Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration
It seems that I found another thing which has the same problem: DISM API (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh824790.aspx). It also requires elevated permissions (even to get info about installed windows features). Best Regards, Igor -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:11 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration 1. Today, yes. Fixing the engine to help would be interesting. Funny thing is that it is only IIS that seems to have this problem. 2. Not going to help fix the Burn engine with managed code, no. smile/ On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Henning Krause m...@henningkrause.euwrote: Hi Rob, You'd have to spin of a separate process that can elevate. We've talked about adding somethig like this to Burn for IIS because they made a huge API blunder and required read operations to be elevated. sigh/ But with an additional elevated process the use would have to go through the elevation process two times - once for the detection and once for the installation, or am I wrong? Of course, that thing hasn't been implemented yet. Maybe you'd like to contribute it? I only do managed development - so, I think this would be a problem, wouldn't it? Kind regards, Henning -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- virtually, Rob Mensching http://RobMensching.com LLC - - Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users SDL PLC confidential, all rights reserved. If you are not the intended recipient of this mail SDL requests and requires that you delete it without acting upon or copying any of its contents, and we further request that you advise us. SDL PLC is a public limited company registered in England and Wales. Registered number: 02675207. Registered address: Globe House, Clivemont Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire SL6 7DY, UK. -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration
Hi, using PowerShell you won't need admin permissions to enumerate this. In my installer I start a new process which hosts a PowerShell runspace. The new process is required because the Burn bootstrapper does not run as X64 process. However, this is required for the ServerManager snapin. The process just enumerates the features and writes them to stdout. This response is then collected by the bootstrapper. Kind regards, Henning Krause -Original Message- From: Igor Paniushkin [mailto:ipaniush...@sdl.com] Sent: Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2012 13:27 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration It seems that I found another thing which has the same problem: DISM API (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en- us/library/windows/desktop/hh824790.aspx). It also requires elevated permissions (even to get info about installed windows features). Best Regards, Igor -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:11 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration 1. Today, yes. Fixing the engine to help would be interesting. Funny thing is that it is only IIS that seems to have this problem. 2. Not going to help fix the Burn engine with managed code, no. smile/ On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Henning Krause m...@henningkrause.euwrote: Hi Rob, You'd have to spin of a separate process that can elevate. We've talked about adding somethig like this to Burn for IIS because they made a huge API blunder and required read operations to be elevated. sigh/ But with an additional elevated process the use would have to go through the elevation process two times - once for the detection and once for the installation, or am I wrong? Of course, that thing hasn't been implemented yet. Maybe you'd like to contribute it? I only do managed development - so, I think this would be a problem, wouldn't it? Kind regards, Henning -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- virtually, Rob Mensching http://RobMensching.com LLC - - Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users SDL PLC confidential, all rights reserved. If you are not the intended recipient of this mail SDL requests and requires that you delete it without acting upon or copying any of its contents, and we further request that you advise us. SDL PLC is a public limited company registered in England and Wales. Registered number: 02675207. Registered address: Globe House, Clivemont Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire SL6 7DY, UK. -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration
There is no guarantee that PowerShell is installed. For example on Windows Server 2012 Core it is not a default feature. Best Regards, Igor -Original Message- From: Henning Krause [mailto:m...@henningkrause.eu] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:52 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration Hi, using PowerShell you won't need admin permissions to enumerate this. In my installer I start a new process which hosts a PowerShell runspace. The new process is required because the Burn bootstrapper does not run as X64 process. However, this is required for the ServerManager snapin. The process just enumerates the features and writes them to stdout. This response is then collected by the bootstrapper. Kind regards, Henning Krause -Original Message- From: Igor Paniushkin [mailto:ipaniush...@sdl.com] Sent: Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2012 13:27 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration It seems that I found another thing which has the same problem: DISM API (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en- us/library/windows/desktop/hh824790.aspx). It also requires elevated permissions (even to get info about installed windows features). Best Regards, Igor -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:11 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration 1. Today, yes. Fixing the engine to help would be interesting. Funny thing is that it is only IIS that seems to have this problem. 2. Not going to help fix the Burn engine with managed code, no. smile/ On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Henning Krause m...@henningkrause.euwrote: Hi Rob, You'd have to spin of a separate process that can elevate. We've talked about adding somethig like this to Burn for IIS because they made a huge API blunder and required read operations to be elevated. sigh/ But with an additional elevated process the use would have to go through the elevation process two times - once for the detection and once for the installation, or am I wrong? Of course, that thing hasn't been implemented yet. Maybe you'd like to contribute it? I only do managed development - so, I think this would be a problem, wouldn't it? Kind regards, Henning -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- virtually, Rob Mensching http://RobMensching.com LLC -- --- - Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users SDL PLC confidential, all rights reserved. If you are not the intended recipient of this mail SDL requests and requires that you delete it without acting upon or copying any of its contents, and we further request that you advise us. SDL PLC is a public limited company registered in England and Wales. Registered number: 02675207. Registered address: Globe House, Clivemont Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire SL6 7DY, UK. -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - - Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net
[WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration
Hi, I'm working on an installer which creates a virtual directory in IIS. The installer has a managed bootstrapper application (Burn) and lets the user select the website to which install the virtual application to. For the selection process, I enumerate all installed websites on the local IIS using the Managed API for IIS. However, it seems that even reading the current IIS configuration required elevation. So it would seem the entire Bootstrapper has to be elevated, which has some smell IMHO. What is the best practice in this scenario? Kind regards, Henning Krause -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration
You'd have to spin of a separate process that can elevate. We've talked about adding somethig like this to Burn for IIS because they made a huge API blunder and required read operations to be elevated. sigh/ Of course, that thing hasn't been implemented yet. Maybe you'd like to contribute it? On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Henning Krause m...@henningkrause.euwrote: Hi, I'm working on an installer which creates a virtual directory in IIS. The installer has a managed bootstrapper application (Burn) and lets the user select the website to which install the virtual application to. For the selection process, I enumerate all installed websites on the local IIS using the Managed API for IIS. However, it seems that even reading the current IIS configuration required elevation. So it would seem the entire Bootstrapper has to be elevated, which has some smell IMHO. What is the best practice in this scenario? Kind regards, Henning Krause -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- virtually, Rob Mensching http://RobMensching.com LLC -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration
Hi Rob, You'd have to spin of a separate process that can elevate. We've talked about adding somethig like this to Burn for IIS because they made a huge API blunder and required read operations to be elevated. sigh/ But with an additional elevated process the use would have to go through the elevation process two times - once for the detection and once for the installation, or am I wrong? Of course, that thing hasn't been implemented yet. Maybe you'd like to contribute it? I only do managed development - so, I think this would be a problem, wouldn't it? Kind regards, Henning -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Burn mangaged installer and IIS Administration
1. Today, yes. Fixing the engine to help would be interesting. Funny thing is that it is only IIS that seems to have this problem. 2. Not going to help fix the Burn engine with managed code, no. smile/ On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Henning Krause m...@henningkrause.euwrote: Hi Rob, You'd have to spin of a separate process that can elevate. We've talked about adding somethig like this to Burn for IIS because they made a huge API blunder and required read operations to be elevated. sigh/ But with an additional elevated process the use would have to go through the elevation process two times - once for the detection and once for the installation, or am I wrong? Of course, that thing hasn't been implemented yet. Maybe you'd like to contribute it? I only do managed development - so, I think this would be a problem, wouldn't it? Kind regards, Henning -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- virtually, Rob Mensching http://RobMensching.com LLC -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
