[xmail] Re: Xmail blocks outgoing email after a short time.
Best way is to tell your messaging client software to 'authenticate' on = smtp sessions. Doing this, smtp sessions are completly independant from pop sessions. Francis -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Chris Jones Envoy=E9 : mardi 17 avril 2007 17:49 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Xmail blocks outgoing email after a short time. I have specified Authentication Allowed in the email client. =20 In user tab: RealName Chris Jones HomePage http://enersave.ca; MaxMBSize 3 MaxMessageSize1 SmtpPerms MRV ReceiveEnable 1 PopEnable 1 In the server tab: EnableAuthSMTP-POP3 1 If I try to send an email more than 5 minutes after I check email, it=20 gets blocked. I check the email then I can sent again. How do I=20 specify the length of time between checks so that I can send=20 without checking? Thanks for your ongoing help! Chris Jones Enersave Logistics 14 Oneida Avenue Toronto, ON M5J2E3 Tel. 416 203-7465 Fax. 416 946-1005 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Anti Virus/SPAM script for Unix ...
-Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Davide Libenzi Envoy=E9 : mercredi 18 avril 2007 03:56 =C0 : XMail mailing list Objet : [xmail] Anti Virus/SPAM script for Unix ... An XMail user sent me a link for a script he wrote: http://www.byza.it/xmail - Davide - Interesting :) The only think to note is the post-data command proposed : !aex /var/MailRoot/filters/xmail_filter.sh @@FILE @@REMOTEADDR Even if I allow my clients to relay without ip/glst = filters/blacklists/... checks on them I will never trust them beeing virus free or never = hacked by some spammers :) So if I had to use this good script (and any others, as long as it's = for virus and spam checks), I will not put the !aex flag. Francis - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Xmail blocks outgoing email after a short time.
Can't you set the client to connect to POP before it sends the e-mail? Microsoft Outlook Express can do this. But I agree that SMTP auth is better :) Ivo - Original Message - From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:52 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail blocks outgoing email after a short time. Best way is to tell your messaging client software to 'authenticate' on = smtp sessions. Doing this, smtp sessions are completly independant from pop sessions. Francis -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Chris Jones Envoy=E9 : mardi 17 avril 2007 17:49 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Xmail blocks outgoing email after a short time. I have specified Authentication Allowed in the email client. =20 In user tab: RealName Chris Jones HomePage http://enersave.ca; MaxMBSize 3 MaxMessageSize1 SmtpPerms MRV ReceiveEnable 1 PopEnable 1 In the server tab: EnableAuthSMTP-POP3 1 If I try to send an email more than 5 minutes after I check email, it=20 gets blocked. I check the email then I can sent again. How do I=20 specify the length of time between checks so that I can send=20 without checking? Thanks for your ongoing help! Chris Jones Enersave Logistics 14 Oneida Avenue Toronto, ON M5J2E3 Tel. 416 203-7465 Fax. 416 946-1005 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre06 ...
Ho hum ... Convenient to blame a temp net error for the first dns related error I've seen in ages, right after testing your new dns resolving code. Coincidence maybe. This is going nowhere - end thread. :-( Question: how many other MTAs do their own DNS lookups ? Do they use the OS resolver setting ? What is the benefit of Xmail doing the dns resolution entirely by itself? Rob :-) _ Note To Self: Remember to put something witty here later... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:51 AM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: 1.25-pre06 ... On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Rob Arends wrote: SO Getting back to the real issue at hand... Why would a VERY large ISP (optusnet.com.au) be broken. It certainly is not broken now when DIGs are done. The only difference is that one NS that wasn't responding - it now is. And you say that xmail tries all NS records until it gets valid results or all NS are exhausted, so one NS not responding should not be a problem. Unfortunately the reason I switched to SMARTDNSHOST years ago was due to the reliability of xmail's DNS lookup routines. I use 'named' as a caching DNS server and point xmail to it and have had very little problem caused by lookup failure since. Within one day of trying NO SMARTDNSHOST on 1.25pre06, I had undeliverable emails. I have since re-enabled SMARTDNSHOST and again I have no problems (the user has resent the emails successfully). I had no problems in sending to that domain, and in general I had no problems whatsoever so far with it. You didn't try to resend to that domain, did you? You probably hit a temporary network problem, you saw the message XMail generated, and you posted to the mailing list. Why it is more rare that you see this using a 'named' resolver? Because 'named' caches *everything*, so it is easier that temporary network problems end up being hidden by its caching. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre06 ...
so it is easier that temporary network problems end up being hidden by its caching. - Davide But why should a temporary network problem cause any issue in the first place, unless that problem is a bad DNS entry? Network connectivity issues during a DNS query should at most cause a delay in sending the mail, but the mail should eventually get through without user intervention. I'm still concerned that your fall back to A after MX timeout could cause a permanent delivery failure (trying to send to the host pointed to by the A record, potentially hitting an SMTP server that would refuse the delivery) when the failure should only be temporary (can't get any results from the domain's DNS servers due to a network failure somewhere while trying to lookup the MX record). Admittedly, this would be a _very_ small window of opportunity, but still possible if Xmail handles this as you suggest. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Anti Virus/SPAM script for Unix ...
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, CLEMENT Francis wrote: An XMail user sent me a link for a script he wrote: http://www.byza.it/xmail Interesting :) The only think to note is the post-data command proposed : !aex /var/MailRoot/filters/xmail_filter.sh @@FILE @@REMOTEADDR Even if I allow my clients to relay without ip/glst = filters/blacklists/... checks on them I will never trust them beeing virus free or never = hacked by some spammers :) So if I had to use this good script (and any others, as long as it's = for virus and spam checks), I will not put the !aex flag. I didn't even look at it. I just received and posted it. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre06 ...
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Rob Arends wrote: Ho hum ... Convenient to blame a temp net error for the first dns related error I've seen in ages, right after testing your new dns resolving code. Coincidence maybe. This is going nowhere - end thread. :-( It was a temporary error, wasn't it? Thing that the majority of other MTAs won't even bother to tell you in the first place, so you sleep happy. I already explained you, in the previous email, why this can happen. Question: how many other MTAs do their own DNS lookups ? Do they use the OS resolver setting ? What is the benefit of Xmail doing the dns resolution entirely by itself? And how many of them runs natively on basically all unxes and all windows w/out requiring you to fetch and link other 37 libraries? If, from the hight of your experience, you can tell me a POSIX function that does MX lookups and is supported natively by ll unx and all windows, that would be great. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] AOL and Netzero
I know there have been discussions on this subject but I cant find them in my archives. I am getting mail bounced from AOL and Netzero. Appears to treat me as SPAM and bounces the mail. I have reviewed all the documentation and I don't use SMTPRELAY. My users are authenticated via Outlook. Seems to me I remember that there are some setting to be changed or entries to make in a tab file to make AOL, etc play nice. Can someone help me out, or point me to the right place? JB Edmonds - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: AOL and Netzero
Not sure about Netzero, but for AOL blacklists/bounces, http://postmaster.aol.com/ is probably the best place to start. We recently had problems with messages from a mail server on our network (not XMail) that was being bounced by AOL, and we managed to get things figured out through information from that site, as well as a quick phone call with their Postmaster Services help desk. Their Feedback Loop service is a good thing - gives you a heads-up whenever AOL users report spam that originated in your IP block, helps you be proactive. Hope that helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edmonds, J.B. Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:03 PM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] AOL and Netzero I know there have been discussions on this subject but I cant find them in my archives. I am getting mail bounced from AOL and Netzero. Appears to treat me as SPAM and bounces the mail. I have reviewed all the documentation and I don't use SMTPRELAY. My users are authenticated via Outlook. Seems to me I remember that there are some setting to be changed or entries to make in a tab file to make AOL, etc play nice. Can someone help me out, or point me to the right place? JB Edmonds - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre06 ...
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, John Kielkopf wrote: so it is easier that temporary network problems end up being hidden by its caching. - Davide But why should a temporary network problem cause any issue in the first place, unless that problem is a bad DNS entry? Network connectivity issues during a DNS query should at most cause a delay in sending the mail, but the mail should eventually get through without user intervention. I'm still concerned that your fall back to A after MX timeout could cause a permanent delivery failure (trying to send to the host pointed to by the A record, potentially hitting an SMTP server that would refuse the delivery) when the failure should only be temporary (can't get any results from the domain's DNS servers due to a network failure somewhere while trying to lookup the MX record). Admittedly, this would be a _very_ small window of opportunity, but still possible if Xmail handles this as you suggest. That can be done. Anyone has a domain name with no MX handy, for me to test? - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre06 ...
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, John Kielkopf wrote: so it is easier that temporary network problems end up being hidden by its caching. - Davide But why should a temporary network problem cause any issue in the first place, unless that problem is a bad DNS entry? Network connectivity issues during a DNS query should at most cause a delay in sending the mail, but the mail should eventually get through without user intervention. I'm still concerned that your fall back to A after MX timeout could cause a permanent delivery failure (trying to send to the host pointed to by the A record, potentially hitting an SMTP server that would refuse the delivery) when the failure should only be temporary (can't get any results from the domain's DNS servers due to a network failure somewhere while trying to lookup the MX record). Admittedly, this would be a _very_ small window of opportunity, but still possible if Xmail handles this as you suggest. That can be done. Anyone has a domain name with no MX handy, for me to test? Never mind, found it (example.com :) Now I see XMail going to A-record when sending to example.com, that is right. Now I need to test the other part, that is a temporary remote DNS error ... - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] 1.25-pre07 ...
This version does not try to send to the A-record, in case of errors other than MX-not-found: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre07.tar.gz http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre07.win32bin.zip - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
