Re: [WISPA] FCC Form requirement
Hmm That response sounds framiliar
:-)
-B-
Rudy Worrell wrote:
Gents and fellow concerned WISP operators. I had the same questions most of
you have regarding FCC form 477. I went directly to the source as you will
see below. I got an answer and it is stated below.
At this time my opinions are not yet formed as we are now moving out of the
hobby type of operations towards carrier status. There is no doubt that we
must all make some decisions in the coming months that will determine the
future of WISP's as we now know it.
I don't have the answers but we should now think of a few things that come
to mind as we move forward.
1.) Security to this list (my customers can join along with anyone else)
2.) Frequent meetings
3.) We need formality and a great deal of lobbying for WISP.
-Original Message-
From: Ellen Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Lauren VanWazer; James Eisner
Subject: RE: Form requirement
Good afternoon, Mr. Worrell,
I'm responding to the email about FCC Form 477 that you sent to Jim
Eisner, and copying Lauren VanWazer, the Chair of the FCC's Wireless
Broadband Access Taskforce, so she'll be aware of the policy issues you
mention.
The reason Form 477 indicates an interest in your subscriber base and
location is that Congress, in the Telecommunications Act of 1996, told
the FCC to "determine whether advanced telecommunications capability is
being deployed to all Americans in a reasonable and timely fashion," and
the FCC decided that it needed to collect information about what it
calls "broadband" connections in order to do that. Congress told the
FCC to proceed "without regard to any transmission media or technology,"
so the Form 477 questions about broadband are not limited to only
telephone companies.
Form 477 is mandatory for "facilities based" providers of "broadband"
connections (as those terms are defined for purposes of Form 477).
We've developed a FAQ for the typical Form 477 situation for WISPs.
That FAQ appears immediately below, and the complete set of Form 477
FAQs is available at
http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html. (The form and
detailed reporting instructions for the filing due 3/1/06 are available
at www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477. If there are downloading problems
with those, please let me or Jim Eisner know.)
Best regards,
Ellen Burton
Assistant Chief, Industry Analysis and Technology Division
Wireline Competition Bureau
(202) 418-0958
* * * * * * * * * *
Form 477 FAQ #8.Are Wireless Internet Service Providers (WISPs)
exempt?
No. Entities that provide broadband connections to end user locations
by using spectrum on an unlicensed basis for the "last hop" to the end
user location must report information about those connections.
Typically this is done by completing the questions for broadband
category 7 ("terrestrial fixed wireless") in Part I of the form and also
filling in column (f) in Part V of the form. (If broadband connections
are reported in another technology category, such as "terrestrial mobile
wireless," please put a brief explanatory note into Part IV of the
form.) A WISP should consider the user data rate (as opposed to the
over-the-air raw data rate, for example) when determining whether
connections are broadband for purposes of Form 477. (A broadband
connection enables the end user to receive information from and/or send
information to the Internet at information transfer rates exceeding 200
kbps in at least one direction. See also FAQ #5.)
A WISP should not report subscribers to its broadband Internet-access
service when that service is delivered over a broadband connection to
the end user location that the WISP, or the WISP's customer, has
obtained from an unaffiliated entity such as a municipality, public
utility district, or DSL service provider ("DSL wholesaler.") The
underlying, facilities-based providers of wired broadband connections to
end user locations are responsible for reporting them, and any
particular broadband connection should be reported only once in this
data collection. See also FAQ #10.
Part II and Part III of Form 477 - which are the parts of the form where
information about local telephone service is collected - may not apply
to particular WISPs:
* Only WISPs that are authorized (by the WISP's state
telecommunications regulator) to operate as a CLEC need to consider Part
II of the form, and they should also see FAQ #13.
* Only WISPs that offer mobile telephone service as commercial
mobile radio service (CMRS) providers need to consider Part III of the
form. Note that CMRS providers typically hold or operate spectrum
licenses for cellular, PCS, or SMR services.
* * * * * * * * * *
-Original Message-
From: Rudolph Worrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:35 PM
To: James Eisner
Subject: Form requirement
I am aware of form 47
Re: [WISPA] FCC Form requirement
Rudy Worrell wrote: I don't have the answers but we should now think of a few things that come to mind as we move forward. 1.) Security to this list (my customers can join along with anyone else) Paid WISPA Principle Members have a members only list server called [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not open to anyone other than paid WISPA Principle Members. We keep this wireless@wispa.org list open to the public to attract new membership by allowing them to see what we are working on to some degree. Issues we do not want exposed to outside world are generally discussed in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list server. So the long and short of it is this, we plan to leave this list open for now and keep the paid membership list for members only. 2.) Frequent meetings The board meets via IRC at least once a month. In person meetings are not feasible with only 47 paid members. We do have some in person meetings of members at the FCC headquarters when they meet to discuss issues with FCC regarding our industry. I would like to see us do this more. It takes money. I would like to have at least one nice formal meeting a year with all members and we may do this at some point. It is common for WISPA members to arrange to meet at shows and such. Until we get more than 47 paid members it is unlikely WISPA will be hosting many in person meeting events. 3.) We need formality and a great deal of lobbying for WISP. Lobbying can be extremely expensive. The costs for what work we have done at the FCC and Senate have largely been subsidized out of pocket by members who want to help. We need more members in this organization. Paid members that is. If you or anyone you know has not paid your dues then fill out the form at http://signup.wispa.org and we will get you invoiced for your dues and set you up in WISPA. Good post, Rudy. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Form requirement
John, Thank you for the response. I am hoping that everyone including myself will pony up be a paid member. My issue is simply not having the time. Installer,CEO,support, tower engineer, and I am sure you know the rest. I know we all work but is there anyone out there with some free time to give us all a call and make us pay. That would work for me because then it is in my ear. Furthermore can you direct us all to the mission of WISPA and what we are doing along with what we could possibly help with. I think that involvement would bring in the bucks and to tell you the truth a face to face meeting once a year will not hurt. We can all turn off the support calls and cross our fingers hoping nothing breaks while we are gone. Rudy Quoting John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Rudy Worrell wrote: > > >I don't have the answers but we should now think of a few things that come > >to mind as we move forward. > > > >1.) Security to this list (my customers can join along with anyone else) > > > > > Paid WISPA Principle Members have a members only list server called > [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not open to anyone other than paid WISPA Principle > Members. We keep this wireless@wispa.org list open to the public to > attract new membership by allowing them to see what we are working on to > some degree. Issues we do not want exposed to outside world are > generally discussed in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list server. So the long and > short of it is this, we plan to leave this list open for now and keep > the paid membership list for members only. > > >2.) Frequent meetings > > > > > The board meets via IRC at least once a month. In person meetings are > not feasible with only 47 paid members. We do have some in person > meetings of members at the FCC headquarters when they meet to discuss > issues with FCC regarding our industry. I would like to see us do this > more. It takes money. I would like to have at least one nice formal > meeting a year with all members and we may do this at some point. It is > common for WISPA members to arrange to meet at shows and such. Until we > get more than 47 paid members it is unlikely WISPA will be hosting many > in person meeting events. > > >3.) We need formality and a great deal of lobbying for WISP. > > > > > Lobbying can be extremely expensive. The costs for what work we have > done at the FCC and Senate have largely been subsidized out of pocket by > members who want to help. We need more members in this organization. > Paid members that is. If you or anyone you know has not paid your dues > then fill out the form at http://signup.wispa.org and we will get you > invoiced for your dues and set you up in WISPA. Good post, Rudy. > Scriv > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Form requirement
- Original Message - From: "Rudolph Worrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form requirement John, Thank you for the response. I am hoping that everyone including myself will pony up be a paid member. My issue is simply not having the time. Installer,CEO,support, tower engineer, and I am sure you know the rest. I know we all work but is there anyone out there with some free time to give us all a call and make us pay. That would work for me because then it is in my ear. Furthermore can you direct us all to the mission of WISPA and what we are doing along with what we could possibly help with. I think that involvement would bring in the bucks and to tell you the truth a face to face meeting once a year will not hurt. We can all turn off the support calls and cross our fingers hoping nothing breaks while we are gone. I'll be at the next EC expo (www.ec-expo.com) in Denver. It's a free show if that helps. It's very salesy but there are also a lot of manufacturer trainging classes available. laters, marlon Rudy -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
