[WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables
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Re: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables
On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Lapcewich, Dennis wrote: Thanks to all who responded, and confirmed my initial view. My reason for asking the obvious is that within a government agency, we seem to have an excess of pickers of nits (often outside of the actual expertise) who just won’t take no for an answer. The views offered here gave me several different ways to say the same thing. On top of this, we are using an archaic CMS system (directed to use by those above us) that does not lend itself well to best practices. I really did need those 1,000 different methods to change the light bulb because of the low wattage dim wits that often try to brighten my day with their bug light prowess (BZa!). J Thanks all! Dennis Dennis Lapcewich US Forest Service Webmaster You do have one thing going for you and that is accessibility. If the CMS you are required to use does not permit best practices re accessibility, then push that button. Those above you will most certainly not want to be labeled as being insensitive to the disabled, right? Government web sites should led the way in accessibility compliance, but unfortunately they don't. If you think the US Forest Service has problems with their web sites, take a look at the VA websites. Cheers, tedd _ t...@sperling.com http://sperling.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables
On 12 Oct 2011, at 20:58, Lapcewich, Dennis wrote: Is it a best practice to wrap content in a table cell using p tags? It is best practise to wrap paragraphs in a P element. If you have paragraphs in your table data (which is relatively rare, but still possible), then you should use P elements. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables
Folks, I'm seeking some best practices advice. Is it a best practice to wrap content in a table cell using p tags? Or just properly code the td and/or th tags? We have a couple of schools of thought raging at the moment and I've been tasked to seek the wisdom of others. Dennis Dennis Lapcewich US Forest Service Webmaster DRM Civil Rights POC / USFS 508 Taskforce Pacific Northwest Region - Vancouver, WA Voice - 360.891.5024 | Fax - 360.891.5045 Email - dlapcew...@fs.fed.us The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine. -- Ben Franklin, 1706-1790 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables
Tables are used to present data. So I think it makes perfect sense to simply put the data in the cells, and not wrap them in p tags. Would there be a reason to have a table of paragraphs? Dan Freeman e-Commerce Manager 800.650.6506 (TOLL FREE) 330.655.0341 (DIRECT) www.lexi.com http://www.lexi.com/ lexicomp-email-sig From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Lapcewich, Dennis Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:58 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables Folks, I'm seeking some best practices advice. Is it a best practice to wrap content in a table cell using p tags? Or just properly code the td and/or th tags? We have a couple of schools of thought raging at the moment and I've been tasked to seek the wisdom of others. Dennis Dennis Lapcewich US Forest Service Webmaster DRM Civil Rights POC / USFS 508 Taskforce Pacific Northwest Region - Vancouver, WA Voice - 360.891.5024 | Fax - 360.891.5045 Email - dlapcew...@fs.fed.us The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine. -- Ben Franklin, 1706-1790 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** LEXI-COMP CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information in this electronic mail is intended for the named recipients only. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended receiver is prohibited. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this electronic e-mail or by calling 330-650-6506. Please delete it from your computer. Thank you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***image001.gif
Re: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables
Wrapping table cell content in a p tag adds unneccessary padding and code. Unless you have a good reason, such as multiple paragraphs within a table cell, I would avoid the extra code. If you have multiple paragraphs, then you might want to adjust the css so you don't have extra space (the table cell padding in addition to the paragraph padding). Debbie Johnson Quoting Lapcewich, Dennis dlapcew...@fs.fed.us: Folks, I'm seeking some best practices advice. Is it a best practice to wrap content in a table cell using p tags? Or just properly code the td and/or th tags? We have a couple of schools of thought raging at the moment and I've been tasked to seek the wisdom of others. Dennis Dennis Lapcewich US Forest Service Webmaster DRM Civil Rights POC / USFS 508 Taskforce Pacific Northwest Region - Vancouver, WA Voice - 360.891.5024 | Fax - 360.891.5045 Email - dlapcew...@fs.fed.us The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine. -- Ben Franklin, 1706-1790 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables
Return Receipt Your [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables document: wasKaren Conyers/ACT/IMMI/AU received by: at:13/10/2011 07:54:29 AM Important Notice: If you have received this email by mistake, please advise the sender and delete the message and attachments immediately. This email, including attachments, may contain confidential, sensitive, legally privileged and/or copyright information. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. DIAC respects your privacy and has obligations under the Privacy Act 1988. The official departmental privacy policy can be viewed on the department's website at www.immi.gov.au. See: http://www.immi.gov.au/functional/privacy.htm - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables
On 10/12/11 12:58 PM, Lapcewich, Dennis wrote: Is it a best practice to wrap content in a table cell using p tags? I'd say no, never. Each cell should contain exactly what's contained in the corresponding DB field. If it's text, it might well *contain* paragraph tags, or not. If it's a string, it *might* be wrapped in a span, though probably not. Regardless, there's no reason to include arbitrary formatting that's irrelevant/orthogonal to the datatypes. And if the data isn't coming from a database, either it shouldn't be in a table or you should be writing the markup as if it were. IMO. YMMV :-) -- Hassan Schroeder - has...@webtuitive.com webtuitive design === (+1) 408-621-3445 === http://webtuitive.com http://about.me/hassanschroeder twitter: @hassan dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
