points about 4-500 ft.

How well will say an AP w/omni setting ontop of the
center building
cover such a setup? Or do I need to lean toward
several Ap's w 90 -120
sectors pointed at different sections of the
buildings? Or other ideas I
have not considered. This will be my first setup
like this.

 


Mark McElvy



 


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Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-22 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Mark: The professional RF Planning software is good
for large designs.  There is also freeware available
and I will let the cat out of the bag.  
http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
Radio Mobile software is a copyright of Roger
Coud?VE2DBE. Radio Mobile is dedicated to amateur
radio and humanitarian use. Although commercial use is
not prohibited, the author cannot be held responsible
for its usage. The outputs resulting from the program
are under the entire responsibility of the user, and
the user should conform to restrictions from external
data sources
http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html

Caveat:  Many wireless starters and subject matter
experts use the Radio Mobile software as a "first
glance" tool.  Because I'm an advocate of the
WiFi/WiMax inteface, I would like to think the tool
can be used for walking Mobile Radio too. 

Felix
Wireless Practioneer

--- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am putting together a quote for an older motel.
> They want to provide
> wireless access for their customers. The build is a
> big curving L or
> almost U with a set of rooms in the middle. It is
> all one story but the
> rise in elevation as it curves around. The rooms are
> your typical glass
> front, open walkway motel with carports in front.
> The length of the L or
> U is approx 800ft. with the distance across the
> points about 4-500 ft.
> 
> How well will say an AP w/omni setting ontop of the
> center building
> cover such a setup? Or do I need to lean toward
> several Ap's w 90 -120
> sectors pointed at different sections of the
> buildings? Or other ideas I
> have not considered. This will be my first setup
> like this.
> 
>  
> 
> Mark McElvy
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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RE: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-22 Thread Mark McElvy
I agree, I am just looking for some experienced opinions to start with.

Mark McElvy
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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

I wouldn't think one a/p would be the way to cover it. User will moan
and
complain if they get a weak signal. You really want to concentrate on
getting 105% coverage to avoid the phone ringing off the hook. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel


Single AP in the center with an omni might work although we have had 
pretty poor luck getting them to work well in the usual L shaped motels 
we have. If price is a serious issue you could always start with the 
omni setup and see how well it works I would just be prepared to switch 
to a multiple AP setup.

We have had a lot better luck mounting several under the eaves. We use 
to use CB3s in AP mode for this, but due to a bug in the senao cards we 
have switched to using deliberant or highgain internal APs in nema boxes

and have been having pretty good luck. You would probably need at least 
3 to cover your setup, one on each straight run.

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless


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RE: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-22 Thread Joe
I wouldn't think one a/p would be the way to cover it. User will moan and
complain if they get a weak signal. You really want to concentrate on
getting 105% coverage to avoid the phone ringing off the hook. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel


Single AP in the center with an omni might work although we have had 
pretty poor luck getting them to work well in the usual L shaped motels 
we have. If price is a serious issue you could always start with the 
omni setup and see how well it works I would just be prepared to switch 
to a multiple AP setup.

We have had a lot better luck mounting several under the eaves. We use 
to use CB3s in AP mode for this, but due to a bug in the senao cards we 
have switched to using deliberant or highgain internal APs in nema boxes 
and have been having pretty good luck. You would probably need at least 
3 to cover your setup, one on each straight run.

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless


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Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

2007-06-22 Thread Sam Tetherow
Single AP in the center with an omni might work although we have had 
pretty poor luck getting them to work well in the usual L shaped motels 
we have. If price is a serious issue you could always start with the 
omni setup and see how well it works I would just be prepared to switch 
to a multiple AP setup.


We have had a lot better luck mounting several under the eaves. We use 
to use CB3s in AP mode for this, but due to a bug in the senao cards we 
have switched to using deliberant or highgain internal APs in nema boxes 
and have been having pretty good luck. You would probably need at least 
3 to cover your setup, one on each straight run.


Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless

Mark McElvy wrote:

I am putting together a quote for an older motel. They want to provide
wireless access for their customers. The build is a big curving L or
almost U with a set of rooms in the middle. It is all one story but the
rise in elevation as it curves around. The rooms are your typical glass
front, open walkway motel with carports in front. The length of the L or
U is approx 800ft. with the distance across the points about 4-500 ft.

How well will say an AP w/omni setting ontop of the center building
cover such a setup? Or do I need to lean toward several Ap's w 90 -120
sectors pointed at different sections of the buildings? Or other ideas I
have not considered. This will be my first setup like this.

 


Mark McElvy



 

  


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