RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android / Captive Portal / Madness

2015-06-03 Thread Turner, Ryan H
Thanks.  I run my users through pfSense, and not our Aruba controllers, for 
onboarding captive portal control (I like separating out the functions in this 
instance).  I assume it has to be something new with the new OS.  HOWEVER, my 
tablet (which I have for testing only, otherwise I would use it for a throw toy 
for my dog) in a Samsung running 5.0.2, the same version as the Samsung phone, 
and it does NOT present a limited captive portal login browser.

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Kitri Waterman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 2:36 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android / Captive Portal / Madness

Ryan,

In Cisco land, check out: config network web-auth captive-bypass enable

But from my experience, only Apple devices would would throw up the page 
automatically (captive-bypass disabled). So sounds like something changed with 
Droid?

Also, share that check!

Kitri Waterman
--
Network Engineer (Wireless)
University of Oregon

On 6/3/15 11:20 AM, Turner, Ryan H wrote:
So, in the same vein as my email last week...   On a new android phone running 
version 5.something, a captive portal is being detected by the device, and it 
brings up our login page.  Good so far.  But when they person gets to the point 
of downloading the onboarding software or launching the config file, I 'assume' 
the limited nature of the captive portal browser is not allowing those things 
to happen.  If I close the captive portal browser, and open chrome, everything 
works.

I did a packet trace, and noticed a few things it wants to connect to.  I 
opened up connectivitycheck.android.com.  Still no luck.

I am attempting to make it so when they connect, a limited browser does NOT 
launch, and for them to open chrome manually.  In the past, I haven't seen this 
problem, so in the even maddening world of Android (seriously, I have bad 
thoughts about what I would do if I had an android developer in front of me), 
has anyone seen this so far and figured a way out of it?

I am so tired of constantly chasing google.  I need them to send me a check 
(Apple can, too, while they are at it).

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android / Captive Portal / Madness

2015-06-03 Thread Turner, Ryan H
Steven,

Thanks, that is very helpful.  I think I figured out what I need to do.  If I 
allow connectivitycheck.android.com, it will probably work.  I tried to confirm 
that, but I am experiencing some bugs with pfSense,.  I didn't know about the 
three dots in the upper right.  Thanks!!



Ryan


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Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:33 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android / Captive Portal / Madness

Ryan,

Having just went through all these pains, I know where you coming from. It 
seems the network assistant was added in Android 5. I had this popping up when 
I had my services set as guest access, but not when doing it as a hotspot 
service. Also, if it does come up you can tap the 3 dots in the upper right 
corner and tell it to use this network as is and it will bypass the portal 
for you to use a web browser to complete the session.


Steven D Veron
Senior Network Analyst
Lamar University
Office- 409-880-2386
Cell- 409-351-5961
steven.ve...@lamar.edu





From: Ryan H Turner rhtur...@email.unc.edu
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:02:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android / Captive Portal / Madness

Thanks.  I run my users through pfSense, and not our Aruba controllers, for 
onboarding captive portal control (I like separating out the functions in this 
instance).  I assume it has to be something new with the new OS.  HOWEVER, my 
tablet (which I have for testing only, otherwise I would use it for a throw toy 
for my dog) in a Samsung running 5.0.2, the same version as the Samsung phone, 
and it does NOT present a limited captive portal login browser.

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Kitri Waterman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 2:36 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android / Captive Portal / Madness

Ryan,

In Cisco land, check out: config network web-auth captive-bypass enable

But from my experience, only Apple devices would would throw up the page 
automatically (captive-bypass disabled). So sounds like something changed with 
Droid?

Also, share that check!

Kitri Waterman
--
Network Engineer (Wireless)
University of Oregon

On 6/3/15 11:20 AM, Turner, Ryan H wrote:
So, in the same vein as my email last week…   On a new android phone running 
version 5.something, a captive portal is being detected by the device, and it 
brings up our login page.  Good so far.  But when they person gets to the point 
of downloading the onboarding software or launching the config file, I ‘assume’ 
the limited nature of the captive portal browser is not allowing those things 
to happen.  If I close the captive portal browser, and open chrome, everything 
works.

I did a packet trace, and noticed a few things it wants to connect to.  I 
opened up connectivitycheck.android.com.  Still no luck.

I am attempting to make it so when they connect, a limited browser does NOT 
launch, and for them to open chrome manually.  In the past, I haven’t seen this 
problem, so in the even maddening world of Android (seriously, I have bad 
thoughts about what I would do if I had an android developer in front of me), 
has anyone seen this so far and figured a way out of it?

I am so tired of constantly chasing google.  I need them to send me a check 
(Apple can, too, while they are at it).

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android / Captive Portal / Madness

2015-06-03 Thread Steven D. Veron
Ryan, 


Having just went through all these pains, I know where you coming from. It 
seems the network assistant was added in Android 5. I had this popping up when 
I had my services set as guest access, but not when doing it as a hotspot 
service. Also, if it does come up you can tap the 3 dots in the upper right 
corner and tell it to use this network as is and it will bypass the portal 
for you to use a web browser to complete the session. 



Steven D Veron 
Senior Network Analyst 
Lamar University 
Office- 409-880-2386 
Cell- 409-351-5961 
steven.ve...@lamar.edu 




- Original Message -

From: Ryan H Turner rhtur...@email.unc.edu 
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:02:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android / Captive Portal / Madness 



Thanks. I run my users through pfSense, and not our Aruba controllers, for 
onboarding captive portal control (I like separating out the functions in this 
instance). I assume it has to be something new with the new OS. HOWEVER, my 
tablet (which I have for testing only, otherwise I would use it for a throw toy 
for my dog) in a Samsung running 5.0.2, the same version as the Samsung phone, 
and it does NOT present a limited captive portal login browser. 


Ryan H Turner 
Senior Network Engineer 
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599 
+1 919 445 0113 Office 
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile 



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Kitri Waterman 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 2:36 PM 
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android / Captive Portal / Madness 

Ryan, 

In Cisco land, check out: config network web-auth captive-bypass enable 

But from my experience, only Apple devices would would throw up the page 
automatically (captive-bypass disabled). So sounds like something changed with 
Droid? 

Also, share that check! 

Kitri Waterman 
-- 
Network Engineer (Wireless) 
University of Oregon 



On 6/3/15 11:20 AM, Turner, Ryan H wrote: 


So, in the same vein as my email last week… On a new android phone running 
version 5.something, a captive portal is being detected by the device, and it 
brings up our login page. Good so far. But when they person gets to the point 
of downloading the onboarding software or launching the config file, I ‘assume’ 
the limited nature of the captive portal browser is not allowing those things 
to happen. If I close the captive portal browser, and open chrome, everything 
works. 

I did a packet trace, and noticed a few things it wants to connect to. I opened 
up connectivitycheck.android.com. Still no luck. 

I am attempting to make it so when they connect, a limited browser does NOT 
launch, and for them to open chrome manually. In the past, I haven’t seen this 
problem, so in the even maddening world of Android (seriously, I have bad 
thoughts about what I would do if I had an android developer in front of me), 
has anyone seen this so far and figured a way out of it? 

I am so tired of constantly chasing google. I need them to send me a check 
(Apple can, too, while they are at it). 

Ryan H Turner 
Senior Network Engineer 
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599 
+1 919 445 0113 Office 
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile 

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple support site network

2015-06-03 Thread Lee H Badman
​Bingo!


Lee H. Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003

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WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU on behalf of Jason Becker 
jbec...@wustl.edu
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 9:36 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple support site network

Lee, I was just talking that over with a co-worker to get his take on it.  I 
figured if I'm giving them their own ssid I'd be better off putting it on a 
rogue AP and make it more like a home network which Apple features work great 
on.



Jason Becker
Network Systems Engineer,
Network Planning and Services
Tel:(314)935-5006tel:(314)935-5006


On 6/3/15 8:00 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
I set up a private network, using Apple Airport as router (with WLAN off) and 
two fat Cisco APs running at ultra low power. Kept the whole trainwreck off of 
our enterprise WLAN.

-Lee

Lee Badman
Wireless/Network Architect
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
(Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.comhttp://wirednot.wordpress.com/)

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Wesley Troy Scott
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 4:02 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple support site network


Jason,



We did this too and used the same approach as Randy, an ssid dedicated to the 
Apple store along with a subnet. We also turned off bcmc-optimization on the 
vlan interface and built an Apple store role that looks a lot like our wireless 
guests. The mac mini hub is on the same network as the kiosks.



Troy Scott

Network Administrator

University of Wyoming





From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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on behalf of Jason Becker jbec...@wustl.edumailto:jbec...@wustl.edu
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:38 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple support site network

Thanks Randy,

If I have to go as far as to give them their own SSID I'll build it so the mac 
min and wireless devices are on the same network, BUT really don't want to 
start creating SSID's for each special circumstance that comes up.





Jason Becker

Network Systems Engineer,

Network Planning and Services

Tel:(314)935-5006tel:%28314%29935-5006
On 6/2/15 2:26 PM, Randy Mahurin wrote:
Jason,

I had to deal with the same issue (I believe) a couple of years ago.  
Essentially, we built a separate hidden WPA SSID for the display devices to 
connect to.  Also, had to build (or edit) a new mDNS profile to allow for 
tunesplay software.
We built a new mDNS profile only called by the SSID in the store.  Under 
general mDNS I had to add the following service name and service string, and 
then add those services to the new mDNS profile:

Name - tuneplay --- String- _tnp-hub._tcp.local.
Name - tuneplay_http -- String - _http._tcp.
Name - tuneplay_hub  -- String - _tnp-hub._tcp.

This link got me started - 
http://www.educause.edu/discuss/networking-and-emerging-technologies/wireless-local-area-networking-constituent-group/apple-tuneplay

Hope that helps

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Jason Becker 
jbec...@wustl.edumailto:jbec...@wustl.edu wrote:
Has anyone setup a network for a Apple support site on their Campus?  From what 
I get from the third party bookstore manger is they need to have a public ip on 
a mac min that can call home with and then have all the wireless display 
devices talk back to the mac min over Airdrop.  This is all the info I got from 
them.



Any help I can get is GREATLY appreciated!!


Thanks,

--
Jason Becker
Network Systems Engineer,
Network Planning and Services
Tel:(314)935-5006tel:%28314%29935-5006

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Boise State University
1910 University Drive, Boise, ID, 83725-1249
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple support site network

2015-06-03 Thread Lee H Badman
I set up a private network, using Apple Airport as router (with WLAN off) and 
two fat Cisco APs running at ultra low power. Kept the whole trainwreck off of 
our enterprise WLAN.

-Lee

Lee Badman
Wireless/Network Architect
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
(Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com)

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Wesley Troy Scott
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 4:02 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple support site network


Jason,



We did this too and used the same approach as Randy, an ssid dedicated to the 
Apple store along with a subnet. We also turned off bcmc-optimization on the 
vlan interface and built an Apple store role that looks a lot like our wireless 
guests. The mac mini hub is on the same network as the kiosks.



Troy Scott

Network Administrator

University of Wyoming




From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
on behalf of Jason Becker jbec...@wustl.edumailto:jbec...@wustl.edu
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:38 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple support site network

Thanks Randy,

If I have to go as far as to give them their own SSID I'll build it so the mac 
min and wireless devices are on the same network, BUT really don't want to 
start creating SSID's for each special circumstance that comes up.





Jason Becker

Network Systems Engineer,

Network Planning and Services

Tel:(314)935-5006
On 6/2/15 2:26 PM, Randy Mahurin wrote:
Jason,

I had to deal with the same issue (I believe) a couple of years ago.  
Essentially, we built a separate hidden WPA SSID for the display devices to 
connect to.  Also, had to build (or edit) a new mDNS profile to allow for 
tunesplay software.
We built a new mDNS profile only called by the SSID in the store.  Under 
general mDNS I had to add the following service name and service string, and 
then add those services to the new mDNS profile:

Name - tuneplay --- String- _tnp-hub._tcp.local.
Name - tuneplay_http -- String - _http._tcp.
Name - tuneplay_hub  -- String - _tnp-hub._tcp.

This link got me started - 
http://www.educause.edu/discuss/networking-and-emerging-technologies/wireless-local-area-networking-constituent-group/apple-tuneplay

Hope that helps

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Jason Becker 
jbec...@wustl.edumailto:jbec...@wustl.edu wrote:
Has anyone setup a network for a Apple support site on their Campus?  From what 
I get from the third party bookstore manger is they need to have a public ip on 
a mac min that can call home with and then have all the wireless display 
devices talk back to the mac min over Airdrop.  This is all the info I got from 
them.



Any help I can get is GREATLY appreciated!!


Thanks,

--
Jason Becker
Network Systems Engineer,
Network Planning and Services
Tel:(314)935-5006tel:%28314%29935-5006

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Office of Information Technology
Boise State University
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Phone: (208) 426-4003
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Remote Desktop over Wireless

2015-06-03 Thread Jeremy Gibbs
Have you tried a continuous ping while using ARD?  I find ARD is finicky,
slow and has a multitude of problems.  I do however use it on our wireless
network several times a week and have no issues with it.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Somchay Vongsena svongs...@pacific.edu
wrote:

   Does anyone have users experiencing problems using Apple Remote Desktop
 (ARD) over wireless?  The problem is inconsistent and when it does occur,
 seems like switching to wired then back to wireless fixes the problem.  Any
 Workaround?  Solution?  Or could it be just an issue with Apple Remote
 Desktop itself?  Any information would be helpful.



 · Windows to Windows over wired or wireless works fine no issues



 · Mac to Mac over wired works fine no issues



 · Mac to Mac over wireless does not seem to work well using Apple
 Remote Desktop



 · Combination of Mac to Mac (wireless to wired or wired to
 wireless) does not seem to work well using Apple Remote Desktop as well





 Thanks,



 *--*

 *Somchay Vongsena*

 Network Engineer II

 Pacific Technology

 University of the Pacific

 (209) 946-7671 | svongs...@pacific.edu


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-- 


*--Jeremy L. Gibbs*
Sr. Network Engineer
Utica College IITS

T: (315) 223-2383
F: (315) 792-3814
E: jlgi...@utica.edu
http://www.utica.edu

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Remote Desktop over Wireless

2015-06-03 Thread Somchay Vongsena
Yes, the continuous ping may see one random spike or one timeout here there but 
nothing significant.

I reached out to a Senior Systems Engineer from Apple and this what I was 
advised.

  *   I have seen poor DNS configurations cause problems with connectivity of 
any networking in OS X but especially on OS X Server. This is especially true 
in Active Directory (AD) environments where you may be authenticating against 
an AD user with Apple Remote Desktop but issues with DNS have caused problems 
with connecting. This can occur on one network versus another.

Our own System Administrator’s input regarding “poor DNS configurations”

I’m not sure if this is relevant for this application given the fact that both 
wireless and wired connections use the same DNS, and it is non-Windows with 
forwarders to Windows DNS for active directory requests (i.e. trying to talk to 
something or look up a service record on *.x.y.z).  This configuration is the 
same regardless of connection on our network if you’re using DHCP.

  *   As for the latest version of Apple Remote Desktop, especially, depending 
on the version of the OS the users are running there are several bugs that have 
been addressed with version 3.8. Version 3.8 supports Mavericks (10.9) and 
Yosemite (10.10): https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201068
  *   Depending on the port order you can have other ports that have priority 
that are causing problems with what port they are communicating with the admin 
system. If your goal is to have these systems do it over wifi I would test a 
problematic client with WiFi as the topmost port and verify whether or not this 
is causing a problem.
  *   I have seen where a particular networking issue has been fixed with 
earlier versions of an OS. Say for example that the user is using 10.9.1 and 
not 10.9.5 they may experience problems because of bugs that existed with 
networking in those older versions. This is the same for versions of Apple 
Remote Desktop. Another issue that can occur is that perhaps you’re using 
10.10.3 with Apple Remote Desktop 3.8 but trying to connect to a Mac running 
10.8.5 and Apple Remote Desktop 3.7.2. There may be conflicts with that 
scenario, although I’m not specifically aware of any.
--
Somchay

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 9:44 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Remote Desktop over Wireless

Have you tried a continuous ping while using ARD?  I find ARD is finicky, slow 
and has a multitude of problems.  I do however use it on our wireless network 
several times a week and have no issues with it.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Somchay Vongsena 
svongs...@pacific.edumailto:svongs...@pacific.edu wrote:
[cid:image001.gif@01D09DE2.5AC209A0]
Does anyone have users experiencing problems using Apple Remote Desktop (ARD) 
over wireless?  The problem is inconsistent and when it does occur, seems like 
switching to wired then back to wireless fixes the problem.  Any Workaround?  
Solution?  Or could it be just an issue with Apple Remote Desktop itself?  Any 
information would be helpful.


• Windows to Windows over wired or wireless works fine no issues



• Mac to Mac over wired works fine no issues



• Mac to Mac over wireless does not seem to work well using Apple 
Remote Desktop



• Combination of Mac to Mac (wireless to wired or wired to wireless) 
does not seem to work well using Apple Remote Desktop as well


Thanks,

--
Somchay Vongsena
Network Engineer II
Pacific Technology
University of the Pacific
(209) 946-7671tel:%28209%29%20946-7671 | 
svongs...@pacific.edumailto:svongs...@pacific.edu

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--

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Sr. Network Engineer
Utica College IITS

T: (315) 223-2383
F: (315) 792-3814
E: jlgi...@utica.edumailto:jlgi...@utica.edu
http://www.utica.eduhttp://www.utica.edu/
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android / Captive Portal / Madness

2015-06-03 Thread Kitri Waterman
Ryan,

In Cisco land, check out: config network web-auth captive-bypass enable

But from my experience, only Apple devices would would throw up the page
automatically (captive-bypass disabled). So sounds like something
changed with Droid?

Also, share that check!

Kitri Waterman
--
Network Engineer (Wireless)
University of Oregon


On 6/3/15 11:20 AM, Turner, Ryan H wrote:

 So, in the same vein as my email last week…   On a new android phone
 running version 5.something, a captive portal is being detected by the
 device, and it brings up our login page.  Good so far.  But when they
 person gets to the point of downloading the onboarding software or
 launching the config file, I ‘assume’ the limited nature of the
 captive portal browser is not allowing those things to happen.  If I
 close the captive portal browser, and open chrome, everything works.

  

 I did a packet trace, and noticed a few things it wants to connect
 to.  I opened up connectivitycheck.android.com.  Still no luck.

  

 I am attempting to make it so when they connect, a limited browser
 does NOT launch, and for them to open chrome manually.  In the past, I
 haven’t seen this problem, so in the even maddening world of Android
 (seriously, I have bad thoughts about what I would do if I had an
 android developer in front of me), has anyone seen this so far and
 figured a way out of it?

  

 I am so tired of constantly chasing google.  I need them to send me a
 check (Apple can, too, while they are at it).

  

 Ryan H Turner

 Senior Network Engineer

 The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

 CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599

 +1 919 445 0113 Office

 +1 919 274 7926 Mobile

  

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Android / Captive Portal / Madness

2015-06-03 Thread Turner, Ryan H
So, in the same vein as my email last week...   On a new android phone running 
version 5.something, a captive portal is being detected by the device, and it 
brings up our login page.  Good so far.  But when they person gets to the point 
of downloading the onboarding software or launching the config file, I 'assume' 
the limited nature of the captive portal browser is not allowing those things 
to happen.  If I close the captive portal browser, and open chrome, everything 
works.

I did a packet trace, and noticed a few things it wants to connect to.  I 
opened up connectivitycheck.android.com.  Still no luck.

I am attempting to make it so when they connect, a limited browser does NOT 
launch, and for them to open chrome manually.  In the past, I haven't seen this 
problem, so in the even maddening world of Android (seriously, I have bad 
thoughts about what I would do if I had an android developer in front of me), 
has anyone seen this so far and figured a way out of it?

I am so tired of constantly chasing google.  I need them to send me a check 
(Apple can, too, while they are at it).

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile


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