Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

2019-10-15 Thread Frans Panken
And wouldn’t it be great if companies would actually certify their products 
with such an organization..??? (e.g., the last iphone certified by wi-fi 
alliance was the iphone 4S, in 2011)

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

Wouldn’t it be awesome if there was a group… some kind of ORGANIZATION maybe, 
like an ALLIANCE that did interoperability testing to keep stuff like this at 
bay? Maybe a group made up wireless product manufacturers…

Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200)
Information Technology Services
(NDD Group)
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   e lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu> w its.syr.edu
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

Not only does the Intel wireless card problem on Windows computers prevent them 
from attaching, our experience is that none of the SSIDs are even visible to 
Windows computers when ax is turned on, even though ac and n are also turned 
on.  So from their point of view, the WAPs are broken, and we hear about it 
when the parents of students call people on the executive team wondering why IT 
is so incompetent they can't provide a wireless network similar to the one they 
rolled out in their home in a matter of minutes.  Now it's public relations and 
a political problem.

The only solution that we've found apart from going to each computer and hand 
installing the new drivers is turning off 802.11ax on our new, expensive WAPs, 
and waiting for , what? 2 years? , until either Microsoft makes these wireless 
upgrades mandatory security patches (unlikely), or the population of old 
Windows computers diminishes to only a handful.

John Rodkey
Director of Servers and Networks
Westmont College

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:48 PM Sweetser, Frank E 
mailto:f...@wpi.edu>> wrote:
In theory, yes - I doubt that anyone is going to deploy 11ax with earlier 
standards disabled (except for base 11b data rates, anyway).  The problem is 
there's a bug in commonly deployed Intel driver versions which prevents the 
client from attaching to the network if 11ax rates are enabled at all:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/54799/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
"For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - 
HL Mencken

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs


I don’t believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details – I just skimmed 
through endpoint details page and attributes and don’t see it.

At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply deploy 
the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would allow you to 
offer a seamless experience for clients in a mixed-PHY-standard environment and 
support current clients on n/ac and even a/b/g etc.



Cheers!

-jj

___

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Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs



We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
Driver issues
(https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2F

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

2019-10-10 Thread Lee H Badman
Wouldn’t it be awesome if there was a group… some kind of ORGANIZATION maybe, 
like an ALLIANCE that did interoperability testing to keep stuff like this at 
bay? Maybe a group made up wireless product manufacturers…

Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200)
Information Technology Services
(NDD Group)
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   e lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu> w its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of John Rodkey
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:24 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

Not only does the Intel wireless card problem on Windows computers prevent them 
from attaching, our experience is that none of the SSIDs are even visible to 
Windows computers when ax is turned on, even though ac and n are also turned 
on.  So from their point of view, the WAPs are broken, and we hear about it 
when the parents of students call people on the executive team wondering why IT 
is so incompetent they can't provide a wireless network similar to the one they 
rolled out in their home in a matter of minutes.  Now it's public relations and 
a political problem.

The only solution that we've found apart from going to each computer and hand 
installing the new drivers is turning off 802.11ax on our new, expensive WAPs, 
and waiting for , what? 2 years? , until either Microsoft makes these wireless 
upgrades mandatory security patches (unlikely), or the population of old 
Windows computers diminishes to only a handful.

John Rodkey
Director of Servers and Networks
Westmont College

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:48 PM Sweetser, Frank E 
mailto:f...@wpi.edu>> wrote:
In theory, yes - I doubt that anyone is going to deploy 11ax with earlier 
standards disabled (except for base 11b data rates, anyway).  The problem is 
there's a bug in commonly deployed Intel driver versions which prevents the 
client from attaching to the network if 11ax rates are enabled at all:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/54799/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
"For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - 
HL Mencken

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs


I don’t believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details – I just skimmed 
through endpoint details page and attributes and don’t see it.

At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply deploy 
the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would allow you to 
offer a seamless experience for clients in a mixed-PHY-standard environment and 
support current clients on n/ac and even a/b/g etc.



Cheers!

-jj

___

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VP of Engineering & Security

Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc.

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Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs



We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
Driver issues
(https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.htmldata=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7Cbc693525d46e464edc2308d74cafd52b%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062190393581783sdata=PPsyPwaUPetmfINaNm1FZVxnaI8DN9ydJ%2BA704MhLwM%3Dreserved=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.html=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7C5d86227a676a4b1fd9a708d74d08c938%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C63706257253431

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

2019-10-10 Thread John Rodkey
Not only does the Intel wireless card problem on Windows computers prevent
them from attaching, our experience is that none of the SSIDs are even
visible to Windows computers when ax is turned on, even though ac and n are
also turned on.  So from their point of view, the WAPs are broken, and we
hear about it when the parents of students call people on the executive
team wondering why IT is so incompetent they can't provide a wireless
network similar to the one they rolled out in their home in a matter of
minutes.  Now it's public relations and a political problem.

The only solution that we've found apart from going to each computer and
hand installing the new drivers is turning off 802.11ax on our new,
expensive WAPs, and waiting for , what? 2 years? , until either Microsoft
makes these wireless upgrades mandatory security patches (unlikely), or the
population of old Windows computers diminishes to only a handful.

John Rodkey
Director of Servers and Networks
Westmont College

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:48 PM Sweetser, Frank E  wrote:

> In theory, yes - I doubt that anyone is going to deploy 11ax with earlier
> standards disabled (except for base 11b data rates, anyway).  The problem
> is there's a bug in commonly deployed Intel driver versions which prevents
> the client from attaching to the network if 11ax rates are enabled at all:
>
>
> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/54799/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html
>
> Frank Sweetser
> Director of Network Operations
> Worcester Polytechnic Institute
> "For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and
> wrong." - HL Mencken
> --
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Jennifer Minella <
> j...@cadinc.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:23 PM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
>
>
> I don’t believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details – I just
> skimmed through endpoint details page and attributes and don’t see it.
>
> At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply
> deploy the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would
> allow you to offer a seamless experience for clients in a
> mixed-PHY-standard environment and support current clients on n/ac and even
> a/b/g etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> -jj
>
> ___
>
> *Jennifer Minella*, CISSP, HP MASE
>
> VP of Engineering & Security
>
> Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc.
>
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> 
> *Subject:* [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
>
>
>
> We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
> Driver issues
> (
> *https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.htmldata=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7Cbc693525d46e464edc2308d74cafd52b%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062190393581783sdata=PPsyPwaUPetmfINaNm1FZVxnaI8DN9ydJ%2BA704MhLwM%3Dreserved=0*
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> )
>
> We've been notifying clients and were updating drivers until instructed
> to just turn off Wi-Fi 6.
> This begs the question of trying to identify the problematic machines
> and seek them out, or
> just announce a future date to turn on Wi-Fi 6 and go back to dealing
> with updating drivers as
> they come up.  We'll have a mix (currently ~15% Wi-Fi 6) of AP models
> for a while, so the issues
> won't all show right away.
>
> Anyone looked into identifying the machines needing updated through
> fingerprinting
> (Ar

Re: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

2019-10-09 Thread Sweetser, Frank E
In theory, yes - I doubt that anyone is going to deploy 11ax with earlier 
standards disabled (except for base 11b data rates, anyway).  The problem is 
there's a bug in commonly deployed Intel driver versions which prevents the 
client from attaching to the network if 11ax rates are enabled at all:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/54799/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
"For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - 
HL Mencken

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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs


I don’t believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details – I just skimmed 
through endpoint details page and attributes and don’t see it.

At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply deploy 
the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would allow you to 
offer a seamless experience for clients in a mixed-PHY-standard environment and 
support current clients on n/ac and even a/b/g etc.



Cheers!

-jj

___

Jennifer Minella, CISSP, HP MASE

VP of Engineering & Security

Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc.

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Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs



We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
Driver issues
(https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.htmldata=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7Cbc693525d46e464edc2308d74cafd52b%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062190393581783sdata=PPsyPwaUPetmfINaNm1FZVxnaI8DN9ydJ%2BA704MhLwM%3Dreserved=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.html=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7C5d86227a676a4b1fd9a708d74d08c938%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062572534312429=TX%2BBCWo3phrnCl4CnmFveYgfjHfuqwF%2FXzZBbwIqhts%3D=0>)

We've been notifying clients and were updating drivers until instructed
to just turn off Wi-Fi 6.
This begs the question of trying to identify the problematic machines
and seek them out, or
just announce a future date to turn on Wi-Fi 6 and go back to dealing
with updating drivers as
they come up.  We'll have a mix (currently ~15% Wi-Fi 6) of AP models
for a while, so the issues
won't all show right away.

Anyone looked into identifying the machines needing updated through
fingerprinting
(Aruba Insight or Airwave or Clearpass ) ?


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WIRELESS-LAN Digest - 8 Oct 2019 to 9 Oct 2019 (#2019-167)
Table of contents:

  *   WLC & ISE combo issues (5)
  *   Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
  *   [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs (3)
  *   Wi-Fi Design Consulting (3)

  1.  WLC & ISE combo issues
 *   Re: WLC & ISE combo issues (10/09)
From: Mathieu Sturm mailto:mathieu.st...@hogent.be>>
 *   Re: WLC & ISE combo issues (10/09)
From: "Kenny, Eric" mailto:eric_ke...@harvard.edu>>
 *   Re: WL

Re: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

2019-10-09 Thread Jennifer Minella
I don't believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details - I just skimmed 
through endpoint details page and attributes and don't see it.
At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply deploy 
the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would allow you to 
offer a seamless experience for clients in a mixed-PHY-standard environment and 
support current clients on n/ac and even a/b/g etc.

Cheers!
-jj
___
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VP of Engineering & Security
Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc.
www.cadinc.com<http://www.cadinc.com/>
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Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
Driver issues
(https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.htmldata=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7Cbc693525d46e464edc2308d74cafd52b%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062190393581783sdata=PPsyPwaUPetmfINaNm1FZVxnaI8DN9ydJ%2BA704MhLwM%3Dreserved=0)

We've been notifying clients and were updating drivers until instructed
to just turn off Wi-Fi 6.
This begs the question of trying to identify the problematic machines
and seek them out, or
just announce a future date to turn on Wi-Fi 6 and go back to dealing
with updating drivers as
they come up.  We'll have a mix (currently ~15% Wi-Fi 6) of AP models
for a while, so the issues
won't all show right away.

Anyone looked into identifying the machines needing updated through
fingerprinting
(Aruba Insight or Airwave or Clearpass ) ?

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 *   Re: WLC & ISE combo issues (10/09)
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 *   Re: Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs (10/09)
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  3.  [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
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APs (10/09)
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

2019-10-09 Thread Sweetser, Frank E
We had to ask SecureW2 to provide the report.  Who knows - if enough of us ask, 
maybe they'll make it a standard one 

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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We do onboard with SecureW2, but only in the past 10 months and it's 
encouraged, not required.

Did you have to request a custom report from SW2 support for this?  I don't see 
that info available
in the standard report templates and they also a 2 month window.


On 10/9/19 8:36 AM, Sweetser, Frank E wrote:
Are you doing any kind of onboarding?  We were able to generate a report of 
driver versions for our client base from SecureW2, for example.

Frank Sweetser
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Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
Driver issues
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We've been notifying clients and were updating drivers until instructed
to just turn off Wi-Fi 6.
This begs the question of trying to identify the problematic machines
and seek them out, or
just announce a future date to turn on Wi-Fi 6 and go back to dealing
with updating drivers as
they come up.  We'll have a mix (currently ~15% Wi-Fi 6) of AP models
for a while, so the issues
won't all show right away.

Anyone looked into identifying the machines needing updated through
fingerprinting
(Aruba Insight or Airwave or Clearpass ) ?



On 9/5/19 3:08 PM, Turner, Ryan H wrote:
> We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver 
> compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to 
> connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came to 
> the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and then 
> everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We were 
> running 8.503 code (I think).
>
>
> Ryan Turner
> Head of Networking
> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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> Anyone have any Wi-Fi 6 APs deployed yet, and if so any thoughts either good 
> or bad. I'm looking at swapping out the APs in our dining hall first, since 
> they seem to get the most use.
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