Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx
oh yeah, got the source for svgatextmode, but haven't tried it yet, though sounds promising. On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 05:24 PM, Rich Johnson wrote: gabe-- It's a shot it the dark, but...check to see if your kernel has Radeon display support enabled. I encountered the same symptoms running a distribution kernel (Debian Woody) with a FireGL 1000 Pro Card. In my case all the virtual consoles went away when _entering_ X with startx. But that wasn't apparent until you exited X. I built a new kernel with the correct options and, _voila_, the problem went away. Also, a good reference is: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 01:04 PM, gabebf wrote: I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 4.3.0 from startx, and works fine, but on exit, I don't have a screen, but i can type shutdown -r now, blindly, and it works. What is it? I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15. gabe ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 __ Ode On A Sugar Sweet LAN I love my 'pooters, and my 'pooters love me. We're just a big digital family. Me and my 'pooters, we get along fine. I'm super tickled, my 'pooters are mine. __ ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] How to install XFree 4.3.0 on OpenBSD 3.3?
are you having problems with the documentation supplied with xfree86 4.3? On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 10:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pls. read the Subject. Thanks :o) Sebastian ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 __ Ode On A Sugar Sweet LAN I love my 'pooters, and my 'pooters love me. We're just a big digital family. Me and my 'pooters, we get along fine. I'm super tickled, my 'pooters are mine. __ ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx
Well, it was working with the ati driver in 4.2.x that came with OpenBSD 3.2 (should have mentioned the OS). Thanks, though. Actually, the only reason I went to the trouble of installing 4.3.0 was to fix this ghosting/blurring/echoing artifact, which had nothing to do with the drivers - it was my multiple vga cable connections. I can live with it, though, if I don't want X running (and want the console), rebooting isn't a problem. Really no big deal. Thanks everyone. On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 05:24 PM, Rich Johnson wrote: gabe-- It's a shot it the dark, but...check to see if your kernel has Radeon display support enabled. I encountered the same symptoms running a distribution kernel (Debian Woody) with a FireGL 1000 Pro Card. In my case all the virtual consoles went away when _entering_ X with startx. But that wasn't apparent until you exited X. I built a new kernel with the correct options and, _voila_, the problem went away. Also, a good reference is: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html __ Ode On A Sugar Sweet LAN I love my 'pooters, and my 'pooters love me. We're just a big digital family. Me and my 'pooters, we get along fine. I'm super tickled, my 'pooters are mine. __ ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx
On Sunday, July 13, 2003, at 11:13 PM, Andy Goth wrote: On Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:57 pm, gabe f wrote: reset must be a linux thing, or something. I can barely read it says something like delete is now backspace kill is now . interrupt but, didn't reset my screen. Thanks anyway. reset only attempts to clear your terminal and set it to a sane state. It doesn't actually fiddle with your graphics card. reset is good for fixing problems like having echo disabled, the wrong character set, vertical scrolling disabled, and so on---just logical terminal mis-settings. SVGATextMode, on the other hand, will reset your graphics card as well. Gvie that a try. I'm not sure what all platforms SVGATextMode works on, though. SVGATextMode is no where to be found on my OpenBSD file system. -- Andy Goth | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://ioioio.net/ End communication. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 _ Ode On A Sugar Sweet LAN I love my 'pooters, and my 'pooters love me. We're just a big digital family. Me and my 'pooters, we get along fine. I'm super tickled, my 'pooters are mine. __ ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx
reset must be a linux thing, or something. I can barely read it says something like delete is now backspace kill is now . interrupt but, didn't reset my screen. Thanks anyway. On Sunday, July 13, 2003, at 04:46 AM, Jarmo Paavilainen wrote: On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 01:39, gabe f wrote: I'm reposting this - no one knows what this is? I do not know what is causing it, nor how to fix it. Ive had similar trouble on some (older) Hercules cards, but a simple reset usually fixed that. Just type: reset enter when X has exited. It might give you a usefull terminal. // Jarmo I disabled dbe, but it didn't make any difference. It's like the text color is black, or something. I experienced text color being changed to blue for a while, then I changed XF86Config, and this started happening - maybe the config changes just changed the text color to a (much) darker blue? So, as a workaround, how do I change the text color in terminal mode? Also, I have no lilo, as I'm using OpenBSD 3.2. On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 06:20 PM, Ken Thompson wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:04 am, gabe f wrote: I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 4.3.0 from startx, and works fine, but on exit, I don't have a screen, but i can type shutdown -r now, blindly, and it works. What is it? I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15. gabe I have had this happen with various higher level video cards, nVIDIA Matrox etc. - what I have done to work around the problem is to not use framebuffer mode. Set lilo to vga=normal and you should get your term screen back. -- Ken Thompson WA7SYR Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 ... ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 _ Ode On A Sugar Sweet LAN I love my 'pooters, and my 'pooters love me. We're just a big digital family. Me and my 'pooters, we get along fine. I'm super tickled, my 'pooters are mine. __ ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Trident Cyberblade xp4m (toshiba tecra m1)
try removing the 1400x1050 mode from your monitor section, or put it after the 1024x768. On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 06:35 AM, Johannes Kuhn wrote: Hi After fiddling arround for quiet a while i could get the trident driver running, with my CyberBlade xp video card. I attached my XF86Config file. My Problem now is, that it seems that the driver does not care about the entered screen resolution ( i tried a few and they showed axactly the same behaviour). The screen always ist about 4 times bigger that my display is (by the way it is not scrolling around if i move the mouse). The propper resolution should be 1024x768. But no matter what i set i get the same results. Any help would be appreciated. Regards -- Johannes Kuhn e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:www.gruemelworld.de (under construction) icq#: 79218174 ~__ Freedom of Choice 'v' / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __ // \\/ /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ / /( )\ /_/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_/ /_/\_\ ^`~'^ __ XF86Configsignature.asc ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
[XFree86] command history among xterms
not sure if I should ask this here, but here goes: the command history among my xterms is common. How can I make each xterm keep its own command history? I create each xterm with xterm -e ksh -o emacs , if that's relevant. They have their own working directories! gabe ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] command history among xterms
thanks guys. the HISTFILE section sorted me out. (ksh, btw) gabe ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Problem with ATI Radeon 9000 and Proview LCD 15-inch 568/BMM568 monitor
holy smokes, we've got the psychic free86 network! On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 05:24 PM, SebEmi wrote: Hello, I yank the cable out my S-Video port and it works !!! Thanks a lot. - Original Message - From: Andy Goth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [XFree86] Problem with ATI Radeon 9000 and Proview LCD 15-inch 568/BMM568 monitor On Friday, July 11, 2003 4:00 am, Emilie et Sébastien WOLNIEWICZ wrote: Hello, I have a problem with XFree86 X server, I can't start xserver Video hardware : ATI Radeon 9000 Just the other day I was messing around with my ATI Radeon 7500's composite video output port. I never managed to get it working before, probably because I never tried before :^), but after connecting it to something else (in my case, a video capture card, ha ha) and rebooting, I got the same odd-looking error messages as you: (II) RADEON(0): Total number of valid DDC mode(s) found: 0 (WW) RADEON(0): Valid modes must be between 320x200-0x0 (II) RADEON(0): Total number of valid FP mode(s) found: 0 (EE) RADEON(0): No valid mode found for this DFP/LCD I don't fully understand it. Check that: I don't understand it at all. :^) What the hell kind of range is 320x200-0x0 anyhow? That's even worse than xvinfo's 'XV_COLORKEY (range 0 to -1)' which is might just be due to mismatched signededness somewhere. But you still might want to check to see if you have anything plugged into your composite or S-Video port. If so, yank the cable out, reboot, and try again. -- Andy Goth | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://ioioio.net/ End communication. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 _ Ode On A Sugar Sweet LAN I love my 'pooters, and my 'pooters love me. We're just a big digital family. Me and my 'pooters, we get along fine. I'm just tickled, my 'pooters are mine. __ ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx
I'm reposting this - no one knows what this is? I disabled dbe, but it didn't make any difference. It's like the text color is black, or something. I experienced text color being changed to blue for a while, then I changed XF86Config, and this started happening - maybe the config changes just changed the text color to a (much) darker blue? So, as a workaround, how do I change the text color in terminal mode? Also, I have no lilo, as I'm using OpenBSD 3.2. On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 06:20 PM, Ken Thompson wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:04 am, gabe f wrote: I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 4.3.0 from startx, and works fine, but on exit, I don't have a screen, but i can type shutdown -r now, blindly, and it works. What is it? I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15. gabe I have had this happen with various higher level video cards, nVIDIA Matrox etc. - what I have done to work around the problem is to not use framebuffer mode. Set lilo to vga=normal and you should get your term screen back. -- Ken Thompson WA7SYR Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 _ Ode On A Sugar Sweet LAN I love my 'pooters, and my 'pooters love me. We're just a big digital family. Me and my 'pooters, we get along fine. I'm super tickled, my 'pooters are mine. __ ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Re: Mailing list behaviour and etiquette, in general
Not advocating change, just criticizing something that essentially creates unnecessary traffic, like your criticism? On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 12:30 AM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 01:33:10AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: As such, it is extremely pointless to demand that a given list should change it's policy on this issue, regardless of what datapoints you'd like to raise. You won't raise even a single datapoint that the list maintainers, and the majority of subscribers are not already fully 100% aware of. They just disagree with you, and are not likely to change their line of thinking no matter how much you disagree or how big of a flamewar you'd like to make about it. The best you can do, is agree to disagree and then move on to another topic - or unsubscribe. Pretty sure that I did *not* advocate *this list* changing anything, Mike. Go re-check the thread. Was merely expressing an opinion. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$
sorry, posted this before reading all of the emails in my inbox :) On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 02:21 PM, gabe f wrote: maybe you've been on the list for a long time, but the list automatically gives you such info when you post to it for the first time. On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 08:21 AM, Egbert Eich wrote: David Dawes writes: If Joe Newuser has problems getting XFree86 to run he may send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (After all it is advertised all over to do so), but he doesn't subscribe to the list (It says nowhere that he should). ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx
also, I'm not using linux, OpenBSD 3.2 On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 06:20 PM, Ken Thompson wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:04 am, gabe f wrote: I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 4.3.0 from startx, and works fine, but on exit, I don't have a screen, but i can type shutdown -r now, blindly, and it works. What is it? I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15. gabe I have had this happen with various higher level video cards, nVIDIA Matrox etc. - what I have done to work around the problem is to not use framebuffer mode. Set lilo to vga=normal and you should get your term screen back. -- Ken Thompson WA7SYR Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
[XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx
I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 4.3.0 from startx, and works fine, but on exit, I don't have a screen, but i can type shutdown -r now, blindly, and it works. What is it? I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15. gabe ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx
I disabled dbe, but I can still just barely read the text when back in terminal mode. Like the text color is black, or something. I experienced text color being changed to blue for a while, then I changed XF86Config, and this started happening - maybe the config changes just changed the text color to a (much) darker blue? So, as a workaround, how do I change the text color in terminal mode? On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 06:20 PM, Ken Thompson wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:04 am, gabe f wrote: I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 4.3.0 from startx, and works fine, but on exit, I don't have a screen, but i can type shutdown -r now, blindly, and it works. What is it? I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15. gabe I have had this happen with various higher level video cards, nVIDIA Matrox etc. - what I have done to work around the problem is to not use framebuffer mode. Set lilo to vga=normal and you should get your term screen back. -- Ken Thompson WA7SYR Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] libXrender calling unfound symbol
Not sure what you mean. I don't have a reference to _XextFindDisplay in my libXrender.so.1.2, either. I think the stabs only contain symbols that it provides code for, not ones that are used by it's code. But, what file do I want to add the link to, I mean, what is the proper user config file to edit for the Xrender library? gabe On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 01:52 PM, Mark Vojkovich wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, gabe f wrote: where do I want to add it? -lXext on the link line. But I'm not sure that's your problem. I don't have a reference to _XextFindDisplay in my libXrender.so.1.2. There is, however, a XextFindDisplay. Maybe your libXrender.so.1.2 and libXext are mismatched? Mark. On Tuesday, July 8, 2003, at 08:38 PM, Mark Vojkovich wrote: On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, gabe f wrote: I believe this is an x problem, not an aterm problem, based on the x server error. I'm having a problem running aterm under 4.3.0. I recompiled aterm after installing 4.3.0, and reinstalled it. Now, when I run it I'm getting errors: /usr/libexec/ld.so: Undefined symbol _XextFindDisplay called from aterm:/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1.2 at 0x401e50dc Was I missing some library when I compiled xfree86 4.3.0? Any extensions require that libXext is linked in. Mark. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$
harmful in that it adds traffic to the list? I learn things by hearing replies that people might have (inadvertantly) made direct to the author. If the reply-to field was not munged people would have to choose to make the threads readable by the list ( like a news group). If they didn't think about it, or decided for some (shy/considerate) reason to make their responses not to the group, then we'd really miss out on a lot of knowledge. my 2 cents. On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 08:40 PM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 04:10:58PM -0600, Marc Aurele La France wrote: Hm, I don't know what you would call munging, it puts the list address into the Reply-To. Daniel is probably referring to: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html ... which expresses an opinion not that widely held. No, it's that widely held. Been on mailing lists since I had a bang path. It's harmful. Believe me. Cheers, -- ...!petsd!peora!usfbobo!usfvax2!jc3b21!jc3b22!jra -- Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the Technical Staff Baylink RFC 2100 The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Floridahttp://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows -- Simon Slavin, on a.f.c ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$
So then, why do you subscribe to the list, you could just read the emails on the website, thereby saving all of that internet traffic, by only viewing the email body text that appealed to you by its subject, and you wouldn't have to deal with those harmful vacation auto-replies, either? the internet has more than one field, by the way. I doubt you're in a personnel/user related area. On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 09:21 PM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: It's not my list. It *IS* probably a good idea to point out that the list does such munging at the point of signup, though. There have been divorces. No, I'm not kidding. ... Yeah, an X Window list is *not* all that likely to cause a divorce. :-) And actually, no, it's not an opinion; it's a cost benefit analysis. *I* make the costs much higher than the benefits, and *that* is an opinion. A professional opinion; yes, I *do* make a living at this Internet stuff. Cheers, -- jra ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
[XFree86] libXrender calling unfound symbol
I believe this is an x problem, not an aterm problem, based on the x server error. I'm having a problem running aterm under 4.3.0. I recompiled aterm after installing 4.3.0, and reinstalled it. Now, when I run it I'm getting errors: /usr/libexec/ld.so: Undefined symbol _XextFindDisplay called from aterm:/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1.2 at 0x401e50dc Was I missing some library when I compiled xfree86 4.3.0? thanks, gabe ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
[XFree86] (no subject)
Hi, I'm having a problem running aterm under 4.3.0. After I installed 4.3, i recompiled aterm, and reinstalled it. Now, when I run it I'm getting errors: /usr/libexec/ld.so: Undefined symbol _XextFindDisplay called from aterm:/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1.2 at 0x401e50dc Was I missing some library when I compiled xfree86 4.3.0? thanks, gabe ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
[XFree86] X visual artifact
(i'm reposting this, because I joined the list after submitting the post - don't know if it made it) Hi, My problem is that I have a kind of echoing/ghosting/shadow artifact where a vertical line will have a faded copy of itself to the right of itself, a few pixels over, and again, a little fainter, for about 4 echos until I can't see it anymore. Makes text a little hard to read a lot of. I had the problem with the default install of OpenBSD 3.2, and then I upgraded to Xfree86 4.3.0 (from source) to get drivers for my ati radeon 7500 card, but the exact same problem persists. I couldn't find anything in the documentation or comp.windows.x.i386unix. I've attached the log and config. gabe XFree86.0.log Description: Binary data XF86Config Description: Binary data
