Re: Witango-Talk: Non-notable product

2008-10-18 Thread D. Richardy
That's OK. They have right.

Original Phil, wroten on 29.04.2008:
  Hi all, 
  Before this thread gets a life of its own let me just say that there is more 
to this release as we move to commercial open source model than just software.  
 We have basically finished the engineering but there are still some legal and 
business issues we are continuing to work through.


  It all takes time and we are not just sitting here idly.  While we have been 
waiting for these issue to be resolved we have been adding extra features to 
the studio.  As soon as I can release v6 I will.  


  Regards


  Phil
Also, Phil have writen on 11.02.2008

  WITANGO COMMUNITY UPDATE
  

  Th Witango 6 development project is now drawing to a close and in the  
  coming weeks a full public beta of both studio and server will be  
  released. The full release of Witango 6 will be accompanied by  
  significant changes to both pricing and licensing,  we therefore take  
  this opportunity to update the community as we move forward.


  New Licensing
  -
  Once the beta testing has been completed and version 6 goes into  
  release, the source code for both the server and studio will be open  
  sourced under its own license.  Witango will continue to be a  
  commercial product and a license will need to be purchased. There will  
  be 3 editions of the Server:

  The Lite edition - no change to current license conditions
  The Developer edition - no change to current license conditions.
  The Professional edition - single machine license, with no limitation  
  on number of processes or CPUs.


  New Pricing
  ---
  Witango Studio v6 US$199

  Witango Studio upgrade - US$99

  Witango Server Lite - Free
  Witango Server Developer Edition - Free with studio
  Witango Server Professional - US$1499

  Witango Server Upgrade from v5.5 - US$999
  Witango Server Upgrade from pre v5.5 - US$1299

  Those customers who own Witango 5.5 professional edition servers will  
  have the option at the time of upgrade to upgrade their server to two  
  (2) Witango 6 Professional edition licenses for US$1499.

  Witango licenses will only be available direct from Witango  
  Technologies and no further discount will apply.


  Your Enquiries
  ---
  A comprehensive outline of new features will be available on release  
  of the beta.  We understand many of you will have questions, please  
  direct them off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We will compile a FAQ and  
  post back to the list.

  It has been a long term goal for Witango Technologies to move Witango  
  to an Open Source product, with simplified and affordable licensing.   
  Witango v6 therefore represents a major milestone for us.  We would  
  also take his opportunity to thank our development team who have  
  worked with consistent enthusiasm and considerable effort in preparing  
  the code for open source.
Sophie Wade have wrote me on 18.10.2006

Daniel

 That is correct.

Regards
Sophie Wade


Witango Technologies Pty Ltd
44 Miller St, North Sydney
NSW, 2060, Australia

phone: +61 2 9460 0500
fax: +61 2 9460 0502
http://www.witango.com 

 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2006 10:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hello from Europe - I have a Order...

 

Sophie, in others words: 

 I'm not able to order the upgrade with a discount for the reseller ?

 Regards

 Daniel

 - Original Message - 

  From: Sophie Wade 

  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 

  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:53 PM

  Subject: RE: Hello from Europe - I have a Order...


  Daniel

  We have not ‘dropped’ the distribution agreements, they have all expired and 
we have chosen not to renew them.  We do not have distributors any more.

  Regards
  Sophie Wade


  Witango Technologies Pty Ltd
  44 Miller St, North Sydney
  NSW, 2060, Australia

  phone: +61 2 9460 0500
  fax: +61 2 9460 0502
  http://www.witango.com 



They have kill the market and the product by himself.

R.I.P

Daniel Richardy





  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony M. Humphreys 
  To: witango-talk@witango.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 5:13 AM
  Subject: Witango-Talk: Non-notable product


  Deleted from Wiki because it's been deemed to have become a non-notable 
product. 
  Ouch.

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Witango-Talk: Non-notable product

2008-10-18 Thread Anthony M. Humphreys
Deleted from Wiki because it's been deemed to have become a non-notable 
product. 
Ouch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witango


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Re: Witango-Talk: error on install - How to fix for Mac OS X, INTEL

2008-10-18 Thread Graham Dale
So lipo doesn't help?  It changes the Apache executable so that it'll  
allow a 32bit module (which Witango is) to run...


On [Oct 18 -2008 ], at 7:15 PM, Jon van der Raadt wrote:


Graham,

Thanks for this excellent summary but it appears as if the Apache 2  
plugin is what is the wrong architecture (perhaps intel when I need  
ppc)...


Jon
On Oct 18, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Graham Dale wrote:


You need to "lipo" Apache, etc. Here are instructions (again) ...


Note that this works for both Server and Client, but the absolute  
addresses given here are for CLIENT. You need to ensure that  you  
are using the right addresses for SERVER.



WitangoServer for Intel Macs requires Apache 2.2+, but Leopard uses  
Apache 2.2.6+ and that version does not support the Witango module,  
which is designed for earlier versions of 2.2. Furthermore, I  
couldn't get earlier 2.2 versions of Apache to run on Leopard.


(Stole some ideas from http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/blog/2007/running-fogbugz-on-leopard 
 and then modified as needed for Witango)


The problem was that I was getting a "module" error, and an  
indication that it needed to be re-worked - apparently for 64- 
bit. ...  this method strips 64-bit-ness from Apache 2.2.6



1] Workaround for 64 bit  ***server note: be sure that httpd is IN / 
usr/sbin - might have a different location ***


cd /usr/sbin

sudo cp httpd httpd-fat<=== (creates httpd backup)


sudo lipo httpd -thin i386 -output httpd

Quote from website above:

"After making a backup of the httpd executable for safety purposes,  
the lipo commands sucks out all of the architectures included in  
the universal binary except the 32-bit Intel one (specified by  
“i386″). Apache can’t run as 64-bit if it doesn’t have a 64- 
bit binary!"


Note from DEG: I presume this would also (??) work for PPC  
machines, but a different code (possibly PPC or ppc) would need to  
be substituted for the i386 in the "lipo" command above.


2] Install

Create the witango user

Then install WitangoServer. Get usual install error (caused by  
Apache in wrong location ... see below)


3] Workaround for non-standard location of Apache in Leopard (/etc/ 
apache2)  *** Fix as needed for server ***


In Terminal -->

	sudo cp /Applications/WitangoServer/5.5/install/Plug-Ins/ 
mod_witango55_apache22.so  /usr/libexec/apache2/ 
mod_witango55_apache22.so



(copies module to the right place for Apache2 to see it)
note, no line break should be in the line above, even if there  
appears to be one after going through email


Create backup of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf

cd /etc/apache2
sudo cp httpd.conf  httpd-back.conf
	cp httpd.conf  /Users//httpd.conf  <=== I prefer  
editing outside of the /etc directory. This is the copy I can fool  
with



Edit httpd.conf, adding THIS edited information instead of the  
provided mod_witango55_apache22.so.httpd (to account for new  
location for modules)


I just added this as the last part of the httpd.conf file

# LOAD WITANGO MODULE
# This loads the Witango 5.5 client for Apache 2.2 to enable
# communication with the Witango Application Server
LoadModule WitangoModule libexec/apache2/mod_witango55_apache22.so
WitangoModule mod_witango55_apache22.so
AddType application/witango-application-file taf tml thtml tcf wws

If you wish, change httpd.conf for location of web pages. In my  
case I just deleted the Library/WebServer directory and aliased in  
my working one, which is on an entirely different partition.


	sudo cp /Users//httpd.conf   /etc/apache2/ 
httpd.conf  <=== Returns the edited copy to /etc/apache2


BTW, copy over old WitangoServer/5.5/configuration files from Tiger  
config for WitangoServer, for quickest switchover.



4] Workaround for starting up WitangoServer due to incomplete  
installer script ---


Witango startup unlikely to work, so I didn't bother with that (I  
am on a development server, so I am not concerned with automatic  
startups) However, we now use a script startup for our servers to  
ensure automatic startups.  Let us know if you need that ...


In Terminal  --->

cd /Applications/WitangoServer/5.5
./witangod -uo

5] If you get an error message for clients.ini

Change permissions (and path to permissions) so that these are wide  
open (because I wasn't sure who the "owner" was for the http  
process - system? wheel? root?) This is NOT the best solution, but  
it was good for checking that there was ANY situation in which I  
could start up. The more experienced among you can tackle that.


Start up Apache webserver using Preferences --> Sharing ---> Web  
sharing. If you had already started it, shut it down, restart.  
Start up WitangoServer as indicated above.  (Note that if this  
start up of the Web sharing process "hangs", it means that you've  
done something wrong with the httpd.conf file - check the console  
application to find out 

Re: Witango-Talk: error on install - How to fix for Mac OS X, INTEL

2008-10-18 Thread Jon van der Raadt

Graham,

Thanks for this excellent summary but it appears as if the Apache 2  
plugin is what is the wrong architecture (perhaps intel when I need  
ppc)...


Jon
On Oct 18, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Graham Dale wrote:


You need to "lipo" Apache, etc. Here are instructions (again) ...


Note that this works for both Server and Client, but the absolute  
addresses given here are for CLIENT. You need to ensure that  you  
are using the right addresses for SERVER.



WitangoServer for Intel Macs requires Apache 2.2+, but Leopard uses  
Apache 2.2.6+ and that version does not support the Witango module,  
which is designed for earlier versions of 2.2. Furthermore, I  
couldn't get earlier 2.2 versions of Apache to run on Leopard.


(Stole some ideas from http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/blog/2007/running-fogbugz-on-leopard 
 and then modified as needed for Witango)


The problem was that I was getting a "module" error, and an  
indication that it needed to be re-worked - apparently for 64- 
bit. ...  this method strips 64-bit-ness from Apache 2.2.6



1] Workaround for 64 bit  ***server note: be sure that httpd is IN / 
usr/sbin - might have a different location ***


cd /usr/sbin

sudo cp httpd httpd-fat<=== (creates httpd backup)


sudo lipo httpd -thin i386 -output httpd

Quote from website above:

"After making a backup of the httpd executable for safety purposes,  
the lipo commands sucks out all of the architectures included in the  
universal binary except the 32-bit Intel one (specified by  
“i386″). Apache can’t run as 64-bit if it doesn’t have a 64- 
bit binary!"


Note from DEG: I presume this would also (??) work for PPC machines,  
but a different code (possibly PPC or ppc) would need to be  
substituted for the i386 in the "lipo" command above.


2] Install

Create the witango user

Then install WitangoServer. Get usual install error (caused by  
Apache in wrong location ... see below)


3] Workaround for non-standard location of Apache in Leopard (/etc/ 
apache2)  *** Fix as needed for server ***


In Terminal -->

	sudo cp /Applications/WitangoServer/5.5/install/Plug-Ins/ 
mod_witango55_apache22.so  /usr/libexec/apache2/ 
mod_witango55_apache22.so



(copies module to the right place for Apache2 to see it)
note, no line break should be in the line above, even if there  
appears to be one after going through email


Create backup of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf

cd /etc/apache2
sudo cp httpd.conf  httpd-back.conf
	cp httpd.conf  /Users//httpd.conf  <=== I prefer  
editing outside of the /etc directory. This is the copy I can fool  
with



Edit httpd.conf, adding THIS edited information instead of the  
provided mod_witango55_apache22.so.httpd (to account for new  
location for modules)


I just added this as the last part of the httpd.conf file

# LOAD WITANGO MODULE
# This loads the Witango 5.5 client for Apache 2.2 to enable
# communication with the Witango Application Server
LoadModule WitangoModule libexec/apache2/mod_witango55_apache22.so
WitangoModule mod_witango55_apache22.so
AddType application/witango-application-file taf tml thtml tcf wws

If you wish, change httpd.conf for location of web pages. In my case  
I just deleted the Library/WebServer directory and aliased in my  
working one, which is on an entirely different partition.


	sudo cp /Users//httpd.conf   /etc/apache2/ 
httpd.conf  <=== Returns the edited copy to /etc/apache2


BTW, copy over old WitangoServer/5.5/configuration files from Tiger  
config for WitangoServer, for quickest switchover.



4] Workaround for starting up WitangoServer due to incomplete  
installer script ---


Witango startup unlikely to work, so I didn't bother with that (I am  
on a development server, so I am not concerned with automatic  
startups) However, we now use a script startup for our servers to  
ensure automatic startups.  Let us know if you need that ...


In Terminal  --->

cd /Applications/WitangoServer/5.5
./witangod -uo

5] If you get an error message for clients.ini

Change permissions (and path to permissions) so that these are wide  
open (because I wasn't sure who the "owner" was for the http process  
- system? wheel? root?) This is NOT the best solution, but it was  
good for checking that there was ANY situation in which I could  
start up. The more experienced among you can tackle that.


Start up Apache webserver using Preferences --> Sharing ---> Web  
sharing. If you had already started it, shut it down, restart. Start  
up WitangoServer as indicated above.  (Note that if this start up of  
the Web sharing process "hangs", it means that you've done something  
wrong with the httpd.conf file - check the console application to  
find out where the problem was.)


This looks complicated, but it took far longer for me to tweak  
around and test at each point get it running. If you follow this  
(AND if I didn't leave s

Re: Witango-Talk: error on install - How to fix for Mac OS X, INTEL

2008-10-18 Thread Graham Dale

You need to "lipo" Apache, etc. Here are instructions (again) ...


Note that this works for both Server and Client, but the absolute  
addresses given here are for CLIENT. You need to ensure that  you are  
using the right addresses for SERVER.



WitangoServer for Intel Macs requires Apache 2.2+, but Leopard uses  
Apache 2.2.6+ and that version does not support the Witango module,  
which is designed for earlier versions of 2.2. Furthermore, I couldn't  
get earlier 2.2 versions of Apache to run on Leopard.


(Stole some ideas from http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/blog/2007/running-fogbugz-on-leopard 
 and then modified as needed for Witango)


The problem was that I was getting a "module" error, and an indication  
that it needed to be re-worked - apparently for 64-bit. ...  this  
method strips 64-bit-ness from Apache 2.2.6



1] Workaround for 64 bit  ***server note: be sure that httpd is IN / 
usr/sbin - might have a different location ***


cd /usr/sbin

sudo cp httpd httpd-fat<=== (creates httpd backup)


sudo lipo httpd -thin i386 -output httpd

Quote from website above:

"After making a backup of the httpd executable for safety purposes,  
the lipo commands sucks out all of the architectures included in the  
universal binary except the 32-bit Intel one (specified by “i386″).  
Apache can’t run as 64-bit if it doesn’t have a 64-bit binary!"


Note from DEG: I presume this would also (??) work for PPC machines,  
but a different code (possibly PPC or ppc) would need to be  
substituted for the i386 in the "lipo" command above.


2] Install

Create the witango user

Then install WitangoServer. Get usual install error (caused by Apache  
in wrong location ... see below)


3] Workaround for non-standard location of Apache in Leopard (/etc/ 
apache2)  *** Fix as needed for server ***


In Terminal -->

	sudo cp /Applications/WitangoServer/5.5/install/Plug-Ins/ 
mod_witango55_apache22.so  /usr/libexec/apache2/ 
mod_witango55_apache22.so



(copies module to the right place for Apache2 to see it)
note, no line break should be in the line above, even if there appears  
to be one after going through email


Create backup of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf

cd /etc/apache2
sudo cp httpd.conf  httpd-back.conf
	cp httpd.conf  /Users//httpd.conf  <=== I prefer  
editing outside of the /etc directory. This is the copy I can fool with



Edit httpd.conf, adding THIS edited information instead of the  
provided mod_witango55_apache22.so.httpd (to account for new location  
for modules)


I just added this as the last part of the httpd.conf file

# LOAD WITANGO MODULE
# This loads the Witango 5.5 client for Apache 2.2 to enable
# communication with the Witango Application Server
LoadModule WitangoModule libexec/apache2/mod_witango55_apache22.so
WitangoModule mod_witango55_apache22.so
AddType application/witango-application-file taf tml thtml tcf wws

If you wish, change httpd.conf for location of web pages. In my case I  
just deleted the Library/WebServer directory and aliased in my working  
one, which is on an entirely different partition.


	sudo cp /Users//httpd.conf   /etc/apache2/httpd.conf   
<=== Returns the edited copy to /etc/apache2


BTW, copy over old WitangoServer/5.5/configuration files from Tiger  
config for WitangoServer, for quickest switchover.



4] Workaround for starting up WitangoServer due to incomplete  
installer script ---


Witango startup unlikely to work, so I didn't bother with that (I am  
on a development server, so I am not concerned with automatic  
startups) However, we now use a script startup for our servers to  
ensure automatic startups.  Let us know if you need that ...


In Terminal  --->

cd /Applications/WitangoServer/5.5
./witangod -uo

5] If you get an error message for clients.ini

Change permissions (and path to permissions) so that these are wide  
open (because I wasn't sure who the "owner" was for the http process -  
system? wheel? root?) This is NOT the best solution, but it was good  
for checking that there was ANY situation in which I could start up.  
The more experienced among you can tackle that.


Start up Apache webserver using Preferences --> Sharing ---> Web  
sharing. If you had already started it, shut it down, restart. Start  
up WitangoServer as indicated above.  (Note that if this start up of  
the Web sharing process "hangs", it means that you've done something  
wrong with the httpd.conf file - check the console application to find  
out where the problem was.)


This looks complicated, but it took far longer for me to tweak around  
and test at each point get it running. If you follow this (AND if I  
didn't leave some critical bit out), it should take you less than 5  
minutes to get the Witango Server running.


and, lastly, be sure to put your JDBC drivers here, if you're running  
JDBC.


Library/Java/Extensions



On [Oct 1

Witango-Talk: error on install

2008-10-18 Thread Jon van der Raadt
Has someone seen this problem?  Is there a fix? Witango 5.509 Apache  
2.2.8 Max OSX Server 10.5.5


10/5/08 5:31:35 PM org.apache.httpd[973] httpd: Syntax error on line  
1459 of /private/etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/libexec/ 
apache2/mod_witango55_apache2.so into server: dlopen(/usr/libexec/ 
apache2/mod_witango55_apache2.so, 10): no suitable image found.  Did  
find:\n\t/usr/libexec/apache2/mod_witango55_apache2.so: mach-o, but  
wrong architecture


Thanks in advance

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