[WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page
There was a note on Macintouch about this page: http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/renew/renew_833.html Safari 2.0.4 on Mac OS 10.4.10 shows a blank page, but viewing page source is quite interesting - anyone care to comment? Andrew http://www.andrewmaben.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a well designed user interface, the user should not need instructions. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page
safari 3 on 10.4.11 is ok though... matches what I see in firefox On Nov 20, 2007, at 13:27, Andrew Maben wrote: There was a note on Macintouch about this page: http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/renew/renew_833.html Safari 2.0.4 on Mac OS 10.4.10 shows a blank page, but viewing page source is quite interesting - anyone care to comment? Andrew http://www.andrewmaben.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a well designed user interface, the user should not need instructions. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** == Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Site content not showing up in Firefox on Leopard
Here is a screenshot of a page from my site in Firefox 2.0.0.9 on Leopard 10.5.1: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thephotoherald/2049540131/ I have no idea why so much text is not appearing at all. Could someone with Leopard look into this for me? Thanks in advance. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site content not showing up in Firefox on Leopard
On 20 Nov 2007, at 14:53, Christian Montoya wrote: Here is a screenshot of a page from my site in Firefox 2.0.0.9 on Leopard 10.5.1: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thephotoherald/2049540131/ I have no idea why so much text is not appearing at all. Could someone with Leopard look into this for me? Thanks in advance. just compared them in Safari and Firefox on Leopard and it looks the same - i.e. no missing text. did get a report of problems here: plia href=http://www.christianmontoya.com/2007/11/19/how- familiar/ title=How familiarHow familiar/a:/p pa href=http://www.uniqlo.com/grid/;UNIQLO_GRID/a reminds me very muchly of my latest a href=http://apps.facebook.com/ mob_art/Facebook app/a, which people are finally playing with. Maybe tonight I'll add multiple color options. Also, a href=http://apps.facebook.com/businessiq/ Business IQ/a is much more playable now./p p/li/p to do with nesting I guess.. but it looks fine in that it doesn't match your screenie. ;) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page
My point was not that there are environments in which it works, but the fact that a government page is totally inaccessible in Safari 2.0.4 on Mac OS 10.4.10. The comments I'd hoped to provoke would refer to the coding practices resulting in the interesting page source vis a vis web standards... Andrew On Nov 20, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Crocker Ryan (rc) wrote: Looks good in IE 6 IE 7 also. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Ortenzi Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:23 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page safari 3 on 10.4.11 is ok though... matches what I see in firefox *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page
Looks good in Safari 3.0,3 (β) under 10.4.10 (Tiger). Kimberly On 11/20/07, Andrew Maben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a note on Macintouch about this page: http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/renew/renew_833.html Safari 2.0.4 on Mac OS 10.4.10 shows a blank page, but viewing page source is quite interesting - anyone care to comment? Andrew http://www.andrewmaben. http://www.andrewmaben.com/net [EMAIL PROTECTED] *In a well designed user interface, the user should not need ** instructions.* *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.orghttp://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm /mail/guidelines.cfm http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.orghttp://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm /join/unsubscribe.cfm http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED].org[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Kimberly Batteau http://www.kimberlybatteau.com/ Ever striving for perfetcion. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page
Looks good in IE 6 IE 7 also. Ryan Crocker Training Support Specialist Volvo Penta of the Americas, Inc. Chesapeake, VA, USA Phone: 1-757-436-2800 x7733 Fax: 1-757-436-5182 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Ortenzi Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:23 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page safari 3 on 10.4.11 is ok though... matches what I see in firefox On Nov 20, 2007, at 13:27, Andrew Maben wrote: There was a note on Macintouch about this page: http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/renew/renew_833.html Safari 2.0.4 on Mac OS 10.4.10 shows a blank page, but viewing page source is quite interesting - anyone care to comment? Andrew http://www.andrewmaben. http://www.andrewmaben.com/ net [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In a well designed user interface, the user should not need instructions. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** == Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page
personally, I expect US and UK government sites to fail validation ;-) On Nov 20, 2007, at 15:46, Andrew Maben wrote: My point was not that there are environments in which it works, but the fact that a government page is totally inaccessible in Safari 2.0.4 on Mac OS 10.4.10. The comments I'd hoped to provoke would refer to the coding practices resulting in the interesting page source vis a vis web standards... Andrew On Nov 20, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Crocker Ryan (rc) wrote: Looks good in IE 6 IE 7 also. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Ortenzi Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:23 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page safari 3 on 10.4.11 is ok though... matches what I see in firefox *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** == Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page
Well the Danish foreign ministry http://www.um.dk/en passes html validation. The guys that build it obviously wanted it to validate (look at the comments) but that didn't make it accessible or more usable. Joseph Ortenzi skrev: personally, I expect US and UK government sites to fail validation ;-) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] SIte Maps?
Just to say: Thanks for the responses. All interesting. Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page
hmm... base href=http://www.um.dk/CMS.Web/Templates/Front%20Pages/ FrontPage.aspx/ empty spans, empty p tags, table structure where not necessary... half-hearted I'd say. On Nov 20, 2007, at 17:33, Kim Kruse wrote: Well the Danish foreign ministry http://www.um.dk/en passes html validation. The guys that build it obviously wanted it to validate (look at the comments) but that didn't make it accessible or more usable. Joseph Ortenzi skrev: personally, I expect US and UK government sites to fail validation ;-) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** == Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:33:44 am Crocker Ryan (rc) wrote: Looks good in IE 6 IE 7 also. Hi I think it's a case of works in IE, then good enough. Hello 1999! : Designed forbr id=XSpLit247/Internet Explorer 6.0 Something weird about passport renewal pages, I don't know if they are all developed by the same mob - the Australian one (http://www.passports.gov.au) asks for a email address but asks to make sure that it is typed in uppercase only for readability. Maybe they've found a programming langyage that doesn't support strtoupper() ? The source looks like it has been crafted by some odd CMS code generator, or maybe someone in marketing decided to do some copy and pasting. Cheers James Ryan Crocker Training Support Specialist Volvo Penta of the Americas, Inc. Chesapeake, VA, USA Phone: 1-757-436-2800 x7733 Fax: 1-757-436-5182 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Invisible US Passport renewal page
http://www.passports.gov.au 1. Flyout menu? Check 2. Really bad site search? Check. 3. Ugly design? Check. 4. Shocking usability? Check. Must be a government site ;) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] SIte Maps?
In coming in late to the discussion: Do we really need a sitemap? I recently read an article were it talked that if all the seo was done properly and it was smallish, you probably do not need a sitemap. On Nov 21, 2007 3:28 AM, Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to say: Thanks for the responses. All interesting. Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Page shift in IE6
Hi I've got a page shift happening when you hover over certain elements in the right column on this page: http://www.gbjt.org.au/competitions/enrolment/ It happens when you hover over the links in the top box and over any of the form inputs, but not on the links in the two smaller boxes. I know that these sorts of shifts are usually due to hasLayout issues, and I've been adding height and zoom to various elements but I can't seem to find how to solve it. :/ It's also related to the max-width expression I'm using on the wrapper because if I take it out it disappears. Can anyone see what I'm missing? Cheers John -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Page shift in IE6
John Faulds wrote: I've got a page shift happening when you hover over certain elements in the right column on this page: http://www.gbjt.org.au/competitions/enrolment/ Can you provide a link directly to your IE stylesheet? It's a bit difficult to track down from the outside. Looks like you're using auto as fall-back in your expression. That'll trigger 'Layout' on and off, with the quite normal result that it messes with some of your positioning. Can't suggest proper fix without seeing all your IE styles. However, adding 'hasLayout' triggers all over the place rarely fixes anything since we're dealing with a bug that has as many negative sides as it has positive. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Page shift in IE6
Hi Georg, It's at: http://www.gbjt.org.au/css/IE.css On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:08:11 +1000, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Faulds wrote: I've got a page shift happening when you hover over certain elements in the right column on this page: http://www.gbjt.org.au/competitions/enrolment/ Can you provide a link directly to your IE stylesheet? It's a bit difficult to track down from the outside. Looks like you're using auto as fall-back in your expression. That'll trigger 'Layout' on and off, with the quite normal result that it messes with some of your positioning. Can't suggest proper fix without seeing all your IE styles. However, adding 'hasLayout' triggers all over the place rarely fixes anything since we're dealing with a bug that has as many negative sides as it has positive. regards Georg -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Page shift in IE6
Dont know if this will help or not BUT I had some similar problems previously and wrote about some of the solutions http://germworks.net/blog/2007/08/28/how-to-fix-content-jumping-in-ie/ On Nov 21, 2007 9:31 AM, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've got a page shift happening when you hover over certain elements in the right column on this page: http://www.gbjt.org.au/competitions/enrolment/ It happens when you hover over the links in the top box and over any of the form inputs, but not on the links in the two smaller boxes. I know that these sorts of shifts are usually due to hasLayout issues, and I've been adding height and zoom to various elements but I can't seem to find how to solve it. :/ It's also related to the max-width expression I'm using on the wrapper because if I take it out it disappears. Can anyone see what I'm missing? Cheers John -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- JP2 Designs http://www.jp2designs.com http://www.germworks.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Form Submit
Hi there, I've created a page on a site that has a form for customers to submit information. I want the information to be emailed to me but I don't want to use the mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] as it brings up outlook express. Does anyone know what I will need to make sure it automatically sends the information to my email address? Thanks alot Alex _ Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810_t=766724125_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline_MyCareer_Oct07_m=EXT *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Form Submit
Alexander Uribe wrote: I've created a page on a site that has a form for customers to submit information. I want the information to be emailed to me but I don't want to use the mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] as it brings up outlook express. Does anyone know what I will need to make sure it automatically sends the information to my email address? Alex, you will need to do some server-side scripting, as in php. using the languages' mail() function will send from the form. http://us2.php.net/mail Off topic, this is a standards group, not necessarily a programming help list. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Form Submit
I believe what you want to do is use a form handler. This will send the form information to a desired email address once the submit button is pressed. This can be accomplished in many different ways. If you don't have the means to program your own, check out www.hotscripts.com and search for 'form handler'. Hope this helps. On Nov 20, 2007 10:02 PM, Alexander Uribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I've created a page on a site that has a form for customers to submit information. I want the information to be emailed to me but I don't want to use the mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] as it brings up outlook express. Does anyone know what I will need to make sure it automatically sends the information to my email address? Thanks alot Alex -- Check our comprehensive Salary Centre Overpaid or Underpaid?http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810_t=766724125_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline_MyCareer_Oct07_m=EXT *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Form Submit
Thanks for that Grant! cheers Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:15:41 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Form Submit I believe what you want to do is use a form handler. This will send the form information to a desired email address once the submit button is pressed. This can be accomplished in many different ways. If you don't have the means to program your own, check out www.hotscripts.com and search for 'form handler'. Hope this helps. On Nov 20, 2007 10:02 PM, Alexander Uribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I've created a page on a site that has a form for customers to submit information. I want the information to be emailed to me but I don't want to use the mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as it brings up outlook express. Does anyone know what I will need to make sure it automatically sends the information to my email address? Thanks alot Alex Check our comprehensive Salary Centre Overpaid or Underpaid? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** _ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext_t=764565661_r=OCT07_endtext_Future_m=EXT *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Form Submit
You generally would post the form to a page with code such as PERL,PHP or ASP.NET to process the form. Here is one simple tutorial on it http://apptools.com/phptools/forms/ Here is a link to alot of tutorials http://www.tutorialized.com/tutorials/PHP/Form-Processing/1 Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Alexander Uribe wrote: Hi there, I've created a page on a site that has a form for customers to submit information. I want the information to be emailed to me but I don't want to use the mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] as it brings up outlook express. Does anyone know what I will need to make sure it automatically sends the information to my email address? Thanks alot Alex Check our comprehensive Salary Centre Overpaid or Underpaid? http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810_t=766724125_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline_MyCareer_Oct07_m=EXT *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?
Trying to help a friend with their form markup, I suggested they look up the W3C specifications. Their question was does the input tag require a closing /input. I told them categorically no but was embarrassed to see this in the W3C specs[1]: !ELEMENT INPUT - O EMPTY -- form control -- Now, I read that as closing tag optional. So I am wrong. Or am I? Anyone? [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-INPUT Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Page shift in IE6
John Faulds wrote:
http://www.gbjt.org.au/competitions/enrolment/
http://www.gbjt.org.au/css/IE.css
1: the large shifting is easiest solved by deleting all R:P styles on
sidebar...
#sidebar {
position: relative; -- delete
z-index: 200; -- delete
}
...which leaves a very small shift that I'll track down later.
2: the IE-expression isn't used right on that page, since '80em' doesn't
correspond to _one_ specific pixel-width. In IE/win it corresponds to 5
different pixel-widths - one for each font-resizing step, which means
your expression have to ask IE6 which font-resizing step it's on.
No use doing that with an expression when font-size is declared on body.
The solution is to move _your_ font-size onto #wrap, and ask IE6 what
each user has chosen. IE6 has the answer styled in points on its
body-element - as long as you don't overwrite it.
A couple of working solutions can be found here...
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_14.html
...almost half way down the page under the headline:
px/em-based min/max-width expression...
The main column in that page has max-width in 'em', so you can see how
that works in IE6. I've just complicated it a bit by reducing the effect
of small font-resize settings in all versions of IE/win.
I'll see if I can find the last couple of pixels shift in your layout
... once I have had some sleep :-)
For now I'll just mention that IE/win doesn't handle negative backside
margins on right-floats very well - unlike on left-floats. Don't know if
that matters in your case though.
regards
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Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?
This is the reason why i made the move to XHTML - it is much more structured in my opinion. And these sort of issues don't arise. Adam. On Nov 21, 2007 3:12 PM, David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to help a friend with their form markup, I suggested they look up the W3C specifications. Their question was does the input tag require a closing /input. I told them categorically no but was embarrassed to see this in the W3C specs[1]: !ELEMENT INPUT - O EMPTY -- form control -- Now, I read that as closing tag optional. So I am wrong. Or am I? Anyone? [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-INPUT Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- - http://myfitness.ning.com A community of people that care about their health and fitness Free fitness videos, recipes, blogs, photos etc. -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?
David Hucklesby wrote: Trying to help a friend with their form markup, I suggested they look up the W3C specifications. Their question was does the input tag require a closing /input. I told them categorically no but was embarrassed to see this in the W3C specs[1]: !ELEMENT INPUT - O EMPTY -- form control -- Now, I read that as closing tag optional. So I am wrong. Or am I? Hi David, there's no closing tag input / is XHTML input is HTML -- Chris Knowles *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Page shift in IE6
1: the large shifting is easiest solved by deleting all R:P styles on
sidebar...
#sidebar {
position: relative; -- delete
z-index: 200; -- delete
}
I had that there because the top link in the sidebar seems to get
partially obscured by the transparent PNG of the ball. I'm sure it was
working at some point, but doesn't seem to be now. :/
I've tried moving the font-size to the wrapper and using the revised
expression for px/em-based min/max-width from your example but it doesn't
stop the page shift and also the max-width doesn't get applied either.
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RE: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?
there's no closing tag input / is XHTML input is HTML Actually as far as XML (and consequently XHTML) is concerned: input type=text name=a value=a/input Is the same as: input type=text name=a value=a / It's just that input can't contain anything between the start and end tags. Both are valid though. Regards, Kepler *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
