Hi Everyone, 

I'm working with Cisco TAC/Engineering with this MacOS and ARP issues. They 
have asked for all of the SR #'s that are related to this issue so they can get 
them correlated. For anyone you that have opened a case for this issue, if you 
would please reply to me with the SR# (direct reply is fine). I'm hoping by 
brining more attention to the issue that the BU will take a serious look at it.

Thank you,

Kyle

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Kyle Nielsen
Senior Network Systems Engineer 
Grand Valley State University
226 Manitou Hall 
Allendale, MI 49401

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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Carlo Terminiello
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:33 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 8540 Code version- holiday work

Michael,

We had similar issues earlier in the year with 8.8 code on AireOS controllers 
specifically with MacOS and IOS clients and had to do a lot of digging into arp 
on the AP and locally conncted switch, it seems the Apple devices were 
poisoning arp but sending out responses on behalf of the local gateway, it's 
worth investigating in this area.

Just another pointer, its seems the software end of life is actually related to 
your 8510 WLC, seems the 700w are supported on later WLC like 3504, 5520, 8540 
running 8.8 or 8.10, if you can get hold of a later WLC or spin up a VM 
temporarily and move some AP access to a later version of code it may help you 
determine if it’s a known bug that has already been fixed in later versions.

Rgds

Carlo

On 09/12/2020, 01:09, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
on behalf of Michael Vinson" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU on behalf of 
mvin...@iastate.edu> wrote:

    Kyle,
    
    I wanted to reply to your post...
    
    We have Cisco 702W APs in our residence halls and have been fighting issues 
with wireless for many months now.  This issue seemed to appear this fall 
semester.
    
    Students are complaining they are getting disconnected from wireless or not 
being able to get connected to wireless.  We have been able to reproduce the 
issue on an iPhone, iMac, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air.  We also had several 
Windows laptops fail one day while testing, but this happened to use only once. 
 We are also having reports of other devices such as Android phones or other 
BYOD devices, but the main complaint is coming from Apple devices.
    
    What we have seen while testing with Apple devices is the AP and WLC show 
the device connected.  The users wireless device also shows that it is 
connected to the SSID, but when the issue is happening you can't pass any 
traffic.  Everything will be working fine (pings and a streaming YouTube video) 
and all of a sudden the pings will stop and YouTube will fail after the buffer 
is exhausted.  Some times it will come back after a short amount of time or we 
have seen it not come back for over an hour.  What is interesting is while one 
or more of the devices are experiencing issues, we have other devices working 
off the same AP just fine.  
    
    We are using Cisco 8510 WLCs running 8.5.161.7   The previous semester we 
were running 8.5.140    We initially upgraded this fall to 8.5.161.4, then down 
graded to 8.5.140 and then upgraded to 8.5.161.7 based on recommendations from 
Cisco.  All these version have had issues.
    
    Students have said if the go to Campus buildings, dens or community centers 
that the wireless works great.  The APs in these locations are 3702 or 3802 
APs.  We have done a small amount of testing with a 1815 and have not 
experienced any issues on this. 
    
    We have been working with Cisco and Apple for help, but have had no 
solution at this time.  Cisco has also told us that the 702W AP no longer has 
software support, so if this issue is due to a Cisco bug that it will not be 
fixed.
    
    Michael Vinson
    Iowa State University, IT Services
    Network Engineer
    
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