Re: [WiX-users] Some STUPID Limitations in WiX
Justin, Thank you for your advice. I'll improve my attitude towards WiX and Windows Installer. BTW, you didn't answer my question. How to break those limitations ? Thanks, DongFang -Original Message- From: Justin Rockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:22 PM To: Dong Fang Xie (Excell Data Corporation); wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: Some STUPID Limitations in WiX Hey, Dong, thanks for the laugh! :) While we appreciate feedback on the WiX toolset, it's typically not a good idea to call it STUPID and then in the same sentence ask for help. You're biting the hand that feeds you. Plus if you think it's stupid then why would you trust the advice from the people that created it? At any rate, good luck with your "powerful installer." Since we don't really know how to build those (smile), you may want to take any advice we give with a grain of salt. Justin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dong Fang Xie (Excell Data Corporation) Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:04 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Some STUPID Limitations in WiX I'm working on a small and simple installer using WiX toolset (the latest stable version 2.0.3719.0). To my surprise, it is really very very tough !! It almost drove me crazy. I really don't understand why there are so many stupid limitations: LIMIT 1: Since FileSearch, DirectorySearch, RegistrySearch are WiX elements, Why there is no ProcessSearch or TaskSearch ?!I need to know whether a specific process is running before installation/uninstallation. LIMIT 2: If all files in a msi package are from different small projects, I can build a module for each small project, and create a main wxs file to merge all modules. It should be a good idea, but how can I use the files from different modules ? There is no way for now. I must control all custom actions in the main wxs file, and some custom actions need a FileKey to a file in a module. I cannot distribute all cutom actions in different modules, if I do so, how can I control the InstallSequence ? Using stupid numbers? LIMIT 3: I defined a dialog which must be shown not only during installation but also during uninstallation. But how to make it shown during uninstallation ? the UILevel will be set to basic UI or no UI automatically by msiexec.exe. How can I beg Windows NOT do that for me? I can use command "msiexec /qf /x msifile", but how can I know my customer can do that each time they want to uninstall the msi file ? Is there any way I can define UILevel of uninstallation inside msi file ? WiX is a very good toolset, but far from perfect ! I bet the developers of WiX toolset have never built a powerful installer for customers. I will never know the limit if I wasn't assigned the job to build a small and simple installer. I noticed that there are some extensions in WiX 3.0, but it is still far from enough. For LIMIT 1, I've built my own dll to detect running processes. But how to break LIMIT 2 and LIMIT 3 ? Can you guys give me some ideas ? Thanks in advance - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] Some STUPID Limitations in WiX
I'm working on a small and simple installer using WiX toolset (the latest stable version 2.0.3719.0). To my surprise, it is really very very tough !! It almost drove me crazy. I really don't understand why there are so many stupid limitations: LIMIT 1: Since FileSearch, DirectorySearch, RegistrySearch are WiX elements, Why there is no ProcessSearch or TaskSearch ?!I need to know whether a specific process is running before installation/uninstallation. LIMIT 2: If all files in a msi package are from different small projects, I can build a module for each small project, and create a main wxs file to merge all modules. It should be a good idea, but how can I use the files from different modules ? There is no way for now. I must control all custom actions in the main wxs file, and some custom actions need a FileKey to a file in a module. I cannot distribute all cutom actions in different modules, if I do so, how can I control the InstallSequence ? Using stupid numbers? LIMIT 3: I defined a dialog which must be shown not only during installation but also during uninstallation. But how to make it shown during uninstallation ? the UILevel will be set to basic UI or no UI automatically by msiexec.exe. How can I beg Windows NOT do that for me? I can use command "msiexec /qf /x msifile", but how can I know my customer can do that each time they want to uninstall the msi file ? Is there any way I can define UILevel of uninstallation inside msi file ? WiX is a very good toolset, but far from perfect ! I bet the developers of WiX toolset have never built a powerful installer for customers. I will never know the limit if I wasn't assigned the job to build a small and simple installer. I noticed that there are some extensions in WiX 3.0, but it is still far from enough. For LIMIT 1, I've built my own dll to detect running processes. But how to break LIMIT 2 and LIMIT 3 ? Can you guys give me some ideas ? Thanks in advance - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] How to detect a running process which is not part of the installing files ???
I checked CloseApps.cpp in WiX 3, it can not provide any help at all. The process that I want the user to terminate is different, it is the old version installed in a different folder. It is a COM server, and it must be terminated and unregistered, or the new version (will be installed to another folder) will never take effect. Why WiX has no such simple (and vital) function built in ? Can anybody provide any help ? Thanks in advance - From: Rob Mensching Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:36 PM To: Prasanta Ghosal; Windows Installer Xml Virtual Team Subject: RE: How to identify if a process is running using Wix Look at the CloseApps custom action. From: Prasanta Ghosal Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:34 To: Windows Installer Xml Virtual Team Subject: How to identify if a process is running using Wix Hello, We are trying to come up with an installer using wix. We need to detect if a specific process is running in the system or not. Could anyone please help us about how to detect if a process is running or not in the system from the wix installer? Thanks - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
