Re: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

2008-02-13 Thread William M Conlon
Sure, BIND 9 is available for Windows 2000 (binary) and can be  
compiled for 2003.


Bill



On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:

That sounds like a LOT of overhead for just dns, there has to be a  
windows version of bind or something.


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:05 PM, William M Conlon wrote:


Why not just run a VMware DNS appliance on the Windows 2003 server?

http://search.vmware.com/search?filter=0&btnG=VMTN+Appliance 
+Search&restrict=&output=xml_no_dtd&sort=date%3AD%3AL% 
3Ad1&ie=UTF-8&btnG.y=12&client=vmtn_appliance&num=10&btnG.x=15&oe=UTF 
-8&proxystylesheet=vmtn_appliance&site= 
+VMware_Site_appliances_dir&q=dns&x=6&y=11


Bill



On Feb 13, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Rick Sanders wrote:


Hey webdude,

I understand your confusion! It took me awhile to figure it out  
myself!


Here goes:

-  The current release of Server 2003 Web Edition is with  
Service Pack 2. This version does not have DNS and DHCP.
-  The older releases (pre-service pack 1) and with  
service pack 1 did have DNS & DHCP.


So, if you but the latest release, you won’t get DNS & DHCP. But,  
if you can find an older version (pre-service pack 2 release)  
then you will get DNS & DHCP.


If you do get your hands on a pre-service pack 2 release, you can  
still download and apply service pack 2 to your server.


Rick Sanders

From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-13-08 9:39 AM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

Now I am totally confused.



From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:20 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition
Windows Server 2003 web edition does not have DNS, DHCP, or  
Active directory integrated with the web edition:
https://msdn.one.microsoft.com/home.aspx? 
ApplicationID=4E9B12B3-3B2C-4697-9873-A8D8E5B96364&CultureCode=en- 
us&BenefitDetailGuid=709B8F04- 
B3EF-4C09-93BA-9E3D645CCDAD&AccessGuid=E705FFBC-97B8-4277- 
A410-6DBB6609A36F&SourceSystemCode=XEN&SubscriptionStatus=Active


Furthermore, the highest version you can go up to id SP2. There  
is no R2 for Server 2003 web edition. Microsoft has dropped the  
web edition, and is no longer available to purchase. There are  
still some copies around that stores and online sellers have in  
stock, but the SKU has been discontinued from the major  
distributors and isn’t available from Microsoft to purchase.


The editions are going to be:
-  Small business Server (no good for web)
-  Standard
-  Enterprise
-  Datacentre

So, you can use Web edition and install third party DNS, and use  
your router for DHCP. But if you need Windows DNS advanced  
features (delegation, forwarding, recursive lookup) and advanced  
DHCP (relay agent, multiple subnets, bootp) then you need  
standard edition server.


Rick


From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-12-08 1:26 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

Hello,

Is anyone using this platform? I am trying to get some info on it  
and like usual, I am totally confused by any information from  
Microsoft.. Does it come with the DNS Server? I am looking to set  
up a secondary DNS server with a new machine. Looks like the Web  
Edition is the ticket. Do not need domain or domain controller...  
just a way to host multiple sites on multiple IPs.


Any thoughts?

Thanks!

 
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Re: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

2008-02-13 Thread Robert Garcia
That sounds like a LOT of overhead for just dns, there has to be a  
windows version of bind or something.


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:05 PM, William M Conlon wrote:


Why not just run a VMware DNS appliance on the Windows 2003 server?

http://search.vmware.com/search?filter=0&btnG=VMTN+Appliance+Search&restrict=&output=xml_no_dtd&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&ie=UTF-8&btnG.y=12&client=vmtn_appliance&num=10&btnG.x=15&oe=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=vmtn_appliance&site=+VMware_Site_appliances_dir&q=dns&x=6&y=11

Bill



On Feb 13, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Rick Sanders wrote:


Hey webdude,

I understand your confusion! It took me awhile to figure it out  
myself!


Here goes:

-  The current release of Server 2003 Web Edition is with  
Service Pack 2. This version does not have DNS and DHCP.
-  The older releases (pre-service pack 1) and with service  
pack 1 did have DNS & DHCP.


So, if you but the latest release, you won’t get DNS & DHCP. But,  
if you can find an older version (pre-service pack 2 release) then  
you will get DNS & DHCP.


If you do get your hands on a pre-service pack 2 release, you can  
still download and apply service pack 2 to your server.


Rick Sanders

From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-13-08 9:39 AM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

Now I am totally confused.



From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:20 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition
Windows Server 2003 web edition does not have DNS, DHCP, or Active  
directory integrated with the web edition:

https://msdn.one.microsoft.com/home.aspx?ApplicationID=4E9B12B3-3B2C-4697-9873-A8D8E5B96364&CultureCode=en-us&BenefitDetailGuid=709B8F04-B3EF-4C09-93BA-9E3D645CCDAD&AccessGuid=E705FFBC-97B8-4277-A410-6DBB6609A36F&SourceSystemCode=XEN&SubscriptionStatus=Active

Furthermore, the highest version you can go up to id SP2. There is  
no R2 for Server 2003 web edition. Microsoft has dropped the web  
edition, and is no longer available to purchase. There are still  
some copies around that stores and online sellers have in stock,  
but the SKU has been discontinued from the major distributors and  
isn’t available from Microsoft to purchase.


The editions are going to be:
-  Small business Server (no good for web)
-  Standard
-  Enterprise
-  Datacentre

So, you can use Web edition and install third party DNS, and use  
your router for DHCP. But if you need Windows DNS advanced features  
(delegation, forwarding, recursive lookup) and advanced DHCP (relay  
agent, multiple subnets, bootp) then you need standard edition  
server.


Rick


From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-12-08 1:26 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

Hello,

Is anyone using this platform? I am trying to get some info on it  
and like usual, I am totally confused by any information from  
Microsoft.. Does it come with the DNS Server? I am looking to set  
up a secondary DNS server with a new machine. Looks like the Web  
Edition is the ticket. Do not need domain or domain controller...  
just a way to host multiple sites on multiple IPs.


Any thoughts?

Thanks!

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Re: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

2008-02-13 Thread William M Conlon

Why not just run a VMware DNS appliance on the Windows 2003 server?

http://search.vmware.com/search?filter=0&btnG=VMTN+Appliance 
+Search&restrict=&output=xml_no_dtd&sort=date%3AD%3AL% 
3Ad1&ie=UTF-8&btnG.y=12&client=vmtn_appliance&num=10&btnG.x=15&oe=UTF-8& 
proxystylesheet=vmtn_appliance&site= 
+VMware_Site_appliances_dir&q=dns&x=6&y=11


Bill



On Feb 13, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Rick Sanders wrote:


Hey webdude,

I understand your confusion! It took me awhile to figure it out  
myself!


Here goes:

-  The current release of Server 2003 Web Edition is with  
Service Pack 2. This version does not have DNS and DHCP.
-  The older releases (pre-service pack 1) and with service  
pack 1 did have DNS & DHCP.


So, if you but the latest release, you won’t get DNS & DHCP. But,  
if you can find an older version (pre-service pack 2 release) then  
you will get DNS & DHCP.


If you do get your hands on a pre-service pack 2 release, you can  
still download and apply service pack 2 to your server.


Rick Sanders

From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-13-08 9:39 AM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

Now I am totally confused.



From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:20 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition
Windows Server 2003 web edition does not have DNS, DHCP, or Active  
directory integrated with the web edition:
https://msdn.one.microsoft.com/home.aspx? 
ApplicationID=4E9B12B3-3B2C-4697-9873-A8D8E5B96364&CultureCode=en- 
us&BenefitDetailGuid=709B8F04- 
B3EF-4C09-93BA-9E3D645CCDAD&AccessGuid=E705FFBC-97B8-4277- 
A410-6DBB6609A36F&SourceSystemCode=XEN&SubscriptionStatus=Active


Furthermore, the highest version you can go up to id SP2. There is  
no R2 for Server 2003 web edition. Microsoft has dropped the web  
edition, and is no longer available to purchase. There are still  
some copies around that stores and online sellers have in stock,  
but the SKU has been discontinued from the major distributors and  
isn’t available from Microsoft to purchase.


The editions are going to be:
-  Small business Server (no good for web)
-  Standard
-  Enterprise
-  Datacentre

So, you can use Web edition and install third party DNS, and use  
your router for DHCP. But if you need Windows DNS advanced features  
(delegation, forwarding, recursive lookup) and advanced DHCP (relay  
agent, multiple subnets, bootp) then you need standard edition server.


Rick


From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-12-08 1:26 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

Hello,

Is anyone using this platform? I am trying to get some info on it  
and like usual, I am totally confused by any information from  
Microsoft.. Does it come with the DNS Server? I am looking to set  
up a secondary DNS server with a new machine. Looks like the Web  
Edition is the ticket. Do not need domain or domain controller...  
just a way to host multiple sites on multiple IPs.


Any thoughts?

Thanks!

  
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RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

2008-02-13 Thread Rick Sanders
Hey webdude,

 

I understand your confusion! It took me awhile to figure it out myself!

 

Here goes:

 

-  The current release of Server 2003 Web Edition is with Service
Pack 2. This version does not have DNS and DHCP.

-  The older releases (pre-service pack 1) and with service pack 1
did have DNS & DHCP.

 

So, if you but the latest release, you won't get DNS & DHCP. But, if you can
find an older version (pre-service pack 2 release) then you will get DNS &
DHCP.

 

If you do get your hands on a pre-service pack 2 release, you can still
download and apply service pack 2 to your server.

 

Rick Sanders

 

From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: February-13-08 9:39 AM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

 

Now I am totally confused. 

 

 

 

  _  

From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:20 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

Windows Server 2003 web edition does not have DNS, DHCP, or Active directory
integrated with the web edition:

https://msdn.one.microsoft.com/home.aspx?ApplicationID=4E9B12B3-3B2C-4697-98
73-A8D8E5B96364

&CultureCode=en-us&BenefitDetailGuid=709B8F04-B3EF-4C09-93BA-9E3D645CCDAD&Ac
cessGuid=E705FFBC-97B8-4277-A410-6DBB6609A36F&SourceSystemCode=XEN&Subscript
ionStatus=Active

 

Furthermore, the highest version you can go up to id SP2. There is no R2 for
Server 2003 web edition. Microsoft has dropped the web edition, and is no
longer available to purchase. There are still some copies around that stores
and online sellers have in stock, but the SKU has been discontinued from the
major distributors and isn't available from Microsoft to purchase.

 

The editions are going to be:

-  Small business Server (no good for web)

-  Standard

-  Enterprise

-  Datacentre

 

So, you can use Web edition and install third party DNS, and use your router
for DHCP. But if you need Windows DNS advanced features (delegation,
forwarding, recursive lookup) and advanced DHCP (relay agent, multiple
subnets, bootp) then you need standard edition server.

 

Rick

 

 

From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: February-12-08 1:26 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

 

Hello,

 

Is anyone using this platform? I am trying to get some info on it and like
usual, I am totally confused by any information from Microsoft.. Does it
come with the DNS Server? I am looking to set up a secondary DNS server with
a new machine. Looks like the Web Edition is the ticket. Do not need domain
or domain controller... just a way to host multiple sites on multiple IPs.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks!

 

 

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RE: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Ted Wolfley
Window Server 2003 Web Edition Service Pack 2

Pentium 4   2.79 GHz, 1.98GB of RAM

 

IIS V6.0

 

Ted

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:08 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

Due to my work at eventpix, I have spent 100s of hours on upload work,
and research and coding. Witango doesn't handle the upload. The
webserver handles the upload from the form, and when the upload is
complete, the webserver hands the file/data in a wrapper over to
witango. So the witango server doesn't even see the uploaded file, until
the upload is complete. So if you are seeing a slow down, it is your
webserver that is slowing things down.

 

What web server are you using, IIS? And which version?

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:





Using the witango file action to upload a 10 mg file seems to take a lot
of witango resources and slows down displaying of other witango pages on
the server.  Looking for a one-step work around.

 

Considering having a webpage to collect file info and have the user use
an ftp client to upload the file, a two step process.

 

Ted

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:39 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

do you mean, witango sends it to ftp server, before saving it on YOUR
server first?

 

If that is what you mean, its not possible, because of the way witango
works with your webserver. The file is completely transferred to the
webserver before being handed over to witango.

 

We have written special upload handlers, to allow progress bar
uploading, and throttling, and other cool features. We do this by
handling the upload byte by byte, this is NOT possible in witango. It is
also not possible in PHP. It is possible with some very low level .net
coding, and it is also possible by creating a CGI script, like in perl
or something.

 

If you submit your upload to a perl cgi, for example, you could write it
to accept data in memory and at the same time connect and send to an FTP
server. This would be very troublesome, and I wouldn't recommend it,
unless you were sure of 100% uptime and great bandwidth up to the ftp
server from the witango server. You would basically be holding/caching
the http upload to cgi in memory as you pull from the memory to the ftp
server.

 

I would think you are better off, investing in larger more reliable
network storage on your server side, accept the entire upload, and then
ftp up to wherever and delete.

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:






User submits file thru the witango webpage and witango ftp the file to
another server without writing to the ftp server first.

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page, or
the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be different
from the witango server?

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:







Hi,

 

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the
local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can
successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with the
external action but witango can't find the file on my workstation.  I
have found php pages on the web that I may have to use.

 

Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

 

Ted Wolfley

Lead Internet and Database Programmer

The Ogden Group of Rochester

phone: 585.321.1060 x23

fax: 585.321.0043

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

 

http://www.ogdengroup.com   

 


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Witango-Talk: Mail Action, Return-Path (SPF)

2008-02-13 Thread William M Conlon
I'm trying to update a mailing application to support Sender Policy  
Framework (SPF), which primarily examines the Return-Path header  
field to confirm that the sender is authorized to use sending MTA.


Using the witango mail action, I have tried to insert a custom header  
line, but Witango always over-rides the Return-Path, replacing my  
Return-Path with the From field.  If I try to put the From in the  
custom header, email action produces a bad envelope with two FROM  
fields.


It looks like I need to use the <@EMAILSESSION> tag if I use witango,  
so here are a couple of questions.


1.  Has anyone experienced any 'gotchas'?
2.  Does this tag allow use of the submission port (587)?
3.  Is TLS supported?
4.  Are there any open source TCFs available?

My messages and recipients are already queued in a database, sent out  
by witango cron; but I could use perl or php as an alternative.


TIA

Bill

William M. Conlon, P.E., Ph.D.
To the Point
2330 Bryant Street
Palo Alto, CA 94301
   vox:  650.327.2175 (direct)
   fax:  650.329.8335
mobile:  650.906.9929
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Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Robert Garcia
Due to my work at eventpix, I have spent 100s of hours on upload work,  
and research and coding. Witango doesn't handle the upload. The  
webserver handles the upload from the form, and when the upload is  
complete, the webserver hands the file/data in a wrapper over to  
witango. So the witango server doesn't even see the uploaded file,  
until the upload is complete. So if you are seeing a slow down, it is  
your webserver that is slowing things down.


What web server are you using, IIS? And which version?

--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:

Using the witango file action to upload a 10 mg file seems to take a  
lot of witango resources and slows down displaying of other witango  
pages on the server.  Looking for a one-step work around.


Considering having a webpage to collect file info and have the user  
use an ftp client to upload the file, a two step process.


Ted

From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:39 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

do you mean, witango sends it to ftp server, before saving it on  
YOUR server first?


If that is what you mean, its not possible, because of the way  
witango works with your webserver. The file is completely  
transferred to the webserver before being handed over to witango.


We have written special upload handlers, to allow progress bar  
uploading, and throttling, and other cool features. We do this by  
handling the upload byte by byte, this is NOT possible in witango.  
It is also not possible in PHP. It is possible with some very low  
level .net coding, and it is also possible by creating a CGI script,  
like in perl or something.


If you submit your upload to a perl cgi, for example, you could  
write it to accept data in memory and at the same time connect and  
send to an FTP server. This would be very troublesome, and I  
wouldn't recommend it, unless you were sure of 100% uptime and great  
bandwidth up to the ftp server from the witango server. You would  
basically be holding/caching the http upload to cgi in memory as you  
pull from the memory to the ftp server.


I would think you are better off, investing in larger more reliable  
network storage on your server side, accept the entire upload, and  
then ftp up to wherever and delete.


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:


User submits file thru the witango webpage and witango ftp the file  
to another server without writing to the ftp server first.


From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page,  
or the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be  
different from the witango server?


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:



Hi,

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from  
the local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I  
can successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with  
the external action but witango can’t find the file on my  
workstation.  I have found php pages on the web that I may have to  
use.


Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

Ted Wolfley
Lead Internet and Database Programmer
The Ogden Group of Rochester
phone: 585.321.1060 x23
fax: 585.321.0043
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Ted Wolfley
Using the witango file action to upload a 10 mg file seems to take a lot
of witango resources and slows down displaying of other witango pages on
the server.  Looking for a one-step work around.

 

Considering having a webpage to collect file info and have the user use
an ftp client to upload the file, a two step process.

 

Ted

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:39 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

do you mean, witango sends it to ftp server, before saving it on YOUR
server first?

 

If that is what you mean, its not possible, because of the way witango
works with your webserver. The file is completely transferred to the
webserver before being handed over to witango.

 

We have written special upload handlers, to allow progress bar
uploading, and throttling, and other cool features. We do this by
handling the upload byte by byte, this is NOT possible in witango. It is
also not possible in PHP. It is possible with some very low level .net
coding, and it is also possible by creating a CGI script, like in perl
or something.

 

If you submit your upload to a perl cgi, for example, you could write it
to accept data in memory and at the same time connect and send to an FTP
server. This would be very troublesome, and I wouldn't recommend it,
unless you were sure of 100% uptime and great bandwidth up to the ftp
server from the witango server. You would basically be holding/caching
the http upload to cgi in memory as you pull from the memory to the ftp
server.

 

I would think you are better off, investing in larger more reliable
network storage on your server side, accept the entire upload, and then
ftp up to wherever and delete.

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:





User submits file thru the witango webpage and witango ftp the file to
another server without writing to the ftp server first.

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page, or
the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be different
from the witango server?

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:






Hi,

 

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the
local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can
successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with the
external action but witango can't find the file on my workstation.  I
have found php pages on the web that I may have to use.

 

Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

 

Ted Wolfley

Lead Internet and Database Programmer

The Ogden Group of Rochester

phone: 585.321.1060 x23

fax: 585.321.0043

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

 

http://www.ogdengroup.com   

 


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Witango-Talk: Load Testing

2008-02-13 Thread Reeve, Lawrence D
Hello,

I am migrating our Witango environment from mac xservs running apache
(Itools) to some new intell based xservs. It is all running well but I would
like to do some load testing against the taf files hitting a MySQL db before
release.

Does any one have a recommendation for an open source load tester suitable
to this task?



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Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Robert Garcia
do you mean, witango sends it to ftp server, before saving it on YOUR  
server first?


If that is what you mean, its not possible, because of the way witango  
works with your webserver. The file is completely transferred to the  
webserver before being handed over to witango.


We have written special upload handlers, to allow progress bar  
uploading, and throttling, and other cool features. We do this by  
handling the upload byte by byte, this is NOT possible in witango. It  
is also not possible in PHP. It is possible with some very low  
level .net coding, and it is also possible by creating a CGI script,  
like in perl or something.


If you submit your upload to a perl cgi, for example, you could write  
it to accept data in memory and at the same time connect and send to  
an FTP server. This would be very troublesome, and I wouldn't  
recommend it, unless you were sure of 100% uptime and great bandwidth  
up to the ftp server from the witango server. You would basically be  
holding/caching the http upload to cgi in memory as you pull from the  
memory to the ftp server.


I would think you are better off, investing in larger more reliable  
network storage on your server side, accept the entire upload, and  
then ftp up to wherever and delete.


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:

User submits file thru the witango webpage and witango ftp the file  
to another server without writing to the ftp server first.


From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page,  
or the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be  
different from the witango server?


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:


Hi,

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from  
the local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I  
can successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with  
the external action but witango can’t find the file on my  
workstation.  I have found php pages on the web that I may have to  
use.


Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

Ted Wolfley
Lead Internet and Database Programmer
The Ogden Group of Rochester
phone: 585.321.1060 x23
fax: 585.321.0043
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Ted Wolfley
User submits file thru the witango webpage and witango ftp the file to
another server without writing to the ftp server first.

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page, or
the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be different
from the witango server?

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:





Hi,

 

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the
local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can
successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with the
external action but witango can't find the file on my workstation.  I
have found php pages on the web that I may have to use.

 

Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

 

Ted Wolfley

Lead Internet and Database Programmer

The Ogden Group of Rochester

phone: 585.321.1060 x23

fax: 585.321.0043

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

 

http://www.ogdengroup.com   

 


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Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Robert Garcia
Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page,  
or the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be  
different from the witango server?


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:


Hi,

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from  
the local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I  
can successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with  
the external action but witango can’t find the file on my  
workstation.  I have found php pages on the web that I may have to  
use.


Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

Ted Wolfley
Lead Internet and Database Programmer
The Ogden Group of Rochester
phone: 585.321.1060 x23
fax: 585.321.0043
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.ogdengroup.com


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RE: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Scott Cadillac
Hi Ted,

Unless you're using a custom or 3rd party webpage loaded applet of some kind, a 
server-side application cannot pickup files from a user's workstation and 
transfer them somewhere that is not the same server. It's a security thing, eh.

But, you could use a PHP or ASP.NET app from your server to do what your 
witango server is doing now. Either one would be more memory and resource 
efficient than how witango handles uploads and external posts of large files. 

Good luck.

Scott,



On Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:45pm, Ted Wolfley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> We are also uploading the files now but the files are getting too big 
> and  the upload ties up the witango server..
> 
> 
> 
> Ted
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Driscoll, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:24 PM 
> To: witango-talk@witango.com 
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form
> 
> 
> 
> We do this 
> But we actually upload the file to the server then use the external 
> command using ftp text file to upload the file to the site
> 
> Kevin
> -- 
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Wolfley 
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Sent: Wed Feb 13 12:32:18 2008 
> Subject: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the 
> local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can 
> successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with the 
> external action but witango can't find the file on my workstation.  I 
> have found php pages on the web that I may have to use.
> 
> 
> 
> Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload. 
> 
> 
> 
> Ted Wolfley
> 
> Lead Internet and Database Programmer
> 
> The Ogden Group of Rochester
> 
> phone: 585.321.1060 x23 
> 
> fax: 585.321.0043
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.ogdengroup.com   
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Beverly Voth
On 2/13/08 12:32 PM, "Ted Wolfley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in whole or in
part:

> Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the local
> machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can successfully ftp
> from the witango server to the ftp site with the external action but witango
> can¹t find the file on my workstation. I have found php pages on the web that
> I may have to use.
>  
> Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

It may depend on the browser. We have a solution that requires the user to
enter the NAME of the file as well as select it for upload. And that's only
certain browsers, oddly enough! I have an additional field for the name.

I tell them to find the file on their hard drive, copy the name (added bonus
they know where it's located for the next "locate"). Then they go to the
website, paste the name in and click browse to find it.

FORM:



Text File:


 or 


Downloads File: 


  (for browser compatability): enter the NAME
of the Download document: 


Password:

 


In the TAF:

file: <@WEBROOT><@APPFILEPATH>downloads\<@ARG LinkDocName>
data to write: <@ARG linkDoc>

Don't ask me to explain further, but it's what we had to do

:)

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RE: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Ted Wolfley
We are also uploading the files now but the files are getting too big
and  the upload ties up the witango server..

 

Ted

 



From: Driscoll, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

We do this
But we actually upload the file to the server then use the external
command using ftp text file to upload the file to the site

Kevin
--
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld


-Original Message-
From: Ted Wolfley
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Sent: Wed Feb 13 12:32:18 2008
Subject: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

Hi,



Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the
local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can
successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with the
external action but witango can't find the file on my workstation.  I
have found php pages on the web that I may have to use.



Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.



Ted Wolfley

Lead Internet and Database Programmer

The Ogden Group of Rochester

phone: 585.321.1060 x23

fax: 585.321.0043

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



http://www.ogdengroup.com  





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Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Driscoll, Kevin
We do this
But we actually upload the file to the server then use the external command 
using ftp text file to upload the file to the site

Kevin
--
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld


-Original Message-
From: Ted Wolfley
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Sent: Wed Feb 13 12:32:18 2008
Subject: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

Hi,

 

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the local 
machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can successfully ftp 
from the witango server to the ftp site with the external action but witango 
can't find the file on my workstation.  I have found php pages on the web that 
I may have to use.

 

Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

 

Ted Wolfley

Lead Internet and Database Programmer

The Ogden Group of Rochester

phone: 585.321.1060 x23

fax: 585.321.0043

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

 

http://www.ogdengroup.com   

 



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Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Ted Wolfley
Hi,

 

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the
local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can
successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with the
external action but witango can't find the file on my workstation.  I
have found php pages on the web that I may have to use.

 

Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

 

Ted Wolfley

Lead Internet and Database Programmer

The Ogden Group of Rochester

phone: 585.321.1060 x23

fax: 585.321.0043

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

 

http://www.ogdengroup.com   

 



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Re: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

2008-02-13 Thread John McGowan
AFAIK, bind comes on EVERY flavor of linux.

:)

On 2/13/08, WebDude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Now I am totally confused.
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>  From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:20 PM
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition
>
>
>
>
>
> Windows Server 2003 web edition does not have DNS, DHCP, or Active directory
> integrated with the web edition:
>
> https://msdn.one.microsoft.com/home.aspx?ApplicationID=4E9B12B3-3B2C-4697-9873-A8D8E5B96364&CultureCode=en-us&BenefitDetailGuid=709B8F04-B3EF-4C09-93BA-9E3D645CCDAD&AccessGuid=E705FFBC-97B8-4277-A410-6DBB6609A36F&SourceSystemCode=XEN&SubscriptionStatus=Active
>
>
>
> Furthermore, the highest version you can go up to id SP2. There is no R2 for
> Server 2003 web edition. Microsoft has dropped the web edition, and is no
> longer available to purchase. There are still some copies around that stores
> and online sellers have in stock, but the SKU has been discontinued from the
> major distributors and isn't available from Microsoft to purchase.
>
>
>
> The editions are going to be:
>
> -  Small business Server (no good for web)
>
> -  Standard
>
> -  Enterprise
>
> -  Datacentre
>
>
>
> So, you can use Web edition and install third party DNS, and use your router
> for DHCP. But if you need Windows DNS advanced features (delegation,
> forwarding, recursive lookup) and advanced DHCP (relay agent, multiple
> subnets, bootp) then you need standard edition server.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: February-12-08 1:26 PM
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Subject: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
>
>
> Is anyone using this platform? I am trying to get some info on it and like
> usual, I am totally confused by any information from Microsoft.. Does it
> come with the DNS Server? I am looking to set up a secondary DNS server with
> a new machine. Looks like the Web Edition is the ticket. Do not need domain
> or domain controller... just a way to host multiple sites on multiple IPs.
>
>
>
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> 
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RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

2008-02-13 Thread WebDude
Now I am totally confused. 
 
  
 

  _  

From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:20 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition



Windows Server 2003 web edition does not have DNS, DHCP, or Active directory
integrated with the web edition:

https://msdn.one.microsoft.com/home.aspx?ApplicationID=4E9B12B3-3B2C-4697-98
73-A8D8E5B96364

&CultureCode=en-us&BenefitDetailGuid=709B8F04-B3EF-4C09-93BA-9E3D645CCDAD&Ac
cessGuid=E705FFBC-97B8-4277-A410-6DBB6609A36F&SourceSystemCode=XEN&Subscript
ionStatus=Active

 

Furthermore, the highest version you can go up to id SP2. There is no R2 for
Server 2003 web edition. Microsoft has dropped the web edition, and is no
longer available to purchase. There are still some copies around that stores
and online sellers have in stock, but the SKU has been discontinued from the
major distributors and isn't available from Microsoft to purchase.

 

The editions are going to be:

-  Small business Server (no good for web)

-  Standard

-  Enterprise

-  Datacentre

 

So, you can use Web edition and install third party DNS, and use your router
for DHCP. But if you need Windows DNS advanced features (delegation,
forwarding, recursive lookup) and advanced DHCP (relay agent, multiple
subnets, bootp) then you need standard edition server.

 

Rick

 

 

From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: February-12-08 1:26 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Off Topic Windows 2003 Web Edition

 

Hello,

 

Is anyone using this platform? I am trying to get some info on it and like
usual, I am totally confused by any information from Microsoft.. Does it
come with the DNS Server? I am looking to set up a secondary DNS server with
a new machine. Looks like the Web Edition is the ticket. Do not need domain
or domain controller... just a way to host multiple sites on multiple IPs.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks!

 

 

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