RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change

2002-11-08 Thread Ben Johansen
Ok, I guess I forget sometimes that .COM is a US domain extension.
But, just wanted to point out that lots for international companies
invest in a .COM, I think the .COM as become one of a generic
international extensions.

Example: the folks a With setup Witango.com instead of Witango.au

Frankly, in most cases the extension is irrelevant, like in links or
emails
Then it is just a click as long as someone gets there, they don't care.

Interesting analysis :-)


Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm 
Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:51 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change

Hmmm, I wonder if the folks at Tango Airlines are looking for a web
domain
that they can't have? I wonder how much it might be worth to them? If
you
did decide to negotiate with them, I'd suggest cash rather than free
passes
or whatever, you never know how long they will be around.

Thanks Dave for your comments.

To provide the list with a quick summary of the responses that I've
received
up to this point, there were 3 responses from readers based outside of
the
U.S. that all agreed that not having a .com extension isn't quite the
big
deal. However all of the responses from readers that were based in the
States said that a .com does have an impact on their perception of the
business. Interesting but certainly not highly accurate or scientific
research.

Thanks to all that responded,

Steve Smith

Oakbridge Information Solutions
Office: (519) 624-4388
GTA:(416) 606-3885
Fax:(519) 624-3353
Cell:   (416) 606-3885
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.oakbridge.ca


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com]On Behalf Of David Shelley
> Sent: November 8, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change
>
>
> Steve,
>
> We also have a new .ca domain name, tango.ca, and have recieved
> no negative
> feedback from clients in the US or elsewhere.
>
> We have a different problem, we're getting 1000's of hits every day
from
> people looking for Tango Airlines.
>
> Dave Shelley
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com]On Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:24 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change
>
>
> I have recently changed the name of my business (the old name had some
> problems associated with it) and I'm finally getting around to
changing my
> subscriptions. Nothing else has changed, just the name of the company
and
> the domain name.
>
> Unfortunately the oakbridge.com domain was not available so I
> took the .ca.
> I am interested in hearing from the non-Canadians (off the list
> please) with
> regards to their impression of seeing a company with something
> other than a
> com domain. I'm looking for both negative and positive feedback.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Smith
>
> Oakbridge Information Solutions
> Office: (519) 624-4388
> GTA:(416) 606-3885
> Fax:(519) 624-3353
> Cell:   (416) 606-3885
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web:http://www.oakbridge.ca
>
>
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RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change

2002-11-08 Thread Steve Smith
Hmmm, I wonder if the folks at Tango Airlines are looking for a web domain
that they can't have? I wonder how much it might be worth to them? If you
did decide to negotiate with them, I'd suggest cash rather than free passes
or whatever, you never know how long they will be around.

Thanks Dave for your comments.

To provide the list with a quick summary of the responses that I've received
up to this point, there were 3 responses from readers based outside of the
U.S. that all agreed that not having a .com extension isn't quite the big
deal. However all of the responses from readers that were based in the
States said that a .com does have an impact on their perception of the
business. Interesting but certainly not highly accurate or scientific
research.

Thanks to all that responded,

Steve Smith

Oakbridge Information Solutions
Office: (519) 624-4388
GTA:(416) 606-3885
Fax:(519) 624-3353
Cell:   (416) 606-3885
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.oakbridge.ca


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com]On Behalf Of David Shelley
> Sent: November 8, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change
>
>
> Steve,
>
> We also have a new .ca domain name, tango.ca, and have recieved
> no negative
> feedback from clients in the US or elsewhere.
>
> We have a different problem, we're getting 1000's of hits every day from
> people looking for Tango Airlines.
>
> Dave Shelley
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com]On Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:24 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change
>
>
> I have recently changed the name of my business (the old name had some
> problems associated with it) and I'm finally getting around to changing my
> subscriptions. Nothing else has changed, just the name of the company and
> the domain name.
>
> Unfortunately the oakbridge.com domain was not available so I
> took the .ca.
> I am interested in hearing from the non-Canadians (off the list
> please) with
> regards to their impression of seeing a company with something
> other than a
> com domain. I'm looking for both negative and positive feedback.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Smith
>
> Oakbridge Information Solutions
> Office: (519) 624-4388
> GTA:(416) 606-3885
> Fax:(519) 624-3353
> Cell:   (416) 606-3885
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web:http://www.oakbridge.ca
>
>
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RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change

2002-11-08 Thread David Shelley
Steve,

We also have a new .ca domain name, tango.ca, and have recieved no negative
feedback from clients in the US or elsewhere.

We have a different problem, we're getting 1000's of hits every day from
people looking for Tango Airlines.

Dave Shelley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com]On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:24 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change


I have recently changed the name of my business (the old name had some
problems associated with it) and I'm finally getting around to changing my
subscriptions. Nothing else has changed, just the name of the company and
the domain name.

Unfortunately the oakbridge.com domain was not available so I took the .ca.
I am interested in hearing from the non-Canadians (off the list please) with
regards to their impression of seeing a company with something other than a
com domain. I'm looking for both negative and positive feedback.

Thanks,

Steve Smith

Oakbridge Information Solutions
Office: (519) 624-4388
GTA:(416) 606-3885
Fax:(519) 624-3353
Cell:   (416) 606-3885
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.oakbridge.ca



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RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change

2002-11-07 Thread Ben Johansen
Hi,

I, Agree the alternate extensions are becoming common and accepted.

I still feel that having a .com address still has much value
I think oakbridgesolutions.com is good and I don't think it is to long.

What about oakbridgeinfo.com?

I have done this myself, I look at a marketing flyer that has web
address of .net and I went to the browser and typed .com. Habits dye
hard ;-)
This could be devastating if the company that own the .com is a
competitor of yours

Just more of my opinions :-b

Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm 
Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:43 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change

I did perform the check, oakbridge.com was taken, oakbridge.ca was
available
so I grabbed it. I looked at a number of potential business names and
every
one of them either had an existing site with the .com extension in use
or it
was owned by a cyber-squatter.

The .ca extension has become accepted for business use in Canada. We
have
amazon.ca, yahoo.ca, apple.ca, etc. which are all respected by Canadians
but
I was curious to see how the rest of the world looked at a domain that
used
a .ca. I look at a domain that has a .uk or a .au top-level domain and I
don't bat an eye unless it is for a company that I would expect would be
in
the U.S.

One response that I received off-line had the comment that "Unless you
are a
truly global operation, or a US operation, a .com domain suggests to me
a
sharp operator preoccupied with the unseemly grab for dot com real
estate."
Well I'm not a 'truly global' operation, nor am I a U.S. operation
although
I do business in the States and I do want to appeal to potential
customers
in the States.

I have considered taking oakbridgesolutions.com as a second domain and
combining the two. Many Canadian companies have done this although they
typically have both the .com and .ca for the same domain name. One other
comment that I received said that it really doesn't matter what
top-level
domain is used, it is the domain itself that is what people will look
at.
Personally I think that there is some truth to this especially as the
number
of available .com names dries up (it's pretty poor now) and the
acceptance
level of the new top-level domains grows.

The question will become which is going to appeal to the target market,
a
long-winded or unrecognizable domain name with a .com extension or a
easily
identifyable domain name with a dot anything else?

Thanks for your comments Ben,

Steve Smith

Oakbridge Information Solutions
Office: (519) 624-4388
GTA:(416) 606-3885
Fax:(519) 624-3353
Cell:   (416) 606-3885
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.oakbridge.ca


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com]On Behalf Of Ben Johansen
> Sent: November 7, 2002 1:36 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Please don't take this wrong, but why didn't you check to see if your
> proposed name was available in .com prior to changing it?
>
> The .com is just ingrained in peoples mind as the main domain
extension
> for the company's main site. In IE Browser you can just type the name
a
> then press ctrl-enter and it will fill in the http:// and .com around
it
> for you.
>
> Now the other extensions are fine, it is just going to take more
> effort/advertising on your part to get people come to the .ca
>
> Hey this is just my opinion ;-)
>
> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
> Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm
> Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:24 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change
>
> I have recently changed the name of my business (the old name had some
> problems associated with it) and I'm finally getting around to
changing
> my
> subscriptions. Nothing else has changed, just the name of the company
> and
> the domain name.
>
> Unfortunately the oakbridge.com domain was not available so I took the
> .ca.
> I am interested in hearing from the non-Canadians (off the list
please)
> with
> regards to their impression of seeing a company with something other
> than a
> .com domain. I'm looking for both negative and positive feedback.

RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change

2002-11-07 Thread Steve Smith
I did perform the check, oakbridge.com was taken, oakbridge.ca was available
so I grabbed it. I looked at a number of potential business names and every
one of them either had an existing site with the .com extension in use or it
was owned by a cyber-squatter.

The .ca extension has become accepted for business use in Canada. We have
amazon.ca, yahoo.ca, apple.ca, etc. which are all respected by Canadians but
I was curious to see how the rest of the world looked at a domain that used
a .ca. I look at a domain that has a .uk or a .au top-level domain and I
don't bat an eye unless it is for a company that I would expect would be in
the U.S.

One response that I received off-line had the comment that "Unless you are a
truly global operation, or a US operation, a .com domain suggests to me a
sharp operator preoccupied with the unseemly grab for dot com real estate."
Well I'm not a 'truly global' operation, nor am I a U.S. operation although
I do business in the States and I do want to appeal to potential customers
in the States.

I have considered taking oakbridgesolutions.com as a second domain and
combining the two. Many Canadian companies have done this although they
typically have both the .com and .ca for the same domain name. One other
comment that I received said that it really doesn't matter what top-level
domain is used, it is the domain itself that is what people will look at.
Personally I think that there is some truth to this especially as the number
of available .com names dries up (it's pretty poor now) and the acceptance
level of the new top-level domains grows.

The question will become which is going to appeal to the target market, a
long-winded or unrecognizable domain name with a .com extension or a easily
identifyable domain name with a dot anything else?

Thanks for your comments Ben,

Steve Smith

Oakbridge Information Solutions
Office: (519) 624-4388
GTA:(416) 606-3885
Fax:(519) 624-3353
Cell:   (416) 606-3885
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.oakbridge.ca


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com]On Behalf Of Ben Johansen
> Sent: November 7, 2002 1:36 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Please don't take this wrong, but why didn't you check to see if your
> proposed name was available in .com prior to changing it?
>
> The .com is just ingrained in peoples mind as the main domain extension
> for the company's main site. In IE Browser you can just type the name a
> then press ctrl-enter and it will fill in the http:// and .com around it
> for you.
>
> Now the other extensions are fine, it is just going to take more
> effort/advertising on your part to get people come to the .ca
>
> Hey this is just my opinion ;-)
>
> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
> Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm
> Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:24 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change
>
> I have recently changed the name of my business (the old name had some
> problems associated with it) and I'm finally getting around to changing
> my
> subscriptions. Nothing else has changed, just the name of the company
> and
> the domain name.
>
> Unfortunately the oakbridge.com domain was not available so I took the
> .ca.
> I am interested in hearing from the non-Canadians (off the list please)
> with
> regards to their impression of seeing a company with something other
> than a
> .com domain. I'm looking for both negative and positive feedback.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Smith
>
> Oakbridge Information Solutions
> Office: (519) 624-4388
> GTA:(416) 606-3885
> Fax:(519) 624-3353
> Cell:   (416) 606-3885
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web:http://www.oakbridge.ca
>
>
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RE: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change

2002-11-07 Thread Ben Johansen
Hi,

Please don't take this wrong, but why didn't you check to see if your
proposed name was available in .com prior to changing it?

The .com is just ingrained in peoples mind as the main domain extension
for the company's main site. In IE Browser you can just type the name a
then press ctrl-enter and it will fill in the http:// and .com around it
for you.

Now the other extensions are fine, it is just going to take more
effort/advertising on your part to get people come to the .ca

Hey this is just my opinion ;-)

Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm 
Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:owner-witango-talk@;witango.com] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:24 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: Witango-Talk: OT - Business Name Change

I have recently changed the name of my business (the old name had some
problems associated with it) and I'm finally getting around to changing
my
subscriptions. Nothing else has changed, just the name of the company
and
the domain name.

Unfortunately the oakbridge.com domain was not available so I took the
.ca.
I am interested in hearing from the non-Canadians (off the list please)
with
regards to their impression of seeing a company with something other
than a
.com domain. I'm looking for both negative and positive feedback.

Thanks,

Steve Smith

Oakbridge Information Solutions
Office: (519) 624-4388
GTA:(416) 606-3885
Fax:(519) 624-3353
Cell:   (416) 606-3885
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.oakbridge.ca



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