Witango-Talk: Witango and BPEL
OK, some of you folks are steeped in the theoretical aspect of programming. You're up to speed on the latest and greatest. I'd like your feedback. We are now moving towards something called BPEL (Business Process Execution Language) Here's a short excerpt from the wikipedia website (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BPEL) concerning BPEL: is a business process modeling /wiki/Business_process_modeling language that is executable. The origins of BPEL can be traced to WSFL /wiki/Web_Services_Flow_Language and XLANG /wiki/Xlang . It is serialized in XML /wiki/Extensible_Markup_Language and aims to enable programming in the large /wiki/Programming_in_the_large . The concepts of programming in the large and programming in the small /wiki/Programming_in_the_small distinguish between two aspects of writing the type of long-running asynchronous processes that one typically sees in business processes /wiki/Business_process . This sounds an awful lot like Witango to me. In reading the entire section it seems to be describing Witango. I'd like to get your take on it and see what the Witango community thinks of this. Can Witango be thought of as a BPEL language or and I just thinking wishfully? Gene Wolf Supervisor, Business Systems DRS Sensors Targeting Systems-Optronics 2330 Commerce Park Drive NE Palm Bay, Florida 32905 Phone: 321-309-0685 321-309-0202 (fax) Dictionary.com Word of the Day http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. This (document/presentation) may contain technical data as defined in the International Traffic In Arms Regulations (ITAR) 22 CFR 120.10. Export of this material is restricted by the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2751 et seq.) and may not be exported to foreign persons without prior written approval from the U.S. Department of State. TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: short mac server article
I found this interesting, thought I would pass on. http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/03/30/mac.mini.beats.xserve.g5/ Until it melts... - John -- --- John May : President http://www.pointinspace.com/ Point In Space Internet Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professional FileMaker Pro / MySQL / Lasso / PHP Hosting TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: JS Form Validation
Hi Dan,
I would also consider using AJAX for your validation. Check out
Adobe's Spry framework:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/spry/
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On Apr 1, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Dan Stein wrote:
Thanks that should get me where I need to be. A good base to work from
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From: Ben Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: witango-talk@witango.com witango-talk@witango.com
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:09:16 -0700
To: witango-talk@witango.com witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: JS Form Validation
Take II
pre
FORM NAME=theForm onSubmit=return validateForm(this);
METHOD=POST ACTION=@CGI@APPFILE
Field1 = INPUT TYPE=TEXT SIZE=25 NAME=field1br
span id=field2Label style=color: Green;Field2/span = (max 5
chars) INPUT TYPE=TEXT SIZE=25 NAME=field2
P
INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT NAME=Submit VALUE=Submit
INPUT TYPE=RESET VALUE=Reset
/FORM
SCRIPT language=JavaScript
!-- Begin JavaScript
function validateForm(formObj)
{
if (formObj.field1.value == )
{
alert(field1 is blank);
formObj.field1.focus();
return false;
}
if (formObj.field2.value.length 5)
{
//alert(field2 is longer than 5 chars);
fieldLabel = document.getElementById(field2Label);
fieldLabel.style.color = Red;
formObj.field2.focus();
return false;
}
}
// -- End JavaScript --
/SCRIPT
/pre
On Mar 30, 2007, at 3:50 PM, Dan Stein wrote:
I guess if no one has something they have found to work well I will
do that.
I have done some searching so far just found stuff that puts up an
alert
where I really would prefer the color coding of the missing fields.
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to me,
we're all running at the same speed and heading towards the same
destination. The only winners are the ones who've made the world a
better
place for having been here.'
From for Better or Worse 2/28/2006
From: Ben Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: witango-talk@witango.com witango-talk@witango.com
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:43:26 -0700
To: witango-talk@witango.com witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: JS Form Validation
Honestly Dan you need to crack open Google on JS some
Here is sample
pre
FORM NAME=theForm onSubmit=return validateForm(this);
METHOD=POST ACTION=@CGI@APPFILE
Field1 = INPUT TYPE=TEXT SIZE=25 NAME=field1br
Field2 = (max 5 chars) INPUT TYPE=TEXT SIZE=25 NAME=field2
P
INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT NAME=Submit VALUE=Submit
INPUT TYPE=RESET VALUE=Reset
/FORM
SCRIPT language=JavaScript
!-- Begin JavaScript
function validateForm(formObj)
{
if (formObj.field1.value == )
{
alert(field1 is blank);
formObj.field1.focus();
return false;
}
if (formObj.field2.value.length 5)
{
alert(field2 is longer than 5 chars);
formObj.field2.focus();
return false;
}
}
// -- End JavaScript --
/SCRIPT
/pre
Ben
On Mar 30, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Dan Stein wrote:
Ben that sounds good but don't I still need some sample code to use?
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From: Ben Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: witango-talk@witango.com witango-talk@witango.com
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:31:42 -0700
To: witango-talk@witango.com witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: JS Form Validation
What i do to alleviate that is use the JS core checks on client
side
and server side JS, that way I get most bang for buck on JS code
and
i dont have to have rules in both JS and Witango (or PHP ;-)
Ben
On Mar 30, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Alan Wolfe wrote:
Client side validation is good but not fool proof. I worked on a
witango project for a couple of years where there was a time
when we
relied exclusively on client side checking and it worked 99% of the
time, but that last 1% of users hitting errors started to add up.
IMO server side checks are a must have and client side checks are a
nicety.
On 3/30/07, Dan Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need to find a good JS form
!CST types (was Re: Witango-Talk: OS X.4)
Just as I was about to unsubscribe from this list, it pays for itself again! We have a site still running in Tango2000 on Windows Server 2003, and when doing some timestamp (DATETOSECS) comparisons to allow or disallow updates, it was allowing certain users but not others to violate the deadline for updates. Low and behold IE7 has some issue with processing the datestamp. Not sure if it's an XML thing, !CST thing, or what, but FireFox 2.0.x and IE6 have no problems with the stamp, and block the user correctly. Just an FYI, and thanks all for your 18 month-old thread! Bob On 10/20/05, Robert Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, didn't see it in windows edited ones, I am going to check some more of our code now. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Oct 20, 2005, at 6:19 AM, Michael Dittbrenner wrote: I hate to tell you all this but it doesn't seem to be just a OS X issue. I did a search on our tafs which were made on windows and it seems to have them also. Maybe it has something to do with the editor quitting out and then restarting. Mike D Educational Directories Unlimited, Inc. Michael Dittbrenner Systems Administrator http://www.StudyAbroad.com http://www.GradSchools.com A service of EDU, Inc... http://www.EDUdirectories.com A partner of EDU Internet Strategies: http:// www.EDUInternetStrategies.com/ [Phone] 610-499-9200 [Fax]610-499-9205 [E-mail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bill Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:18 PM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OS X.4 Dang! Found 48 occurences in 5 files. But there not everywhere. I'll have to grep my production server and see how many are there, vs. how many are from the last month of significant cutting and nailing. Is there some rhyme or reason. If I replace INSERT/UPDATE with DirectDBMS does that appear to resolve it? On Wednesday, October 19, 2005, at 04:39 PM, Robert Garcia wrote: sorry, that is, search for !CST. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Oct 19, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Robert Garcia wrote: search your tafs fors !CST with a text editor. see if you have any. I had some, with no error, and didn't realize it, then I started seeing the errors later. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Oct 19, 2005, at 3:22 PM, Bill Conlon wrote: Thx much. I found a used dual G4 1.25 GHz for the price of a mini, so I'll probably stick with X.3.9. BTW, I've never had the corruption issue while running X.2.8. bill On Wednesday, October 19, 2005, at 03:00 PM, Robert Garcia wrote: I do, and there are others, like Mark Weiss and Roland. There is a serious bug that I don't think is JUST 10.4, but seems to show up more in 10.4. Your insert and update actions can get corrupted. It is a major pain, it has been reported to Witango months ago. It has not been acknowledged, and none of (AFAIK) have heard from witango on this. See previous posts for more details on the bug. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Oct 19, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Bill Conlon wrote: I think I'm ready to migrate from my circa 1998 G3 desktop. Can't remember which feline is the current version, but does anyone have experience running the Dev Studio on X.4? thx bill _ __ _ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/ maillist.taf __ __ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/ maillist.taf ___ __ ___ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf __ __ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf _ __ _ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to
RE: Witango-Talk: Witango and BPEL
Hi Gene, Can Witango be thought of as a BPEL language No. or and I just thinking wishfully? Yes. The synopsis babble may sound like they're similar, but functionally the only similarity is that both BPEL and Witango use XML. That's like comparing a chair and a table as being the same thing just because they're both made of wood. BPEL is just another proposed XML vocabulary to describe the process of workflow and other automation functions pertaining to certain types of business data. The reason it exists at all is simply to help some big application platforms communicate certain requirements between different vendors (akin to the reason why we have the SOAP standard). If you have to interoperate with those big boy vendors like IBM, Oracle or Micosoft for a specific purpose, then you'll probably have to implement BPEL - otherwise, just roll-your-own XML definition, it'll be cheaper and more lightweight. Hope that helps. Scott Cadillac (403) 254-5002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] XML-Extranet 37 Bridleridge Gardens SW Calgary, Alberta Canada T2Y 4C9 http://www.xmlx.net/ -Original Message- From: Wolf, Gene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 5:14 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Witango-Talk: Witango and BPEL OK, some of you folks are steeped in the theoretical aspect of programming. You're up to speed on the latest and greatest. I'd like your feedback. We are now moving towards something called BPEL (Business Process Execution Language) Here's a short excerpt from the wikipedia website (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BPEL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BPEL ) concerning BPEL: is a business process modeling file:///wiki/Business_process_modeling language that is executable. The origins of BPEL can be traced to WSFL file:///wiki/Web_Services_Flow_Language and XLANG file:///wiki/Xlang . It is serialized in XML file:///wiki/Extensible_Markup_Language and aims to enable programming in the large file:///wiki/Programming_in_the_large . The concepts of programming in the large and programming in the small file:///wiki/Programming_in_the_small distinguish between two aspects of writing the type of long-running asynchronous processes that one typically sees in business processes file:///wiki/Business_process . This sounds an awful lot like Witango to me. In reading the entire section it seems to be describing Witango. I'd like to get your take on it and see what the Witango community thinks of this. Gene Wolf Supervisor, Business Systems DRS Sensors Targeting Systems-Optronics 2330 Commerce Park Drive NE Palm Bay, Florida 32905 Phone: 321-309-0685 321-309-0202 (fax) Dictionary.com Word of the Day http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. This (document/presentation) may contain technical data as defined in the International Traffic In Arms Regulations (ITAR) 22 CFR 120.10. Export of this material is restricted by the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2751 et seq.) and may not be exported to foreign persons without prior written approval from the U.S. Department of State. TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: What is !CST bug?
Wow, I just searched the forum for info on the !CST bug. None of the postings really described what the bug symptoms are. One posting mentioned that switching an insert action from using @ARG to @VAR caused a problem and they fix by editing xml datatype from Text to !CST. I have just completed converting all our T2k Mac tafs to Witango 5.5 on PC using ODBC and are going live in two days. Have ~50 TAFS with ~500 lines using DataType=!CST. Do I have a disaster waiting to happen? - Kent Swisher Engineering Services - Alcatel-LucentApplication Support Engineer - Wireline Access Products [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Petaluma, CA 707-792-7116 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: What is !CST bug?
If you look at a taf, in a text editor, search for !CST. If you find any, this is ok if the column it references is a custom column. But if it is not, and should be a char, or especially date, or tims, then it is the bug. And you need to fix manually. You will know if you are bitten by it, if you start having errors, where you are inserting or updated DATES, or numbers, and it is not working properly. It occurs mostly when you use the mac os x dev studio, and are editing a taf, while you are NOT logged into the datasources the taf uses. The best way to keep from happening, is to log in to all datasources in witango, before editing a taf. This is supposed to be fixed in v6 or v5.75 of the dev studio, but both have become vaporware at this point. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Kent Swisher wrote: Wow, I just searched the forum for info on the !CST bug. None of the postings really described what the bug symptoms are. One posting mentioned that switching an insert action from using @ARG to @VAR caused a problem and they fix by editing xml datatype from Text to !CST. I have just completed converting all our T2k Mac tafs to Witango 5.5 on PC using ODBC and are going live in two days. Have ~50 TAFS with ~500 lines using DataType=!CST. Do I have a disaster waiting to happen? - Kent Swisher Engineering Services - Alcatel-LucentApplication Support Engineer - Wireline Access Products [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Petaluma, CA 707-792-7116 __ __ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: What is !CST bug?
One of the really nice things about Witango Search/Update/Insert actions is that they transparently handle data binding (those '?' marks in your SQL debug), instead of inserting the data in the SQL statement itself.. [You can manually bind data in DirectDBMS using the @BIND tag, which is what I prefer]. The server relies on a DataDictionary within the xml that tells it what kind of data is in each column. Sometimes the Studio gets confused by the ODBC connections and messes up the DataDictionary. When it doesn't know what kind of column, it use !CST. Some types of data must be bound in the SQL statements, but if the Server sees !CST, it won't know that it's DATETIME (for example). You can spend a lot of time in a text editor trying to fix the DataDictionary (always have a backup), or like me, you can just use DirectDBMS, so the DD stanza doesn't even appear in the taf. -- Bill -- Original Message --- From: Kent Swisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Witango Talk witango-talk@witango.com Sent: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 11:57:25 -0700 Subject: Witango-Talk: What is !CST bug? Wow, I just searched the forum for info on the !CST bug. None of the postings really described what the bug symptoms are. One posting mentioned that switching an insert action from using @ARG to @VAR caused a problem and they fix by editing xml datatype from Text to !CST. I have just completed converting all our T2k Mac tafs to Witango 5.5 on PC using ODBC and are going live in two days. Have ~50 TAFS with ~500 lines using DataType=!CST. Do I have a disaster waiting to happen? - Kent Swisher Engineering Services - Alcatel-LucentApplication Support Engineer - Wireline Access Products [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Petaluma, CA 707-792-7116 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf --- End of Original Message --- TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: What is !CST bug?
So it affects inserts or updated DATES or NUMBER data types. Does Witango throw an error, or is this a silent failure? - Kent On 4/2/2007 12:23 PM, Robert Garcia wrote: If you look at a taf, in a text editor, search for !CST. If you find any, this is ok if the column it references is a custom column. But if it is not, and should be a char, or especially date, or tims, then it is the bug. And you need to fix manually. You will know if you are bitten by it, if you start having errors, where you are inserting or updated DATES, or numbers, and it is not working properly. It occurs mostly when you use the mac os x dev studio, and are editing a taf, while you are NOT logged into the datasources the taf uses. The best way to keep from happening, is to log in to all datasources in witango, before editing a taf. This is supposed to be fixed in v6 or v5.75 of the dev studio, but both have become vaporware at this point. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Kent Swisher wrote: Wow, I just searched the forum for info on the !CST bug. None of the postings really described what the bug symptoms are. One posting mentioned that switching an insert action from using @ARG to @VAR caused a problem and they fix by editing xml datatype from Text to !CST. I have just completed converting all our T2k Mac tafs to Witango 5.5 on PC using ODBC and are going live in two days. Have ~50 TAFS with ~500 lines using DataType=!CST. Do I have a disaster waiting to happen? - Kent Swisher Engineering Services - Alcatel-LucentApplication Support Engineer - Wireline Access Products [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Petaluma, CA 707-792-7116 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: What is !CST bug?
it throws an error. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Kent Swisher wrote: So it affects inserts or updated DATES or NUMBER data types. Does Witango throw an error, or is this a silent failure? - Kent On 4/2/2007 12:23 PM, Robert Garcia wrote: If you look at a taf, in a text editor, search for !CST. If you find any, this is ok if the column it references is a custom column. But if it is not, and should be a char, or especially date, or tims, then it is the bug. And you need to fix manually. You will know if you are bitten by it, if you start having errors, where you are inserting or updated DATES, or numbers, and it is not working properly. It occurs mostly when you use the mac os x dev studio, and are editing a taf, while you are NOT logged into the datasources the taf uses. The best way to keep from happening, is to log in to all datasources in witango, before editing a taf. This is supposed to be fixed in v6 or v5.75 of the dev studio, but both have become vaporware at this point. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Kent Swisher wrote: Wow, I just searched the forum for info on the !CST bug. None of the postings really described what the bug symptoms are. One posting mentioned that switching an insert action from using @ARG to @VAR caused a problem and they fix by editing xml datatype from Text to !CST. I have just completed converting all our T2k Mac tafs to Witango 5.5 on PC using ODBC and are going live in two days. Have ~50 TAFS with ~500 lines using DataType=!CST. Do I have a disaster waiting to happen? - Kent Swisher Engineering Services - Alcatel-LucentApplication Support Engineer - Wireline Access Products [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Petaluma, CA 707-792-7116 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf _ ___ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf __ __ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: short mac server article
I know of a large Mac Developer that has many mini's it uses for testing and other services. The word I get is that problems are frequent in hard drive failures and ram failures. Not enough to stop using the mini, but frequent enough to be an issue. Mark On Mar 31, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Robert Garcia wrote: I found this interesting, thought I would pass on. http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/03/30/mac.mini.beats.xserve.g5/ -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ __ __ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: What is !CST bug?
Whew on two counts. Checked XML for all InsertAction and UpdateActions. Checked associated DataDictionarys and found no !CST in those DataDictionary except for custom columns. Second, since it throws an error, I have made sure all insert and update actions have error html. Thanks for your help Robert. By the way, how did the conversion to zend platgorm go? I checked http://www.bighead.net/tools/ but could not find info on your conversion to PHP. - Kent On 4/2/2007 12:56 PM, Robert Garcia wrote: it throws an error. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Kent Swisher wrote: So it affects inserts or updated DATES or NUMBER data types. Does Witango throw an error, or is this a silent failure? - Kent On 4/2/2007 12:23 PM, Robert Garcia wrote: If you look at a taf, in a text editor, search for !CST. If you find any, this is ok if the column it references is a custom column. But if it is not, and should be a char, or especially date, or tims, then it is the bug. And you need to fix manually. You will know if you are bitten by it, if you start having errors, where you are inserting or updated DATES, or numbers, and it is not working properly. It occurs mostly when you use the mac os x dev studio, and are editing a taf, while you are NOT logged into the datasources the taf uses. The best way to keep from happening, is to log in to all datasources in witango, before editing a taf. This is supposed to be fixed in v6 or v5.75 of the dev studio, but both have become vaporware at this point. --Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Kent Swisher wrote: Wow, I just searched the forum for info on the !CST bug. None of the postings really described what the bug symptoms are. One posting mentioned that switching an insert action from using @ARG to @VAR caused a problem and they fix by editing xml datatype from Text to !CST. I have just completed converting all our T2k Mac tafs to Witango 5.5 on PC using ODBC and are going live in two days. Have ~50 TAFS with ~500 lines using DataType=!CST. Do I have a disaster waiting to happen? - Kent Swisher Engineering Services - Alcatel-LucentApplication Support Engineer - Wireline Access Products [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Petaluma, CA 707-792-7116 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: What is !CST bug?
We have just finished, and launched today, eventpix to php. It was a huge effort, but worthwhile. Performance is amazing. We have a bunch of code, for helping port witango to php, especially zend-php. Our plan has always been to make much of it public, when we were done with this major port. When we put it up for the community, I will post. Many have asked. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Kent Swisher wrote: Whew on two counts. Checked XML for all InsertAction and UpdateActions. Checked associated DataDictionarys and found no !CST in those DataDictionary except for custom columns. Second, since it throws an error, I have made sure all insert and update actions have error html. Thanks for your help Robert. By the way, how did the conversion to zend platgorm go? I checked http://www.bighead.net/tools/ but could not find info on your conversion to PHP. - Kent On 4/2/2007 12:56 PM, Robert Garcia wrote: it throws an error. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Kent Swisher wrote: So it affects inserts or updated DATES or NUMBER data types. Does Witango throw an error, or is this a silent failure? - Kent On 4/2/2007 12:23 PM, Robert Garcia wrote: If you look at a taf, in a text editor, search for !CST. If you find any, this is ok if the column it references is a custom column. But if it is not, and should be a char, or especially date, or tims, then it is the bug. And you need to fix manually. You will know if you are bitten by it, if you start having errors, where you are inserting or updated DATES, or numbers, and it is not working properly. It occurs mostly when you use the mac os x dev studio, and are editing a taf, while you are NOT logged into the datasources the taf uses. The best way to keep from happening, is to log in to all datasources in witango, before editing a taf. This is supposed to be fixed in v6 or v5.75 of the dev studio, but both have become vaporware at this point. --Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Kent Swisher wrote: Wow, I just searched the forum for info on the !CST bug. None of the postings really described what the bug symptoms are. One posting mentioned that switching an insert action from using @ARG to @VAR caused a problem and they fix by editing xml datatype from Text to !CST. I have just completed converting all our T2k Mac tafs to Witango 5.5 on PC using ODBC and are going live in two days. Have ~50 TAFS with ~500 lines using DataType=!CST. Do I have a disaster waiting to happen? - Kent Swisher Engineering Services - Alcatel-LucentApplication Support Engineer - Wireline Access Products [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Petaluma, CA 707-792-7116 __ __ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/ maillist.taf ___ _ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf _ ___ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf __ __ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: What is !CST bug?
On 03/04/2007, at 5:23 AM, Robert Garcia wrote: This is supposed to be fixed in v6 of the dev studio, but both have become vaporware at this point. It has nothing to do with vapourware. If Apple every release the Java SE 1.6 to the general public the beta of the DS will be available the next day. 7 months after Sun released Java 6 for every other platform we are still waiting for one from Apple. That is what is holding the new DS up. If you are an apple developer connect member and have access to the Developer Preview 6 of the Java SE 1.6 then let me know. I can get you on the new dev studio beta program. Regards Phil TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: What is !CST bug?
I am, and I do have access. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Phil Wade wrote: On 03/04/2007, at 5:23 AM, Robert Garcia wrote: This is supposed to be fixed in v6 of the dev studio, but both have become vaporware at this point. It has nothing to do with vapourware. If Apple every release the Java SE 1.6 to the general public the beta of the DS will be available the next day. 7 months after Sun released Java 6 for every other platform we are still waiting for one from Apple. That is what is holding the new DS up. If you are an apple developer connect member and have access to the Developer Preview 6 of the Java SE 1.6 then let me know. I can get you on the new dev studio beta program. Regards Phil __ __ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: Re: Re: Wtango-Talk: What is !CST bug?
At 08:11 PM 4/2/2007, you wrote: On 03/04/2007, at 5:23 AM, Robert Garcia wrote: This is supposed to be fixed in v6 of the dev studio, but both have become vaporware at this point. It has nothing to do with vapourware. If Apple every release the Java SE 1.6 to the general public the beta of the DS will be available the next day. 7 months after Sun released Java 6 for every other platform we are still waiting for one from Apple. That is what is holding the new DS up. If you are an apple developer connect member and have access to the Developer Preview 6 of the Java SE 1.6 then let me know. I can get you on the new dev studio beta program. Regards Phil Hi Phil, Thank you for explaining the source of the hold up with the Mac Dev Studio. Phil, as a lover of Witango, I have to say that I wish that you had said what the hold up was many months ago. I know of a number of developers who gave as the final straw for their decision to leave Witango the lack of information about what was going on with the DS for so long. I've said to you before that I think that this is a blind spot for you. In our small (and unfortunately shrinking) developer community, I believe that good communication is vital. Big successful companies can get away with being silent between releases. I don't think that With Enterprise can. It would be great if you could let us know what the situation is with the Windows DS. That one is not being held up by Apple. Ever hopeful but very discouraged, Stefan Gonick, MS = Database WebWorks: Dynamic web sites through database integration http://www.DatabaseWebWorks.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: Apology
Hi Everyone, I screwed up. I meant to send that last message privately. I really didn't want to send a negative message to the group at large. I love the Witango product and hope that it will continue to exist for many many years to come. I will point out that there is often a good explanation behind the things that happen at With Ent., even if I would be reassured to know sooner what they are. It's easier for me to coast along with things when I do. I don't know how to undo any potential damage my message may have caused, but hopefully something good will come out of this. I really didn't mean to cause discord. Best regards, Stefan = Database WebWorks: Dynamic web sites through database integration http://www.DatabaseWebWorks.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: What is !CST bug?
I thought you were no longer using Witango? ;) Phil On 03/04/2007, at 10:15 AM, Robert Garcia wrote: I am, and I do have access. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Phil Wade wrote: On 03/04/2007, at 5:23 AM, Robert Garcia wrote: This is supposed to be fixed in v6 of the dev studio, but both have become vaporware at this point. It has nothing to do with vapourware. If Apple every release the Java SE 1.6 to the general public the beta of the DS will be available the next day. 7 months after Sun released Java 6 for every other platform we are still waiting for one from Apple. That is what is holding the new DS up. If you are an apple developer connect member and have access to the Developer Preview 6 of the Java SE 1.6 then let me know. I can get you on the new dev studio beta program. Regards Phil _ ___ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf __ __ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Apology
Stefan. No need to apologise, they are all valid points and no damage done. No offense taken. The point I will debate you on is your remark about a shrinking community. The facts are that the Lite edition has actually brought a lot of developers onto the platform and we actually have a larger user base now than when we purchased the technology from Pervasive. Many of the developers that start with a Lite edition are upgrading to the standard edition as they prove to themselves that Witango is a viable solution to their needs. We have also seen that the developers that leave the platform actually just expand their marketability by adding asp.Net or PHP to their repertoire and keep developing projects with Witango as well. Regards Phil On 03/04/2007, at 11:23 AM, Stefan Gonick wrote: Hi Everyone, I screwed up. I meant to send that last message privately. I really didn't want to send a negative message to the group at large. I love the Witango product and hope that it will continue to exist for many many years to come. I will point out that there is often a good explanation behind the things that happen at With Ent., even if I would be reassured to know sooner what they are. It's easier for me to coast along with things when I do. I don't know how to undo any potential damage my message may have caused, but hopefully something good will come out of this. I really didn't mean to cause discord. Best regards, Stefan = Database WebWorks: Dynamic web sites through database integration http://www.DatabaseWebWorks.com __ __ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: Witango Studio 6.0 Beta
The windows version has been in private beta since last year and we have been working hard to keep the output of the 6.0 dev studio compatible with the 5.5 server and java compiler. I will make a release available for all platforms this week and I am happy to start a public beta as long as people realise they must keep backups of their files and it is still a use at own risk application if you use it in production. Also the new actions and features will not work on the 5.5 server. A beta of the 6.0 server is a little while off. It would be great if you could let us know what the situation is with the Windows DS. That one is not being held up by Apple. Ever hopeful but very discouraged, Stefan Gonick, MS = Database WebWorks: Dynamic web sites through database integration http://www.DatabaseWebWorks.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
