Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application
Thank you for your answers, Neil and Rob. I have dabbled with persist=yes before, and it didn't seem like it worked for me, but I may just have not been doing it correctly. Am I right in assuming that doing a definition like this would cause the variable to persist and when uninstalling it will retain the value it had at the end of the initial installation, with no extra work involved? Variable Name= Server Persisted=yes/ I would prefer to not do it this way, as doing so would require pushing the responsibility for defining the persisted data into the bundle.wxs, which splits my data in a way I would like to avoid. We use the same MBA with multiple bundle.wxs files (with various subsets of our product suite), so it would make the installers less DRY if we had to define the variables each bundle.wxs needed. However, if it were possible to mark variables for persisting from the MBA, that would be perfectly fine for our solution, as we are right now just persisting certain Burn variables written to during the installation process. Regarding elevation, looking into the problem more seems to indicate that my options are to either put a manifest on our bundle executable, or launch a child process with elevated privileges and communicate data I need handled in an elevated context to that child process (from what I can tell, this is what burn does). Is this correct, or have I missed any simpler ways of elevating? Daniel E. Bruce -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: 15. oktober 2012 19:14 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application It remembers them for a specific Bundle. There is not currently a mechanism to get to the state of another Bundle (I think there is a feature request open to enable that). On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.comwrote: you can set Variables and mark them Persist='yes' and Burn will remember them for you. Am I correct that it remembers them for Uninstall/Repair but there is no way to recall them if you do an upgrade? Neil -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: 15 October 2012 17:50 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application Neil is correct. The BA is not elevated because it does not rollback but the package installs do. If you just want to store settings for your BA, you can set Variables and mark them Persist='yes' and Burn will remember them for you. That sounds like it might be more applicable for you anyway. -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- virtually, Rob Mensching http://RobMensching.com LLC -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ___ ___ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ___ ___ -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application
Hi. We are trying to keep some state alongside our bundle about which packages have been chosen for installation. The solution we envisioned was to put some registry entries within HKLM, but this fails on Windows 7 (and probably Vista) due to HKLM requiring admin privileges. We could work around this issue by writing to HKCU, but that would cause issues if another user ran the uninstallation (for instance) later. Is it possible to elevate the bootstrapper application in some way, so that we can write to HKLM? As a sideline question, does Burn store any information about what packages has been installed for later retrieval or persist any of the variables set during the installation on its own (if using a custom BA)? Daniel E. Bruce Software Developer, +47 91918893 Prediktor AS Habornveien 48B, N-1630 Gamle Fredrikstad, Norway -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application
How are you setting the values? Burn automatically prompts to elevate if it detects an MSI that is set to all users but you can also set this with MsiPackage/@ForcePerMachine. Neil Hi. We are trying to keep some state alongside our bundle about which packages have been chosen for installation. The solution we envisioned was to put some registry entries within HKLM, but this fails on Windows 7 (and probably Vista) due to HKLM requiring admin privileges. We could work around this issue by writing to HKCU, but that would cause issues if another user ran the uninstallation (for instance) later. Is it possible to elevate the bootstrapper application in some way, so that we can write to HKLM? As a sideline question, does Burn store any information about what packages has been installed for later retrieval or persist any of the variables set during the installation on its own (if using a custom BA)? Daniel E. Bruce Software Developer, +47 91918893 Prediktor AS Habornveien 48B, N-1630 Gamle Fredrikstad, Norway -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application
The values are set by our custom Managed Bootstrapper Application via the standard .NET Registry API, and not by any of the included packages. Since the information to be stored is on the bundle-level (which packages are selected for installation), it can't be moved into an MSI. I have attempted using IBurnEngine-Elevate(), but as far as I can see (and as I expect from it being a method of the engine), that does not give the managed bootstrapper application process elevated privileges. Daniel E. Bruce Software Developer, +47 91918893 Prediktor AS Habornveien 48B, N-1630 Gamle Fredrikstad, Norway -Original Message- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] Sent: 15. oktober 2012 14:28 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application How are you setting the values? Burn automatically prompts to elevate if it detects an MSI that is set to all users but you can also set this with MsiPackage/@ForcePerMachine. Neil Hi. We are trying to keep some state alongside our bundle about which packages have been chosen for installation. The solution we envisioned was to put some registry entries within HKLM, but this fails on Windows 7 (and probably Vista) due to HKLM requiring admin privileges. We could work around this issue by writing to HKCU, but that would cause issues if another user ran the uninstallation (for instance) later. Is it possible to elevate the bootstrapper application in some way, so that we can write to HKLM? As a sideline question, does Burn store any information about what packages has been installed for later retrieval or persist any of the variables set during the installation on its own (if using a custom BA)? Daniel E. Bruce Software Developer, +47 91918893 Prediktor AS Habornveien 48B, N-1630 Gamle Fredrikstad, Norway --- --- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ___ ___ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ___ ___ -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application
I looked at doing something similar and decided it was easier to write the values in an MSI. My logic was that I didn't want to write until the install had actually started and by that time the installer was already running elevated. I am not familiar with the managed BA to know if you can write your values after the install has started. Neil The values are set by our custom Managed Bootstrapper Application via the standard .NET Registry API, and not by any of the included packages. Since the information to be stored is on the bundle-level (which packages are selected for installation), it can't be moved into an MSI. I have attempted using IBurnEngine-Elevate(), but as far as I can see (and as I expect from it being a method of the engine), that does not give the managed bootstrapper application process elevated privileges. Daniel E. Bruce Software Developer, +47 91918893 Prediktor AS Habornveien 48B, N-1630 Gamle Fredrikstad, Norway -Original Message- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] Sent: 15. oktober 2012 14:28 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application How are you setting the values? Burn automatically prompts to elevate if it detects an MSI that is set to all users but you can also set this with MsiPackage/@ForcePerMachine. Neil Hi. We are trying to keep some state alongside our bundle about which packages have been chosen for installation. The solution we envisioned was to put some registry entries within HKLM, but this fails on Windows 7 (and probably Vista) due to HKLM requiring admin privileges. We could work around this issue by writing to HKCU, but that would cause issues if another user ran the uninstallation (for instance) later. Is it possible to elevate the bootstrapper application in some way, so that we can write to HKLM? As a sideline question, does Burn store any information about what packages has been installed for later retrieval or persist any of the variables set during the installation on its own (if using a custom BA)? Daniel E. Bruce Software Developer, +47 91918893 Prediktor AS Habornveien 48B, N-1630 Gamle Fredrikstad, Norway --- --- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - - Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ___ ___ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ___ ___ -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application
Neil is correct. The BA is not elevated because it does not rollback but the package installs do. If you just want to store settings for your BA, you can set Variables and mark them Persist='yes' and Burn will remember them for you. That sounds like it might be more applicable for you anyway. On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.comwrote: I looked at doing something similar and decided it was easier to write the values in an MSI. My logic was that I didn't want to write until the install had actually started and by that time the installer was already running elevated. I am not familiar with the managed BA to know if you can write your values after the install has started. Neil The values are set by our custom Managed Bootstrapper Application via the standard .NET Registry API, and not by any of the included packages. Since the information to be stored is on the bundle-level (which packages are selected for installation), it can't be moved into an MSI. I have attempted using IBurnEngine-Elevate(), but as far as I can see (and as I expect from it being a method of the engine), that does not give the managed bootstrapper application process elevated privileges. Daniel E. Bruce Software Developer, +47 91918893 Prediktor AS Habornveien 48B, N-1630 Gamle Fredrikstad, Norway -Original Message- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] Sent: 15. oktober 2012 14:28 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application How are you setting the values? Burn automatically prompts to elevate if it detects an MSI that is set to all users but you can also set this with MsiPackage/@ForcePerMachine. Neil Hi. We are trying to keep some state alongside our bundle about which packages have been chosen for installation. The solution we envisioned was to put some registry entries within HKLM, but this fails on Windows 7 (and probably Vista) due to HKLM requiring admin privileges. We could work around this issue by writing to HKCU, but that would cause issues if another user ran the uninstallation (for instance) later. Is it possible to elevate the bootstrapper application in some way, so that we can write to HKLM? As a sideline question, does Burn store any information about what packages has been installed for later retrieval or persist any of the variables set during the installation on its own (if using a custom BA)? Daniel E. Bruce Software Developer, +47 91918893 Prediktor AS Habornveien 48B, N-1630 Gamle Fredrikstad, Norway --- --- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - - Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ___ ___ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ___ ___ -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today
Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application
you can set Variables and mark them Persist='yes' and Burn will remember them for you. Am I correct that it remembers them for Uninstall/Repair but there is no way to recall them if you do an upgrade? Neil -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: 15 October 2012 17:50 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application Neil is correct. The BA is not elevated because it does not rollback but the package installs do. If you just want to store settings for your BA, you can set Variables and mark them Persist='yes' and Burn will remember them for you. That sounds like it might be more applicable for you anyway. -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application
It remembers them for a specific Bundle. There is not currently a mechanism to get to the state of another Bundle (I think there is a feature request open to enable that). On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.comwrote: you can set Variables and mark them Persist='yes' and Burn will remember them for you. Am I correct that it remembers them for Uninstall/Repair but there is no way to recall them if you do an upgrade? Neil -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: 15 October 2012 17:50 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Elevation of Bootstrapper Application Neil is correct. The BA is not elevated because it does not rollback but the package installs do. If you just want to store settings for your BA, you can set Variables and mark them Persist='yes' and Burn will remember them for you. That sounds like it might be more applicable for you anyway. -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- virtually, Rob Mensching http://RobMensching.com LLC -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
