Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced
I was reading bottom up, and probably would not have sent my last message, had I read the later ones first. I appologize as well, I need to learn to let some things roll off, and be less confrontational. Back to work :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 19:45 -0500, Butch Evans wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 01:48 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: How in the world could you distort my comment to mean vendors are evil? I made a comment to PROTECT Vendors' interests. Here is exactly what I responded to: By way of apology to the list let me say this: The message I sent to the list regarding the question of recording and archiving the vendor sessions that Forbes set up did not read with the tone that I intended. It was pointed out to me that it sounded contentious (bickering was the actual word used). It was not intended that way at all. I wanted to make a public apology for those that read my message and took it in that way. In my message, I simply wanted to clarify my thoughts on recording the sessions and apologize to Tom for the overly strong way words I used to describe HIS message. Either way, I apologize that my message carried a tone that I did not intend. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2116 - Release Date: 5/15/2009 6:16 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced
In previous life I was a product manager for Cisco and two smaller networking vendors. I presented to 100s of groups under various scenarios - everything from a user group with 10 people in Grinnell Iowa, to 2,000 people at Networkers, to private briefings at Cisco's HQ. From the vendor perspective, WISPA is asking the vendor to make a public presentation to a user group about their company, products and technology. If I am the vendor, I make the following assumptions: 1. Everything I say is public and no one is under NDA which means I will not disclose confidential or proprietary information. 2. The event will be recorded either by the user group or someone attending the webinar at their desk. 3. My competitors will be listening to the event most likely using an alias to attend event. 4. The audience might include people that use our products and are fans of the company. The audience might include people that don't like the products and the company. The audience will include people that don't know anything about the company. 5. There will be people in the audience from smaller organizations that don't have direct contact with the company and this is a great opportunity to hear from them directly. Vendors love to hear from directly from people that actually run a network every day rather than having it filtered through sales force and the channel. So, WISPA should: 1. Let the vendor know well in advance that the webinar will be recorded and posted on the WISPA website with member only access. 2. At the beginning of the webinar, the host needs to remind everyone that the webinar is being recorded. The reminder needs to be recorded. 3. After the event, post the recording as is. No editing, no vendor review, just post it. The vendor gave their consent when after being notified that the event was being recorded, they agreed to do the event. Tim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I think if the vendor agrees to speak before WISPA then the recording should really be implied. There is absolutely nothing implied. It takes like 2 seconds to ASK the vendor the question, and there is absolutely no reason why it shouldn't or couldn't be asked. So why not just Ask the question? You do one of two things... 1) Before Webinar state, Be aware that this Webinar will be archived for full membership's future viewing or 2) After Webinar ask, How did you think it went? We'd like to archive the webinar so other members can benefit from viewing it, Is taht OK? Then no one gets sued. Then no one complains after the fact. Then nobody gets discruntled. And the Vendor now actually knows about it, and may actually consider it an additional VALUE-ADD Free marketing opportuntiy that WISPA is giving them. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I think if the vendor agrees to speak before WISPA then the recording should really be implied. WISPA has all the right in the world to archieve their media and if they are hosting the webinar for the benefit of their members. Now if WISPA wanted to sell the webinar to someone outside the WISPA membership that may require a release but not for membership distribution. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:17:55 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I know a lot of people feel that way, but it's bull. If it's that important, don't divulge it to anyone in the first place, which defeats the purpose of the webinar or any presentation to your clients of any kind. Once it's released, your technology is just as good as someone else's anyway. What's to prevent your competitor that you're afraid of from directly attending the webinar? It kinda goes along with the privileged email thread. Trust me, there is very little if anything any vendor or WISP does that's secret or special. Intel, IBM, AMD, etc... I'll buy it. None of these guys. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:26 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Although I think that would be a good idea, before such is done, make sure the vendor authorizes it to occur. Depending
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced
Tim, Yes, your 1,2,3 approach w/ Advanced Disclosure will likely address the issue just fine. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tim Sylvester t...@avanzarnetworks.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced In previous life I was a product manager for Cisco and two smaller networking vendors. I presented to 100s of groups under various scenarios - everything from a user group with 10 people in Grinnell Iowa, to 2,000 people at Networkers, to private briefings at Cisco's HQ. From the vendor perspective, WISPA is asking the vendor to make a public presentation to a user group about their company, products and technology. If I am the vendor, I make the following assumptions: 1. Everything I say is public and no one is under NDA which means I will not disclose confidential or proprietary information. 2. The event will be recorded either by the user group or someone attending the webinar at their desk. 3. My competitors will be listening to the event most likely using an alias to attend event. 4. The audience might include people that use our products and are fans of the company. The audience might include people that don't like the products and the company. The audience will include people that don't know anything about the company. 5. There will be people in the audience from smaller organizations that don't have direct contact with the company and this is a great opportunity to hear from them directly. Vendors love to hear from directly from people that actually run a network every day rather than having it filtered through sales force and the channel. So, WISPA should: 1. Let the vendor know well in advance that the webinar will be recorded and posted on the WISPA website with member only access. 2. At the beginning of the webinar, the host needs to remind everyone that the webinar is being recorded. The reminder needs to be recorded. 3. After the event, post the recording as is. No editing, no vendor review, just post it. The vendor gave their consent when after being notified that the event was being recorded, they agreed to do the event. Tim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I think if the vendor agrees to speak before WISPA then the recording should really be implied. There is absolutely nothing implied. It takes like 2 seconds to ASK the vendor the question, and there is absolutely no reason why it shouldn't or couldn't be asked. So why not just Ask the question? You do one of two things... 1) Before Webinar state, Be aware that this Webinar will be archived for full membership's future viewing or 2) After Webinar ask, How did you think it went? We'd like to archive the webinar so other members can benefit from viewing it, Is taht OK? Then no one gets sued. Then no one complains after the fact. Then nobody gets discruntled. And the Vendor now actually knows about it, and may actually consider it an additional VALUE-ADD Free marketing opportuntiy that WISPA is giving them. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I think if the vendor agrees to speak before WISPA then the recording should really be implied. WISPA has all the right in the world to archieve their media and if they are hosting the webinar for the benefit of their members. Now if WISPA wanted to sell the webinar to someone outside the WISPA membership that may require a release but not for membership distribution. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:17:55 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I know a lot of people feel that way, but it's bull. If it's that important, don't divulge it to anyone in the first place, which defeats the purpose of the webinar or any presentation to your clients of any kind. Once it's released, your technology is just as good as someone else's anyway. What's to prevent your competitor that you're afraid of from directly attending the webinar? It kinda goes along with the privileged email thread. Trust me, there is very little if anything any vendor or WISP does that's secret or special. Intel, IBM, AMD, etc... I'll buy it. None of these guys. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 01:48 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: How in the world could you distort my comment to mean vendors are evil? I made a comment to PROTECT Vendors' interests. Here is exactly what I responded to: On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 16:26 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. The idea that a vendor will hold back important information is just silly. My comment may have been overly strong, and, if so, I apologize if you feel I distorted your statement. Either way, your later comments did not make me (as a vendor) feel like you were attacking (where this one, along with MANY of your posts) did/do. It is common practice for radio manufacturers to keep the details of their products confidential from other competitors in the market space. Yeah, so what? You mean to say that if you just tell them we aren't recording, they will reveal something that they would not do if a session were being recorded? How can you assure them that their competitors would not be in attendance at the LIVE seminar? Oh, wait, you can't. Maybe they will be no more likely to reveal corporate secrets whether recorded or not. Wait, that last sentence is EXACTLY what I said the first time. Maybe this time you will read the rest of the message. Atleast 50% of the manufacturers I have delt with over the years have asked for NDAs before sending me a manual, detailed feature set, or price sheet. Not sure who you've dealt with, but MOST of the vendors (in particular, UBNT, who we are talking about for the first session) posts this information on their website. It is ONLY RESPECTFUL to ask the vendors presenting whether they DO or DO NOT want their QA / presentations archived. 1. IF this is a session being promoted by WISPA for it's membership, then any vendor asked to present should be TOLD that we WILL be recording and providing the session for current and FUTURE members. 2. IF any vendor cannot live with reality number 1, then they should not be allowed to participate in these sessions. This is really a simple formula to follow. That is, after all, the whole purpose for WISPA promoting these events. These presentations are QA where the vendors are likely to get blind-sided by questions that they might not be prepared to answer optimally. QA is great for the WISP attendees, but the vendor may not want their non-optimal unprepaired answers to be the ones Posted to the wide world of Membership to permanently judge them by. This is pretty simple, too. The archives will be placed on a WIKI. That being the case, we can simply permit the vendors to make comments directly below the link to the recording. As a matter of fact, every conference that I have ever spoken at, had a proceedure for getting a paper signed that the presentation would or wouldn't be able to be archived for future read. I have spoken at a LOT of conferences. This has never been an issue for me. Nobody has ever asked. I know, without question, that WISPCON, ISPCON, MUM, IT Expo and COMDEX do not require this. Many of those record (or did) sessions. I have never signed a release. I didn't say archiving was a BAD idea? I didn't say Vendors wouldn't want it done. I said we shouldn't assume they do and archive it without permission or release. Read my 2 points above. If someone does not want to offer this as a member benefit, then they should participate in WISPA in another way. It seems pretty simple to me. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 19:45 -0500, Butch Evans wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 01:48 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: How in the world could you distort my comment to mean vendors are evil? I made a comment to PROTECT Vendors' interests. Here is exactly what I responded to: By way of apology to the list let me say this: The message I sent to the list regarding the question of recording and archiving the vendor sessions that Forbes set up did not read with the tone that I intended. It was pointed out to me that it sounded contentious (bickering was the actual word used). It was not intended that way at all. I wanted to make a public apology for those that read my message and took it in that way. In my message, I simply wanted to clarify my thoughts on recording the sessions and apologize to Tom for the overly strong way words I used to describe HIS message. Either way, I apologize that my message carried a tone that I did not intend. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I work quite well with my competition. ;-) They scratch my back, I scratch theirs. Anything company A can do, company B can do. They may choose to do different things, but they're entirely capable of doing the same, whatever it is. Whatever it is that company A does, you can rest assured that company C, D, or E probably does the same thing. Differentiation is not about capabilities, but about choices. I stand by my statement... Trust me, there is very little if anything any vendor or WISP does that's secret or special. That's why I don't understand the aversion to sharing coverage, frequencies, locations, even customer counts. Someone could very well drive around and gather all of that information themselves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:32 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I hate to insert myself into a thread I don't really care about nor have been paying attention to, but I feel compelled to reply to this due to one sentence you stated... == Trust me, there is very little if anything any vendor or WISP does that's secret or special. == If you don't feel there is anything -- technological or business practice -- that sets you apart from the next guy then why bother? I may buy the same parts you do, but how I use them to excel my business I feel is very important and privileged information. Heck, the difference between the way you install a radio and the way I do could mean the difference between going out of business and making a million. I strongly disagree with your statement and believe everyone has their secret or special ways they do lots of things that allows them to be successful... From your opinion sounds like you would let a competitor come in and join you for a weeks co-op to see how you do everything... I would never allow that. If you wouldn't allow them to spend some time with you maybe you should re-think your comment :) Lastly, I might be talking about something that wasn't even part of this thread which is entirely possible lol Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:18 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I know a lot of people feel that way, but it's bull. If it's that important, don't divulge it to anyone in the first place, which defeats the purpose of the webinar or any presentation to your clients of any kind. Once it's released, your technology is just as good as someone else's anyway. What's to prevent your competitor that you're afraid of from directly attending the webinar? It kinda goes along with the privileged email thread. Trust me, there is very little if anything any vendor or WISP does that's secret or special. Intel, IBM, AMD, etc... I'll buy it. None of these guys. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:26 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Although I think that would be a good idea, before such is done, make sure the vendor authorizes it to occur. Depending on the outcome of the meeting, they may or may not want it as public record. And as teh vendor member they should ahve the right to determine if their webinar can go on the archive or not. Otherwise we'd need the vendor to sign a relase form in advance, as a condition of the webinar. But I dont recomend that. If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Can I make a recommendation that someone record it and put it in a members only area for review by new members. Great idea getting the manufacturers to present. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:54:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced This is to WISPA Members, if you're not a member you have time to join! LEAVE YOUR CALENDAR OPEN FOR NOVEMBER 4th at 2PM Eastern, 11AM Pacific and all time zones in between. WISPA Promotions announce the first ever
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That made me smile. I have customers WAY out in the boonies I have a hard time finding 2 or 3 years after the install. Mike G At 09:17 PM 10/25/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: That's why I don't understand the aversion to sharing coverage, frequencies, locations, even customer counts. Someone could very well drive around and gather all of that information themselves. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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That is a great attitude. Are you also a local politician? :-) At 09:17 PM 10/25/2009, you wrote: I work quite well with my competition. ;-) They scratch my back, I scratch theirs. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Butch, This has never been an issue for me. Nobody has ever asked. I know, without question, that WISPCON, ISPCON, MUM, IT Expo and COMDEX do not require this Well, I can tell you for ISPCON it was standard proceedure, and the release document was in the speaker package online that was supposed to be signed. I actually remember one case, when I was on the advisory committee, where Tim Sanders was unwilling to sign, because all his presentations were copywrited, and he was given permission not to have to share his slides. Yeah, so what? You mean to say that if you just tell them we aren't recording, they will reveal something that they would not do if a session were being recorded? How can you assure them that their competitors would not be in attendance at the LIVE seminar? Oh, wait, you can't. Maybe they will be no more likely to reveal corporate secrets whether recorded or not. Wait, that last sentence is EXACTLY what I said the first time. Maybe this time you will read the rest of the message. Most professional that put on Webinars require that the attendees identify themselves to register, so Vendors do know who is in the audience. (Good examples are Alvarion Webinars). 1. IF this is a session being promoted by WISPA for it's membership, then any vendor asked to present should be TOLD that we WILL be recording and providing the session for current and FUTURE members. 2. IF any vendor cannot live with reality number 1, then they should not be allowed to participate in these sessions. I guess the difference between you and me is that I dont just tell them the way its going to be. I generally work with my partners to ask and discuss how we can make the event better to meet the needs of both parties. If we make it to much of a hassle, they'll just do their own Webinars their own way. Anyway, this is an open list that includes vendors. I haven't heard any vendors chime in with objections, so maybe they are fine with Archiving. But again, I never said archiving wasn't a good idea, just initially the approach was flawed. There is a more clear approach now. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 01:48 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: How in the world could you distort my comment to mean vendors are evil? I made a comment to PROTECT Vendors' interests. Here is exactly what I responded to: On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 16:26 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. The idea that a vendor will hold back important information is just silly. My comment may have been overly strong, and, if so, I apologize if you feel I distorted your statement. Either way, your later comments did not make me (as a vendor) feel like you were attacking (where this one, along with MANY of your posts) did/do. It is common practice for radio manufacturers to keep the details of their products confidential from other competitors in the market space. Yeah, so what? You mean to say that if you just tell them we aren't recording, they will reveal something that they would not do if a session were being recorded? How can you assure them that their competitors would not be in attendance at the LIVE seminar? Oh, wait, you can't. Maybe they will be no more likely to reveal corporate secrets whether recorded or not. Wait, that last sentence is EXACTLY what I said the first time. Maybe this time you will read the rest of the message. Atleast 50% of the manufacturers I have delt with over the years have asked for NDAs before sending me a manual, detailed feature set, or price sheet. Not sure who you've dealt with, but MOST of the vendors (in particular, UBNT, who we are talking about for the first session) posts this information on their website. It is ONLY RESPECTFUL to ask the vendors presenting whether they DO or DO NOT want their QA / presentations archived. 1. IF this is a session being promoted by WISPA for it's membership, then any vendor asked to present should be TOLD that we WILL be recording and providing the session for current and FUTURE members. 2. IF any vendor cannot live with reality number 1, then they should not be allowed to participate in these sessions. This is really a simple formula to follow. That is, after all, the whole purpose for WISPA promoting these events. These presentations are QA where the vendors are likely to get blind-sided by questions that they might not be prepared to answer optimally. QA is great for the WISP attendees, but the vendor may not want their non-optimal unprepaired answers to be the ones Posted to the wide world of Membership
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Although I think that would be a good idea, before such is done, make sure the vendor authorizes it to occur. Depending on the outcome of the meeting, they may or may not want it as public record. And as teh vendor member they should ahve the right to determine if their webinar can go on the archive or not. Otherwise we'd need the vendor to sign a relase form in advance, as a condition of the webinar. But I dont recomend that. If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Can I make a recommendation that someone record it and put it in a members only area for review by new members. Great idea getting the manufacturers to present. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:54:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced This is to WISPA Members, if you're not a member you have time to join! LEAVE YOUR CALENDAR OPEN FOR NOVEMBER 4th at 2PM Eastern, 11AM Pacific and all time zones in between. WISPA Promotions announce the first ever Webinar. This event is our outreach for members only, a personal visit from a product manufacturer relevant to our industry. We are hoping to make this a regular event with different member manufacturers in our industry. It is a pure question/answer session. Several top administrators and highly-placed technical staff from a manufacturer will be available to answer questions about any topic from specifications to distribution/inventory control or future releases. The first session will be with Ubiquity, the fast growing manufacturer of many popular radios. This idea came from a long thread of member emails that essentially were 'guessing' about what these radios could or could not do. We consider these answers 'from the horse's mouth', and a rare chance to talk to someone knowledgeable. Again this is a session for paid members only as a service of WISPA as we add value to your membership. The personnel attending from Ubiquity are: Mike Ford - Technical Support and Applications Manager Ben Moore - VP Bus. Dev. We invite other manufacturers to email our Promotions Committee so we may make this exclusive feature available on an ongoing basis. Simply email for...@wispa.org and we can put together a schedule for these sessions. These are not sales presentations and video content is at the option of the manufacturer. The session will run 30-45 minutes for this first one. As it is our trial edition many of the rules and procedures for future sessions will be based on how this session runs. The exact details of how to access, and the moderated rules for this forum will be released Monday, November 2nd. This Webinar is for you to learn more about the Vendors and their equipment, we hope you attend and thank you for being a member of WISPA! Forbes Mercy WISPA Promotions Committee Chair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2116 - Release Date: 5/15/2009 6:16 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 16:26 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. Because vendors are all evil? Why would you think this is the case? NOBODY (vendor or otherwise) would release information to the public any differently whether there was to be an archive or not. I believe that keeping an archive (at least for 30 days or so) is a good idea. It won't be public, as the archive will be in the member's wiki. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Yes, it would have to be a member only video at that :) --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training -- Learn RouterOS BOOK! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 16:26 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. Because vendors are all evil? Why would you think this is the case? NOBODY (vendor or otherwise) would release information to the public any differently whether there was to be an archive or not. I believe that keeping an archive (at least for 30 days or so) is a good idea. It won't be public, as the archive will be in the member's wiki. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I know a lot of people feel that way, but it's bull. If it's that important, don't divulge it to anyone in the first place, which defeats the purpose of the webinar or any presentation to your clients of any kind. Once it's released, your technology is just as good as someone else's anyway. What's to prevent your competitor that you're afraid of from directly attending the webinar? It kinda goes along with the privileged email thread. Trust me, there is very little if anything any vendor or WISP does that's secret or special. Intel, IBM, AMD, etc... I'll buy it. None of these guys. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:26 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Although I think that would be a good idea, before such is done, make sure the vendor authorizes it to occur. Depending on the outcome of the meeting, they may or may not want it as public record. And as teh vendor member they should ahve the right to determine if their webinar can go on the archive or not. Otherwise we'd need the vendor to sign a relase form in advance, as a condition of the webinar. But I dont recomend that. If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Can I make a recommendation that someone record it and put it in a members only area for review by new members. Great idea getting the manufacturers to present. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:54:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced This is to WISPA Members, if you're not a member you have time to join! LEAVE YOUR CALENDAR OPEN FOR NOVEMBER 4th at 2PM Eastern, 11AM Pacific and all time zones in between. WISPA Promotions announce the first ever Webinar. This event is our outreach for members only, a personal visit from a product manufacturer relevant to our industry. We are hoping to make this a regular event with different member manufacturers in our industry. It is a pure question/answer session. Several top administrators and highly-placed technical staff from a manufacturer will be available to answer questions about any topic from specifications to distribution/inventory control or future releases. The first session will be with Ubiquity, the fast growing manufacturer of many popular radios. This idea came from a long thread of member emails that essentially were 'guessing' about what these radios could or could not do. We consider these answers 'from the horse's mouth', and a rare chance to talk to someone knowledgeable. Again this is a session for paid members only as a service of WISPA as we add value to your membership. The personnel attending from Ubiquity are: Mike Ford - Technical Support and Applications Manager Ben Moore - VP Bus. Dev. We invite other manufacturers to email our Promotions Committee so we may make this exclusive feature available on an ongoing basis. Simply email for...@wispa.org and we can put together a schedule for these sessions. These are not sales presentations and video content is at the option of the manufacturer. The session will run 30-45 minutes for this first one. As it is our trial edition many of the rules and procedures for future sessions will be based on how this session runs. The exact details of how to access, and the moderated rules for this forum will be released Monday, November 2nd. This Webinar is for you to learn more about the Vendors and their equipment, we hope you attend and thank you for being a member of WISPA! Forbes Mercy WISPA Promotions Committee Chair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced
I hate to insert myself into a thread I don't really care about nor have been paying attention to, but I feel compelled to reply to this due to one sentence you stated... == Trust me, there is very little if anything any vendor or WISP does that's secret or special. == If you don't feel there is anything -- technological or business practice -- that sets you apart from the next guy then why bother? I may buy the same parts you do, but how I use them to excel my business I feel is very important and privileged information. Heck, the difference between the way you install a radio and the way I do could mean the difference between going out of business and making a million. I strongly disagree with your statement and believe everyone has their secret or special ways they do lots of things that allows them to be successful... From your opinion sounds like you would let a competitor come in and join you for a weeks co-op to see how you do everything... I would never allow that. If you wouldn't allow them to spend some time with you maybe you should re-think your comment :) Lastly, I might be talking about something that wasn't even part of this thread which is entirely possible lol Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:18 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I know a lot of people feel that way, but it's bull. If it's that important, don't divulge it to anyone in the first place, which defeats the purpose of the webinar or any presentation to your clients of any kind. Once it's released, your technology is just as good as someone else's anyway. What's to prevent your competitor that you're afraid of from directly attending the webinar? It kinda goes along with the privileged email thread. Trust me, there is very little if anything any vendor or WISP does that's secret or special. Intel, IBM, AMD, etc... I'll buy it. None of these guys. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:26 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Although I think that would be a good idea, before such is done, make sure the vendor authorizes it to occur. Depending on the outcome of the meeting, they may or may not want it as public record. And as teh vendor member they should ahve the right to determine if their webinar can go on the archive or not. Otherwise we'd need the vendor to sign a relase form in advance, as a condition of the webinar. But I dont recomend that. If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Can I make a recommendation that someone record it and put it in a members only area for review by new members. Great idea getting the manufacturers to present. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:54:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced This is to WISPA Members, if you're not a member you have time to join! LEAVE YOUR CALENDAR OPEN FOR NOVEMBER 4th at 2PM Eastern, 11AM Pacific and all time zones in between. WISPA Promotions announce the first ever Webinar. This event is our outreach for members only, a personal visit from a product manufacturer relevant to our industry. We are hoping to make this a regular event with different member manufacturers in our industry. It is a pure question/answer session. Several top administrators and highly-placed technical staff from a manufacturer will be available to answer questions about any topic from specifications to distribution/inventory control or future releases. The first session will be with Ubiquity, the fast growing manufacturer of many popular radios. This idea came from a long thread of member emails that essentially were 'guessing' about what these radios could or could not do. We consider these answers 'from the horse's mouth', and a rare chance to talk to someone knowledgeable. Again this is a session for paid members only as a service of WISPA as we add value to your membership. The personnel attending from Ubiquity are: Mike Ford - Technical Support
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced
I think if the vendor agrees to speak before WISPA then the recording should really be implied. WISPA has all the right in the world to archieve their media and if they are hosting the webinar for the benefit of their members. Now if WISPA wanted to sell the webinar to someone outside the WISPA membership that may require a release but not for membership distribution. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:17:55 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I know a lot of people feel that way, but it's bull. If it's that important, don't divulge it to anyone in the first place, which defeats the purpose of the webinar or any presentation to your clients of any kind. Once it's released, your technology is just as good as someone else's anyway. What's to prevent your competitor that you're afraid of from directly attending the webinar? It kinda goes along with the privileged email thread. Trust me, there is very little if anything any vendor or WISP does that's secret or special. Intel, IBM, AMD, etc... I'll buy it. None of these guys. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:26 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Although I think that would be a good idea, before such is done, make sure the vendor authorizes it to occur. Depending on the outcome of the meeting, they may or may not want it as public record. And as teh vendor member they should ahve the right to determine if their webinar can go on the archive or not. Otherwise we'd need the vendor to sign a relase form in advance, as a condition of the webinar. But I dont recomend that. If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Can I make a recommendation that someone record it and put it in a members only area for review by new members. Great idea getting the manufacturers to present. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:54:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced This is to WISPA Members, if you're not a member you have time to join! LEAVE YOUR CALENDAR OPEN FOR NOVEMBER 4th at 2PM Eastern, 11AM Pacific and all time zones in between. WISPA Promotions announce the first ever Webinar. This event is our outreach for members only, a personal visit from a product manufacturer relevant to our industry. We are hoping to make this a regular event with different member manufacturers in our industry. It is a pure question/answer session. Several top administrators and highly-placed technical staff from a manufacturer will be available to answer questions about any topic from specifications to distribution/inventory control or future releases. The first session will be with Ubiquity, the fast growing manufacturer of many popular radios. This idea came from a long thread of member emails that essentially were 'guessing' about what these radios could or could not do. We consider these answers 'from the horse's mouth', and a rare chance to talk to someone knowledgeable. Again this is a session for paid members only as a service of WISPA as we add value to your membership. The personnel attending from Ubiquity are: Mike Ford - Technical Support and Applications Manager Ben Moore - VP Bus. Dev. We invite other manufacturers to email our Promotions Committee so we may make this exclusive feature available on an ongoing basis. Simply email for...@wispa.org and we can put together a schedule for these sessions. These are not sales presentations and video content is at the option of the manufacturer. The session will run 30-45 minutes for this first one. As it is our trial edition many of the rules and procedures for future sessions will be based on how this session runs. The exact details of how to access, and the moderated rules for this forum will be released Monday, November 2nd. This Webinar is for you to learn more about the Vendors and their equipment, we hope you attend and thank you for being a member of WISPA! Forbes Mercy WISPA Promotions Committee Chair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced
Butch, How in the world could you distort my comment to mean vendors are evil? I made a comment to PROTECT Vendors' interests. It is common practice for radio manufacturers to keep the details of their products confidential from other competitors in the market space. They put lots of time and money in RD to come up with unique features, which will stay unique if not immediately advertised to their competitors' RD departments. Atleast 50% of the manufacturers I have delt with over the years have asked for NDAs before sending me a manual, detailed feature set, or price sheet. It is ONLY RESPECTFUL to ask the vendors presenting whether they DO or DO NOT want their QA / presentations archived. These presentations are QA where the vendors are likely to get blind-sided by questions that they might not be prepared to answer optimally. QA is great for the WISP attendees, but the vendor may not want their non-optimal unprepaired answers to be the ones Posted to the wide world of Membership to permanently judge them by. As a matter of fact, every conference that I have ever spoken at, had a proceedure for getting a paper signed that the presentation would or wouldn't be able to be archived for future read. Every answering machine that records calls must disclose it in advance it is being recorded. You simply dont record people, and archive it for the general viewing over time, even if its for membership, without first asking the people you are recording, if you have their permission to record and archive it. I didn't say archiving was a BAD idea? I didn't say Vendors wouldn't want it done. I said we shouldn't assume they do and archive it without permission or release. Not only for legal reasons but for professional courtesy. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 16:26 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. Because vendors are all evil? Why would you think this is the case? NOBODY (vendor or otherwise) would release information to the public any differently whether there was to be an archive or not. I believe that keeping an archive (at least for 30 days or so) is a good idea. It won't be public, as the archive will be in the member's wiki. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2116 - Release Date: 5/15/2009 6:16 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced
I think if the vendor agrees to speak before WISPA then the recording should really be implied. There is absolutely nothing implied. It takes like 2 seconds to ASK the vendor the question, and there is absolutely no reason why it shouldn't or couldn't be asked. So why not just Ask the question? You do one of two things... 1) Before Webinar state, Be aware that this Webinar will be archived for full membership's future viewing or 2) After Webinar ask, How did you think it went? We'd like to archive the webinar so other members can benefit from viewing it, Is taht OK? Then no one gets sued. Then no one complains after the fact. Then nobody gets discruntled. And the Vendor now actually knows about it, and may actually consider it an additional VALUE-ADD Free marketing opportuntiy that WISPA is giving them. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I think if the vendor agrees to speak before WISPA then the recording should really be implied. WISPA has all the right in the world to archieve their media and if they are hosting the webinar for the benefit of their members. Now if WISPA wanted to sell the webinar to someone outside the WISPA membership that may require a release but not for membership distribution. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:17:55 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced I know a lot of people feel that way, but it's bull. If it's that important, don't divulge it to anyone in the first place, which defeats the purpose of the webinar or any presentation to your clients of any kind. Once it's released, your technology is just as good as someone else's anyway. What's to prevent your competitor that you're afraid of from directly attending the webinar? It kinda goes along with the privileged email thread. Trust me, there is very little if anything any vendor or WISP does that's secret or special. Intel, IBM, AMD, etc... I'll buy it. None of these guys. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:26 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Although I think that would be a good idea, before such is done, make sure the vendor authorizes it to occur. Depending on the outcome of the meeting, they may or may not want it as public record. And as teh vendor member they should ahve the right to determine if their webinar can go on the archive or not. Otherwise we'd need the vendor to sign a relase form in advance, as a condition of the webinar. But I dont recomend that. If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced Can I make a recommendation that someone record it and put it in a members only area for review by new members. Great idea getting the manufacturers to present. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:54:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced This is to WISPA Members, if you're not a member you have time to join! LEAVE YOUR CALENDAR OPEN FOR NOVEMBER 4th at 2PM Eastern, 11AM Pacific and all time zones in between. WISPA Promotions announce the first ever Webinar. This event is our outreach for members only, a personal visit from a product manufacturer relevant to our industry. We are hoping to make this a regular event with different member manufacturers in our industry. It is a pure question/answer session. Several top administrators and highly-placed technical staff from a manufacturer will be available to answer questions about any topic from specifications to distribution/inventory control or future releases. The first session will be with Ubiquity, the fast growing manufacturer of many popular radios. This idea came from a long thread of member emails that essentially were 'guessing' about what these radios could or could not do. We consider these answers 'from the horse's mouth', and a rare chance to talk to someone knowledgeable. Again this is a session for paid members only as a service
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced
Can I make a recommendation that someone record it and put it in a members only area for review by new members. Great idea getting the manufacturers to present. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:54:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced This is to WISPA Members, if you're not a member you have time to join! LEAVE YOUR CALENDAR OPEN FOR NOVEMBER 4th at 2PM Eastern, 11AM Pacific and all time zones in between. WISPA Promotions announce the first ever Webinar. This event is our outreach for members only, a personal visit from a product manufacturer relevant to our industry. We are hoping to make this a regular event with different member manufacturers in our industry. It is a pure question/answer session. Several top administrators and highly-placed technical staff from a manufacturer will be available to answer questions about any topic from specifications to distribution/inventory control or future releases. The first session will be with Ubiquity, the fast growing manufacturer of many popular radios. This idea came from a long thread of member emails that essentially were 'guessing' about what these radios could or could not do. We consider these answers 'from the horse's mouth', and a rare chance to talk to someone knowledgeable. Again this is a session for paid members only as a service of WISPA as we add value to your membership. The personnel attending from Ubiquity are: Mike Ford - Technical Support and Applications Manager Ben Moore - VP Bus. Dev. We invite other manufacturers to email our Promotions Committee so we may make this exclusive feature available on an ongoing basis. Simply email for...@wispa.org and we can put together a schedule for these sessions. These are not sales presentations and video content is at the option of the manufacturer. The session will run 30-45 minutes for this first one. As it is our trial edition many of the rules and procedures for future sessions will be based on how this session runs. The exact details of how to access, and the moderated rules for this forum will be released Monday, November 2nd. This Webinar is for you to learn more about the Vendors and their equipment, we hope you attend and thank you for being a member of WISPA! Forbes Mercy WISPA Promotions Committee Chair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
