Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
Was a decision ever made about what to do here? Rob dB. wrote: Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn’t subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That’s the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org http://www.dblock.org/ / foodcandy.com http://www.foodcandy.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
I always found SourceForge a pain to signup for, but that could just be me. Does CodePlex have a better forum facility? Maybe too much work just to get rid of spammers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 May 2008 15:41 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Based on the feedback, I'm definitely looking into requiring people to join the list to send mail. Before doing that, I want to make sure it is easy and *clear* (something we obviously struggle with the WiX documentation smile/) how to get on the mailing list. It would be *very*, *very* bad if people thought they couldn't ask questions... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 05:57 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Was a decision ever made about what to do here? Rob dB. wrote: Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That's the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org http://www.dblock.org/ / foodcandy.com http://www.foodcandy.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1459 - Release Date: 21/05/2008 17:34 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
Based on the feedback, I'm definitely looking into requiring people to join the list to send mail. Before doing that, I want to make sure it is easy and *clear* (something we obviously struggle with the WiX documentation smile/) how to get on the mailing list. It would be *very*, *very* bad if people thought they couldn't ask questions... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 05:57 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Was a decision ever made about what to do here? Rob dB. wrote: Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That's the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org http://www.dblock.org/ / foodcandy.com http://www.foodcandy.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
All I can say is, I signed up for the list to send questions, since I thought that's how it was set. And I deal with more spam from this group than any other source.. manually at least. Chris On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on the feedback, I'm definitely looking into requiring people to join the list to send mail. Before doing that, I want to make sure it is easy and *clear* (something we obviously struggle with the WiX documentation smile/) how to get on the mailing list. It would be *very*, *very* bad if people thought they couldn't ask questions... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 05:57 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Was a decision ever made about what to do here? Rob dB. wrote: Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That's the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org http://www.dblock.org/ / foodcandy.com http://www.foodcandy.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
Rob: Signing up for a forum or mailing list is commonplace these days, and a trivial one-time inconvenience. If someone can't figure out how to join a mailing list, they're probably not going to have much success with Wix (or any type of programming for that matter). PLEASE require people to sign up for this list. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any list these days that doesn't require it. -- Don - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
I've had a number of people suggest that finding the signup page via SourceForge is very painful. Having navigated SourceForge myself down some of the mailing list related pages, I've found there are a lot of dead ends that could be very frustrating if you are just trying to ask a question. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Caton Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 08:29 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Rob: Signing up for a forum or mailing list is commonplace these days, and a trivial one-time inconvenience. If someone can't figure out how to join a mailing list, they're probably not going to have much success with Wix (or any type of programming for that matter). PLEASE require people to sign up for this list. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any list these days that doesn't require it. -- Don - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
I was one of those people. It's painful. And I can figure out Wix... Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:22 AM To: Don Caton; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I've had a number of people suggest that finding the signup page via SourceForge is very painful. Having navigated SourceForge myself down some of the mailing list related pages, I've found there are a lot of dead ends that could be very frustrating if you are just trying to ask a question. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Caton Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 08:29 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Rob: Signing up for a forum or mailing list is commonplace these days, and a trivial one-time inconvenience. If someone can't figure out how to join a mailing list, they're probably not going to have much success with Wix (or any type of programming for that matter). PLEASE require people to sign up for this list. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any list these days that doesn't require it. -- Don - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
It's not that bad... about 3 links to follow from the main WiX page on SourceForge. Could always just add a link to https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users to one of those pages to make it more obvious though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Enns Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:26 PM To: Rob Mensching; Don Caton; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I was one of those people. It's painful. And I can figure out Wix... Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:22 AM To: Don Caton; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I've had a number of people suggest that finding the signup page via SourceForge is very painful. Having navigated SourceForge myself down some of the mailing list related pages, I've found there are a lot of dead ends that could be very frustrating if you are just trying to ask a question. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Caton Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 08:29 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Rob: Signing up for a forum or mailing list is commonplace these days, and a trivial one-time inconvenience. If someone can't figure out how to join a mailing list, they're probably not going to have much success with Wix (or any type of programming for that matter). PLEASE require people to sign up for this list. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any list these days that doesn't require it. -- Don - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
Rob: I've had a number of people suggest that finding the signup page via SourceForge is very painful. SourceForge is painful, period g. I signed up for this list because the SF interface to the list is absolutely horrible. Wix is free and the support graciously provided by you and others is free. A one-time signup isn't all that much to ask for all that in return, And it's a small price to pay to keep spam out of the list, where every last member has to waste time deleting it. -- Don - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
On Thu, 22 May 2008 07:41:17 -0700, Rob Mensching wrote: Rob, Based on the feedback, I'm definitely looking into requiring people to join the list to send mail. Before doing that, I want to make sure it is easy and *clear* (something we obviously struggle with the WiX documentation smile/) how to get on the mailing list. Couldn't the SF system instructed to return a standard letter to non-subscribers that offers them the simplest, e-mail based way to subscribe? Spammers will not receive it without a valid reply address but ordinary people will. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
On Thu, 22 May 2008 10:26:27 -0700, Neil Enns wrote: Neil, I was one of those people. It's painful. And I can figure out Wix... Come on, guys, all it takes is a single, emtpy e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and, I guess, a reply to a confirmation mail. Couldn't be easier... Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
From: DEÁK JAHN, Gábor On Thu, 22 May 2008 10:26:27 -0700, Neil Enns wrote: Neil, I was one of those people. It's painful. And I can figure out Wix... Come on, guys, all it takes is a single, emtpy e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and, I guess, a reply to a confirmation mail. Couldn't be easier... Planting a flag on the peak of Everest is easy as well - all you have to do is press the stick firmly into the snow. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
I second that. I google for wix solutions all the time or browse the list through online means. There's a lot of spam if you look at the list through the archive. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorne Laliberte Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:16 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Here's another vote for locking out non-subscribers. The spam isn't so bad if you read the list daily, but if you scan the list only occasionally to search for information the spam becomes more of an annoyance. Improving the signal-to-noise ratio will be a good thing in the long run. (Do many non-subscribers post to the list, aside from the spammers?) Lorne Laliberte Senior Software Developer Indigo Rose Software - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/j avaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
Works for people who never get Russian e-mail. Too bad if your name is Rob Menshingov. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken MacDonald Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:04 PM To: Peterson, Joel Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Neil Sleightholm Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I implemented the spam filter one of the original posters suggested (a bunch of Chinese/Russian words OR'd together), with the additional of AND wix-users to restrict it only to this list (it caught a few non-wix legitimate messages that I wanted) and I've only rec'd. about 2 spams (both in English) in the last two days. It's been *excellent*. At the least, try using the filter to suck the purported spam to a separate folder... Ken On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Peterson, Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With no spam filtering on the list, it's sometimes half of all email. Joel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Sleightholm Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:48 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I feel this has got worse recently, I think I have a pretty good spam filter but I am seeing about 10% spam now. Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan O'Neill Sent: 22 April 2008 18:48 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam At the current levels it is a minor annoyance for me, but we all know it will get a lot worse at which point I will have a problem with it. Is there nothing that SourceForge can do? I would have hoped that they would be working on reducing the levels of spam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 03:58 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if we can't filter them out before they hit the list. Rob DEÁK JAHN, Gábor wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird) and it will eliminate 98-99% of the spam after the initial learning period. It will also adapt to languages other than English, it might take slightly more time (a couple of dozen additional messages) but it will be just fine. You can manually handle the small number of false positives and negatives. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
I agree, for me this is normal for a mailing list. Join to post. Agree also on reducing the spam in the searchable archives by doing this. No spam filter there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Quigg Sent: den 22 april 2008 22:12 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I think that having to subscribe to wix-users is a reasonable prerequisite for people wishing to post. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/j avaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
what's the point in having the mail list accessible to no subscribed members anyway? if someone posts, people generally reply to the list, so the person that hasn't subscribed wouldn't get the reply. I am one of those people that has stopped looking at the emails from WiX Users though, because of the amount of spam, there really is far too much of it. Jason On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Holmgren Mathias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, for me this is normal for a mailing list. Join to post. Agree also on reducing the spam in the searchable archives by doing this. No spam filter there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Quigg Sent: den 22 april 2008 22:12 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I think that having to subscribe to wix-users is a reasonable prerequisite for people wishing to post. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/j avaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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Jason Rivers wrote: what's the point in having the mail list accessible to no subscribed members anyway? if someone posts, people generally reply to the list, so the person that hasn't subscribed wouldn't get the reply. That's a good point. I wonder how many people think we're not helpful, just because we reply to the list to be more-so. Rob I am one of those people that has stopped looking at the emails from WiX Users though, because of the amount of spam, there really is far too much of it. Jason On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Holmgren Mathias [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, for me this is normal for a mailing list. Join to post. Agree also on reducing the spam in the searchable archives by doing this. No spam filter there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Quigg Sent: den 22 april 2008 22:12 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I think that having to subscribe to wix-users is a reasonable prerequisite for people wishing to post. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/j avaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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To be honest, I never realised that you did not need an account to post before now. I think a lot of people expect it to work that way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: 23 April 2008 09:17 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Jason Rivers wrote: what's the point in having the mail list accessible to no subscribed members anyway? if someone posts, people generally reply to the list, so the person that hasn't subscribed wouldn't get the reply. That's a good point. I wonder how many people think we're not helpful, just because we reply to the list to be more-so. Rob I am one of those people that has stopped looking at the emails from WiX Users though, because of the amount of spam, there really is far too much of it. Jason On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Holmgren Mathias [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, for me this is normal for a mailing list. Join to post. Agree also on reducing the spam in the searchable archives by doing this. No spam filter there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Quigg Sent: den 22 april 2008 22:12 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I think that having to subscribe to wix-users is a reasonable prerequisite for people wishing to post. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/j avaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
Correctly if I am wrong but the member list of a mailling group can be scanned to known spammers and get bounced from it; this way you can bounce a spammer from all groups in one go (although it will give some frustration if your mistakenly get bounced...) smile / Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Martin MacPherson Verzonden: woensdag 23 april 2008 0:22 Aan: John Vottero CC: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Onderwerp: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam They must be really desperate joining a wix-user mailing list ;) On 22/04/2008, John Vottero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). What will keep the spammers from joining the list? - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/j avaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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I would imagine that whoever is spamming the list is not intentionally doing it, but just has wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net on a list of e-mail addresses, so blocking non-subscribers should be effective. John _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert van Peppen Sent: 23 April 2008 10:48 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Correctly if I am wrong but the member list of a mailling group can be scanned to known spammers and get bounced from it; this way you can bounce a spammer from all groups in one go (although it will give some frustration if your mistakenly get bounced...) smile / _ Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Martin MacPherson Verzonden: woensdag 23 april 2008 0:22 Aan: John Vottero CC: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Onderwerp: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam They must be really desperate joining a wix-user mailing list ;) On 22/04/2008, John Vottero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). What will keep the spammers from joining the list? - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/j avaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:11:11 -0400, John Vottero wrote: John, What will keep the spammers from joining the list? I admin a list where new people are set to moderated until their first post, then it can be decided whether to accept and liberate the user or to remove it as spam. But this requires extra human work and I don't know if SourceForge supports this at all (besides, everything should work by e-mail, by replying to prefabricated e-mail addresses in notification letters, going to a web site to change settings would be far more hassle). But, as far as I can tell, relatively few spammers take the trouble to join a list. Here, they have to provide a valid e-mail address, reply to a confirmation mail, and then send the spam from the same address, then unsubscribe (but chances are it will be removed, anyway, by an admin). Yes, it can be done using disposable addresses but spam usually arrives by the single action of blindly targeting the list address (probably among a million other addresses, not sent specifically here), harvested from somewhere on the web. There would be another solution to serve the causal user with a single question but SourceForge should provide it, too. A web form with captcha and all to inject a message into the list. Failing that, tightening the entry would be our only chance to keep spam at bay. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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John Vottero asked: What will keep the spammers from joining the list? Absolutely nothing, but spammers are (generally) a lazy bunch and won't do anything more than they have to. Most of the other SourceForge based groups I subscribe to are locked to subscriber only posting, and they have *significantly* lower spam levels. (I suspect they only get spammed when a subscriber's machine is turned into a zombie.) Regards, Richard * C O N F I D E N T I A L I T Y N O T I C E * --- The content of this e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this communication in error, be aware that forwarding it, copying it, or in any way disclosing its content to any other person, is strictly prohibited. Quixote Traffic Corporation is neither liable for the contents, nor for the proper, complete and timely transmission of (the information contained in) this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail immediately and delete the material from any computer. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
DEXK JAHN, GXbor wrote: I admin a list where new people are set to moderated until their first post, then it can be decided whether to accept and liberate the user or to remove it as spam. But this requires extra human work and I don't know if SourceForge supports this at all (besides, everything should work by e-mail, by replying to prefabricated e-mail addresses in notification letters, going to a web site to change settings would be far more hassle). But, as far as I can tell, relatively few spammers take the trouble to join a list. Here, they have to provide a valid e-mail address, reply to a confirmation mail, and then send the spam from the same address, then unsubscribe (but chances are it will be removed, anyway, by an admin). Yes, it can be done using disposable addresses but spam usually arrives by the single action of blindly targeting the list address (probably among a million other addresses, not sent specifically here), harvested from somewhere on the web. I do something similar but it's an automatic system. If an unsubscribed user posts then on their first post they get an email asking if they really wanted to post to the mailing list (with link to normal legal stuff saying it's public information etc. - we have had the odd occasion of people who think that I can magically remove their posts from the inboxes of everyone on the list!). This has eliminated incoming email spam. As a support list requiring registration is unacceptable in my case. Confirmation emails are tricky - The server takes measures to make sure it's not replying automatically to an obvious fake address.. the normal spamassassin, sender verification, SPF, etc. checks are made but I'm sure the system could be gamed (although to what end I'm not sure). OTOH I doubt sourceforge can be configured to do anything that sophisticated. You probably have the ability to set it to members only and that's about it. Tony - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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My vote is to require registration. It's really no big deal to sign up for a list, and I don't think it would make getting started significantly harder (newbie here, speaking from current painful experience -- probably signing up would give me a buzz of achievement that I'm not yet getting from WiX ;-) Rob Mensching wrote: If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 03:58 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if we can't filter them out before they hit the list. Rob DEK JAHN, Gbor wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird) and it will eliminate 98-99% of the spam after the initial learning period. It will also adapt to languages other than English, it might take slightly more time (a couple of dozen additional messages) but it will be just fine. You can manually handle the small number of false positives and negatives. Bye, Gbor --- DEK JAHN, Gbor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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My vote too - subscribe to post. Phil Wilson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Holmgren Mathias Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:42 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I agree, for me this is normal for a mailing list. Join to post. Agree also on reducing the spam in the searchable archives by doing this. No spam filter there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Quigg Sent: den 22 april 2008 22:12 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I think that having to subscribe to wix-users is a reasonable prerequisite for people wishing to post. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/j avaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
Require registration to post. WiX isn't the sort of subject that people typically want to ask a question or two about and then forget. Most newbies have been tasked with using WiX, so would be well advised to follow the list anyway. For the few people who have valid reasons to ask a question or two then go away, subscribing just isn't a big deal and they can unsubscribe as soon as their questions have run their course. Given the list netiquette of replying to the list rather than the individual, they need to be subscribed to get email responses to their questions anyway. It's a common practice on technical lists to require registration to post. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:29 PM To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 03:58 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if we can't filter them out before they hit the list. Rob DEÁK JAHN, Gábor wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird) and it will eliminate 98-99% of the spam after the initial learning period. It will also adapt to languages other than English, it might take slightly more time (a couple of dozen additional messages) but it will be just fine. You can manually handle the small number of false positives and negatives. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java .sun.com/javaone -- -- ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java .sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java .sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if we can't filter them out before they hit the list. Rob DEÁK JAHN, Gábor wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird) and it will eliminate 98-99% of the spam after the initial learning period. It will also adapt to languages other than English, it might take slightly more time (a couple of dozen additional messages) but it will be just fine. You can manually handle the small number of false positives and negatives. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 03:58 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if we can't filter them out before they hit the list. Rob DEÁK JAHN, Gábor wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird) and it will eliminate 98-99% of the spam after the initial learning period. It will also adapt to languages other than English, it might take slightly more time (a couple of dozen additional messages) but it will be just fine. You can manually handle the small number of false positives and negatives. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
At the current levels it is a minor annoyance for me, but we all know it will get a lot worse at which point I will have a problem with it. Is there nothing that SourceForge can do? I would have hoped that they would be working on reducing the levels of spam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 03:58 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if we can't filter them out before they hit the list. Rob DEÁK JAHN, Gábor wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird) and it will eliminate 98-99% of the spam after the initial learning period. It will also adapt to languages other than English, it might take slightly more time (a couple of dozen additional messages) but it will be just fine. You can manually handle the small number of false positives and negatives. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
I feel this has got worse recently, I think I have a pretty good spam filter but I am seeing about 10% spam now. Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan O'Neill Sent: 22 April 2008 18:48 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam At the current levels it is a minor annoyance for me, but we all know it will get a lot worse at which point I will have a problem with it. Is there nothing that SourceForge can do? I would have hoped that they would be working on reducing the levels of spam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 03:58 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if we can't filter them out before they hit the list. Rob DEÁK JAHN, Gábor wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird) and it will eliminate 98-99% of the spam after the initial learning period. It will also adapt to languages other than English, it might take slightly more time (a couple of dozen additional messages) but it will be just fine. You can manually handle the small number of false positives and negatives. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
With no spam filtering on the list, it's sometimes half of all email. Joel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Sleightholm Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:48 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I feel this has got worse recently, I think I have a pretty good spam filter but I am seeing about 10% spam now. Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan O'Neill Sent: 22 April 2008 18:48 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam At the current levels it is a minor annoyance for me, but we all know it will get a lot worse at which point I will have a problem with it. Is there nothing that SourceForge can do? I would have hoped that they would be working on reducing the levels of spam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 03:58 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if we can't filter them out before they hit the list. Rob DEÁK JAHN, Gábor wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird) and it will eliminate 98-99% of the spam after the initial learning period. It will also adapt to languages other than English, it might take slightly more time (a couple of dozen additional messages) but it will be just fine. You can manually handle the small number of false positives and negatives. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
I vote to lock non-members out. I would have normally replied to [EMAIL PROTECTED] of the specific individual anyhow because of many, many reminders not to respond to individual people so that we can all benefit from the conversation. I stopped reading and responding to e-mails on this thread (with the exception of this one) because it takes way too long to filter out the garbage. Dana On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Peterson, Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With no spam filtering on the list, it's sometimes half of all email. Joel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Sleightholm Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:48 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I feel this has got worse recently, I think I have a pretty good spam filter but I am seeing about 10% spam now. Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan O'Neill Sent: 22 April 2008 18:48 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam At the current levels it is a minor annoyance for me, but we all know it will get a lot worse at which point I will have a problem with it. Is there nothing that SourceForge can do? I would have hoped that they would be working on reducing the levels of spam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 03:58 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if we can't filter them out before they hit the list. Rob DEÁK JAHN, Gábor wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird) and it will eliminate 98-99% of the spam after the initial learning period. It will also adapt to languages other than English, it might take slightly more time (a couple of dozen additional messages) but it will be just fine. You can manually handle the small number of false positives and negatives. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
I implemented the spam filter one of the original posters suggested (a bunch of Chinese/Russian words OR'd together), with the additional of AND wix-users to restrict it only to this list (it caught a few non-wix legitimate messages that I wanted) and I've only rec'd. about 2 spams (both in English) in the last two days. It's been *excellent*. At the least, try using the filter to suck the purported spam to a separate folder... Ken On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Peterson, Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With no spam filtering on the list, it's sometimes half of all email. Joel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Sleightholm Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:48 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam I feel this has got worse recently, I think I have a pretty good spam filter but I am seeing about 10% spam now. Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan O'Neill Sent: 22 April 2008 18:48 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam At the current levels it is a minor annoyance for me, but we all know it will get a lot worse at which point I will have a problem with it. Is there nothing that SourceForge can do? I would have hoped that they would be working on reducing the levels of spam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 03:58 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if we can't filter them out before they hit the list. Rob DEÁK JAHN, Gábor wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird) and it will eliminate 98-99% of the spam after the initial learning period. It will also adapt to languages other than English, it might take slightly more time (a couple of dozen additional messages) but it will be just fine. You can manually handle the small number of false positives and negatives. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users
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I think that having to subscribe to wix-users is a reasonable prerequisite for people wishing to post. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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Here's another vote for locking out non-subscribers. The spam isn't so bad if you read the list daily, but if you scan the list only occasionally to search for information the spam becomes more of an annoyance. Improving the signal-to-noise ratio will be a good thing in the long run. (Do many non-subscribers post to the list, aside from the spammers?) Lorne Laliberte Senior Software Developer Indigo Rose Software - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). What will keep the spammers from joining the list? - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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They must be really desperate joining a wix-user mailing list ;) On 22/04/2008, John Vottero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* smile/). What will keep the spammers from joining the list? - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
Is there a language filter option? Maybe filter out the messages containing the Russian words for the or is or something like that? Most of the spam seems to be in foreign languages at the moment. On 17/04/2008, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could do that but then we'd block people like the yesterday you that wanted to ask questions without signing up. Is it worth it to block them? So far I've voted no… but the spam does feel like it is getting worse. sigh/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dB. Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 05:51 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That's the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org / foodcandy.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: If you're like me then you get a lot of Russian spam in Gmail. There has been no way to filter it out, until now. I found that if you create a filter to search for emails that have the words в OR и you will filter out a lot of the Russian spam. Full post http://www.jasonblogs.com/thoughts/filter-russian-spam-in-gmail.html Just need to identify a common chinese character..h :) On 21/04/2008, Antony Walmsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a language filter option? Maybe filter out the messages containing the Russian words for the or is or something like that? Most of the spam seems to be in foreign languages at the moment. On 17/04/2008, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could do that but then we'd block people like the yesterday you that wanted to ask questions without signing up. Is it worth it to block them? So far I've voted no… but the spam does feel like it is getting worse. sigh/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dB. Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 05:51 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That's the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org / foodcandy.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
Sorrry for the double post but I've my gmail filter (see below) to include some common chinese characters (that I found on another google trip) and that gets all my most recent spam. *(в OR и OR 的 OR 一 OR 是 OR 不 OR 了 OR 人 OR 我 OR 在 OR 有 OR 他 OR 这 OR 中 OR 大 OR 来 OR 上 OR 国 OR 个 OR 到 OR 说 OR 们 OR 为 OR 子 OR 和 OR 你 OR 年 OR 时) * On 21/04/2008, Martin MacPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: If you're like me then you get a lot of Russian spam in Gmail. There has been no way to filter it out, until now. I found that if you create a filter to search for emails that have the words в OR и you will filter out a lot of the Russian spam. Full post http://www.jasonblogs.com/thoughts/filter-russian-spam-in-gmail.html Just need to identify a common chinese character..h :) On 21/04/2008, Antony Walmsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a language filter option? Maybe filter out the messages containing the Russian words for the or is or something like that? Most of the spam seems to be in foreign languages at the moment. On 17/04/2008, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could do that but then we'd block people like the yesterday you that wanted to ask questions without signing up. Is it worth it to block them? So far I've voted no… but the spam does feel like it is getting worse. sigh/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dB. Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 05:51 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That's the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org / foodcandy.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
I'm giving it a try. I'm only testing the subject and not the body since some valid messages have Chinese text as adverts at the bottom. On 21/04/2008, Martin MacPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorrry for the double post but I've my gmail filter (see below) to include some common chinese characters (that I found on another google trip) and that gets all my most recent spam. (в OR и OR 的 OR 一 OR 是 OR 不 OR 了 OR 人 OR 我 OR 在 OR 有 OR 他 OR 这 OR 中 OR 大 OR 来 OR 上 OR 国 OR 个 OR 到 OR 说 OR 们 OR 为 OR 子 OR 和 OR 你 OR 年 OR 时) On 21/04/2008, Martin MacPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: If you're like me then you get a lot of Russian spam in Gmail. There has been no way to filter it out, until now. I found that if you create a filter to search for emails that have the words в OR и you will filter out a lot of the Russian spam. Full post http://www.jasonblogs.com/thoughts/filter-russian-spam-in-gmail.html Just need to identify a common chinese character..h :) On 21/04/2008, Antony Walmsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a language filter option? Maybe filter out the messages containing the Russian words for the or is or something like that? Most of the spam seems to be in foreign languages at the moment. On 17/04/2008, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could do that but then we'd block people like the yesterday you that wanted to ask questions without signing up. Is it worth it to block them? So far I've voted no… but the spam does feel like it is getting worse. sigh/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dB. Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 05:51 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That's the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org / foodcandy.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird) and it will eliminate 98-99% of the spam after the initial learning period. It will also adapt to languages other than English, it might take slightly more time (a couple of dozen additional messages) but it will be just fine. You can manually handle the small number of false positives and negatives. Bye, Gábor --- DEÁK JAHN, Gábor -- Budapest, Hungary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That's the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org http://www.dblock.org/ / foodcandy.com http://www.foodcandy.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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I'd really appreciate that. The signal-to-noise ratio has really taken a hit on this list recently. Rob dB. wrote: Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn’t subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That’s the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org http://www.dblock.org/ / foodcandy.com http://www.foodcandy.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
I'd agree to that. I might then get back to reading some of the posts and lending some help, as it is at the moment, there's so much spam, I rarely take a look anymore. the spam is frustrating, and i'm sure I'm not the only one that almost ignores the list because of it. J PS - Sorry Rob, did a reply instead of Reply-to-all. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Rob Hamflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd really appreciate that. The signal-to-noise ratio has really taken a hit on this list recently. Rob dB. wrote: Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That's the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org http://www.dblock.org/ / foodcandy.com http://www.foodcandy.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam
We could do that but then we'd block people like the yesterday you that wanted to ask questions without signing up. Is it worth it to block them? So far I've voted no... but the spam does feel like it is getting worse. sigh/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dB. Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 05:51 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public = more spam Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That's the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.orghttp://www.dblock.org/ / foodcandy.comhttp://www.foodcandy.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
