Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
From what I say in the last beta they did, Version 6 is a Java product. So it will run pretty much the same on both Mac and windows Ben On Aug 5, 2008, at 9:27 PM, Christian Platt wrote: Perhaps would some people move to a working mac version, if it comes up. Thats what i see here. Christian Am 05.08.2008 um 19:20 schrieb Mikal Anderson: Agreed. It seems it would save Phil & everyone time were he to report directly to the list every month instead of responding piece meal to individuals. Mikal On 8/5/2008 10:05 AM, Beverly Voth wrote: I haven't received anything from Phil (on list or off) and think it entirely rude to expect all of us to email call him even if he's good to respond. Beverly Voth TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
Perhaps would some people move to a working mac version, if it comes up. Thats what i see here. Christian Am 05.08.2008 um 19:20 schrieb Mikal Anderson: Agreed. It seems it would save Phil & everyone time were he to report directly to the list every month instead of responding piece meal to individuals. Mikal On 8/5/2008 10:05 AM, Beverly Voth wrote: I haven't received anything from Phil (on list or off) and think it entirely rude to expect all of us to email call him even if he's good to respond. Beverly Voth TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: SPAM-MED: Witango-Talk: RSS
Its just xml over http, you just have to follow the schema. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Aug 5, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Stefan Gonick wrote: Phil created a simple RSS reader in Witango. It's available on the Witango.com web site. If it's not there anymore, I can give you a copy of mine that I created from his. It would have to wait until Monday since I am currently out of town. If you are talking about generating an RSS feed, then I can't help you. :) Stefan From: Wayne Irvine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:06 PM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: SPAM-MED: Witango-Talk: RSS My understanding of RSS is that it is a server that responds with feeds in a specific XML format. Should be pretty easy to do in WiTango. Does anyone have some experience with this? Is it a http feed? Or does it use a different port? Wayne TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: SPAM-MED: Witango-Talk: RSS
On 06/08/2008, at 11:11 AM, Stefan Gonick wrote: If you are talking about generating an RSS feed, then I can't help you. :) It's funny, my Google of RSS resulted in a load of Reader responses but very little in the way of Publishing. It is actually publishing I am interested in. Cheers Wayne TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
re: SPAM-MED: Witango-Talk: RSS
Phil created a simple RSS reader in Witango. It's available on the Witango.com web site. If it's not there anymore, I can give you a copy of mine that I created from his. It would have to wait until Monday since I am currently out of town. If you are talking about generating an RSS feed, then I can't help you. :) Stefan From: Wayne Irvine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:06 PM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: SPAM-MED: Witango-Talk: RSS My understanding of RSS is that it is a server that responds with feeds in a specific XML format. Should be pretty easy to do in WiTango. Does anyone have some experience with this? Is it a http feed? Or does it use a different port? Wayne TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: RSS
My understanding of RSS is that it is a server that responds with feeds in a specific XML format. Should be pretty easy to do in WiTango. Does anyone have some experience with this? Is it a http feed? Or does it use a different port? Wayne TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
On 06/08/2008, at 2:54 AM, Bill Downall wrote: Yes. So much for the theory that we're predominantly Mac users. Oh well, just the loudest I guess. TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
ditto. I run parallels on a macbookpro, and have iis / mssql2005 / wt5.5 running on my xp virtual machine. Works great and with parallels I even have concurrence so I do not have to switch back and forth between operating systems. On Aug 5, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote: Good question Chuck, I considered putting in options for Virtual Machine users (like myself, I use Mac now, but run Visual Studio in VMWare on Windows), but I thought that complicated things unnecessarily. Your Editor is still either a windows or mac version - how you run your operating system should be a whole different topic. Hope that helps. Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 2:09 PM, Chuck Leavens wrote: Well, I am a mac user, and use all windows for witango, the rare times I have to fix old sites. Mac versions just don't work, I use windows editor on mac VM. and would that not affect the mac user count? -- Thanks, Chuck Chuck Leavens Director of Engineering and IT Management WDUQ-FM Duquesne University Pittsburgh PA 15282 412-396-5508 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
On 8/5/08 12:54 PM, "Bill Downall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in whole or in part: > Yes. So much for the theory that we're predominantly Mac users. I've got Windows and Mac servers, but *prefer* to code/work on Mac. I've not had a problem with Mac for editing tafs. That is...until I upgraded to Leopard and cannot get the ".taf" to be recognized by the Witango Editor (5.5) no matter what I do. I used to have an applescript to "change creator", but that doesn't work on Leopard. I've tried changing in 'get info'. I've tried using 'Default Apps'.And, of course, therefore the editor says it can't open the files. I may have to install the editor on my Parallels and "do windows" for a while. Bummer. Beverly Voth TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
Agreed. It seems it would save Phil & everyone time were he to report directly to the list every month instead of responding piece meal to individuals. Mikal On 8/5/2008 10:05 AM, Beverly Voth wrote: I haven't received anything from Phil (on list or off) and think it entirely rude to expect all of us to email call him even if he's good to respond. Beverly Voth TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
Good question Chuck, I considered putting in options for Virtual Machine users (like myself, I use Mac now, but run Visual Studio in VMWare on Windows), but I thought that complicated things unnecessarily. Your Editor is still either a windows or mac version - how you run your operating system should be a whole different topic. Hope that helps. Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 2:09 PM, Chuck Leavens wrote: Well, I am a mac user, and use all windows for witango, the rare times I have to fix old sites. Mac versions just don't work, I use windows editor on mac VM. and would that not affect the mac user count? -- Thanks, Chuck Chuck Leavens Director of Engineering and IT Management WDUQ-FM Duquesne University Pittsburgh PA 15282 412-396-5508 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
Well, I am a mac user, and use all windows for witango, the rare times I have to fix old sites. Mac versions just don't work, I use windows editor on mac VM. and would that not affect the mac user count? -- Thanks, Chuck Chuck Leavens Director of Engineering and IT Management WDUQ-FM Duquesne University Pittsburgh PA 15282 412-396-5508 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
Well, I am a mac user, and use all windows for witango, the rare times I have to fix old sites. Mac versions just don't work, I use windows editor on mac VM. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Aug 5, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Bill Downall wrote: Yes. So much for the theory that we're predominantly Mac users. Bill On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Janet, You can see the results here http://freeonlinesurveys.com/viewresults.asp?c=x4jovb5l0cv4h6y469661 Over 30 responses so far, that's pretty good. And interesting data as well. Scott, TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
On 8/5/08 8:40 AM, "Scott Cadillac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in whole or in part: > ~ No longer code in Witango, I just hang out on the list to annoy > people or because I can't help myself (check) > > > Scott, LOL! Thanks for the survey and laugh, Scott. I filled out the survey. :) I also want my 2bits posted. I subscribe to this list for news. I haven't received anything from Phil (on list or off) and think it entirely rude to expect all of us to email call him even if he's good to respond. Beverly Voth TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
33 responses so far. The Witango developer should be on the protected species list ... Mikal TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
Yes. So much for the theory that we're predominantly Mac users. Bill On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Janet, > > You can see the results here > > http://freeonlinesurveys.com/viewresults.asp?c=x4jovb5l0cv4h6y469661 > > Over 30 responses so far, that's pretty good. And interesting data as well. > > Scott, > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
great idea posted a response -S On Aug 5, 2008, at 6:42 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote: This poll is informal, anonymous and just for curiosity purposes. http://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp? sid=pfih6m7nyni0c8n469661 It doesn't look like I can make the results public just yet (without purchasing a monthly subscription), but I'll figure out a way to distribute it - or feel free to contact me anytime. Thanks. Scott Cadillac ~ 902-624-1266 ~ http://www.xmlx.net/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
Hi Janet, You can see the results here http://freeonlinesurveys.com/viewresults.asp?c=x4jovb5l0cv4h6y469661 Over 30 responses so far, that's pretty good. And interesting data as well. Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 1:15 PM, janet wrote: I filled out the survey. Thank you Looking forward to the results. Janet Case -Original Message- From: Scott Cadillac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:30 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey Hi Stefan, Thank you. There's a few things I thought about changing afterwards, but I don't want to mess with it now that it's started collecting data. Hopefully people will take the time to fill in the "Other" option field with this kind of information. Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 12:22 PM, Stefan Gonick wrote: Hi Scott, I filled out your survey. Thanks for doing that. May I suggest that you add ColdFusion and Ruby on Rails to your list of transition technologies? I think that those 2 may be fairly popular. Warm regards, Stefan From: Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:43 AM To: Witango-Talk Subject: SPAM-MED: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey This poll is informal, anonymous and just for curiosity purposes. http://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp? sid=pfih6m7nyni0c8n469661 It doesn't look like I can make the results public just yet (without purchasing a monthly subscription), but I'll figure out a way to distribute it - or feel free to contact me anytime. Thanks. Scott Cadillac ~ 902-624-1266 ~ http://www.xmlx.net/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
Completed survey. Thanks Scott -- Mikal On 8/5/2008 9:38 AM, Mikal Anderson wrote: How often do you use Witango? ~ Everyday, all my projects ~ About half of my projects ~ At least once a yearCHECK ~ No longer code in Witango, TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
How often do you use Witango? ~ Everyday, all my projects ~ About half of my projects ~ At least once a yearCHECK ~ No longer code in Witango, TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
What version are you using? - 3.x - 4.x/2000 - 5.0 CHECK - 5.5 What platform is your Editor? - Windows CHECK - Mac Are you using the Java Compiler? - Yes - No CHECK What platform is your server? - Windows CHECK - Mac - Linux - Solaris How many servers do you run? - 1 - 2~5 CHECK - 6~10 - 11~20 - 20+ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
I filled out the survey. Thank you Looking forward to the results. Janet Case -Original Message- From: Scott Cadillac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:30 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey Hi Stefan, Thank you. There's a few things I thought about changing afterwards, but I don't want to mess with it now that it's started collecting data. Hopefully people will take the time to fill in the "Other" option field with this kind of information. Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 12:22 PM, Stefan Gonick wrote: > Hi Scott, > > I filled out your survey. Thanks for doing that. May I suggest that > you add > ColdFusion and Ruby on Rails to your list of transition > technologies? I > think that those 2 may be fairly popular. > > Warm regards, > Stefan > > From: Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:43 AM > To: Witango-Talk > Subject: SPAM-MED: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey > > This poll is informal, anonymous and just for curiosity purposes. > > http://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp? > sid=pfih6m7nyni0c8n469661 > > It doesn't look like I can make the results public just yet (without > purchasing a monthly subscription), but I'll figure out a way to > distribute it - or feel free to contact me anytime. > > Thanks. > > Scott Cadillac > ~ 902-624-1266 > ~ http://www.xmlx.net/ > > > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
Hi Stefan, Thank you. There's a few things I thought about changing afterwards, but I don't want to mess with it now that it's started collecting data. Hopefully people will take the time to fill in the "Other" option field with this kind of information. Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 12:22 PM, Stefan Gonick wrote: Hi Scott, I filled out your survey. Thanks for doing that. May I suggest that you add ColdFusion and Ruby on Rails to your list of transition technologies? I think that those 2 may be fairly popular. Warm regards, Stefan From: Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:43 AM To: Witango-Talk Subject: SPAM-MED: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey This poll is informal, anonymous and just for curiosity purposes. http://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp? sid=pfih6m7nyni0c8n469661 It doesn't look like I can make the results public just yet (without purchasing a monthly subscription), but I'll figure out a way to distribute it - or feel free to contact me anytime. Thanks. Scott Cadillac ~ 902-624-1266 ~ http://www.xmlx.net/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
re: SPAM-MED: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
Hi Scott, I filled out your survey. Thanks for doing that. May I suggest that you add ColdFusion and Ruby on Rails to your list of transition technologies? I think that those 2 may be fairly popular. Warm regards, Stefan From: Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:43 AM To: Witango-Talk Subject: SPAM-MED: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey This poll is informal, anonymous and just for curiosity purposes. http://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=pfih6m7nyni0c8n469661 It doesn't look like I can make the results public just yet (without purchasing a monthly subscription), but I'll figure out a way to distribute it - or feel free to contact me anytime. Thanks. Scott Cadillac ~ 902-624-1266 ~ http://www.xmlx.net/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
You are not alone Rick, we only have Macs also as servers Christian Am 05.08.2008 um 14:22 schrieb Rick Sanders: Is it just me, or does it seem that a large portion of the existing WiTango user base is using the Macintosh platform? TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey (results link)
Hi all, I think this is where to see the results. http://freeonlinesurveys.com/viewresults.asp?c=x4jovb5l0cv4h6y469661 Let me know if anybody has any problems. Thanks. Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 10:42 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote: This poll is informal, anonymous and just for curiosity purposes. http://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp? sid=pfih6m7nyni0c8n469661 It doesn't look like I can make the results public just yet (without purchasing a monthly subscription), but I'll figure out a way to distribute it - or feel free to contact me anytime. Thanks. Scott Cadillac ~ 902-624-1266 ~ http://www.xmlx.net/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: Programmer Survey
This poll is informal, anonymous and just for curiosity purposes. http://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=pfih6m7nyni0c8n469661 It doesn't look like I can make the results public just yet (without purchasing a monthly subscription), but I'll figure out a way to distribute it - or feel free to contact me anytime. Thanks. Scott Cadillac ~ 902-624-1266 ~ http://www.xmlx.net/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
Do you plan on moving to witango 6 Would you like to see a monthly newsletter or email form the witango people -- Dan Stein FileMaker 7 Certified Developer Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle Telford PA 18969 Land: 215-799-0192 Cell: 610-256-2843 Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st) FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dss-db.com "I destroy my enemies when I make them my friends." Abraham Lincoln > From: Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:54:03 -0300 > To: "witango-talk@witango.com" > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] > > Hi Bill, > > Thank you for the suggestion. I'll sign-up and post a link. > > Are there any other questions to ask? > > Scott, > > > > > On Aug-5-2008, at 9:50 AM, Bill Downall wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Good question Rick, >> >> Maybe someone should setup an anonymous Poll somewhere? I'd be very >> curious to see the results. Although I do know more than one >> customer running a large number of Windows servers with Witango. >> >> Another list I subscribe to just did something similar through >> freeonlinesurveys.com >> >> This is not a recommendation or endorsement, but it looked pretty >> easy. And it's much easier to organize the results than combing >> through everyone's email responses. >> >> >> Bill >> >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
-- Dan Stein > From: Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:34:45 -0300 > To: "witango-talk@witango.com" > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] > > Good question Rick, > > Maybe someone should setup an anonymous Poll somewhere? I'd be very > curious to see the results. Although I do know more than one customer > running a large number of Windows servers with Witango. > > What are some good questions to ask? > > What version are you using? > - 3.x > - 4.x/2000 > - 5.0 > - 5.5 X > > What platform is your Editor? > - Windows Yes > - Mac > > Are you using the Java Compiler? > - Yes > - No X > > What platform is your server? > - Windows X > - Mac > - Linux > - Solaris > > How many servers do you run? > - 1 > - 2~5 X > - 6~10 > - 11~20 > - 20+ > How often do you use Witango? ~ Everyday, all my projects ~ About half of my projects X ~ At least once a year ~ No longer code in Witango, I just hang out on the list to annoy people or because I can't help myself (check) > Just a thought... > > Scott, > > > > > On Aug-5-2008, at 9:22 AM, Rick Sanders wrote: > >> Is it just me, or does it seem that a large portion of the existing >> WiTango user base is using the Macintosh platform? >> >> >> Rick Sanders >> Webenergy >> Canada: 902-431-7279 >> USA: 919-799-9076 >> Canada: www.webenergy.ca >> USA: www.webenergyusa.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: August-05-08 9:10 AM >> To: witango-talk@witango.com >> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] >> >> I have found that to be the case also but a monthly update to the >> community >> would be very important. >> -- >> Dan Stein >> FileMaker 7 Certified Developer >> Digital Software Solutions >> 799 Evergreen Circle >> Telford PA 18969 >> Land: 215-799-0192 >> Cell: 610-256-2843 >> Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st) >> FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.dss-db.com >> >> "The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love >> stop at >> the border? " >> >> Pablo Casals >> >> >> >>> From: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" >>> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:54:31 -0700 >>> To: "witango-talk@witango.com" >>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] >>> >>> >>> Delays are understandable >>> and part of the business, but communication is essential. >>> At least a monthly communication would go a long way >>> with the development community and I know I"m not >>> alone in this feeling. >>> >>> >>> Agreed. Phil does however answer his phone & will reply to your >>> email. >>> >>> Mikal Anderson >>> PDX >>> >>> >>> On 8/4/2008 9:29 PM, John Carrieri wrote: Hi Christian, I too have used witango for 11 years which is hard to believe and also initially on a APPLE AWS 8550. When we first started jokes.com (since sold too Comedy Central/ it sucks now despite the fact that they have still stayed in #1 position on goog) we had three front ends and one back end running Butler and we made it work serving millions of viewers! Since I've used tango / witango on everything from Enterprise level Sun servers to the latest Xserves. Through all of this it has been extremely stable through a decade of use, with the exception of running it under 10.5. While I have used it on Mac and Sun platforms I always appreciated that it could also run on Windows and later Linux. Put quite simply it is a great flexible platform. I understand the challenges that Witango must have as a small company, with a complex product, but they need to communicate to their customers. Delays are understandable and part of the business, but communication is essential. At least a monthly communication would go a long way with the development community and I know I"m not alone in this feeling. Please, please communicate with us. I think that is all anyone is asking. Sincerely, John On 8/4/08 8:52 PM, "Christian Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be easy to post this message to the list. > > Or at least a person who is in connection with will could make the > communication with the still existing community. > > I do not know, how many peaple are still on the list or using > witango. > > I checked that this is my 11th year since starting With Butler/ > Tango > on an APPLE AWS 8550. > > It would be interesting to know, how many people are still using/ > developing Witango > > Christian > > > Am 04.08.2008 um 21:34 schrieb Mikal Anderson: > >> Below is latest from Phil. >> Original Message >> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?] >
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]
I am on Windows 5.5 never worked right on Mac -- Dan Stein FileMaker 7 Certified Developer FileMaker 9 Certified Developer Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle Telford PA 18969 Land: 215-799-0192 Cell: 610-256-2843 Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st) FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dss-db.com "It's very hard to grow, because it's difficult to let go of models of ourselves in which we've invested so heavily." > From: Rick Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:22:18 -0300 > To: > Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] > > Is it just me, or does it seem that a large portion of the existing WiTango > user base is using the Macintosh platform? > > > Rick Sanders > Webenergy > Canada: 902-431-7279 > USA: 919-799-9076 > Canada: www.webenergy.ca > USA: www.webenergyusa.com > > -Original Message- > From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: August-05-08 9:10 AM > To: witango-talk@witango.com > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] > > I have found that to be the case also but a monthly update to the community > would be very important. > -- > Dan Stein > FileMaker 7 Certified Developer > Digital Software Solutions > 799 Evergreen Circle > Telford PA 18969 > Land: 215-799-0192 > Cell: 610-256-2843 > Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st) > FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.dss-db.com > > "The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at > the border? " > > Pablo Casals > > > >> From: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" >> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:54:31 -0700 >> To: "witango-talk@witango.com" >> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] >> >> >> Delays are understandable >> and part of the business, but communication is essential. >> At least a monthly communication would go a long way >> with the development community and I know I"m not >> alone in this feeling. >> >> >> Agreed. Phil does however answer his phone & will reply to your email. >> >> Mikal Anderson >> PDX >> >> >> On 8/4/2008 9:29 PM, John Carrieri wrote: >>> Hi Christian, >>> >>> I too have used witango for 11 years which is hard >>> to believe and also initially on a APPLE AWS 8550. When >>> we first started jokes.com (since sold too Comedy Central/ >>> it sucks now despite the fact that they have still stayed in #1 >>> position on goog) we had three front ends and one back end >>> running Butler and we made it work serving millions of viewers! >>> Since I've used tango / witango on everything from Enterprise level >>> Sun servers to the latest Xserves. Through all of this it has been >>> extremely stable through a decade of use, with the exception of running >>> it under 10.5. While I have used it on Mac and Sun platforms >>> I always appreciated that it could also run on Windows and >>> later Linux. Put quite simply it is a great flexible platform. >>> >>> I understand the challenges that Witango must have as >>> a small company, with a complex product, but they need >>> to communicate to their customers. Delays are understandable >>> and part of the business, but communication is essential. >>> At least a monthly communication would go a long way >>> with the development community and I know I"m not >>> alone in this feeling. >>> >>> Please, please communicate with us. I think that is all >>> anyone is asking. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8/4/08 8:52 PM, "Christian Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> It would be easy to post this message to the list. Or at least a person who is in connection with will could make the communication with the still existing community. I do not know, how many peaple are still on the list or using witango. I checked that this is my 11th year since starting With Butler/Tango on an APPLE AWS 8550. It would be interesting to know, how many people are still using/ developing Witango Christian Am 04.08.2008 um 21:34 schrieb Mikal Anderson: > Below is latest from Phil. > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?] > Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:57:07 +1000 > From: Phil Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Mikal, > The major issue we have is that we have to make sure that the code > is OK to go open source and the license protects WT's rights. > Without these being finished we cannot release. We were also > advised to not issue any more betas until this was completed. When > the lawyers give us the OK we will get it out. > > > Regards > > Phil > > On August 1st, 2008, at 4:37 AM, Mikal Anderson wrote: > >>
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How about questions about transitions to other/new technologies? Do you plan to move existing Witango applications to other technologies? a) already started b) starting now c) 1 to 3 years d) no need to for now What do you see as workable transition platform? a) LAMP / PHP b) MS visual studio/dot net c) ... f) no opinion yet Bill On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Bill, > > Thank you for the suggestion. I'll sign-up and post a link. > > Are there any other questions to ask? > > Scott, > > > > > > On Aug-5-2008, at 9:50 AM, Bill Downall wrote: > > >> >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Good question Rick, >> >> Maybe someone should setup an anonymous Poll somewhere? I'd be very >> curious to see the results. Although I do know more than one customer >> running a large number of Windows servers with Witango. >> >> Another list I subscribe to just did something similar through >> freeonlinesurveys.com >> >> This is not a recommendation or endorsement, but it looked pretty easy. >> And it's much easier to organize the results than combing through everyone's >> email responses. >> >> >> Bill >> >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf >> > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
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Hi Bill, Thank you for the suggestion. I'll sign-up and post a link. Are there any other questions to ask? Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 9:50 AM, Bill Downall wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good question Rick, Maybe someone should setup an anonymous Poll somewhere? I'd be very curious to see the results. Although I do know more than one customer running a large number of Windows servers with Witango. Another list I subscribe to just did something similar through freeonlinesurveys.com This is not a recommendation or endorsement, but it looked pretty easy. And it's much easier to organize the results than combing through everyone's email responses. Bill TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
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On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good question Rick, > > Maybe someone should setup an anonymous Poll somewhere? I'd be very curious > to see the results. Although I do know more than one customer running a > large number of Windows servers with Witango. > Another list I subscribe to just did something similar through freeonlinesurveys.com This is not a recommendation or endorsement, but it looked pretty easy. And it's much easier to organize the results than combing through everyone's email responses. Bill TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
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Rick Sanders Webenergy Canada: 902-431-7279 USA: 919-799-9076 Canada: www.webenergy.ca USA: www.webenergyusa.com How often do you use Witango? - I use WiTango every 3 to 4 months on average. Usually it's to add a feature to an existing app for an existing client. 1 new WiTango project in the last 2 years. Unfortunately, my clients and complexity of the applications my clients have requested have gone beyond the capabilities of the WiTango technology. In many cases, it would take too long to incorporate a feature in WiTango (PDF generation, image resizing) than in another technology that already has it incorporated. TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
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Oh, and something like: How often do you use Witango? XX Everyday, 95% my projects ~ About half of my projects ~ At least once a year ~ No longer code in Witango, I just hang out on the list to annoy people or because I can't help myself (check) Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 9:34 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote: > Good question Rick, > > Maybe someone should setup an anonymous Poll somewhere? I'd be very > curious to see the results. Although I do know more than one customer > running a large number of Windows servers with Witango. > > What are some good questions to ask? > > What version are you using? > - 3.x > - 4.x/2000 > - 5.0 > - 5.5 > > What platform is your Editor? > - Windows > - Mac > > Are you using the Java Compiler? > - Yes > - No > > What platform is your server? > - Windows > - Mac > - Linux > - Solaris > > How many servers do you run? > - 1 > - 2~5 > - 6~10 > - 11~20 > - 20+ > > Just a thought... > > Scott, > > > > > On Aug-5-2008, at 9:22 AM, Rick Sanders wrote: > >> Is it just me, or does it seem that a large portion of the existing >> WiTango user base is using the Macintosh platform? >> >> >> Rick Sanders >> Webenergy >> Canada: 902-431-7279 >> USA: 919-799-9076 >> Canada: www.webenergy.ca >> USA: www.webenergyusa.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: August-05-08 9:10 AM >> To: witango-talk@witango.com >> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] >> >> I have found that to be the case also but a monthly update to the >> community would be very important. >> -- >> Dan Stein >> FileMaker 7 Certified Developer >> Digital Software Solutions >> 799 Evergreen Circle >> Telford PA 18969 >> Land: 215-799-0192 >> Cell: 610-256-2843 >> Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st) >> FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dss-db.com >> >> "The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love >> stop at the border? " >> >> Pablo Casals >> >> >> >>> From: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" >>> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:54:31 -0700 >>> To: "witango-talk@witango.com" >>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] >>> >>> >>> Delays are understandable >>> and part of the business, but communication is essential. >>> At least a monthly communication would go a long way with the >>> development community and I know I"m not alone in this feeling. >>> >>> >>> Agreed. Phil does however answer his phone & will reply to your >>> email. >>> >>> Mikal Anderson >>> PDX >>> >>> >>> On 8/4/2008 9:29 PM, John Carrieri wrote: Hi Christian, I too have used witango for 11 years which is hard to believe and also initially on a APPLE AWS 8550. When we first started jokes.com (since sold too Comedy Central/ it sucks now despite the fact that they have still stayed in #1 position on goog) we had three front ends and one back end running Butler and we made it work serving millions of viewers! Since I've used tango / witango on everything from Enterprise level Sun servers to the latest Xserves. Through all of this it has been extremely stable through a decade of use, with the exception of running it under 10.5. While I have used it on Mac and Sun platforms I always appreciated that it could also run on Windows and later Linux. Put quite simply it is a great flexible platform. I understand the challenges that Witango must have as a small company, with a complex product, but they need to communicate to their customers. Delays are understandable and part of the business, but communication is essential. At least a monthly communication would go a long way with the development community and I know I"m not alone in this feeling. Please, please communicate with us. I think that is all anyone is asking. Sincerely, John On 8/4/08 8:52 PM, "Christian Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be easy to post this message to the list. > > Or at least a person who is in connection with will could make the > communication with the still existing community. > > I do not know, how many peaple are still on the list or using > witango. > > I checked that this is my 11th year since starting With Butler/ > Tango on an APPLE AWS 8550. > > It would be interesting to know, how many people are still using/ > developing Witango > > Christian > > > Am 04.08.2008 um 21:34 schrieb Mikal Anderson: > >> Below is latest from Phil. >> Original Message >> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?] >> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:57:07 +1000 >> From: Phil Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >>
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What version are you using? - 3.x XX 4.x/2000 - 5.0 - 5.5 What platform is your Editor? XX Windows - Mac Are you using the Java Compiler? - Yes XX No What platform is your server? XX Windows - Mac - Linux - Solaris How many Witango servers do you run? - 1 XX 2~5 - 6~10 - 11~20 - 20+ Just a thought... Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 9:22 AM, Rick Sanders wrote: > Is it just me, or does it seem that a large portion of the existing > WiTango user base is using the Macintosh platform? > > > Rick Sanders > Webenergy > Canada: 902-431-7279 > USA: 919-799-9076 > Canada: www.webenergy.ca > USA: www.webenergyusa.com > > -Original Message- > From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: August-05-08 9:10 AM > To: witango-talk@witango.com > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] > > I have found that to be the case also but a monthly update to the > community would be very important. > -- > Dan Stein > FileMaker 7 Certified Developer > Digital Software Solutions > 799 Evergreen Circle > Telford PA 18969 > Land: 215-799-0192 > Cell: 610-256-2843 > Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st) > FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dss-db.com > > "The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love > stop at the border? " > > Pablo Casals > > > >> From: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" >> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:54:31 -0700 >> To: "witango-talk@witango.com" >> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] >> >> >> Delays are understandable >> and part of the business, but communication is essential. >> At least a monthly communication would go a long way with the >> development community and I know I"m not alone in this feeling. >> >> >> Agreed. Phil does however answer his phone & will reply to your >> email. >> >> Mikal Anderson >> PDX >> >> >> On 8/4/2008 9:29 PM, John Carrieri wrote: >>> Hi Christian, >>> >>> I too have used witango for 11 years which is hard to believe and >>> also initially on a APPLE AWS 8550. When we first started jokes.com >>> (since sold too Comedy Central/ it sucks now despite the fact that >>> they have still stayed in #1 position on goog) we had three front >>> ends and one back end running Butler and we made it work serving >>> millions of viewers! >>> Since I've used tango / witango on everything from Enterprise level >>> Sun servers to the latest Xserves. Through all of this it has been >>> extremely stable through a decade of use, with the exception of >>> running it under 10.5. While I have used it on Mac and Sun platforms >>> I always appreciated that it could also run on Windows and later >>> Linux. Put quite simply it is a great flexible platform. >>> >>> I understand the challenges that Witango must have as a small >>> company, with a complex product, but they need to communicate to >>> their customers. Delays are understandable and part of the business, >>> but communication is essential. >>> At least a monthly communication would go a long way with the >>> development community and I know I"m not alone in this feeling. >>> >>> Please, please communicate with us. I think that is all anyone is >>> asking. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8/4/08 8:52 PM, "Christian Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> It would be easy to post this message to the list. Or at least a person who is in connection with will could make the communication with the still existing community. I do not know, how many peaple are still on the list or using witango. I checked that this is my 11th year since starting With Butler/ Tango on an APPLE AWS 8550. It would be interesting to know, how many people are still using/ developing Witango Christian Am 04.08.2008 um 21:34 schrieb Mikal Anderson: > Below is latest from Phil. > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?] > Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:57:07 +1000 > From: Phil Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Mikal, > The major issue we have is that we have to make sure that the code > is OK to go open source and the license protects WT's rights. > Without these being finished we cannot release. We were also > advised to not issue any more betas until this was completed. When > the lawyers give us the OK we will get it out. > > > Regards > > Phil > > On August 1st, 2008, at 4:37 AM, Mikal Anderson wrote: > >> Phil, the list has not heard a peep from you. What's up with >> version 6? >> >> Mikal Anderson >> PDX >> >> >> Original Message >> Subject: Witango-Talk: Version 6? >> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:27:00 -0400 >>
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I'll Start. Rick Sanders Webenergy Software www.webenergy.ca My 5.5 server is a dev server only. I have had issues in production with the 5.5 server and load-balancing. I run T2000 on 2 servers (load-balanced) for clients we have developed solutions for before switching to Cold Fusion 3 years ago. What version are you using? - 3.x - 4.x/2000 - YES - 5.0 - 5.5 - YES What platform is your Editor? - Windows - YES - Mac Are you using the Java Compiler? - Yes - No - NO What platform is your server? - Windows - YES - Mac - Linux - Solaris How many servers do you run? - 1 - 2~5 - YES - 6~10 - 11~20 - 20+ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
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Using Windoze here. Started with Mac and Butler a long... Long time ago A 8500 if I remember correctly. 'Dude -Original Message- From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:22 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] Is it just me, or does it seem that a large portion of the existing WiTango user base is using the Macintosh platform? Rick Sanders Webenergy Canada: 902-431-7279 USA: 919-799-9076 Canada: www.webenergy.ca USA: www.webenergyusa.com -Original Message- From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August-05-08 9:10 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] I have found that to be the case also but a monthly update to the community would be very important. -- Dan Stein FileMaker 7 Certified Developer Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle Telford PA 18969 Land: 215-799-0192 Cell: 610-256-2843 Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st) FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dss-db.com "The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at the border? " Pablo Casals > From: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" > Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:54:31 -0700 > To: "witango-talk@witango.com" > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] > > > Delays are understandable > and part of the business, but communication is essential. > At least a monthly communication would go a long way with the > development community and I know I"m not alone in this feeling. > > > Agreed. Phil does however answer his phone & will reply to your email. > > Mikal Anderson > PDX > > > On 8/4/2008 9:29 PM, John Carrieri wrote: >> Hi Christian, >> >> I too have used witango for 11 years which is hard to believe and >> also initially on a APPLE AWS 8550. When we first started jokes.com >> (since sold too Comedy Central/ it sucks now despite the fact that >> they have still stayed in #1 position on goog) we had three front >> ends and one back end running Butler and we made it work serving >> millions of viewers! >> Since I've used tango / witango on everything from Enterprise level >> Sun servers to the latest Xserves. Through all of this it has been >> extremely stable through a decade of use, with the exception of >> running it under 10.5. While I have used it on Mac and Sun platforms >> I always appreciated that it could also run on Windows and later >> Linux. Put quite simply it is a great flexible platform. >> >> I understand the challenges that Witango must have as a small >> company, with a complex product, but they need to communicate to >> their customers. Delays are understandable and part of the business, >> but communication is essential. >> At least a monthly communication would go a long way with the >> development community and I know I"m not alone in this feeling. >> >> Please, please communicate with us. I think that is all anyone is >> asking. >> >> Sincerely, >> John >> >> >> >> On 8/4/08 8:52 PM, "Christian Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> It would be easy to post this message to the list. >>> >>> Or at least a person who is in connection with will could make the >>> communication with the still existing community. >>> >>> I do not know, how many peaple are still on the list or using witango. >>> >>> I checked that this is my 11th year since starting With Butler/Tango >>> on an APPLE AWS 8550. >>> >>> It would be interesting to know, how many people are still using/ >>> developing Witango >>> >>> Christian >>> >>> >>> Am 04.08.2008 um 21:34 schrieb Mikal Anderson: >>> Below is latest from Phil. Original Message Subject: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:57:07 +1000 From: Phil Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mikal, The major issue we have is that we have to make sure that the code is OK to go open source and the license protects WT's rights. Without these being finished we cannot release. We were also advised to not issue any more betas until this was completed. When the lawyers give us the OK we will get it out. Regards Phil On August 1st, 2008, at 4:37 AM, Mikal Anderson wrote: > Phil, the list has not heard a peep from you. What's up with > version 6? > > Mikal Anderson > PDX > > > Original Message > Subject: Witango-Talk: Version 6? > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:27:00 -0400 > From: Stefan Gonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: witango-talk@witango.com > To: witango-talk@witango.com > > > > A while back someone predicted that vers
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Oh, and something like: How often do you use Witango? ~ Everyday, all my projects ~ About half of my projects ~ At least once a year ~ No longer code in Witango, I just hang out on the list to annoy people or because I can't help myself (check) Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 9:34 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote: Good question Rick, Maybe someone should setup an anonymous Poll somewhere? I'd be very curious to see the results. Although I do know more than one customer running a large number of Windows servers with Witango. What are some good questions to ask? What version are you using? - 3.x - 4.x/2000 - 5.0 - 5.5 What platform is your Editor? - Windows - Mac Are you using the Java Compiler? - Yes - No What platform is your server? - Windows - Mac - Linux - Solaris How many servers do you run? - 1 - 2~5 - 6~10 - 11~20 - 20+ Just a thought... Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 9:22 AM, Rick Sanders wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem that a large portion of the existing WiTango user base is using the Macintosh platform? Rick Sanders Webenergy Canada: 902-431-7279 USA: 919-799-9076 Canada: www.webenergy.ca USA: www.webenergyusa.com -Original Message- From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August-05-08 9:10 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] I have found that to be the case also but a monthly update to the community would be very important. -- Dan Stein FileMaker 7 Certified Developer Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle Telford PA 18969 Land: 215-799-0192 Cell: 610-256-2843 Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st) FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dss-db.com "The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at the border? " Pablo Casals From: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:54:31 -0700 To: "witango-talk@witango.com" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] Delays are understandable and part of the business, but communication is essential. At least a monthly communication would go a long way with the development community and I know I"m not alone in this feeling. Agreed. Phil does however answer his phone & will reply to your email. Mikal Anderson PDX On 8/4/2008 9:29 PM, John Carrieri wrote: Hi Christian, I too have used witango for 11 years which is hard to believe and also initially on a APPLE AWS 8550. When we first started jokes.com (since sold too Comedy Central/ it sucks now despite the fact that they have still stayed in #1 position on goog) we had three front ends and one back end running Butler and we made it work serving millions of viewers! Since I've used tango / witango on everything from Enterprise level Sun servers to the latest Xserves. Through all of this it has been extremely stable through a decade of use, with the exception of running it under 10.5. While I have used it on Mac and Sun platforms I always appreciated that it could also run on Windows and later Linux. Put quite simply it is a great flexible platform. I understand the challenges that Witango must have as a small company, with a complex product, but they need to communicate to their customers. Delays are understandable and part of the business, but communication is essential. At least a monthly communication would go a long way with the development community and I know I"m not alone in this feeling. Please, please communicate with us. I think that is all anyone is asking. Sincerely, John On 8/4/08 8:52 PM, "Christian Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It would be easy to post this message to the list. Or at least a person who is in connection with will could make the communication with the still existing community. I do not know, how many peaple are still on the list or using witango. I checked that this is my 11th year since starting With Butler/ Tango on an APPLE AWS 8550. It would be interesting to know, how many people are still using/ developing Witango Christian Am 04.08.2008 um 21:34 schrieb Mikal Anderson: Below is latest from Phil. Original Message Subject: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:57:07 +1000 From: Phil Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mikal, The major issue we have is that we have to make sure that the code is OK to go open source and the license protects WT's rights. Without these being finished we cannot release. We were also advised to not issue any more betas until this was completed. When the lawyers give us the OK we will get it out. Regards Phil On August 1st, 2008, at 4:37 AM, Mikal Anderson wrote: Phil, the list has not heard a peep from you. What's up with version 6? Mikal Anderson PDX Original Message Subject: Witango-Talk: Version 6? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:27:00 -0400 From:
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Good question Rick, Maybe someone should setup an anonymous Poll somewhere? I'd be very curious to see the results. Although I do know more than one customer running a large number of Windows servers with Witango. What are some good questions to ask? What version are you using? - 3.x - 4.x/2000 - 5.0 - 5.5 What platform is your Editor? - Windows - Mac Are you using the Java Compiler? - Yes - No What platform is your server? - Windows - Mac - Linux - Solaris How many servers do you run? - 1 - 2~5 - 6~10 - 11~20 - 20+ Just a thought... Scott, On Aug-5-2008, at 9:22 AM, Rick Sanders wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem that a large portion of the existing WiTango user base is using the Macintosh platform? Rick Sanders Webenergy Canada: 902-431-7279 USA: 919-799-9076 Canada: www.webenergy.ca USA: www.webenergyusa.com -Original Message- From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August-05-08 9:10 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] I have found that to be the case also but a monthly update to the community would be very important. -- Dan Stein FileMaker 7 Certified Developer Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle Telford PA 18969 Land: 215-799-0192 Cell: 610-256-2843 Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st) FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dss-db.com "The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at the border? " Pablo Casals From: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:54:31 -0700 To: "witango-talk@witango.com" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] Delays are understandable and part of the business, but communication is essential. At least a monthly communication would go a long way with the development community and I know I"m not alone in this feeling. Agreed. Phil does however answer his phone & will reply to your email. Mikal Anderson PDX On 8/4/2008 9:29 PM, John Carrieri wrote: Hi Christian, I too have used witango for 11 years which is hard to believe and also initially on a APPLE AWS 8550. When we first started jokes.com (since sold too Comedy Central/ it sucks now despite the fact that they have still stayed in #1 position on goog) we had three front ends and one back end running Butler and we made it work serving millions of viewers! Since I've used tango / witango on everything from Enterprise level Sun servers to the latest Xserves. Through all of this it has been extremely stable through a decade of use, with the exception of running it under 10.5. While I have used it on Mac and Sun platforms I always appreciated that it could also run on Windows and later Linux. Put quite simply it is a great flexible platform. I understand the challenges that Witango must have as a small company, with a complex product, but they need to communicate to their customers. Delays are understandable and part of the business, but communication is essential. At least a monthly communication would go a long way with the development community and I know I"m not alone in this feeling. Please, please communicate with us. I think that is all anyone is asking. Sincerely, John On 8/4/08 8:52 PM, "Christian Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It would be easy to post this message to the list. Or at least a person who is in connection with will could make the communication with the still existing community. I do not know, how many peaple are still on the list or using witango. I checked that this is my 11th year since starting With Butler/ Tango on an APPLE AWS 8550. It would be interesting to know, how many people are still using/ developing Witango Christian Am 04.08.2008 um 21:34 schrieb Mikal Anderson: Below is latest from Phil. Original Message Subject: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:57:07 +1000 From: Phil Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mikal, The major issue we have is that we have to make sure that the code is OK to go open source and the license protects WT's rights. Without these being finished we cannot release. We were also advised to not issue any more betas until this was completed. When the lawyers give us the OK we will get it out. Regards Phil On August 1st, 2008, at 4:37 AM, Mikal Anderson wrote: Phil, the list has not heard a peep from you. What's up with version 6? Mikal Anderson PDX Original Message Subject: Witango-Talk: Version 6? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:27:00 -0400 From: Stefan Gonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: witango-talk@witango.com To: witango-talk@witango.com A while back someone predicted that version 6 was coming out last week, though it was obviously not from With. Was that a completely mistaken notion, or was there something to it? Is version 6 coming out any time soon?
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On 05/08/2008, at 10:22 PM, Rick Sanders wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem that a large portion of the existing WiTango user base is using the Macintosh platform? I think that is correct. There are so many options in the Windows world and us Mac users are used to being the odd ones out. TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
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Is it just me, or does it seem that a large portion of the existing WiTango user base is using the Macintosh platform? Rick Sanders Webenergy Canada: 902-431-7279 USA: 919-799-9076 Canada: www.webenergy.ca USA: www.webenergyusa.com -Original Message- From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August-05-08 9:10 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] I have found that to be the case also but a monthly update to the community would be very important. -- Dan Stein FileMaker 7 Certified Developer Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle Telford PA 18969 Land: 215-799-0192 Cell: 610-256-2843 Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st) FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dss-db.com "The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at the border? " Pablo Casals > From: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" > Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:54:31 -0700 > To: "witango-talk@witango.com" > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] > > > Delays are understandable > and part of the business, but communication is essential. > At least a monthly communication would go a long way > with the development community and I know I"m not > alone in this feeling. > > > Agreed. Phil does however answer his phone & will reply to your email. > > Mikal Anderson > PDX > > > On 8/4/2008 9:29 PM, John Carrieri wrote: >> Hi Christian, >> >> I too have used witango for 11 years which is hard >> to believe and also initially on a APPLE AWS 8550. When >> we first started jokes.com (since sold too Comedy Central/ >> it sucks now despite the fact that they have still stayed in #1 >> position on goog) we had three front ends and one back end >> running Butler and we made it work serving millions of viewers! >> Since I've used tango / witango on everything from Enterprise level >> Sun servers to the latest Xserves. Through all of this it has been >> extremely stable through a decade of use, with the exception of running >> it under 10.5. While I have used it on Mac and Sun platforms >> I always appreciated that it could also run on Windows and >> later Linux. Put quite simply it is a great flexible platform. >> >> I understand the challenges that Witango must have as >> a small company, with a complex product, but they need >> to communicate to their customers. Delays are understandable >> and part of the business, but communication is essential. >> At least a monthly communication would go a long way >> with the development community and I know I"m not >> alone in this feeling. >> >> Please, please communicate with us. I think that is all >> anyone is asking. >> >> Sincerely, >> John >> >> >> >> On 8/4/08 8:52 PM, "Christian Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> It would be easy to post this message to the list. >>> >>> Or at least a person who is in connection with will could make the >>> communication with the still existing community. >>> >>> I do not know, how many peaple are still on the list or using witango. >>> >>> I checked that this is my 11th year since starting With Butler/Tango >>> on an APPLE AWS 8550. >>> >>> It would be interesting to know, how many people are still using/ >>> developing Witango >>> >>> Christian >>> >>> >>> Am 04.08.2008 um 21:34 schrieb Mikal Anderson: >>> Below is latest from Phil. Original Message Subject: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:57:07 +1000 From: Phil Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mikal, The major issue we have is that we have to make sure that the code is OK to go open source and the license protects WT's rights. Without these being finished we cannot release. We were also advised to not issue any more betas until this was completed. When the lawyers give us the OK we will get it out. Regards Phil On August 1st, 2008, at 4:37 AM, Mikal Anderson wrote: > Phil, the list has not heard a peep from you. What's up with > version 6? > > Mikal Anderson > PDX > > > Original Message > Subject: Witango-Talk: Version 6? > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:27:00 -0400 > From: Stefan Gonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: witango-talk@witango.com > To: witango-talk@witango.com > > > > A while back someone predicted that version 6 was coming out last > week, > though it was obviously not from With. Was that a completely > mistaken > notion, or was there something to it? Is version 6 coming out any > time soon? > > Stefan TO UNSUBSCRIBE:
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I have found that to be the case also but a monthly update to the community would be very important. -- Dan Stein FileMaker 7 Certified Developer Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle Telford PA 18969 Land: 215-799-0192 Cell: 610-256-2843 Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st) FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dss-db.com "The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at the border? " Pablo Casals > From: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" > Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:54:31 -0700 > To: "witango-talk@witango.com" > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]] > > > Delays are understandable > and part of the business, but communication is essential. > At least a monthly communication would go a long way > with the development community and I know I"m not > alone in this feeling. > > > Agreed. Phil does however answer his phone & will reply to your email. > > Mikal Anderson > PDX > > > On 8/4/2008 9:29 PM, John Carrieri wrote: >> Hi Christian, >> >> I too have used witango for 11 years which is hard >> to believe and also initially on a APPLE AWS 8550. When >> we first started jokes.com (since sold too Comedy Central/ >> it sucks now despite the fact that they have still stayed in #1 >> position on goog) we had three front ends and one back end >> running Butler and we made it work serving millions of viewers! >> Since I've used tango / witango on everything from Enterprise level >> Sun servers to the latest Xserves. Through all of this it has been >> extremely stable through a decade of use, with the exception of running >> it under 10.5. While I have used it on Mac and Sun platforms >> I always appreciated that it could also run on Windows and >> later Linux. Put quite simply it is a great flexible platform. >> >> I understand the challenges that Witango must have as >> a small company, with a complex product, but they need >> to communicate to their customers. Delays are understandable >> and part of the business, but communication is essential. >> At least a monthly communication would go a long way >> with the development community and I know I"m not >> alone in this feeling. >> >> Please, please communicate with us. I think that is all >> anyone is asking. >> >> Sincerely, >> John >> >> >> >> On 8/4/08 8:52 PM, "Christian Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> It would be easy to post this message to the list. >>> >>> Or at least a person who is in connection with will could make the >>> communication with the still existing community. >>> >>> I do not know, how many peaple are still on the list or using witango. >>> >>> I checked that this is my 11th year since starting With Butler/Tango >>> on an APPLE AWS 8550. >>> >>> It would be interesting to know, how many people are still using/ >>> developing Witango >>> >>> Christian >>> >>> >>> Am 04.08.2008 um 21:34 schrieb Mikal Anderson: >>> Below is latest from Phil. Original Message Subject: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:57:07 +1000 From: Phil Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mikal, The major issue we have is that we have to make sure that the code is OK to go open source and the license protects WT's rights. Without these being finished we cannot release. We were also advised to not issue any more betas until this was completed. When the lawyers give us the OK we will get it out. Regards Phil On August 1st, 2008, at 4:37 AM, Mikal Anderson wrote: > Phil, the list has not heard a peep from you. What's up with > version 6? > > Mikal Anderson > PDX > > > Original Message > Subject: Witango-Talk: Version 6? > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:27:00 -0400 > From: Stefan Gonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: witango-talk@witango.com > To: witango-talk@witango.com > > > > A while back someone predicted that version 6 was coming out last > week, > though it was obviously not from With. Was that a completely > mistaken > notion, or was there something to it? Is version 6 coming out any > time soon? > > Stefan TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf >>> >>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf >>> >> >> __ >> >> John Carrieri >> Chairman & CEO >> >> U. Inc. >> 12250 El Camino Real, Suite #100 >> San Diego, Ca. 92130 >> Office: (858) 847-3350 x1001 >> email: [EMA