Re: [WSG] id or class on html or body

2004-07-09 Thread Neerav
The id is in the body tag
I first heard of the idea from Pete who works at Fairfax Digital, his 
presentation as a PDF from the June Sydney WSG meet is somewhere in the 
WSG resources section

I have implemented the idea at a group of sites for a client where the 
navigation and layout are all the same, but they wanted the sites to 
have different colour schemes eg:

http://www.heatstress.info/  - example of red
http://www.collovet.com.au/ - example of blue
http://www.algae.info/ - example of green
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Mordechai Peller wrote:
Putting an id or class on the html or body tags is a useful way of 
targeting slight variations in style rules with resorting to a second 
style sheet.

I remember seeing a discussion of the pros and cons, but I can't 
remember where. Does anybody have a link? Or perhaps the discussion can 
begin anew.

Thanks
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RE: [WSG] id or class on html or body

2004-07-09 Thread Patrick Lauke
Keep in mind that you can't have id or class attributes on the HTML
element (not in xhtml, nor html4). Apply them to the BODY instead.

Patrick

Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
http://www.salford.ac.uk

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 Putting an id or class on the html or body tags is a useful way of 
 targeting slight variations in style rules with resorting to a second 
 style sheet.
 
 I remember seeing a discussion of the pros and cons, but I can't 
 remember where. Does anybody have a link? Or perhaps the 
 discussion can 
 begin anew.
 
 Thanks.
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Re: [WSG] id or class on html or body

2004-07-09 Thread Chris Blown
CSS signatures ?

Here http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/13291

On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 17:55, Mordechai Peller wrote:
 Putting an id or class on the html or body tags is a useful way of 
 targeting slight variations in style rules with resorting to a second 
 style sheet.
 
 I remember seeing a discussion of the pros and cons, but I can't 
 remember where. Does anybody have a link? Or perhaps the discussion can 
 begin anew.
 
 Thanks.
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Re: [WSG] id or class on html or body

2004-07-09 Thread Mordechai Peller
Patrick Lauke wrote:
Keep in mind that you can't have id or class attributes on the HTML
element (not in xhtml, nor html4). Apply them to the BODY instead.
 

I checked, and your right, but since body can take both, that's the way 
to go.

However, validity was only a minor part of my question, since I knew it 
could be done (though I was wrong about the html). My main question was 
(if you'll pardon the pun) is it good style to do so just to get the 
correct behavior from a menu, since, after all, I'm not using them to 
style the body at all (although I suppose I could).
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Re: [WSG] id or class on html or body

2004-07-09 Thread Justin French
On 09/07/2004, at 5:55 PM, Mordechai Peller wrote:
Putting an id or class on the html or body tags is a useful way of 
targeting slight variations in style rules with resorting to a second 
style sheet.

I remember seeing a discussion of the pros and cons, but I can't 
remember where. Does anybody have a link? Or perhaps the discussion 
can begin anew.
I use id and class attributes on the body all the time.  I don't really 
like using them for something like body id='3-col-red' because that's 
a presentational thing (IMHO), but I do use it for something like body 
id='home', in which case I can target elements on #home separately to 
those on #about or #forum, which allows drastically different styling 
for each page.

For me, it's a way of keeping my ids and classes as generic and minimal 
as possible, but still only using one stylesheet.

The alternative (for my uses) is to have many stylesheets for each 
section, but this is an absolute pain, unless there are heaps of 
styles, in which case smaller stylesheets on deman seems much smarter.

I know others use them to:
- identify the domain (so others can easily override the
  stylesheets with a single user style sheet), but I *really*
  question how many people would bother to do this.
  eg body id='www-meyerweb-com'
  see http://www.meyerweb.com/
- trigger different layouts
  eg body id='col-SMX'
  see http://www.adaptivepath.com/
- trigger active and inactive tabs on a menu navigation
  (can't think of an example)
Hope this gives you an idea or two :)
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http://indent.com.au
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Re: [WSG] id or class on html or body

2004-07-09 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On Saturday, Jul 10, 2004, at 02:37 Australia/Sydney, Justin French 
wrote:

- trigger active and inactive tabs on a menu navigation
  (can't think of an example)
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors2/
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