Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-16 Thread gabe f
oh yeah, got the source for svgatextmode, but haven't tried it yet, 
though
sounds promising.

On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 05:24 PM, Rich Johnson wrote:

gabe--

It's a shot it the dark, but...check to see if your kernel has Radeon 
display support enabled.
I encountered the same symptoms  running a distribution kernel (Debian 
Woody) with a FireGL 1000 Pro Card.
In my case all the virtual consoles went away when _entering_ X with 
startx.  But that wasn't apparent until you exited X.
I built a new kernel with the correct options and, _voila_, the 
problem went away.

Also, a good reference is:
   http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html


On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 01:04 PM, gabebf  wrote:

I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 
4.3.0 from startx, and works fine, but on exit,
I don't have a screen, but i can type "shutdown -r now", blindly, and 
it works. What is it?

I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a 
crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15.

gabe

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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-15 Thread gabe f
Well, it was working with the ati driver in 4.2.x that came with 
OpenBSD 3.2
(should have mentioned the OS). Thanks, though. Actually, the only 
reason I went to
the trouble of installing 4.3.0 was to fix this 
ghosting/blurring/echoing artifact, which
had nothing to do with the drivers - it was my multiple vga cable 
connections. I can live
with it, though, if I don't want X running (and want the console), 
rebooting isn't a problem.
Really no big deal. Thanks everyone.

On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 05:24 PM, Rich Johnson wrote:

gabe--

It's a shot it the dark, but...check to see if your kernel has Radeon 
display support enabled.
I encountered the same symptoms  running a distribution kernel (Debian 
Woody) with a FireGL 1000 Pro Card.
In my case all the virtual consoles went away when _entering_ X with 
startx.  But that wasn't apparent until you exited X.
I built a new kernel with the correct options and, _voila_, the 
problem went away.

Also, a good reference is:
   http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html
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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-15 Thread Rich Johnson
gabe--

It's a shot it the dark, but...check to see if your kernel has Radeon 
display support enabled.
I encountered the same symptoms  running a distribution kernel (Debian 
Woody) with a FireGL 1000 Pro Card.
In my case all the virtual consoles went away when _entering_ X with 
startx.  But that wasn't apparent until you exited X.
I built a new kernel with the correct options and, _voila_, the problem 
went away.

Also, a good reference is:
   http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html


On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 01:04 PM, gabebf  wrote:

I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 
4.3.0 from startx, and works fine, but on exit,
I don't have a screen, but i can type "shutdown -r now", blindly, and 
it works. What is it?

I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a 
crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15.

gabe

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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-14 Thread Andy Goth
On Monday, July 14, 2003 11:03 am, Pigeon wrote:
> Unfortunately, SVGATextMode doesn't support the Radeon 7500. (Yet. I'm
> trying to hack it, but don't expect results any time soon :-) )

It supports generic VGA mode.  That's what I have it for---resetting my screen 
when I really, really need it.

I hacked my kernel to set a nice screen resolution and a custom font at boot 
time.  SVGATextMode doesn't honor this, so when I use it I lose my resolution 
until reboot, but it beats a black or mangled display.  Last resort stuff, 
y'know.

(If anyone cares, I can give you my patches.  The font looks awesome, but I 
might be a little biased since I drew it, hehehe.)

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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-14 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 10:13:58PM -0500, Andy Goth wrote:
> On Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:57 pm, gabe f wrote:
> > reset must be a linux thing, or something. I can barely read it says
> > something like
> >
> > delete is now backspace
> > kill is now .
> > interrupt
> >
> > but, didn't reset my screen. Thanks anyway.
> 
> reset only attempts to clear your terminal and set it to a "sane" state.  It 
> doesn't actually fiddle with your graphics card.  reset is good for fixing 
> problems like having echo disabled, the wrong character set, vertical 
> scrolling disabled, and so on---just "logical" terminal mis-settings.
> 
> SVGATextMode, on the other hand, will reset your graphics card as well.  Gvie 
> that a try.  I'm not sure what all platforms SVGATextMode works on, though.

Unfortunately, SVGATextMode doesn't support the Radeon 7500. (Yet. I'm
trying to hack it, but don't expect results any time soon :-) )

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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-14 Thread gabe f
On Sunday, July 13, 2003, at 11:13 PM, Andy Goth wrote:

On Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:57 pm, gabe f wrote:
reset must be a linux thing, or something. I can barely read it says
something like
delete is now backspace
kill is now .
interrupt
but, didn't reset my screen. Thanks anyway.
reset only attempts to clear your terminal and set it to a "sane" 
state.  It
doesn't actually fiddle with your graphics card.  reset is good for 
fixing
problems like having echo disabled, the wrong character set, vertical
scrolling disabled, and so on---just "logical" terminal mis-settings.

SVGATextMode, on the other hand, will reset your graphics card as 
well.  Gvie
that a try.  I'm not sure what all platforms SVGATextMode works on, 
though.

SVGATextMode is no where to be found on my OpenBSD file system.

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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-13 Thread Andy Goth
On Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:57 pm, gabe f wrote:
> reset must be a linux thing, or something. I can barely read it says
> something like
>
> delete is now backspace
> kill is now .
> interrupt
>
> but, didn't reset my screen. Thanks anyway.

reset only attempts to clear your terminal and set it to a "sane" state.  It 
doesn't actually fiddle with your graphics card.  reset is good for fixing 
problems like having echo disabled, the wrong character set, vertical 
scrolling disabled, and so on---just "logical" terminal mis-settings.

SVGATextMode, on the other hand, will reset your graphics card as well.  Gvie 
that a try.  I'm not sure what all platforms SVGATextMode works on, though.

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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-13 Thread gabe f
reset must be a linux thing, or something. I can barely read it says 
something like

delete is now backspace
kill is now .
interrupt
but, didn't reset my screen. Thanks anyway.

On Sunday, July 13, 2003, at 04:46 AM, Jarmo Paavilainen wrote:

On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 01:39, gabe f wrote:
I'm reposting this - no one knows what this is?
I do not know what is causing it, nor how to fix it.

Ive had similar trouble on some (older) Hercules cards, but a simple
"reset" usually fixed that.
Just type: reset  when X has exited. It might give you a usefull
terminal.
// Jarmo

I disabled dbe, but it didn't make any difference.
It's like the text color is black, or something. I experienced text
color being changed to
blue for a while, then I changed XF86Config, and this started 
happening
- maybe
the config changes just changed the text color to a (much) darker 
blue?
So, as a
workaround, how do I change the text color in terminal mode? Also, I
have no
lilo, as I'm using OpenBSD 3.2.

On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 06:20 PM, Ken Thompson wrote:

On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:04 am, gabe f wrote:
I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X
4.3.0
from startx, and works fine, but on exit,
I don't have a screen, but i can type "shutdown -r now", blindly, 
and
it works. What is it?

I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a
crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15.
gabe

I have had this happen with various higher level video cards, nVIDIA 
&
Matrox
etc. - what I have done to work around the problem is to not use
framebuffer
mode. Set lilo to vga=normal and you should get your term screen 
back.
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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-13 Thread Jarmo Paavilainen
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 01:39, gabe f wrote:
> I'm reposting this - no one knows what this is?

I do not know what is causing it, nor how to fix it.

Ive had similar trouble on some (older) Hercules cards, but a simple
"reset" usually fixed that.

Just type: reset  when X has exited. It might give you a usefull
terminal.

// Jarmo

> 
> I disabled dbe, but it didn't make any difference.
> It's like the text color is black, or something. I experienced text 
> color being changed to
> blue for a while, then I changed XF86Config, and this started happening 
> - maybe
> the config changes just changed the text color to a (much) darker blue? 
> So, as a
> workaround, how do I change the text color in terminal mode? Also, I 
> have no
> lilo, as I'm using OpenBSD 3.2.
> 
> On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 06:20 PM, Ken Thompson wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:04 am, gabe f wrote:
> >> I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 
> >> 4.3.0
> >> from startx, and works fine, but on exit,
> >> I don't have a screen, but i can type "shutdown -r now", blindly, and
> >> it works. What is it?
> >>
> >> I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a
> >> crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15.
> >>
> >> gabe
> >>
> > I have had this happen with various higher level video cards, nVIDIA & 
> > Matrox
> > etc. - what I have done to work around the problem is to not use 
> > framebuffer
> > mode. Set lilo to vga=normal and you should get your term screen back.
> > -- 
> > Ken Thompson WA7SYR
> > Payette, Idaho
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-12 Thread gabe f
I'm reposting this - no one knows what this is?

I disabled dbe, but it didn't make any difference.
It's like the text color is black, or something. I experienced text 
color being changed to
blue for a while, then I changed XF86Config, and this started happening 
- maybe
the config changes just changed the text color to a (much) darker blue? 
So, as a
workaround, how do I change the text color in terminal mode? Also, I 
have no
lilo, as I'm using OpenBSD 3.2.

On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 06:20 PM, Ken Thompson wrote:

On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:04 am, gabe f wrote:
I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 
4.3.0
from startx, and works fine, but on exit,
I don't have a screen, but i can type "shutdown -r now", blindly, and
it works. What is it?

I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a
crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15.
gabe

I have had this happen with various higher level video cards, nVIDIA & 
Matrox
etc. - what I have done to work around the problem is to not use 
framebuffer
mode. Set lilo to vga=normal and you should get your term screen back.
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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-11 Thread gabe f
also, I'm not using linux, OpenBSD 3.2

On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 06:20 PM, Ken Thompson wrote:

On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:04 am, gabe f wrote:
I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 
4.3.0
from startx, and works fine, but on exit,
I don't have a screen, but i can type "shutdown -r now", blindly, and
it works. What is it?

I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a
crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15.
gabe

I have had this happen with various higher level video cards, nVIDIA & 
Matrox
etc. - what I have done to work around the problem is to not use 
framebuffer
mode. Set lilo to vga=normal and you should get your term screen back.
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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-10 Thread gabe f
I disabled dbe, but I can still just barely read the text when back in 
terminal mode.
Like the text color is black, or something. I experienced text color 
being changed to
blue for a while, then I changed XF86Config, and this started happening 
- maybe
the config changes just changed the text color to a (much) darker blue? 
So, as a
workaround, how do I change the text color in terminal mode?

On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 06:20 PM, Ken Thompson wrote:

On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:04 am, gabe f wrote:
I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 
4.3.0
from startx, and works fine, but on exit,
I don't have a screen, but i can type "shutdown -r now", blindly, and
it works. What is it?

I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a
crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15.
gabe

I have had this happen with various higher level video cards, nVIDIA & 
Matrox
etc. - what I have done to work around the problem is to not use 
framebuffer
mode. Set lilo to vga=normal and you should get your term screen back.
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Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-10 Thread Ken Thompson
On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:04 am, gabe f wrote:
> I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 4.3.0
> from startx, and works fine, but on exit,
> I don't have a screen, but i can type "shutdown -r now", blindly, and
> it works. What is it?
>
> I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a
> crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15.
>
> gabe
>
I have had this happen with various higher level video cards, nVIDIA & Matrox 
etc. - what I have done to work around the problem is to not use framebuffer 
mode. Set lilo to vga=normal and you should get your term screen back.
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[XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-10 Thread gabe f
I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 4.3.0 
from startx, and works fine, but on exit,
I don't have a screen, but i can type "shutdown -r now", blindly, and 
it works. What is it?

I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a 
crt monitor. I'm running fvwm 2.4.15.

gabe

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