[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected
On Wed, 19 May 2004, ck wrote: ErrCode = -173 ErrString = Mail loop detected Message S19D blocked by mail loop check ! SMTP-Error = 554 Message blocked by mail loop check What does it mean? Take a look at the Received: header chain in the message. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.
Francesco Vertova wrote: At 12.11 12/05/04 -0500, you wrote: Why Xmail decided to use the A record from the next DNS it was able to talk with is beyond me. My dns reports MX information for bioenergy.com as Non-authoritative. It seems - I've seen this other times - that in such a case the XMail internal resolver fails, so it falls back on A. Ciao, Francesco Hmmm... Interesting. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.
On Wed, 12 May 2004, John Kielkopf wrote: Getting a Mail loop detected on a domain we host on our DNS server, and on our web servers, be do not host the mail (MX record points to customers server). This only happens on mail being sent from our mail server. The destination domain is not handled by our mail servers (no domain alias, no custom domain, no domain entry, and the DNS records appear to be correct). This seemed to start after changing to 1.18... I haven't gone back to 1.17 to test though. Take a look at the slog files. Try a nslookup -recurse -type=mx bioenergy.com from the XMail machine. IMO is failing with the MX resolution and is picking up the A record, that points to your server. Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3732) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306CA for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:47:59 -0500 - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.
You have an A record that points back to yourself bioenergy.com. 3580IN A 207.67.28.220 Don't know why xmail is giving preference to the A record when an MX record exists. Interesting bioenergy.com. 3529IN MX 10 64.122.83.163. Bill -- From: John Kielkopf[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:56 AM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem. Getting a Mail loop detected on a domain we host on our DNS server, and on our web servers, be do not host the mail (MX record points to customers server). This only happens on mail being sent from our mail server. The destination domain is not handled by our mail servers (no domain alias, no custom domain, no domain entry, and the DNS records appear to be correct). This seemed to start after changing to 1.18... I haven't gone back to 1.17 to test though. -John (rejection message below: users modified to ): [00] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[Mail loop detected] [01] Error sending message [1083538241496.2332.ns1] from [smtp1.mnwebhost.net]. ID:S1306D9 Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rcpt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02] The reason of the delivery failure was: Mail loop detected [04] Here is listed the message log file: [PeekTime] 1083538122 : Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:42 -0500 ErrCode = -173 ErrString = Mail loop detected Message S1306D9 blocked by mail loop check ! SMTP-Error = 554 Message blocked by mail loop check [05] Here is listed the initial part of the message: Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3999) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306D9 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:26 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3955) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306D6 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:12 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3917) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306D4 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:11 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3869) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306D2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:08 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3838) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306D0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:07 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3805) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306CF for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:05 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3787) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306CE for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:03 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3763) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306CD for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:02 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3752) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306CC for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:01 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3742) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306CB for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:00 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3732) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306CA for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:47:59 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3720) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306C9 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:47:58 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3707) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306C7 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:47:57 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3696) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306C6 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:47:56 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3684) by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S1306C4 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 May 2004 17:47:55
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Bill Healy wrote: You have an A record that points back to yourself bioenergy.com. 3580IN A 207.67.28.220 Don't know why xmail is giving preference to the A record when an MX record exists. Interesting bioenergy.com. 3529IN MX 10 64.122.83.163. The A record lookup is the backup solution if the MX cannot be found. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.
Understood, but why didn't xmail find the MX record? Sounds like it's not an intermittent problem and the dns server is right there near the xmail server I'm guessing. Bill -- From: Davide Libenzi[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:48 AM To:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem. On Wed, 12 May 2004, Bill Healy wrote: You have an A record that points back to yourself bioenergy.com. 3580IN A 207.67.28.220 Don't know why xmail is giving preference to the A record when an MX record exists. Interesting bioenergy.com. 3529IN MX 10 64.122.83.163. The A record lookup is the backup solution if the MX cannot be found. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.
Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 12 May 2004, Bill Healy wrote: You have an A record that points back to yourself bioenergy.com. 3580IN A 207.67.28.220 Don't know why xmail is giving preference to the A record when an MX record exists. Interesting bioenergy.com. 3529IN MX 10 64.122.83.163. The A record lookup is the backup solution if the MX cannot be found. - Davide Turns out one of the DNS server that mail server uses wasn't responding at all. Why Xmail decided to use the A record from the next DNS it was able to talk with is beyond me. -John - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.
At 12.11 12/05/04 -0500, you wrote: Why Xmail decided to use the A record from the next DNS it was able to talk with is beyond me. My dns reports MX information for bioenergy.com as Non-authoritative. It seems - I've seen this other times - that in such a case the XMail internal resolver fails, so it falls back on A. Ciao, Francesco - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Stephen Wilson wrote: RaveRod wrote: Is there any way to de-loop these messages? Would you have to remove the messages Received: headers manually and then resubmit the message? I have not received any more loops. I think Mr. Libenzi fixed this problem quite quickly and concisely. Thank you very much Mr. Libenzi! Pls don't use Mr.Libenzi, I feel like you'd be talking to my father :) - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
Davide Libenzi wrote: On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Stephen Wilson wrote: RaveRod wrote: Is there any way to de-loop these messages? Would you have to remove the messages Received: headers manually and then resubmit the message? I have not received any more loops. I think Mr. Libenzi fixed this problem quite quickly and concisely. Thank you very much Mr. Libenzi! Pls don't use Mr.Libenzi, I feel like you'd be talking to my father :) - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Will do Davide. -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: text/x-vcard -- File: stevew.vcf - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
Yeah, happened here too.. Only 4 though. So it's not only you... RaveRod wrote: 5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail loop. This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
I received 1 email detected as loop too. I think the problem is with ecartis. Fred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RaveRod Sent: 27 avril, 2004 19:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Mail loop detected? 5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail loop. This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
On [Tue, 27.04. 23:20], RaveRod wrote: 5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail loop. This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this? YOU can't fix it. Since the loop was built by someone else. It seems we all get those :-P -- Wiener Hilfswerk - EDV 1072 Wien, Schottenfeldgasse 29 Tel: 512 36 61 DW 407 / Fax 512 36 61 33 -- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBQI5gzeEKFiIqAG4fAQJw9QgAg6UTl9cvS4HOxy3WnhZL3YGY8LnDWoj8 wQYBvVaDOuvMhaTuJe6FYbwDTLJhycMoTzGHo+BJUSTIwloIpTN6jxCRDZEf+23P MEMDVpU55NVB4gwI/6/vPhEQFBI7nmXyGCFoekHaaN1CpVL3jm7DevGoI0eG8v7g It4i+seSnS8bLUIjex4GMzViBPU07X4unNhaBMv2Bp4DvcTVC1ST5Q4wzz2HKzgs HCDq99IP6bj6b7sBFwF9voug8NNfWJVh7l+Etny5qai2FT6GjRYwsh6Qn+7oLDd0 lSsxICwyvjaohkFgmv7dZniBeapeuzmsXz4dJV300U5PMdA7JI9Qyg== =xoQ8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
At 23.20 27/04/04 +, you wrote: 5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail loop. This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this? Someone with a screwed up MS SMTPSVC mailserver is re-injecting old messages into the list. The original messages were posted between April 13 and April 14. Some go through, some are detected as mail loops (depending on the number of Received: headers). Look at the date of the original messages. Just wait for Davide to unsubscribe this guy (or unsubscribe yourself, if you really can't live with this for a while). Ciao, Francesco - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
Well, I received you and Liron's messages fine. Seems strange. At least now I know it's not my mailserver. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Mail loop detected? I received 1 email detected as loop too. I think the problem is with ecartis. Fred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RaveRod Sent: 27 avril, 2004 19:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Mail loop detected? 5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail loop. This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
Yeah I noticed those to. So these messages are as good as junk? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francesco Vertova Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 1:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Mail loop detected? At 23.20 27/04/04 +, you wrote: 5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail loop. This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this? Someone with a screwed up MS SMTPSVC mailserver is re-injecting old messages into the list. The original messages were posted between April 13 and April 14. Some go through, some are detected as mail loops (depending on the number of Received: headers). Look at the date of the original messages. Just wait for Davide to unsubscribe this guy (or unsubscribe yourself, if you really can't live with this for a while). Ciao, Francesco - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
At 23.43 27/04/04 +, you wrote: Yeah I noticed those to. So these messages are as good as junk? Yep. Unless you want to keep them to write an ad hoc filter ... Someone with a screwed up MS SMTPSVC mailserver is re-injecting old messages into the list. The original messages were posted between April 13 and April 14. Some go through, some are detected as mail loops (depending on the number of Received: headers). Ciao, Francesco - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
Just for clarity, how would this happen? I thought a mailloop would only effect that mailserver??? Confused... Ben RaveRod wrote: Yeah I noticed those to. So these messages are as good as junk? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francesco Vertova Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 1:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Mail loop detected? At 23.20 27/04/04 +, you wrote: 5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail loop. This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this? Someone with a screwed up MS SMTPSVC mailserver is re-injecting old messages into the list. The original messages were posted between April 13 and April 14. Some go through, some are detected as mail loops (depending on the number of Received: headers). Look at the date of the original messages. Just wait for Davide to unsubscribe this guy (or unsubscribe yourself, if you really can't live with this for a while). Ciao, Francesco - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Liron Newman wrote: Yeah, happened here too.. Only 4 though. So it's not only you... This was the genius that re-injected messages (I received about 200 bounces for mail loops): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now carefully removed from the list. I miss a feature in Ecartis already. Something like a ~/.never-resubscribe kinda of things. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
At 09.11 27/04/04 -0500, you wrote: Just for clarity, how would this happen? I thought a mailloop would only effect that mailserver??? Confused... XMail defines a mail loop as a message with more than (by default 16) Received: headers. It counts these headers and does not try to detect if a message is really going back and forth. The (good) assumption is that, if there are too many Received: then something is wrong somewhere, whether a loop or not (and a loop will always generate too many Received: sooner or later ...). Now, suppose Ecartis adds, say, 9 Received: headers. If a message is re-injected, it gets another 9 Received: headers prepended to it, so that XMail sees too many Received: and declares a mail loop. The actual number of Received: headers may vary, so a re-injected msg may get through on a system and be declared a mail loop on another. Anyway, the 'loop' is the sheer number of Received: which in this case depends on re-injection rather than a 'loop' proper. But the above assumption is still good :-) Ciao, Francesco - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?
Hey, thanks for the info Francesco! Ben Francesco Vertova wrote: At 09.11 27/04/04 -0500, you wrote: Just for clarity, how would this happen? I thought a mailloop would only effect that mailserver??? Confused... XMail defines a mail loop as a message with more than (by default 16) Received: headers. It counts these headers and does not try to detect if a message is really going back and forth. The (good) assumption is that, if there are too many Received: then something is wrong somewhere, whether a loop or not (and a loop will always generate too many Received: sooner or later ...). Now, suppose Ecartis adds, say, 9 Received: headers. If a message is re-injected, it gets another 9 Received: headers prepended to it, so that XMail sees too many Received: and declares a mail loop. The actual number of Received: headers may vary, so a re-injected msg may get through on a system and be declared a mail loop on another. Anyway, the 'loop' is the sheer number of Received: which in this case depends on re-injection rather than a 'loop' proper. But the above assumption is still good :-) Ciao, Francesco - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected on backup MX
an email that was sent to my backup MX generated a Mail loop detected error on the backup MX. ... so, have I just setup my backup MX wrong ? (I thought this is how it was supposted to be setup according to a recent post on this list) You should use an smtprelay instead of an smtp thanks. so that post on the 2/jan/03 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] was wrong. Louis Solomon www.SteelBytes.com - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: XMail mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:49 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Mail loop detected on backup MX On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Louis Solomon [SteelBytes] wrote: an email that was sent to my backup MX generated a Mail loop detected error on the backup MX. here's the setup (using v1.11 on win2000) ... DNS MX records: domain1.com - 10:alias.domain1.com, 20:alias.domain2.com domain1.com xmail settings: domain - domain1.com domain alias - alias.domain1.com domain2.com xmail settings: custdomain - domain1.com.tab: SMTPnewline, alias.domain1.com.tab: SMTPnewline (plus settings pertaining to domain2.com, but they should not be relevant, but for those who are interested, they are almost the same as for domain1.com). I tested this by telneting to domain1.com:25 and domain2.com:25 and sending a message by hand (which got through both times ok). so I thought my backup MX was all ok. but for a short amount of time on the weekend, domain1.com was offline, and an email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] now, here is what I think happened remote server does MX lookup for domain1.com - gets 10:alias.domain1.com, 20:alias.domain2.com attempts to connect to domain1.com:25 - fails attempts to connect to domain2.com:25 - succeeds domain2.com does check local domains and domain aliases - no match check custdomain - finds command SMTP for domain1.com MX lookup for domain1.com - gets 10:alias.domain1.com, 20:alias.domain2.com attempts to connect to domain1.com:25 - fails attempts to connect to domain2.com:25 - succeeds domain2.com does the same sequence of steps repeatedly until loop detected. (each time prepending a bit to the header) so, have I just setup my backup MX wrong ? (I thought this is how it was supposted to be setup according to a recent post on this list) You should use an smtprelay instead of an smtp - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]