Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.7.1 r8164

2017-10-13 Thread Dan Malcolm
Thanks Joe.  That's what I suspected, but its better coming from someone who
actually knows.

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-Original Message-
From: Joe Taylor [mailto:j...@princeton.edu] 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 10:51 AM
To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.7.1 r8164

Hi Dan,

> I also have a question.  The FMT analysis program initially had an 
> error and referred to bad data.  The online manual does say to edit 
> the fmt.all file and remove bad data.  I did that and the analysis ran 
> without error.  I made a judgement call as to what constitutes “bad 
> data”, in this case anything more than 1.9 deviation was bad.  Is 
> there a better rule of thumb for “bad data”?

Happy to hear that you like the new capabilities for Frequency Calibration.

As for removing "bad data" from the file fmt.all: with a bit of accumulated
experience, your own judgment will continue to be the best guideline.

Data in the file look something like this (I have added the headings and
separator line):

   UTC  Freq CAL Offset  fMeas   DFLevel   S/N
   (kHz)  ?  (Hz) (Hz)  (Hz)(dB)   (dB)
--
14:35:09660  1  1500  1500.890 0.890  -11.6   19.2  *
14:35:11660  1  1500  1500.861 0.861  -16.4   39.7
14:35:13660  1  1500  1500.859 0.859  -18.7   42.2

For each calibration-station frequency "Freq" (here 660 kHz), the measured
audio frequencies "fMeas" and frequency offsets "DF" will typically agree to
within 1 Hz or better -- usually *much* better. 
Delete any outliers.  Measurements with estimated S/N less than 20 dB will
be flagged with an asterisk.  These are worth examining individually,
because they might be bad.  The one flagged above is OK.

-- 73, Joe, K1JT


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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.7.1 r8164

2017-10-13 Thread Joe Taylor

Hi Dan,

I also have a question.  The FMT analysis program initially had an error 
and referred to bad data.  The online manual does say to edit the 
fmt.all file and remove bad data.  I did that and the analysis ran 
without error.  I made a judgement call as to what constitutes “bad 
data”, in this case anything more than 1.9 deviation was bad.  Is there 
a better rule of thumb for “bad data”?


Happy to hear that you like the new capabilities for Frequency Calibration.

As for removing "bad data" from the file fmt.all: with a bit of 
accumulated experience, your own judgment will continue to be the best 
guideline.


Data in the file look something like this (I have added the headings and 
separator line):


  UTC  Freq CAL Offset  fMeas   DFLevel   S/N
  (kHz)  ?  (Hz) (Hz)  (Hz)(dB)   (dB)
--
14:35:09660  1  1500  1500.890 0.890  -11.6   19.2  *
14:35:11660  1  1500  1500.861 0.861  -16.4   39.7
14:35:13660  1  1500  1500.859 0.859  -18.7   42.2

For each calibration-station frequency "Freq" (here 660 kHz), the 
measured audio frequencies "fMeas" and frequency offsets "DF" will 
typically agree to within 1 Hz or better -- usually *much* better. 
Delete any outliers.  Measurements with estimated S/N less than 20 dB 
will be flagged with an asterisk.  These are worth examining 
individually, because they might be bad.  The one flagged above is OK.


-- 73, Joe, K1JT

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[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.7.1 r8164

2017-10-12 Thread Dan Malcolm
I just ran the new FMT in WSJT-X.  I like this better than the old way.  I do 
have one observation though.  The tooltip for slope and intercept refers reader 
to the WSPR documentation and it should reference section 13.  The correction 
should be made, but can be done the next time one of the developers is in the 
mood for documentation duty.

I also have a question.  The FMT analysis program initially had an error and 
referred to bad data.  The online manual does say to edit the fmt.all file and 
remove bad data.  I did that and the analysis ran without error.  I made a 
judgement call as to what constitutes “bad data”, in this case anything more 
than 1.9 deviation was bad.  Is there a better rule of thumb for “bad data”?

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