[WSG] Fonts and Jaws Real querky
hi. well. why is jaws say in firefox, not reading the font alignment, and also in the footer of my site. it does not read the font name, in internet explorer. is jaws being querky? i have totally rebuilt and edited my site. so will be uploading tomorrow. also, in one of my pages, my site map page, there are double bullets. how to only have one lot of bullets. and also does it look okay, to those who have some sight. does the lists look okay, the colours look okay, it looks fine, from a visual stand point. and also is my information correct about occupational health and safety policies in australia, and also my technology page is accurate. so, any feedbac, would be fine, once i upload tomorrow. Marvin. Join My Blind-Aid group at : http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/Blind-Aid To join this group , send a blank message to: blind-aid-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -- Join My Blind-Aid group at : http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/Blind-Aid To join this group , send a blank message to: blind-aid-subscr...@yahoogroups.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Fonts in MS Publisher compared to online
Sorry for asking, but does any one else think this thread is a webstandards topic? I.e. How a font in Microsoft Publisher displays? I'm having issues with IE7 crashing. Is that a web standards issue list topic too??? Just a long day, a bit jaded, and not happy wading through a pile of display is not what I wanted type emails, especially ones based around a Microsoft product. It's the web. This is a web standards list. It's not the magazine typography list. Just annoyed. And tired. Chris Sent from my iPhone On 14/09/2010, at 7:18 PM, Lyn Smith l...@westernwebdesign.com.au wrote: I have a client who is very precise in what he wants. He sent me a draft in Publisher which I transformed into a website. The font for the header text (site title) is Times New Roman. The problem is that it looks completely different online to what it does in Publisher. Publisher renders it very narrow. Online it looks chunkier even though it is just normal weight, not bold. It is 2.5ems - I tried reducing the size but it did not reduce the chunkiness. According to Publisher, the style is Normal, 10pt, Main(Black), Kerning 14pt,Left, Line Spacing 1sp. As far as I can see, there is nothing wrong with the way it looks online at all - but it is not what he wants. He wants narrow. Is there a way of making the font narrower - short of making it an image - or is there an explanation I can give him of why it looks different online? Thanks. -- Lyn Smith www.westernwebdesign.com.au Affordable website design Perth WA *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Fonts in MS Publisher compared to online
I have a client who is very precise in what he wants. He sent me a draft in Publisher which I transformed into a website. The font for the header text (site title) is Times New Roman. The problem is that it looks completely different online to what it does in Publisher. Publisher renders it very narrow. Online it looks chunkier even though it is just normal weight, not bold. It is 2.5ems - I tried reducing the size but it did not reduce the chunkiness. According to Publisher, the style is Normal, 10pt, Main(Black), Kerning 14pt,Left, Line Spacing 1sp. As far as I can see, there is nothing wrong with the way it looks online at all - but it is not what he wants. He wants narrow. Is there a way of making the font narrower - short of making it an image - or is there an explanation I can give him of why it looks different online? Thanks. -- Lyn Smith www.westernwebdesign.com.au Affordable website design Perth WA *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Fonts in MS Publisher compared to online
google for font-weight, line-height and letter-spacing Note that font-weight wont always reduce the line width. You could also try embedding a font. Hope this helps, Mathew Robertson On 14 September 2010 19:18, Lyn Smith l...@westernwebdesign.com.au wrote: I have a client who is very precise in what he wants. He sent me a draft in Publisher which I transformed into a website. The font for the header text (site title) is Times New Roman. The problem is that it looks completely different online to what it does in Publisher. Publisher renders it very narrow. Online it looks chunkier even though it is just normal weight, not bold. It is 2.5ems - I tried reducing the size but it did not reduce the chunkiness. According to Publisher, the style is Normal, 10pt, Main(Black), Kerning 14pt,Left, Line Spacing 1sp. As far as I can see, there is nothing wrong with the way it looks online at all - but it is not what he wants. He wants narrow. Is there a way of making the font narrower - short of making it an image - or is there an explanation I can give him of why it looks different online? Thanks. -- Lyn Smith www.westernwebdesign.com.au Affordable website design Perth WA *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Fonts in MS Publisher compared to online
How did you transform it to a web page? You have to be very precise on how you do this. Also it varies from version to versionwhat version of publisher are you using? Are you publishing it, saving it as an mht or saving it as a web page (html) ? -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Lyn Smith Sent: 14 September 2010 10:19 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Fonts in MS Publisher compared to online I have a client who is very precise in what he wants. He sent me a draft in Publisher which I transformed into a website. The font for the header text (site title) is Times New Roman. The problem is that it looks completely different online to what it does in Publisher. Publisher renders it very narrow. Online it looks chunkier even though it is just normal weight, not bold. It is 2.5ems - I tried reducing the size but it did not reduce the chunkiness. According to Publisher, the style is Normal, 10pt, Main(Black), Kerning 14pt,Left, Line Spacing 1sp. As far as I can see, there is nothing wrong with the way it looks online at all - but it is not what he wants. He wants narrow. Is there a way of making the font narrower - short of making it an image - or is there an explanation I can give him of why it looks different online? Thanks. -- Lyn Smith www.westernwebdesign.com.au Affordable website design Perth WA *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Fonts in MS Publisher compared to online
Is the font in an h tag? If so are you specifying font-weight: normal? If it's part of the logo, and it has to be spot-on, then an image may be your only option. Henrik Madsen +61 08 9387 1250 hen...@igenerator.com.au www.igenerator.com.au On 14/09/2010, at 5:18 PM, Lyn Smith wrote: I have a client who is very precise in what he wants. He sent me a draft in Publisher which I transformed into a website. The font for the header text (site title) is Times New Roman. The problem is that it looks completely different online to what it does in Publisher. Publisher renders it very narrow. Online it looks chunkier even though it is just normal weight, not bold. It is 2.5ems - I tried reducing the size but it did not reduce the chunkiness. According to Publisher, the style is Normal, 10pt, Main(Black), Kerning 14pt,Left, Line Spacing 1sp. As far as I can see, there is nothing wrong with the way it looks online at all - but it is not what he wants. He wants narrow. Is there a way of making the font narrower - short of making it an image - or is there an explanation I can give him of why it looks different online? Thanks. -- Lyn Smith www.westernwebdesign.com.au Affordable website design Perth WA *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Fonts in MS Publisher compared to online
Hi David How did you transform it to a web page? You have to be very precise on how you do this. Sorry, no, I didn't transform it. I mean I designed a site based on his design. -- Lyn Smith www.westernwebdesign.com.au Affordable website design Perth WA *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Fonts in MS Publisher compared to online
Is the font in an h tag? Yes, Henrik - this turned out to be the issue - when I made it a p tag, it became as he wanted - much narrower -- Lyn Smith www.westernwebdesign.com.au Affordable website design Perth WA *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Fonts in MS Publisher compared to online
Aah I see. I had a customer who presented the same problems... Try using the publish as html and let me know how it goes -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Lyn Smith Sent: 14 September 2010 11:40 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Fonts in MS Publisher compared to online Hi David How did you transform it to a web page? You have to be very precise on how you do this. Sorry, no, I didn't transform it. I mean I designed a site based on his design. -- Lyn Smith www.westernwebdesign.com.au Affordable website design Perth WA *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] fonts
Marvin, You don't need to have Arial on your PC to use it in your work. Others should have to have it, or any fallback you declare in your stylesheet. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On 2/1/10 11:28 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: hi. i have verdana. and it reads the name. but only have got Arial Blakc. not just plain Arial what is the correct name for Arial Black. or where can i download the Arial font. marvin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] fonts
hi. so the font for my style sheet. is it coded correctly. just that have b een off line for the past few days. had a faulty power pack for my toshiba and had to order one and got it today in australia. a toshiba power pack. now, so do i put say verdana for my body and arial for headings, links, etc. marvin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] fonts
On 1 Feb 2010, at 09:01, Marvin Hunkin wrote: so the font for my style sheet. is it coded correctly. We have no way of knowing. now, so do i put say verdana for my body and arial for headings, links, etc. The choice of fonts, especially a choice between two sans-serif fonts, is largely a matter of aesthetics. That said, changing fonts mid-line (and as links are inline elements, this is probably what you are suggesting) is generally a bad idea. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] fonts
Yes Marvin, That combination is fine. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On 2/1/10 4:01 AM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: hi. so the font for my style sheet. is it coded correctly. just that have b een off line for the past few days. had a faulty power pack for my toshiba and had to order one and got it today in australia. a toshiba power pack. now, so do i put say verdana for my body and arial for headings, links, etc. marvin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] fonts
hi. i have verdana. and it reads the name. but only have got Arial Blakc. not just plain Arial what is the correct name for Arial Black. or where can i download the Arial font. marvin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] fonts
Hi Marvin You're not stating the fonts for you, but for the people who read your website. That's why you usually declare 2-3 fonts, so if they don't have the first one on their computer, it will go to the second. So you don't need to download anything. And they (your audience) shouldn't need to either ... :) Cheers susie On 2/02/10 2:28 PM, Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com wrote: hi. i have verdana. and it reads the name. but only have got Arial Blakc. not just plain Arial what is the correct name for Arial Black. or where can i download the Arial font. marvin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] fonts
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:29 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] fonts hi. i have verdana. and it reads the name. but only have got Arial Blakc. not just plain Arial what is the correct name for Arial Black. or where can i download the Arial font. Hi Marvin, Font names with whitespace needs to be between quotes, so for Arial Black, you'd use: Arial Black -- Regards, Thierry | www.tjkdesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] fonts problems
Could you provide us with a little more information? Perhaps a snippet from the HTML file where you include the style sheet and a snippet from the style sheet where you're setting the font? We can probably help you out from there. I'm not totally sure what you mean by insert f On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.comwrote: hi. just opened a web project i did about 18 months for one of my web design courses and changes the content on one page. got a style sheet called Joes_Style.css in a folder called Styles. but when i do a insert f it does not say the font, just the font size and the alignment. using internet explorer 8. have i got my style sheet placement in the wrong place. or is this the default for internet explorer 8. please help me out. real weird. cheers Marvin. ps: the fonts i used are verdana, which i have, arial, sans-serif, helvitica . but have not got those fonts except for verdana, but not showing up in the fonts on my machine. where can i get the other fonts? E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com Msn: startrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe Visit my Jaws Australia Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/JawsOz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] fonts problems
With the exception of the missing graphics, everything looks OK to me in IE8. Like Matijs, I’m not sure what “insert f” means. Are you trying to edit your style sheet? Oh wait, I found a problem. You forgot to fold the eggs back in to your vegetable fried rice grin From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Matijs Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:28 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] fonts problems Could you provide us with a little more information? Perhaps a snippet from the HTML file where you include the style sheet and a snippet from the style sheet where you're setting the font? We can probably help you out from there. I'm not totally sure what you mean by insert f On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com wrote: hi. just opened a web project i did about 18 months for one of my web design courses and changes the content on one page. got a style sheet called Joes_Style.css in a folder called Styles. but when i do a insert f it does not say the font, just the font size and the alignment. using internet explorer 8. have i got my style sheet placement in the wrong place. or is this the default for internet explorer 8. please help me out. real weird. cheers Marvin. ps: the fonts i used are verdana, which i have, arial, sans-serif, helvitica . but have not got those fonts except for verdana, but not showing up in the fonts on my machine. where can i get the other fonts? E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com Msn: startrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe Visit my Jaws Australia Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/JawsOz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] fonts problems
Oops I replied too soon; there are a couple of errors in your stylesheet. In the body section, line 7, the font-family tag should read: font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; You left the dash out of the san-serif. I’m not sure if the font order matters. These fonts should be on your computer, unless they have removed them in Vista. Anybody using Vista that can verify this? There is also an invalid color code in the a:visited section, line 21. Should be six characters, not five. Hope this helps From: Steve Eagleson [mailto:zen27...@zen.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 2:23 PM To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' Subject: RE: [WSG] fonts problems With the exception of the missing graphics, everything looks OK to me in IE8. Like Matijs, I’m not sure what “insert f” means. Are you trying to edit your style sheet? Oh wait, I found a problem. You forgot to fold the eggs back in to your vegetable fried rice grin From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Matijs Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:28 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] fonts problems Could you provide us with a little more information? Perhaps a snippet from the HTML file where you include the style sheet and a snippet from the style sheet where you're setting the font? We can probably help you out from there. I'm not totally sure what you mean by insert f On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com wrote: hi. just opened a web project i did about 18 months for one of my web design courses and changes the content on one page. got a style sheet called Joes_Style.css in a folder called Styles. but when i do a insert f it does not say the font, just the font size and the alignment. using internet explorer 8. have i got my style sheet placement in the wrong place. or is this the default for internet explorer 8. please help me out. real weird. cheers Marvin. ps: the fonts i used are verdana, which i have, arial, sans-serif, helvitica . but have not got those fonts except for verdana, but not showing up in the fonts on my machine. where can i get the other fonts? E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com Msn: startrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe Visit my Jaws Australia Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/JawsOz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] fonts problems
Marvin, OK, so Insert-F appears to be a JAWS command for SAY FONT, and should say the font name at the cursor out loud. Apparently it could not resolve the name given the stylesheet error that I pointed out previously. Did fixing the font-family tag fix the JAWS problem? From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Steve Eagleson Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 2:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] fonts problems With the exception of the missing graphics, everything looks OK to me in IE8. Like Matijs, I’m not sure what “insert f” means. Are you trying to edit your style sheet? Oh wait, I found a problem. You forgot to fold the eggs back in to your vegetable fried rice grin From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Matijs Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:28 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] fonts problems Could you provide us with a little more information? Perhaps a snippet from the HTML file where you include the style sheet and a snippet from the style sheet where you're setting the font? We can probably help you out from there. I'm not totally sure what you mean by insert f On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com wrote: hi. just opened a web project i did about 18 months for one of my web design courses and changes the content on one page. got a style sheet called Joes_Style.css in a folder called Styles. but when i do a insert f it does not say the font, just the font size and the alignment. using internet explorer 8. have i got my style sheet placement in the wrong place. or is this the default for internet explorer 8. please help me out. real weird. cheers Marvin. ps: the fonts i used are verdana, which i have, arial, sans-serif, helvitica . but have not got those fonts except for verdana, but not showing up in the fonts on my machine. where can i get the other fonts? E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com Msn: startrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe Visit my Jaws Australia Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/JawsOz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] fonts problems
hi. just opened a web project i did about 18 months for one of my web design courses and changes the content on one page. got a style sheet called Joes_Style.css in a folder called Styles. but when i do a insert f it does not say the font, just the font size and the alignment. using internet explorer 8. have i got my style sheet placement in the wrong place. or is this the default for internet explorer 8. please help me out. real weird. cheers Marvin. ps: the fonts i used are verdana, which i have, arial, sans-serif, helvitica . but have not got those fonts except for verdana, but not showing up in the fonts on my machine. where can i get the other fonts? E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com Msn: startrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe Visit my Jaws Australia Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/JawsOz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Fonts
On 17/12/2008, at 3:43 PM, Conyers, Dwayne wrote:
Marvin Hunkin [startrekc...@gmail.com] ink wired:
why and how can i display the other fonts on my site?
Are you using font face=foo tags in your HTML code? Then, those
fonts should appear *unless* they are not on your (or the people
surfing to your web site) system.
If you want to embed fonts that others may not have, Google terms
like “free fonts” or “downloadable fonts” (check to make sure they
can be embedded) and then embed the font with code like this:
STYLE TYPE=text/css
--!
@font-face {
font-family: Arial;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: normal;
src:url(http://www.foobar.com/EOTfileName.eot);
}
--
/STYLE
For which one needs WEFT, Windows and licensing permissions to embed
the font. I’d suggest you link additional fonts if they are central to
your design and are not web core fonts as linked OTF files—no
converting to EOT necessary. Note EOT is currently only supported by
IE whilst OTF linking is supported in latest Safari as well as Firefox
(and Opera IIRC) devel. versions. There are a number of great free
fonts available for linking listed at http://www.webfonts.info/wiki/index.php?title=Fonts_available_for_%40font-face_embedding
Ultimately, you’re best off sticking to the web core fonts. To blow
some life back into them and make them look a bit merrier than the
boring reputation many give them play with styling like font-variant
for small-caps, letter-spacing, font-style for the italic and various
sizes and colours. (:
—Pascal
Hope that helps.
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Re: [WSG] Fonts
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On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Simon Pascal Klein kle...@klepas.orgwrote:
On 17/12/2008, at 3:43 PM, Conyers, Dwayne wrote:
Marvin Hunkin [startrekc...@gmail.com] ink wired:
why and how can i display the other fonts on my site?
Are you using font face=foo tags in your HTML code? Then, those fonts
should appear *unless* they are not on your (or the people surfing to your
web site) system.
If you want to embed fonts that others may not have, Google terms like
free fonts or downloadable fonts (check to make sure they can be
embedded) and then embed the font with code like this:
STYLE TYPE=text/css
--!
@font-face {
font-family: Arial;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: normal;
src:url(http://www.foobar.com/EOTfileName.eot);
}
--
/STYLE
For which one needs WEFT, Windows and licensing permissions to embed the
font. I'd suggest you link additional fonts if they are central to your
design and are not web core fonts as linked OTF files—no converting to EOT
necessary. Note EOT is currently only supported by IE whilst OTF linking is
supported in latest Safari as well as Firefox (and Opera IIRC) devel.
versions. There are a number of great free fonts available for linking
listed at
http://www.webfonts.info/wiki/index.php?title=Fonts_available_for_%40font-face_embedding
Ultimately, you're best off sticking to the web core fonts. To blow some
life back into them and make them look a bit merrier than the boring
reputation many give them play with styling like font-variant for
small-caps, letter-spacing, font-style for the italic and various sizes and
colours. (:
—Pascal
Hope that helps.
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RE: [WSG] Fonts
Hi All, Thanks for all the help and advice over the past year. Have a great Christmas and all the best for 2009! Cheers, Lev From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Luke Hoggett Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2008 5:17 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Fonts Hi, Do you have the fonts on your computer? You don't give us enough information to answer your question. What type of computer are you using? also google is you friend, this isn't really a help-list List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm cheers L Marvin Hunkin wrote: Hi. got a site i am developing on my local hard disk. and got the following fonts in the css, Arial, Century School book, Georgia, comic sams, and also need the fonts which i have not got western and system. now just had a look at my page, and some o ff my pages, and only showing school book century? why and how can i display the other fonts on my site? and if i have not got them, how can i get them? really strange and annoying. can anyone help. cheers Marvin. ps: and yeah, also want to use verdanna as well. E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Fonts
Marvin Hunkin [startrekc...@gmail.com] ink wired:
why and how can i display the other fonts on my site?
Are you using font face=foo tags in your HTML code? Then, those fonts
should appear *unless* they are not on your (or the people surfing to your web
site) system.
If you want to embed fonts that others may not have, Google terms like “free
fonts” or “downloadable fonts” (check to make sure they can be embedded) and
then embed the font with code like this:
STYLE TYPE=text/css
--!
@font-face {
font-family: Arial;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: normal;
src:url(http://www.foobar.com/EOTfileName.eot);
}
--
/STYLE
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Re: [WSG] Fonts
Hi, Do you have the fonts on your computer? You don't give us enough information to answer your question. What type of computer are you using? also google is you friend, this isn't really a help-list List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm cheers L Marvin Hunkin wrote: Hi. got a site i am developing on my local hard disk. and got the following fonts in the css, Arial, Century School book, Georgia, comic sams, and also need the fonts which i have not got western and system. now just had a look at my page, and some o ff my pages, and only showing school book century? why and how can i display the other fonts on my site? and if i have not got them, how can i get them? really strange and annoying. can anyone help. cheers Marvin. ps: and yeah, also want to use verdanna as well. E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] fonts
Some time back I used to add a font sizer to my site as a trial. Font + - Perhaps it isn't a bad idea. I used to have that specifically for the article text, and scaled down for menus. Then I could go back to using fixed fonts, and if someone cannot read 12px text-make it bigger at a click from the page instead of having the hassle of changing it in ie. What's wrong with that really? Bruce www.bkdesign.ca ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] fonts
Bruce wrote: Some time back I used to add a font sizer to my site as a trial. Font + - Perhaps it isn't a bad idea. I used to have that specifically for the article text, and scaled down for menus. Then I could go back to using fixed fonts, and if someone cannot read 12px text-make it bigger at a click from the page instead of having the hassle of changing it in ie. What's wrong with that really? If they aren't using a browser with zoom or minimum font size they know how to use, they have to be able to: 1-see it; 2-understand what to do with it; 3- be willing to use it. Just because you can see it and understand what to do with it doesn't mean they are both able and willing. If I had to use IE, I'd just leave. Or maybe if it was a site required to adhere to usability regulations, I'd complain to the regulators. -- The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] fonts
Bruce wrote: Some time back I used to add a font sizer to my site as a trial. Font + - Perhaps it isn't a bad idea. The problem with custom font sizers is that they only apply to that particular site. I used to have that specifically for the article text, and scaled down for menus. Then I could go back to using fixed fonts, and if someone cannot read 12px text-make it bigger at a click from the page instead of having the hassle of changing it in ie. As pointed out before, it's not really a hassle with the quick CTRL+MOUSE WHEEL shortcut. So, it's not a bad idea as such, just unnecessary (plus all the points that Felix mentions in his reply, of course) -- Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] fonts
G'day The problem with custom font sizers is that they only apply to that particular site. And it only applies to one page (without resorting to the use of cookies, javascript, server side technology etc to remember the user's preference). Luckily I am one of the few older guys with poor eyesight who have discovered there are browsers other than IE. My $0.02 Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] fonts
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 02:37:24 +, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with custom font sizers is that they only apply to that particular site. This is very true, so users should figure where it is, what it is (at least how to use it is prety obvious). On the other hand the same very fact that they apply to that particular site is a good thing: this won't interfere other sites you read. Being in the sight of user such control also has slightly better chances being discovered than any other options. But once user knows how to operate ctrl+mousewheel or ctrl +/-/0 s/he will try to use that option first. If you go as far as making cutom font-size control then you may as well go all the way and avoid using pixels AND having your font-control (maybe with some cookie baking to keep preffered setting). ... Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Fonts size problem
Hi All I've problems with font sizes. I'm developing a web page using em to define font sizes. When I see the page in Firefox or Mozilla, size it's ok for me. But when I see the same page with IE, fonts appear so small... How could I make fonts appear in the same size (or at least, something similar) in IE and Firefox ? Thanks in advance Javier ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Fonts size problem
Javier wrote: Hi All I've problems with font sizes. I'm developing a web page using em to define font sizes. When I see the page in Firefox or Mozilla, size it's ok for me. But when I see the same page with IE, fonts appear so small... How could I make fonts appear in the same size (or at least, something similar) in IE and Firefox ? Thanks in advance Javier ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** I did have lots of trouble with the various sizes when starting out with ems, I found http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/typography/incremental_differences.html to be a lot of help. Using the ideas from here I generally size the text at 76% for the body then adjust the other rules as necessary. Its not exact but its pretty close. I hope this is some help. --Ryan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Fonts size problem
Javier wrote: I'm developing a web page using em to define font sizes. When I see the page in Firefox or Mozilla, size it's ok for me. But when I see the same page with IE, fonts appear so small... How could I make fonts appear in the same size (or at least, something similar) in IE and Firefox ? Does your IE have the font resizer set to something smaller than medium? Check out http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UsingEms and http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/defaultsize.html -- Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof... U.S. Constitution, Amendment 1 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
