[xmail] Message ID Numbers?
I recently developed a webmail client for POP3/POP3S so that I could use native XMail support and webmail. The way the inbox is designed, messages are released in reverse order of their MTA assigned ID number, ie 1 is on the bottom, 2 next, a googol on the top, etc. This worked fine for a while, until I started getting many messages in my inbox. Then I started noticing that the messages were no longer arranged in order of their dates. I thought it was no big deal and just modified the code to sort the messages by date after converting them to a UNIX timestamp, etc. This worked for a while. The problem further complicated itself one day while I was reading a message, and, for a reason I now have forgotten, I refrehed the page, and the email changed! A new message had arrived while I was reading and had taken over the old message's ID number. This forced the message I was reading, and all subsequent messages, to increment their IDs. I was wondering if this is a flaw in XMail, or if that is the way all MTAs work. I have never used anything else, so I don't know if others just generate seemingly random IDs for incoming messages. If it is a flaw, can it be fixed? Because my client fully relies on the message ID number for all functions, like deletion, forwarding, and replying, I need to have messages have constant ID numbers. I would appreciate any information regarding this issue. Thanks in advance, Dustin C. Hatch http://www.dchweb.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Message ID Numbers?
I have the same problem with NOCC , I think I was the only one. and my english is too bad to to post Dustin C. Hatch escribioacute;: I recently developed a webmail client for POP3/POP3S so that I could use native XMail support and webmail. The way the inbox is designed, messages are released in reverse order of their MTA assigned ID number, ie 1 is on the bottom, 2 next, a googol on the top, etc. This worked fine for a while, until I started getting many messages in my inbox. Then I started noticing that the messages were no longer arranged in order of their dates. I thought it was no big deal and just modified the codeto sort the messages by date after converting them to a UNIX timestamp, etc. This worked for a while. The problem further complicated itself one day while I was reading a message, and, for a reason I now have forgotten, I refrehed the page, and the email changed! A new message had arrived while I was reading and had taken over the old message's ID number. This forced the message I was reading, and all subsequent messages, to increment their IDs. Iwas wondering if this is a flaw in XMail, or if that is the way all MTAs work. I have never used anything else, so I don't know if others just generate seemingly random IDs for incoming messages. If it is a flaw, can it be fixed? Because my client fully relies on the message ID number for all functions, like deletion, forwarding, and replying, I need to have messages have constant ID numbers. I would appreciate any information regarding this issue. Thanks in advance, Dustin C. Hatch http://www.dchweb.com[1] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Links --- 1 http://www.dchweb.com 2 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Message ID Numbers?
Which number are you using for the message ID number? How are you getting this number? At 07:04 3/30/2005, Dustin C. Hatch wrote: I recently developed a webmail client for POP3/POP3S so that I could use native XMail support and webmail. The way the inbox is designed, messages are released in reverse order of their MTA assigned ID number, ie 1 is on the bottom, 2 next, a googol on the top, etc. This worked fine for a while, until I started getting many messages in my inbox. Then I started noticing that the messages were no longer arranged in order of their dates. I thought it was no big deal and just modified the code to sort the messages by date after converting them to a UNIX timestamp, etc. This worked for a while. The problem further complicated itself one day while I was reading a message, and, for a reason I now have forgotten, I refrehed the page, and the email changed! A new message had arrived while I was reading and had taken over the old message's ID number. This forced the message I was reading, and all subsequent messages, to increment their IDs. I was wondering if this is a flaw in XMail, or if that is the way all MTAs work. I have never used anything else, so I don't know if others just generate seemingly random IDs for incoming messages. If it is a flaw, can it be fixed? Because my client fully relies on the message ID number for all functions, like deletion, forwarding, and replying, I need to have messages have constant ID numbers. I would appreciate any information regarding this issue. Thanks in advance, Dustin C. Hatch http://www.dchweb.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Message ID Numbers?
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Dustin C. Hatch wrote: I recently developed a webmail client for POP3/POP3S so that I could use native XMail support and webmail. The way the inbox is designed, messages are released in reverse order of their MTA assigned ID number, ie 1 is on the bottom, 2 next, a googol on the top, etc. This worked fine for a while, until I started getting many messages in my inbox. Then I started noticing that the messages were no longer arranged in order of their dates. I thought it was no big deal and just modified the code to sort the messages by date after converting them to a UNIX timestamp, etc. This worked for a while. The problem further complicated itself one day while I was reading a message, and, for a reason I now have forgotten, I refrehed the page, and the email changed! A new message had arrived while I was reading and had taken over the old message's ID number. This forced the message I was reading, and all subsequent messages, to increment their IDs. I was wondering if this is a flaw in XMail, or if that is the way all MTAs work. I have never used anything else, so I don't know if others just generate seemingly random IDs for incoming messages. If it is a flaw, can it be fixed? Because my client fully relies on the message ID number for all functions, like deletion, forwarding, and replying, I need to have messages have constant ID numbers. You are aware that POP3 server are not guaranteed to preserve message IDs across session, yes? That's why UIDL have been added to the protocol, and XMail supports it. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: mailman python script
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Jeffrey Laramie wrote: Hello All, I need some help updating the python script that intergrates XMail with the mailman list manager. Unfortunately I didn't write the script, and since my programming skills are quite limited and don't include python, my attempts to modify the script aren't going anywhere. I have no clue about Python (and not even have urgent plans to learn it), but google always helps ... The 2 specific problems I have are: 1. If the sender uses capitalization in the list name, XMail correctly recognizes it and executes the correct command alias but the script doesn't match the name to the correct list. You might want to use a convetion for file names, and than use lower() to convert email addresses: http://python.active-venture.com/lib/module-string.html 2. The script doesn't append entries to the log file, but instead writes over the first line each time. You'll have to add an a to the open-mode of the log file (or add a seek to the end). - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Information about Outlook Express version problem
Hi, I have a recent problem with Microsoft Outlook build 10.0.2627 (from Office XP, not Outlook Express). After send message from Outllook, the message has delivered without the header X-AuthUser and not pass for filter (filters.post-data.tab). When posted by Microsoft Outlook Express or others email clients, the header X-AuthUser is show normal and the message pass for filter script correctly (filters.post-data.tab). After updated the Microsoft Office XP to Microsoft Office XP SP 3, the version of Microsoft Outlook is build 10.0.6626 and the new send of same message has working fine with the header X-AuthUser and filter proccess. bye Luis A S C Junior - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: mailman python script
1. If the sender uses capitalization in the list name, XMail correctly recognizes it and executes the correct command alias but the script doesn't match the name to the correct list. You might want to use a convetion for file names, and than use lower() to convert email addresses: http://python.active-venture.com/lib/module-string.html Both mailman and the integration scripts create and use lower case list names and cmdaliases, so everything is consistant at the filesystem level. I simply needed to take the mixed case list name provided by @@RCPT and convert it to lower case before evaluating it. I actually had already found the right command and inserted it in the correct place. I just screwed up the usage using name = lower(name) instead of name = name.lower(). It's fixed now and if anyone is interested the updated script is here: http://www.ubaight.com/xmail/mailman 2. The script doesn't append entries to the log file, but instead writes over the first line each time. You'll have to add an a to the open-mode of the log file (or add a seek to the end). I'd like to make some other changes in the logging procedure so I'll play around with this tonight when I have more time. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Message ID Numbers?
Okay, I guess I should clarify what I mean by message ID numbers. PHP downloads the messages over POP3 as you would using telnet. The message IDs that it uses are just like you would using the command line to read mail: LIST +OK 15 70871 1 5427 2 1826 3 16834 4 4043 5 3875 6 2373 7 15345 8 1642 9 3229 10 2662 11 3882 12 3052 13 3524 14 1382 15 1775 The problem is that these IDs do not stay the same if new mail arrives. I may be able to re-write the program to use the Message-ID: header, if this is unchangeable. If someone has a better suggestion, let me know. Dustin C. Hatch http://www.dchweb.com On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Dustin C. Hatch wrote: I recently developed a webmail client for POP3/POP3S so that I could use native XMail support and webmail. The way the inbox is designed, messages are released in reverse order of their MTA assigned ID number, ie 1 is on the bottom, 2 next, a googol on the top, etc. This worked fine for a while, until I started getting many messages in my inbox. Then I started noticing that the messages were no longer arranged in order of their dates. I thought it was no big deal and just modified the code to sort the messages by date after converting them to a UNIX timestamp, etc. This worked for a while. The problem further complicated itself one day while I was reading a message, and, for a reason I now have forgotten, I refrehed the page, and the email changed! A new message had arrived while I was reading and had taken over the old message's ID number. This forced the message I was reading, and all subsequent messages, to increment their IDs. I was wondering if this is a flaw in XMail, or if that is the way all MTAs work. I have never used anything else, so I don't know if others just generate seemingly random IDs for incoming messages. If it is a flaw, can it be fixed? Because my client fully relies on the message ID number for all functions, like deletion, forwarding, and replying, I need to have messages have constant ID numbers. You are aware that POP3 server are not guaranteed to preserve message IDs across session, yes? That's why UIDL have been added to the protocol, and XMail supports it. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Message ID Numbers?
As Davide said, those numbers are only valid for the specific POP3 session that you received them in. Future sessions are not guaranteed to have the same numbers for the same messages. You should use the UIDL numbers. Retrieve them as: +OK Maildrop has 4 messages (12788 bytes) UIDL +OK 4 1 1028745740408.1556.karen 2 1062432866368.1924.karen 3 1062433302173.1404.karen 4 1067127927549.1956.karen These numbers (1028745740408.1556.karen) are guaranteed not to change between sessions. At 17:48 3/30/2005, Dustin C. Hatch wrote: Okay, I guess I should clarify what I mean by message ID numbers. PHP downloads the messages over POP3 as you would using telnet. The message IDs that it uses are just like you would using the command line to read mail: LIST +OK 15 70871 1 5427 2 1826 3 16834 4 4043 5 3875 6 2373 7 15345 8 1642 9 3229 10 2662 11 3882 12 3052 13 3524 14 1382 15 1775 The problem is that these IDs do not stay the same if new mail arrives. I may be able to re-write the program to use the Message-ID: header, if this is unchangeable. If someone has a better suggestion, let me know. Dustin C. Hatch http://www.dchweb.com On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Dustin C. Hatch wrote: I recently developed a webmail client for POP3/POP3S so that I could use native XMail support and webmail. The way the inbox is designed, messages are released in reverse order of their MTA assigned ID number, ie 1 is on the bottom, 2 next, a googol on the top, etc. This worked fine for a while, until I started getting many messages in my inbox. Then I started noticing that the messages were no longer arranged in order of their dates. I thought it was no big deal and just modified the code to sort the messages by date after converting them to a UNIX timestamp, etc. This worked for a while. The problem further complicated itself one day while I was reading a message, and, for a reason I now have forgotten, I refrehed the page, and the email changed! A new message had arrived while I was reading and had taken over the old message's ID number. This forced the message I was reading, and all subsequent messages, to increment their IDs. I was wondering if this is a flaw in XMail, or if that is the way all MTAs work. I have never used anything else, so I don't know if others just generate seemingly random IDs for incoming messages. If it is a flaw, can it be fixed? Because my client fully relies on the message ID number for all functions, like deletion, forwarding, and replying, I need to have messages have constant ID numbers. You are aware that POP3 server are not guaranteed to preserve message IDs across session, yes? That's why UIDL have been added to the protocol, and XMail supports it. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Message ID Numbers?
Okay, I guess I should clarify what I mean by message ID numbers. PHP downloads the messages over POP3 as you would using telnet. The message IDs that it uses are just like you would using the command line to read mail: LIST +OK 15 70871 1 5427 2 1826 3 16834 4 4043 5 3875 [snip] Look at the POP3 command uidl Regards, Brandon Wittenburg - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
