[WSG] WAI: successful Australian (or global) examples
Hey there crew, I'm putting in a tender for some government work and one of the requirements is some successful WAI sites that I've been involved in. I've actually not been involved in a single one and I think this requirement is a little stringent. Has anyone out there been involved in a successful example? It doesn't have to be Australian even... I just need some examples (or lack of) so I can point out to them that the requirement is a little harsh. A bientot, Benvolio Ben Webster --Conversant Studios[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.conversantstudios.com.au
Re: [WSG] HTML email - mac testers please
Hey there Mark, html in emails is a bit trcky and doesn't take too kindly to external css files or using css for positioning. To cover all bases, I usually code the emails in html 3.2 - using as much inline crappy html as possible. It ain't pretty but it works. Go here for some more info : http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StyleInEmail And check here for the nifty little mail program I use called Dada mail : http://mojo.skazat.com/ As long as you whack in html 3.2 - all will be gravy. A bientot, Benvolio - Original Message - From: Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:08 PM Subject: [WSG] HTML email - mac testers please Hi All I've got an HTML email that I need to prepare for a client. The mockup can be seen at: HTML: http://mark.gruden.com/beerworth/ CSS: http://mark.gruden.com/beerworth/lib/main.css We didn't design it, we just did the HTML CSS work. An initial review by the designers (MAC users) has resulted in them coming back saying there are padding/margin issues on Safari 1.1.1 and IE 5.2. Bascially the blue area on the right side (the bit starting with You are subscribed to...) has a couple of pixels white space at the top bottom. This blue should be sitting flush with the header footer. I've tested it on IE 5.1.7 (it looks fine), but don't have access to either of these other browsers. I've got two questions: 1) What mail client are available on the MAC and what browsers do they use for rendering HTML content? 2) What is causing this issue and what can I do to fix it? Thanks in advance. Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] HTML email - mac testers please
Hey there Mark, html in emails is a bit trcky and doesn't take too kindly to external css files or using css for positioning. To cover all bases, I usually code the emails in html 3.2 - using as much inline crappy html as possible. It ain't pretty but it works. Go here for some more info : http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StyleInEmail And check here for the nifty little mail program I use called Dada mail : http://mojo.skazat.com/ As long as you whack in html 3.2 - all will be gravy. A bientot, Benvolio - Original Message - From: Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:08 PM Subject: [WSG] HTML email - mac testers please Hi All I've got an HTML email that I need to prepare for a client. The mockup can be seen at: HTML: http://mark.gruden.com/beerworth/ CSS: http://mark.gruden.com/beerworth/lib/main.css We didn't design it, we just did the HTML CSS work. An initial review by the designers (MAC users) has resulted in them coming back saying there are padding/margin issues on Safari 1.1.1 and IE 5.2. Bascially the blue area on the right side (the bit starting with You are subscribed to...) has a couple of pixels white space at the top bottom. This blue should be sitting flush with the header footer. I've tested it on IE 5.1.7 (it looks fine), but don't have access to either of these other browsers. I've got two questions: 1) What mail client are available on the MAC and what browsers do they use for rendering HTML content? 2) What is causing this issue and what can I do to fix it? Thanks in advance. Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] IE hiding text
Hey there Gary, there's just a small problem withthe way your structring your background image for the left hand column. For help go here:Faux columns - by Dan Cederhomhttp://www.alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/ btw - your images and colours look very familiar. A lot likea site I posted to the group for feedback a while back: http://www.conversantstudios.com.au/apa/index_01.html If you're going to use the same guff - at least change the name of the images to protect the innocent: http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/fileadmin/metTempl/foot_terms_of_use.gif http://www.conversantstudios.com.au/apa/i/foot_terms_of_use.gif Benvolio --+Ben WebsterConversant Studios[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.conversantstudios.com.au - Original Message - From: "Gary Greer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:43 PM Subject: [WSG] IE hiding text I'm working on http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/index.php?id=456 - it's going to be our intranet. Looking at it in Firefox, it looks fine, but in IE the menu on the left appears but is then overwritten by the background image on the container div. Does any one have any suggestions? gary
Re: [WSG] SMH launch
Hey there Peter, everyone here at my office has had the day in their calendar to check out the redesign. Now thatthe redesign hasshipped and you can now get your life back... I'd love to hear (if you have time) about the process involved in the redesign. There was a report from Forrester last year thata large percentageof redesigns make things worse and they cited Macromedia's first iteration as an example. They then went on to praise the second redesign - http://www.macromedia.com/homepage/forrester.pdf From a process point of view, I'd love to know how you approached such ahuge project. ~ How you identified a redesign was necessary ~ How you got buy-in from the key stakeholders that a redesign was necessary ~ What were the traget areas you wanted to improve and update ~ What kind of useability // surveys // focus groups // lab // eye tracking testing you did ~ How you migrated the templates (you guys use Fatwire as the backend yeah?) ~ How you went about browser testing and what browsers you promised the stakeholders you would test for ~ How rigourous was your test plan ~ How many releases and iterations you diddo before final release ~ What have been the anectdotal responses from users ~ What are the measureable benefits from the redesign mmm - so many questions - so little time. I'm sure you're going to have a busy couple of weeks so I will understand if you ignore such a long list of sticky-beak questions... I would. Personally - I love the redesign. A bienetot, Benvolio - Original Message - From: James Gollan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:02 AM Subject: [WSG] SMH launch Hey why has the SMH site gone haywire in IE6? Only kidding peter looks great. That was the big one! Well done again James
Re: Opening pages in new windows... was Re: [WSG] XHTML (OT??)
Hey there team, surely there must be a more specific objective than for the users to simply stay on the site for as long as possible. I can assure you that is not the objective of content heavy sites like smh.com.au I can think of many good reasons to go to a new window. Here's a good one - contextual help. Think of the UI for helps screens on your PC // Mac. They always open a new window into a help centre where you can pose your question - get your answer and then close the window. This way you're still at the place you experienced the problem, but you're now armed with the knowledge to solve it. For an online eg go here - https://f2members.f2.com.au/f2Reg/f2members/join.do and click on the question mark icon. Benvolio p.s. I don't work for f2.com.au - Original Message - From: Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: RE: Opening pages in new windows... was Re: [WSG] XHTML (OT??) Well its more a hobby than a job... I do work - but its not my primary source of income - that's the parents :) I still live at home - im 18 and just began university (telecommunications engineering @ UTS) But that's true - if they click out of your website, they will probably get lost in a myriad of of links and popups, they will forget there name - let alone your website. That's why all offsite links are new window links. :) - Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.neester.com - -Original Message- From: Michael Zeltner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Opening pages in new windows... was Re: [WSG] XHTML (OT??) i think it depends on how you see it. the customer (i presume this is your job) wants the user to stay on the site as long as possible. if a site opens in a new window, the possibility that user will browse his site again, is much higher than if he has just the back button. from the usability/information architecture point, the target=_blank is rather bad imho. just my 0.02 euro ;) regards, michael -- niij http://niij.org/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] html + css guru contracter
Hey there people, Do you know any contractors that are in Sydney with great html // css skills? If they have an IA and design ability - that would be (well amazing) great as well. The company I work for - Hothouse Interactive - are looking to outsource all the html // css. The programmers only care about the logic and the html suffers ENORMOUSLY. It should work out to about 3 days a week on a contract rate - but it will be a bit flood+ famine- so it's not a bad gig. For an eg of the standard of work go here and click the links = http://www.conversantstudios.com.au/apa/index_01.html If you know anyone who might fit the bill can you forward their details to me - or vice versa... my Hothouse details are below. Thanks, Benvolio Ben Webster+61 2 9432 3671[EMAIL PROTECTED]Hothouse Interactive Pty LtdLevel 3, 154 Pacific HighwaySt Leonards NSW 2067
[WSG] bug check - does it break?
Hey there crew, just finished marking up the templates for a new site we're building here at werk. At the moment it validates a-ok - but I was wondering if you guys could run your keen eyes over it to see if there are any bugs. I've tested the markup in a few browsers - but haven't been able to test yet on Win95, 98, 2000, IE5 or Mac OS 8+9. http://conversantstudios.com.au/apa/ http://www.conversantstudios.com.au/apa/index_02.html http://www.conversantstudios.com.au/apa/index_05.html Let me know what you think, Benvolio
[WSG] styling hr tags
hey there crew, i'm having a cross-browser issue with styling
some hr tags. they look fine - ie. the dotted image displays - in
mozilla//firebird etc but in IE i just get a solid line. go here -
http://conversantstudios.com.au/tests/omnus/
css is here - http://conversantstudios.com.au/tests/omnus/c/screen.css
and here's the relevant css bit:
hr {
background: url(../i/omnus_h_dotted.gif) repeat-x;
height: 1px;
border: 0;
margin: 10px 10px 10px 0;
padding: 0 10px 0 0;
}
do i need to add any
values in the css? thanks, benvolio
--+Ben
WebsterConversant Studios[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.conversantstudios.com.au
