RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8540 Code Recommendation, Based on Stability?

[Kyle Nielsen]

Lee,

 

I have one 8540 pair still on 8.5.151.0 – because it just works…

The other pair I had to upgraded due to many bugs/issues with the 702W and now 
have to support the 9105w, I’ve been running this 8540 pair on 8.10.130.9 since 
December and that has been working well with 9105W’s, 1815W, 2802, and 3702’s. 

 

Thanks,

 

Kyle

 

 

Kyle Nielsen
Senior Network Systems Engineer
Enterprise Architecture- Information Technology

Grand Valley State University
225 Manitou Hall
Allendale, MI 49401
 <mailto:%7B%20props.email%20%7D> niels...@gvsu.edu

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 11:31 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8540 Code Recommendation, Based on 
Stability?

 

You guys are making end-of-support 8.5 look good...

Lee Badman (mobile)





On Jun 2, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Jason Mallon mailto:jemal...@ua.edu> > wrote:

 

Forgot this the iPhones and iPad issue just popped out of nowhere a couple of 
weeks ago.  

 

Thanks,

Jason Mallon | Network Engineer III  



  

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 <https://www.ua.edu/> The University of Alabama 
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Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 10:26 AM
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[WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8540 Code Recommendation, Based on Stability?

iPads and Iphones are 802.1x, PSK still works.  The Nokia and Motorolas are 
802.1x and PSK.  

 

Thanks,

Jason Mallon | Network Engineer III  



  

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8540 Code Recommendation, Based on Stability?

802.1X involved, or PSK?

Lee Badman (mobile)







On Jun 2, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Jason Mallon mailto:jemal...@ua.edu> > wrote:

 

iPads, iPhones, Nokia phone, and a handful of Motorolas (different models).  
All seem to be connect when attempting with a wave 1 or 2.  They only seem to 
fail when trying to connect to the 9100 series.  

 

Thanks,

Jason Mallon | Network Engineer III  



  

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8540 Code 
Recommendation, Based on Stability?

Jason

 

Which type of devices are you experiencing troubles with connecting ?

 

Thanks

Kris Vangeel

University of Leuven, Belgium

 

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Recommendation, Based on Stability?

 

We are currently running 8.10.151 and have been for quite a few months with no 
issues as of yet.  Only two issues as of right now are a certain devices not 
being able to connect, working with TAC on those.  8.10.130 and 8.10.142 are 
covered in bugs. 

 

Thanks,

Jason Mallon | Network Engineer III  



  

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RE: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification

[Kyle Nielsen]

Yes, we’ve had a few of these this week. I pointed them to use our SecureW2 
onboarding portal to get the profile installed on the device.

Thanks,

Kyle


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Enterprise Architecture - Information Technology

Grand Valley State University
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Is anyone starting to get complaints of not being able to connect to 802.1x/EAP 
since December’s Android updates mentioned below? I can’t seem to find any 
official information about this, just from the Reddit post below and a few 
other sources including this SecureW2 blog:

https://www.securew2.com/blog/android-11-server-certificate-validation-error-solution/

https://httptoolkit.tech/blog/android-11-trust-ca-certificates/

We had a user reset their account password today, and after forgetting the 
network, they are no longer able to connect with their Pixel 3 XL. I was told 
by one of our students who went to assist this user that the menu to “Do Not 
Validate” is greyed out for the CA certificate. A student from the helpdesk 
forgot the network from their own Pixel and now cannot reconnect; a domain is 
required. They sent the following screenshot.

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Tim, et al,

So the issue with advance certificate onboarding is that it requires a process 
in advance that most students would have issues with. Issuing certs in advance 
is more of a process for company-owned devices.  It doesn’t work well with BYOD 
clients that have dynamic VLAN placement based on returned filter-IDs from a 
RADIUS/NPS server.

Most vendors walk you through a quick and dirty setup of NPS for 802.1x auth 
and VLAN placement, and therefore, they are interested in simple auth at the 
expense of security.  However, with Android 11 (and possibly a bit further 
back), that bypass of “don’t validate”, etc, isn’t an option.

To have a proper cert setup get pushed out to the client, there needs to be a 
more complex setup on the backend than is originally thought.

My server and AD team is actively working on this.  This article is a good 
place to start, and it has links to other portions of the setup.  I hope this 
helps.  I’ll try to let everyone know how it works out when we are done.

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 8540 Code version- holiday work

[Kyle Nielsen]

Hi Everyone, 

I'm working with Cisco TAC/Engineering with this MacOS and ARP issues. They 
have asked for all of the SR #'s that are related to this issue so they can get 
them correlated. For anyone you that have opened a case for this issue, if you 
would please reply to me with the SR# (direct reply is fine). I'm hoping by 
brining more attention to the issue that the BU will take a serious look at it.

Thank you,

Kyle

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Senior Network Systems Engineer 
Grand Valley State University
226 Manitou Hall 
Allendale, MI 49401

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Carlo Terminiello
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:33 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 8540 Code version- holiday work

Michael,

We had similar issues earlier in the year with 8.8 code on AireOS controllers 
specifically with MacOS and IOS clients and had to do a lot of digging into arp 
on the AP and locally conncted switch, it seems the Apple devices were 
poisoning arp but sending out responses on behalf of the local gateway, it's 
worth investigating in this area.

Just another pointer, its seems the software end of life is actually related to 
your 8510 WLC, seems the 700w are supported on later WLC like 3504, 5520, 8540 
running 8.8 or 8.10, if you can get hold of a later WLC or spin up a VM 
temporarily and move some AP access to a later version of code it may help you 
determine if it’s a known bug that has already been fixed in later versions.

Rgds

Carlo

On 09/12/2020, 01:09, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
on behalf of Michael Vinson"  wrote:

Kyle,

I wanted to reply to your post...

We have Cisco 702W APs in our residence halls and have been fighting issues 
with wireless for many months now.  This issue seemed to appear this fall 
semester.

Students are complaining they are getting disconnected from wireless or not 
being able to get connected to wireless.  We have been able to reproduce the 
issue on an iPhone, iMac, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air.  We also had several 
Windows laptops fail one day while testing, but this happened to use only once. 
 We are also having reports of other devices such as Android phones or other 
BYOD devices, but the main complaint is coming from Apple devices.

What we have seen while testing with Apple devices is the AP and WLC show 
the device connected.  The users wireless device also shows that it is 
connected to the SSID, but when the issue is happening you can't pass any 
traffic.  Everything will be working fine (pings and a streaming YouTube video) 
and all of a sudden the pings will stop and YouTube will fail after the buffer 
is exhausted.  Some times it will come back after a short amount of time or we 
have seen it not come back for over an hour.  What is interesting is while one 
or more of the devices are experiencing issues, we have other devices working 
off the same AP just fine.  

We are using Cisco 8510 WLCs running 8.5.161.7   The previous semester we 
were running 8.5.140We initially upgraded this fall to 8.5.161.4, then down 
graded to 8.5.140 and then upgraded to 8.5.161.7 based on recommendations from 
Cisco.  All these version have had issues.

Students have said if the go to Campus buildings, dens or community centers 
that the wireless works great.  The APs in these locations are 3702 or 3802 
APs.  We have done a small amount of testing with a 1815 and have not 
experienced any issues on this. 

We have been working with Cisco and Apple for help, but have had no 
solution at this time.  Cisco has also told us that the 702W AP no longer has 
software support, so if this issue is due to a Cisco bug that it will not be 
fixed.

Michael Vinson
Iowa State University, IT Services
Network Engineer

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 8540 Code version- holiday work

[Kyle Nielsen]

Matt,

We are on 8.5.151.0 and we are seeing the same issue dropping/re-associating 
with the 702W’s but not with the 1815W’s as well.
We are also seeing (just started this semester) that devices are associated and 
connected but  unable to pass traffic, this will last anywhere from 30 seconds 
to 10 minutes (unless they turn off/on the radio again). Seems to primarily 
impact MacBook’s, they can’t ping or browser to any local or remote hosts 
during this time.

I’ve had a few cases open with TAC, I suggested the issue being with the 702W’s 
as well, because we do not see the issue with any of the non-hospitality AP’s 
in academic spaces or the 1815’s in housing. TAC is saying must be a local RF 
issue… but I’m not convinced.

-Kyle

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Senior Network Systems Engineer
Information Technology

Grand Valley State University
225 Manitou Hall
Allendale, MI 49401
office: 616-331-9104
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Matthew Craig
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 12:59 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 8540 Code version- holiday work

Lee,

We’re currently running 8.5.135.0, and its been running fine for us for a long 
time, despite multiple comments on this list of problems with that code.

However just within in last couple of months or so we’ve been chasing problems 
with clients in dorms connecting to 702w (but dorms with 1815w are fine).  
Clients keep dropping and re-associating; rapid tx errors causing 
de-associating then coming back in the logs etc...


We think something had to have changed on the client side as we’ve had no 
issues for a long time prior… students bought a bunch of new ax chipsets this 
semester that don’t like older N radios?, bigsur updates?… haven’t been able to 
pin it down.



Cisco won’t say much more than ditch 702w… but can’t do that on a dime of 
course.


We have been targeting 8.5.151.0 and 8.5.161.0 as an upgrade path to see if it 
helps.  8.5.161.0 is the recommended TAC release, but I have a somewhat 
irrational feeling to try 8.5.151.0 first.  Your comments about 8.5.151.0 not 
totally sucking vindicate my feeling!  :)



-
Matt Craig
Network Engineer
Information and Communication Technologies
New Mexico State University









On Nov 20, 2020, at 4:30 AM, Lee H Badman 
<00db5b77bd95-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:00db5b77bd95-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu>>
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Knowing that there is no easy answer on questions of Cisco code versions, I’ll 
throw it out there anyways. We have been on 8.5.151.0 for quite some time now , 
with mostly good reliability for 3700s and 3800s alike (occasional need to 
reboot 3700s), We are due to minimally reboot everything, and I’ve been 
following the various discussions regarding code bugs and specific client 
issues these past few months.

So curious- is there a solid, reliable newer version to consider? We are not in 
a hurry to get into .11ax yet for a number of reasons. Given the long and 
problematic history of WLC code, 8.5.151.0 has been as close to “wow, it 
actually doesn’t totally suck” as we’ve ever been.

Regards,

Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200)
Information Technology Services
(NDD Group)
206 Machinery Hall
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller

[Kyle Nielsen]

I would also like to be added.

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 11, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Daniel Joseph Infantino  
wrote:


I as well would like to be added



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of 
Gertjan Scharloo
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:27 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from 
older controller to new controller


Hi,



We will probably make the step from 8540 to a 9800-40 controller in 2021



Could you also put me on the list ?



In addition, I am curious which of the interested parties have already 
completed a migration from Cisco One to Cisco DNA license?



Regards,



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Netwerkbeheer – draadloos



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older controller to new controller



Please add me as well.

Thank you.



John Balaska

Network Administrator

Marian University

Department Of Information Technology

3200 Cold Spring Road

Indianapolis, IN 46222

Office - 317-955-6035

www.marian.edu



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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:26 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to 
new controller



You are not late at all.  I certainly am.  I have 8-9 e-mails for interest.  
I'll send out a quick survey to collect information from those that responded.  
I will send it to the list again to pickup others that might be interested.





On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 3:17 PM Michael Heflin 
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 wrote:

Little late but would be interested in this as we are moving from 8540's to 
9800's

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