RE: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Ted Wolfley 
Window Server 2003 Web Edition Service Pack 2

Pentium 4   2.79 GHz, 1.98GB of RAM

 

IIS V6.0

 

Ted

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:08 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

Due to my work at eventpix, I have spent 100s of hours on upload work,
and research and coding. Witango doesn't handle the upload. The
webserver handles the upload from the form, and when the upload is
complete, the webserver hands the file/data in a wrapper over to
witango. So the witango server doesn't even see the uploaded file, until
the upload is complete. So if you are seeing a slow down, it is your
webserver that is slowing things down.

 

What web server are you using, IIS? And which version?

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:





Using the witango file action to upload a 10 mg file seems to take a lot
of witango resources and slows down displaying of other witango pages on
the server.  Looking for a one-step work around.

 

Considering having a webpage to collect file info and have the user use
an ftp client to upload the file, a two step process.

 

Ted

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:39 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

do you mean, witango sends it to ftp server, before saving it on YOUR
server first?

 

If that is what you mean, its not possible, because of the way witango
works with your webserver. The file is completely transferred to the
webserver before being handed over to witango.

 

We have written special upload handlers, to allow progress bar
uploading, and throttling, and other cool features. We do this by
handling the upload byte by byte, this is NOT possible in witango. It is
also not possible in PHP. It is possible with some very low level .net
coding, and it is also possible by creating a CGI script, like in perl
or something.

 

If you submit your upload to a perl cgi, for example, you could write it
to accept data in memory and at the same time connect and send to an FTP
server. This would be very troublesome, and I wouldn't recommend it,
unless you were sure of 100% uptime and great bandwidth up to the ftp
server from the witango server. You would basically be holding/caching
the http upload to cgi in memory as you pull from the memory to the ftp
server.

 

I would think you are better off, investing in larger more reliable
network storage on your server side, accept the entire upload, and then
ftp up to wherever and delete.

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:






User submits file thru the witango webpage and witango ftp the file to
another server without writing to the ftp server first.

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page, or
the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be different
from the witango server?

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:







Hi,

 

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the
local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can
successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with the
external action but witango can't find the file on my workstation.  I
have found php pages on the web that I may have to use.

 

Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

 

Ted Wolfley

Lead Internet and Database Programmer

The Ogden Group of Rochester

phone: 585.321.1060 x23

fax: 585.321.0043

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

 

http://www.ogdengroup.com  <http://www.ogdengroup.com/> 

 


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Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Robert Garcia 
Due to my work at eventpix, I have spent 100s of hours on upload work,  
and research and coding. Witango doesn't handle the upload. The  
webserver handles the upload from the form, and when the upload is  
complete, the webserver hands the file/data in a wrapper over to  
witango. So the witango server doesn't even see the uploaded file,  
until the upload is complete. So if you are seeing a slow down, it is  
your webserver that is slowing things down.


What web server are you using, IIS? And which version?

--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:

Using the witango file action to upload a 10 mg file seems to take a  
lot of witango resources and slows down displaying of other witango  
pages on the server.  Looking for a one-step work around.


Considering having a webpage to collect file info and have the user  
use an ftp client to upload the file, a two step process.


Ted

From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:39 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

do you mean, witango sends it to ftp server, before saving it on  
YOUR server first?


If that is what you mean, its not possible, because of the way  
witango works with your webserver. The file is completely  
transferred to the webserver before being handed over to witango.


We have written special upload handlers, to allow progress bar  
uploading, and throttling, and other cool features. We do this by  
handling the upload byte by byte, this is NOT possible in witango.  
It is also not possible in PHP. It is possible with some very low  
level .net coding, and it is also possible by creating a CGI script,  
like in perl or something.


If you submit your upload to a perl cgi, for example, you could  
write it to accept data in memory and at the same time connect and  
send to an FTP server. This would be very troublesome, and I  
wouldn't recommend it, unless you were sure of 100% uptime and great  
bandwidth up to the ftp server from the witango server. You would  
basically be holding/caching the http upload to cgi in memory as you  
pull from the memory to the ftp server.


I would think you are better off, investing in larger more reliable  
network storage on your server side, accept the entire upload, and  
then ftp up to wherever and delete.


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:


User submits file thru the witango webpage and witango ftp the file  
to another server without writing to the ftp server first.


From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page,  
or the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be  
different from the witango server?


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:



Hi,

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from  
the local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I  
can successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with  
the external action but witango can’t find the file on my  
workstation.  I have found php pages on the web that I may have to  
use.


Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

Ted Wolfley
Lead Internet and Database Programmer
The Ogden Group of Rochester
phone: 585.321.1060 x23
fax: 585.321.0043
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.ogdengroup.com


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RE: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Ted Wolfley 
Using the witango file action to upload a 10 mg file seems to take a lot
of witango resources and slows down displaying of other witango pages on
the server.  Looking for a one-step work around.

 

Considering having a webpage to collect file info and have the user use
an ftp client to upload the file, a two step process.

 

Ted

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:39 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

do you mean, witango sends it to ftp server, before saving it on YOUR
server first?

 

If that is what you mean, its not possible, because of the way witango
works with your webserver. The file is completely transferred to the
webserver before being handed over to witango.

 

We have written special upload handlers, to allow progress bar
uploading, and throttling, and other cool features. We do this by
handling the upload byte by byte, this is NOT possible in witango. It is
also not possible in PHP. It is possible with some very low level .net
coding, and it is also possible by creating a CGI script, like in perl
or something.

 

If you submit your upload to a perl cgi, for example, you could write it
to accept data in memory and at the same time connect and send to an FTP
server. This would be very troublesome, and I wouldn't recommend it,
unless you were sure of 100% uptime and great bandwidth up to the ftp
server from the witango server. You would basically be holding/caching
the http upload to cgi in memory as you pull from the memory to the ftp
server.

 

I would think you are better off, investing in larger more reliable
network storage on your server side, accept the entire upload, and then
ftp up to wherever and delete.

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:





User submits file thru the witango webpage and witango ftp the file to
another server without writing to the ftp server first.

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page, or
the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be different
from the witango server?

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:






Hi,

 

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the
local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can
successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with the
external action but witango can't find the file on my workstation.  I
have found php pages on the web that I may have to use.

 

Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

 

Ted Wolfley

Lead Internet and Database Programmer

The Ogden Group of Rochester

phone: 585.321.1060 x23

fax: 585.321.0043

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

 

http://www.ogdengroup.com  <http://www.ogdengroup.com/> 

 


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Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Robert Garcia 
do you mean, witango sends it to ftp server, before saving it on YOUR  
server first?


If that is what you mean, its not possible, because of the way witango  
works with your webserver. The file is completely transferred to the  
webserver before being handed over to witango.


We have written special upload handlers, to allow progress bar  
uploading, and throttling, and other cool features. We do this by  
handling the upload byte by byte, this is NOT possible in witango. It  
is also not possible in PHP. It is possible with some very low  
level .net coding, and it is also possible by creating a CGI script,  
like in perl or something.


If you submit your upload to a perl cgi, for example, you could write  
it to accept data in memory and at the same time connect and send to  
an FTP server. This would be very troublesome, and I wouldn't  
recommend it, unless you were sure of 100% uptime and great bandwidth  
up to the ftp server from the witango server. You would basically be  
holding/caching the http upload to cgi in memory as you pull from the  
memory to the ftp server.


I would think you are better off, investing in larger more reliable  
network storage on your server side, accept the entire upload, and  
then ftp up to wherever and delete.


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:

User submits file thru the witango webpage and witango ftp the file  
to another server without writing to the ftp server first.


From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page,  
or the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be  
different from the witango server?


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:


Hi,

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from  
the local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I  
can successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with  
the external action but witango can’t find the file on my  
workstation.  I have found php pages on the web that I may have to  
use.


Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

Ted Wolfley
Lead Internet and Database Programmer
The Ogden Group of Rochester
phone: 585.321.1060 x23
fax: 585.321.0043
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.ogdengroup.com


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RE: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Ted Wolfley 
User submits file thru the witango webpage and witango ftp the file to
another server without writing to the ftp server first.

 



From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page, or
the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be different
from the witango server?

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

 

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:





Hi,

 

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the
local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can
successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with the
external action but witango can't find the file on my workstation.  I
have found php pages on the web that I may have to use.

 

Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

 

Ted Wolfley

Lead Internet and Database Programmer

The Ogden Group of Rochester

phone: 585.321.1060 x23

fax: 585.321.0043

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

 

http://www.ogdengroup.com  <http://www.ogdengroup.com/> 

 


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Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Robert Garcia 
Do you mean, the local machine, as in the user hitting the web page,  
or the local machine, as in the web server machine, which may be  
different from the witango server?


--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:


Hi,

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from  
the local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I  
can successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with  
the external action but witango can’t find the file on my  
workstation.  I have found php pages on the web that I may have to  
use.


Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

Ted Wolfley
Lead Internet and Database Programmer
The Ogden Group of Rochester
phone: 585.321.1060 x23
fax: 585.321.0043
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.ogdengroup.com


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RE: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Scott Cadillac 
Hi Ted,

Unless you're using a custom or 3rd party webpage loaded applet of some kind, a 
server-side application cannot pickup files from a user's workstation and 
transfer them somewhere that is not the same server. It's a security thing, eh.

But, you could use a PHP or ASP.NET app from your server to do what your 
witango server is doing now. Either one would be more memory and resource 
efficient than how witango handles uploads and external posts of large files. 

Good luck.

Scott,



On Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:45pm, Ted Wolfley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> We are also uploading the files now but the files are getting too big 
> and  the upload ties up the witango server..
> 
> 
> 
> Ted
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Driscoll, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:24 PM 
> To: witango-talk@witango.com 
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form
> 
> 
> 
> We do this 
> But we actually upload the file to the server then use the external 
> command using ftp text file to upload the file to the site
> 
> Kevin
> -- 
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Wolfley 
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Sent: Wed Feb 13 12:32:18 2008 
> Subject: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the 
> local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can 
> successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with the 
> external action but witango can't find the file on my workstation.  I 
> have found php pages on the web that I may have to use.
> 
> 
> 
> Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload. 
> 
> 
> 
> Ted Wolfley
> 
> Lead Internet and Database Programmer
> 
> The Ogden Group of Rochester
> 
> phone: 585.321.1060 x23 
> 
> fax: 585.321.0043
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.ogdengroup.com  <http://www.ogdengroup.com/> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Beverly Voth 
On 2/13/08 12:32 PM, "Ted Wolfley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in whole or in
part:

> Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the local
> machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can successfully ftp
> from the witango server to the ftp site with the external action but witango
> can¹t find the file on my workstation. I have found php pages on the web that
> I may have to use.
>  
> Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

It may depend on the browser. We have a solution that requires the user to
enter the NAME of the file as well as select it for upload. And that's only
certain browsers, oddly enough! I have an additional field for the name.

I tell them to find the file on their hard drive, copy the name (added bonus
they know where it's located for the next "locate"). Then they go to the
website, paste the name in and click browse to find it.

FORM:



Text File:


 or 


Downloads File: 


  (for browser compatability): enter the NAME
of the Download document: 


Password:

 


In the TAF:

file: <@WEBROOT><@APPFILEPATH>downloads\<@ARG LinkDocName>
data to write: <@ARG linkDoc>

Don't ask me to explain further, but it's what we had to do

:)

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RE: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Ted Wolfley 
We are also uploading the files now but the files are getting too big
and  the upload ties up the witango server..

 

Ted

 



From: Driscoll, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:24 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

 

We do this
But we actually upload the file to the server then use the external
command using ftp text file to upload the file to the site

Kevin
--
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld


-Original Message-
From: Ted Wolfley
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Sent: Wed Feb 13 12:32:18 2008
Subject: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

Hi,



Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the
local machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can
successfully ftp from the witango server to the ftp site with the
external action but witango can't find the file on my workstation.  I
have found php pages on the web that I may have to use.



Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.



Ted Wolfley

Lead Internet and Database Programmer

The Ogden Group of Rochester

phone: 585.321.1060 x23

fax: 585.321.0043

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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Re: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

2008-02-13 Thread Driscoll, Kevin 
We do this
But we actually upload the file to the server then use the external command 
using ftp text file to upload the file to the site

Kevin
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-Original Message-
From: Ted Wolfley
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Sent: Wed Feb 13 12:32:18 2008
Subject: Witango-Talk: witango ftp upload form

Hi,

 

Has anyone created or found a way to use witango to ftp a file from the local 
machine and not the server that witango is setting on?  I can successfully ftp 
from the witango server to the ftp site with the external action but witango 
can't find the file on my workstation.  I have found php pages on the web that 
I may have to use.

 

Of course, I could wait for Witango 6 with its built-in ftp upload.

 

Ted Wolfley

Lead Internet and Database Programmer

The Ogden Group of Rochester

phone: 585.321.1060 x23

fax: 585.321.0043

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

 

http://www.ogdengroup.com   

 



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