[WSG] Re: WSG Digest
On 24 Feb 2009, at 11:21, Bob Schwartz wrote: 1. Dublin Core: I have only been able to find older studies (2000) regarding the possible improvement in search engine positioning through the use of these tags. The conclusion in these olders studies was "no significant imporvement", however they did go on to say that in the future these tags will play a more important role. Has that future arrived or are these tags essentialy still "code bloat"? The Dublib Core is only one of a few different metadata projects, such as Web Ontology Language (OWL), the Warwick Framework, Resource Description Framework (RDF) to name just a few. These metadata projects try to describe or represent knowledge. The thirteen elements of the Dublin Core include familiar descriptive data such as author, title, and subject... but they are not enough. So the Warwick Framework aimed to expend on the Dublin Core. How essential are they? Well, I remember that the webstandardsgroup.org used to recommend using the DC metadata -- but last I checked they don't anymore. 2. geo.position: [snipped] Anyone have any experience or thoughts regarding these tags? I recently looked into this. I think as with the above, no one standard has emerged just yet. Try and look into .gfx format and .kml format files. But not sure if this is what you meant. Some links to check out: http://www.topografix.com/gpx.asp http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/ http://www.gpsbabel.org/ Elle *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Re: Title attribute
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:51:52, Chris Dimmock wrote:
Actually, using the 'title' attribute in a link does NOT add a little
bit of SEO. Title element ('Page Title') - yes for SEO - but title
attribute - no.
Try it yourself. Put a few words in a title attribute - words which
don't otherwise appear on your page. The once Google has re-indexed
the page, (look at the date in the Google cache); then search your
sitein Google for the words you included in the title attribute.
Google won't find them, because it doesn't index them; just like
Google doesn't index the content of e.g. meta name ="keywords" field.
title attributes do help SEO and google does find them, but... if the
word appears only once in the page (and especially not in the main
text), it is quite logical that that page will not come up first on
search results.
As far as I know, google looks at the whole page and tries to
understand the theme of the page. This is done by looking at the
content and finding what the theme is according to everything on the
page and how each element is related to that theme. Google gives more
importance to keywords that appear in the page title and top headings
but it also looks at the rest of the page including images alt text,
title attributes, link naming, links, etc...
Also google does index the keywords and description metatags -- but
because they have been abused by black hat SEO, google does not give
them as much importance in its algorithm anymore.
FWIW,
Elle
http://designbyelle.com.au/
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[WSG] Re: Browser / OS Test on website.
On 15/01/2009, at 1:06 AM, > wrote: * From: "Danny Croft" Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:02:52 + Subject: Browser / OS Test on website. Link: http://dannythewebdev.com (almost forgot to add the link) Hi Danny, Site looks very nice -- clean and simple design. Also, love your logo. Two suggestions though: 1. I found it a bit annoying that I had to go back to the top to be able to continue navigating the site. Maybe consider leaving the #header in sight all the time. 2. Since this is a site promoting you, I would suggest adding a portfolio section with images and information about previous projects. All the best, Elle http://designbyelle.com.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Re: JavaScript as External File vs. Internal Code and linking to images
After the change above, the code worked. I went back to reading about the JavaScript standard, I thought that JavaScript was read like an external CSS file was read, where you would have to use the (../) part to link to the image if it was in a different folder one level above the current folder. (as the first line of code above is.) Is that not how JavaScript works? When it comes to linked images? HI Brett, Your directory structure is good. I usually use: / Root directory -- /images --/css --/scripts And you are correct that Javascript scripts should be linked as an external file. As for linking for images, I use relative paths (i.e. ../ ) while on my local machine and change to absolute paths when uploading to the web server (i.e. /images/some_image.jpg ). The reason why is because even if you move your HTML pages around, the path will always point to the image. HTH, Elle *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] web standards, the semantic web and...
Hi, I joined this group in 2005. I have learned a lot since. I am currently completing an essay for my studies. I selected the topic of web standards for my project covering the challenges of why web standards haven't been achieved. My arguments are (to keep it simple): -- Standardisation process in cyberspace needs to be faster and accommodate field developments -- ie. formal vs. field conventions -- MSIE vs Firefox as a bottleneck barrier to standards but also IE's version targeting and MS IE8 dilemma -- Metadata problems: two many projects for implementation such as OWL, XML's Schema's, RDF, Dublin Core, Warwick Framework... -- Education for future improvement My essay examines more than the above and continues to look at issues of open vs. proprietary standards, semantic web and data mining issues and more. I am actually writing this email for a few reasons: 1. When I joined this group, one of the resources on this site offered: 10 things a developer should do for his client. One of these suggestions included implementing the Dublin Core metadata. Looking for this resource today, I couldn't find it. Well I found the page but it only had 4 points on it -- instead of 10 -- and none were on topic of Dublin Core. Would anyone know why? 2. I guess this is part of the ever changing nature of the web but things that I thought were happening (I guess my time perception is quite lacking) have been out of date. Examples are the WCAG samurai does no loner exist (is that right???) and XMLHttpRequest is now becoming a W3C recommendation. So, just wanted to check that I haven't missed anything and that the WCAG Samurai completed their work with their recent draft. Also , did I miss any updates regarding the html5/xhtml2 specifications--meaning what is happening with these specifications' drafts? Lastly, if anyone is interested in reading my essay, I will happily email it onward (please contact me off list) and I am very happy to receive your constructive feedback. Cheers, Elle *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] wen standards, the semantic web and...
Hi, I joined this group in 2005. I have learned a lot since. I am currently completing an essay for my studies. I selected the topic of web standards for my project covering the challenges of why web standards haven't been achieved. My arguments are (to keep it simple): -- Standardisation process in cyberspace needs to be faster and accommodate field developments -- ie. formal vs. field conventions -- MSIE vs Firefox as a bottleneck barrier to standards but also IE's version targeting and MS IE8 dilemma -- Metadata problems: two many projects for implementation such as OWL, XML's Schema's, RDF, Dublin Core, Warwick Framework... -- Education for future improvement My essay examines more than the above and continues to look at issues of open vs. proprietary standards, semantic web and data mining issues and more. I am actually writing this email for a few reasons: 1. When I joined this group, one of the resources on this site offered: 10 things a developer should do for his client. One of these suggestions included implementing the Dublin Core metadata. Looking for this resource today, I couldn't find it. Well I found the page but it only had 4 points on it -- instead of 10 -- and none were on topic of Dublin Core. Would anyone know why? 2. I guess this is part of the ever changing nature of the web but things that I thought were happening (I guess my time perception is quite lacking) have been out of date. Examples are the WCAG samurai does no loner exist (is that right???) and XMLHttpRequest is now becoming a W3C recommendation. So, just wanted to check that I haven't missed anything and that the WCAG Samurai completed their work with their recent draft. Also , did I miss any updates regarding the html5/xhtml2 specifications--meaning what is happening with these specifications' drafts? Lastly, if anyone is interested in reading my essay, I will happily email it onward (please contact me off list) and I am very happy to receive your constructive feedback. Cheers, Elle *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Re: Site Check
On 23/12/2007, at 1:46 AM, wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 8:30 AM, CK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://working.bushidodeep.com/kevon/index.html Could use a once over for this site. any suggestions are welcome. I've only checked it on Mac Safari and FF and it looks good. I like how the header is positioned at the bottom and has transparency set to it. (I wonder how IE will take it but can't check from here). Only one comment, instead of using an anchor link above the h2, you could give the h2 an id and use it instead. Cheers, Elle *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Shop Products Markup
Hi, Just wanted to ask when you build an e-commerce site, do you markup the products in any additional markup to give them more meaning or interoperability? and by that I mean microformats or XBL or just XML? Thanks, Elle http://designbyelle.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Shop Products Markup
Hi, Just wanted to ask when you build an e-commerce site, do you markup the products in any additional markup to give them more meaning? and by that I mean microformats or XBL or just XML? Thanks, Elle http://designbyelle.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Shop Products Markup
Hi, Just wanted to ask when you build an e-commerce site, do you markup the products in any additional markup to give them more meaning? and by that I mean microformats or XBL or just XML? Thanks, Elle http://designbyelle.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Re: Site check please
Elle Meredith wrote: > Could you please have a look at http://digitaluwphotography.com/ and > let me know what you think? > > I also have a problem with the top div#access links that I don't know > why just don't work (skip and site info). Nick Gleitzman wrote: >> Elle, your css declares div#access as position:absolute, and your html >> has div#access marked up as a child of , not of div#wrapper. So >> div#access is taken out of flow, then div#wrapper is the first element >> in flow - and it covers div#access. >> Move div#access inside div#wrapper and the links are accessible to the >> cursor. >> Or if the order of your marup is important, add a positive z-index >> value to div#access via the css and move it up to the top of the stack. >> BTW, you do know your dropdowns don't work in IE/Win, don't you? >> HTH >> N >> ___ >> omnivision. websight. >> http://www.omnivision.com.au/ Thanks everyone for the feedback. I agree, I need to cut down the text a bit. I'm also thinking of using a bigger font size. Also, thanks Nick for the solution of my problem. I know my dropdowns don't work in IE. I am not allowed to use Javascript for this site at the moment. I am going to use the top- level links as a gate for the rest of the pages - so people using IE will have to click an extra click to get to the content - unfortunately :). I will fix that in a later stage. Cheers, Elle *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Site check please
Hi, Could you please have a look at http://digitaluwphotography.com/ and let me know what you think? I also have a problem with the top div#access links that I don't know why just don't work (skip and site info). TIA, Elle http://designbyelle.com.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Re: MS Smart Tags
>>Even MS eventually had to accept it was a bad idea and they removed it >>before releasing IE6. From >>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/835564/en-gb "The most contentious >>part of IE6, Smart Tags, was removed just prior to its release." >>As far as I know they didn't sneak it back in later, either; so the >>tag shouldn't be necessary :) Thanks Ben. Elle :) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] MS Smart Tags
Hi, It might sound silly but I first found out about MS Smart Tags yesterday. I found an article on ALA about them from 2001. Just wanted to ask, does anyone know what happened with them since? And would the meta tag: content="true" /> work? or is it still necessary? Cheers, Elle *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Fwd: Doubled heights for menu in IE and a couple more
I also wanted to ask if you could have a look at the portfolio page and help me make the styles for that section simpler. I used a definition list and floated the and to the left. This breaks in IE. Any ideas how to make it better, would be welcomed. The site is at: http://designbyelle.com.au/ >> I think you need to make the s clear: both. Hi John, 1. I added height and line-height and my menu is fixed. Thanks. 2. The portfolio still breaks in IE. Any ideas?? TIA, Elle *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Doubled heights for menu in IE and a couple more
Hi, I have a couple of problems with my styles that break in IE and wanted to ask for help. 1. My main menu doubles the heights of the links in IE6. It's still functioning but it's not meant to look like that. 2. I also wanted to ask if you could have a look at the portfolio page and help me make the styles for that section simpler. I used a definition list and floated the and to the left. This breaks in IE. Any ideas how to make it better, would be welcomed. 3. On the portfolio page, the second image when floated, has a margin on the top that I don't know why is happening and I had to declare a negative margin- top to align the images. And off course IE doesn't like that. This also happens on the home page where there is a top margin on the main image that I had to declare negative margin-top as well. The site is at: http://designbyelle.com.au/ TIA, Elle *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
