Re: Anyone using a large panning desktop

2011-10-22 Thread walt
On 10/14/2011 02:29 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Is anyone here running a large panning (pannable) desktop.
 
 If so would you mind posting your combination of hardware and X
 related settings and versions?

I saw your questions about broken panning in another mailing list,
so I tried adding Virtual 2048 1024 to the Display subsection
in xorg.conf the way I did years ago.

I was disappointed to find that the change had no effect so I
assumed that I was having the same problem you are and forgot
about it.

I was shocked this morning to find that simply logging in as a
different user (with a fresh home directory) produces a working
panning desktop!

I'm running gnome 2.32.x on xorg server 1.9.5 with the proprietary
nvidia drivers 173.14.31.

The salient point is, obviously, that something in my usual gnome
environment breaks desktop panning -- but what is it?  Gnome has
so many knobs to twiddle I don't even know where to start looking.

Anyone else have an idea?


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Shift-Backspace kills X?

2011-10-04 Thread walt
I often type Shift-Backspace by mistake, and I must have been doing
it since I bought my current keyboard a year ago or more.

Just lately I've found that Shift-Backspace terminates my X session
just the way Ctrl-Alt-Backspace did in the old days.  This was an
unpleasant surprise, as it's purely unintentional.

I finally traced this strange behavior to a very old setting in my
gnome desktop config files that effectively adds three XkbOptions:

grp grp:alts_toggle
terminate   terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
capscaps:none

I must have copy/pasted these items from somewhere a long time ago
when trying to restore the old Ctrl-Alt-Backspace behavior, but I
can't remember where I got them.

Anyone understand how/why those old options are now being translated
into to my current unwanted behavior?

I'm running gentoo, which frequently updates all sorts of xorg-
related packages and drivers, so it might have been any of them,
dunno for sure.

Any hints much appreciated :)

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Re: Shift-Backspace kills X?

2011-10-04 Thread walt
On 10/04/2011 09:19 AM, Octoploid wrote:
 walt w41ter at gmail.com writes:
 
 Just lately I've found that Shift-Backspace terminates my X session
 just the way Ctrl-Alt-Backspace did in the old days.

 Yes, I've hit the same problem. I came up with this hack in .xinitrc ,
 which solves the issue for me:
 
 (sleep 2  xmodmap -e keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace BackSpace BackSpace
 NoSymbol NoSymbol Terminate_Server)

That evidently does the same as editing /usr/share/X11/kdb/symbols/terminate
(thanks for the clue Alan :) but how did you come up with that fix on your own?

Are you one of the rare individuals in our solar system who really understands
what that, um, stuff actually means?  I've done a bit of googling on the key-
code stuff in the past and finally gave up in despair of ever making sense of 
it.

For example, why does the keycode spec include four BackSpaces and two 
NoSymbols?
Which documentation actually explains why it's done that way?  I'll read it 
again
if you can point me to it.

Many thanks for the help!


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Re: Emulate3Buttons not honored

2011-07-25 Thread walt
On 07/25/2011 07:27 AM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
 ...
 I'm trying to get my ORtek Wireless Touchpad keyboard to emulate 3
 buttons...
 ...
 Note that X reports that it 'Found 3 mouse buttons', but in fact there
 are only 2 real buttons...

Sounds like you already know more about this stuff than I do :)

Just an idle observation:  I have a four-button trackball mouse that
xorg announces as having 9 buttons.  According to xev, the buttons are
1:  Left click
3:  Right click
2:  buttons 1 and 3 pressed at the same time
8:  Left tiny-button click
9:  Right tiny-button click

That's all. Buttons 4-7 don't exist.  Someone in this mailing list
explained this numbering system to me a long time ago.  Shame I can't
remember it now :(

Anyway, my point is that button numbering schemes can be sneaky, and you
may learn something interesting if you run xev and click the buttons in
random ways, maybe including double-tapping the touchpad, etc.

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Re: evdev fails with Couldn't open mtdev device

2011-07-11 Thread walt
On 07/11/2011 02:24 AM, Florian Echtler wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I'm trying to configure a secondary X server for an auxiliary touchscreen,
 but I'm having some problems with the input configuration. To keep input
 for my main screen and the auxiliary screen separate, I'm using the following
 config for the secondary one:
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier mimoTouch
 Driver evdev
 Option CorePointer trueB
 Option Device /dev/input/event2
 EndSection

Have you read about the new InputClass Section?  It has some advantages
over the older InputDevice, including the important ability to identify
devices by their plug-n-play names instead the event number.

As an example, here's my input section for a non-standard mouse:

#cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-trackball.conf 
Section InputClass   --- note the new name
Identifier trackball   - I made this name up
MatchProduct ImExPS- important: I did not make this up
Option AutoServerLayout on
Option Emulate3Buttons on
Option EmulateWheel on
Option EmulateWheelButton 8
EndSection

Note the MatchProduct keyword.  Unless you have two identical input devices
this product name will be unique and invariant over reboots, unlike event2.

There are two places I could get the string for MatchProduct -- dmesg and
#udevadm info --export-db:

#dmesg|grep Logitech
input: ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse as 
/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input4

And the corresponding (very small) section from udevadm info --export-db:

P: /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input4
E: UDEV_LOG=3
E: DEVPATH=/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input4
E: PRODUCT=11/2/6/6d
E: NAME=ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse
E: PHYS=isa0060/serio1/input0
E: PROP=0
E: EV=7
E: KEY=1f 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
E: REL=143
E: 
MODALIAS=input:b0011v0002p0006e006D-e0,1,2,k110,111,112,113,114,r0,1,6,8,amlsfw
E: SUBSYSTEM=input

I don't know if any of this will help solve your problem, but I'd be interested
to know if any of the experts here will include it in their advice.

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Re: arious x apps (xterm, xfontsel) don't start due to missing fonts

2011-03-26 Thread walt

On 03/24/2011 02:19 PM, Shiva Persaud wrote:

Hi folks,

I'm having what appears to be a common problem but not of the solutions I've 
found on various forums and threads have worked for me.

I noticed this issue after I configured my system to use the en_US.utf8 locale 
but it's possible that this issue existed before that change. Note that in 
debugging I've gone back to using having POSIX as my locale and the problem 
persists.

I noticed then when I did a ctrl-right click xterm windows would close. I
started an xterm from an xterm and ctrl-right clicked on the new xterm and saw 
the following error message:

begin
~(245)$ xterm
Warning: Cannot convert string
-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct
Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font


I just had a font problem after a recent gentoo update, too, but I'm not sure
it's the same problem.

My problem was caused by a change in the way the misc.misc fonts are named, but
the font.alias package doesn't contain the corresponding changes. (Perhaps a
version mismatch?)

Specifically, I use the 9x15 alias listed in fonts.alias:

#grep 9x15 /usr/share/fonts/misc/fonts.alias
9x15 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
9x15bold -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1

However, fonts.dir lists those two fonts as:

#grep 9x15 /usr/share/fonts/misc/fonts.dir
9x15.pcf.gz -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso10646-1
9x15B.pcf.gz -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso10646-1

Note the iso8858 changed to iso10646, so fonts.alias was pointing to
a nonexistent font.

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Re: No mouse, no keyboard in X

2011-03-18 Thread walt

On 03/17/2011 07:08 PM, jazzbo wrote:



walter s wrote:


On 03/15/2011 06:46 PM, jazzbo wrote:



The Xserver doesn't find the mouse or keyboard unless keyboard and mouse
are
unplugged / plugged in.


The X logfile should give you some messages about input devices when
the X server is starting up.  When you un-plug/re-plug the devices
you should see more log messages.  Also check dmesg to see if the
kernel is finding the mouse and keyboard during boot.




I found this in the log.

(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or
'vmmouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Mouse0
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0


You probably still have the mouse and kbd drivers in your xorg.conf
something like this::

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse

You should delete those InputDevice sections completely because newer
Xorg servers don't need them.  The evdev input driver finds the mouse
and keyboard without any configuration.

You can remove the mouse and kbd drivers from your machine, too,
as they've been replaced by evdev.

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Re: No mouse, no keyboard in X

2011-03-17 Thread walt

On 03/15/2011 06:46 PM, jazzbo wrote:



The Xserver doesn't find the mouse or keyboard unless keyboard and mouse are
unplugged / plugged in.


The X logfile should give you some messages about input devices when
the X server is starting up.  When you un-plug/re-plug the devices
you should see more log messages.  Also check dmesg to see if the
kernel is finding the mouse and keyboard during boot.


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Re: HTML colouring in xedit

2011-01-14 Thread walt

On 01/13/2011 07:06 AM, Johannes Truschnigg wrote:


just suck it up and import CACert's class1 and
class3 roots into your trusted certificate store


Thank you!  I would have done that ages ago if only you had mentioned
it earlier :)

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Re: [xorg-server-1.9.2.902] How to set EmulateWheelButton with no hal? [SOLVED]

2010-12-27 Thread walt

On 12/26/2010 08:27 AM, walt wrote:

On 12/25/2010 10:31 PM, Peter Hutterer wrote:



http://who-t.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-configuration-world-order.html


Thanks Peter. I got the emulate wheel working again with this:

$cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-trackball.conf

Section InputClass
Identifier pointer
MatchProduct ImExPS
Driver evdev   --- I DELETED  THIS LINE
Option AutoServerLayout on
Option Emulate3Buttons on
Option EmulateWheel on
Option EmulateWheelButton 8
EndSection

Even though the mouse works normally, these lines at the end of Xorg.log make
me suspect that something is still not right:

[ 5223.204] (**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Device: /dev/input/mouse0
[ 5223.204] (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[ 5223.204] (II) UnloadModule: evdev
[ 5223.204] (EE) PreInit returned NULL for ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse

Are those errors something to worry about?


I tried deleted the Driver evdev line because evdev had already discovered the
mouse before reading my new .conf file.

Now the last line of Xorg.log is:
[   489.498] (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring)

I don't know if I've found the truly correct way to configure the mouse, but
I'm happier with one warning than with two error messages :)

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Re: [xorg-server-1.9.2.902] How to set EmulateWheelButton with no hal?

2010-12-26 Thread walt

On 12/25/2010 10:31 PM, Peter Hutterer wrote:

On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 14:23:08 -0800, waltw41...@gmail.com  wrote:



Until now I've been using a hal fdi file to set EmulateWheelButton to 8,
but now hal is gone, so what to do instead?



http://who-t.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-configuration-world-order.html


Thanks Peter.  I got the emulate wheel working again with this:

$cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-trackball.conf

Section InputClass
Identifier pointer
MatchProduct ImExPS
Driver evdev
Option AutoServerLayout on
Option Emulate3Buttons on
Option EmulateWheel on
Option EmulateWheelButton 8
EndSection

Even though the mouse works normally, these lines at the end of Xorg.log make
me suspect that something is still not right:

[  5223.204] (II) config/udev: Adding input device ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer 
Mouse (/dev/input/mouse0)
[  5223.204] (**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Applying InputClass 
pointer
[  5223.204] (**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: always reports core events
[  5223.204] (**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Device: /dev/input/mouse0
[  5223.204] (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[  5223.204] (II) UnloadModule: evdev
[  5223.204] (EE) PreInit returned NULL for ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse

Are those errors something to worry about?

Thanks!

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[xorg-server-1.9.2.902] How to set EmulateWheelButton with no hal?

2010-12-25 Thread walt

Hi xorg list, and Happy Holidays to you all.

I just updated xorg-server from 1.7.x to 1.9.2.902.  Everything works
as expected except for my unusual mouse, which has many buttons but no
wheel.

Until now I've been using a hal fdi file to set EmulateWheelButton to 8,
but now hal is gone, so what to do instead?

I have no InputDevice sections in xorg.conf because I've been using evdev
and my custom hal fdi file to configure the mouse (successfully).

Now I see that xorg is using udev instead of hal to detect the mouse, but
somebody is setting EmulateWheelButton to 4.  Is this now a default value
specified in xorg-server-1.9.x?

I'd like to get the Big Picture so I can configure the mouse using the
right tool for xorg-1.9.x.

Any clues accepted with gratitude and wishes for good holiday cheer :)

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Re: Evdev keyboard sends keycodes but no keysyms

2010-11-14 Thread walt

On 11/14/2010 09:11 AM, Simon Thum wrote:

Hi all,

yesterday I recompiled xorg, updating from a ca. 3 week old install
using gentoo's live ebuilds. I went into an amusing bug which I narrowed
down a bit.

I'm having the following xorg.conf.d fragment:

Section InputClass
 Identifier keyboard-de
 MatchIsKeyboard on
 Option XKBOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
 #Option XKBVariant nodeadkeys
 Option XKBLayout de
EndSection

Funny enough, invoking


setxkbmap -rules evdev -layout de -variant nodeadkeys


brings back my keyboard as intended!


I notice that your Xorg log says

[  4702.616] (**) Option xkb_rules evdev
[  4702.616] (**) Option xkb_model evdev
[  4702.616] (**) Option xkb_layout us    ???
[  4702.616] (**) Option xkb_variant nodeadkeys
[  4702.616] (**) Option xkb_options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

Grepping the xorg.conf manpage for InputClass turns up nothing on
my xorg-1.7.7 machine.  Maybe that's something new?

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Re: Xorg will not start

2010-10-10 Thread walt

On 10/09/2010 02:48 PM, Edmundo Llopis wrote:

I am a newbie to Ubuntu Server 10.04.1 LTS, and I have been struggling for 
weeks to fix Xorg. Every time I type startx the following appears, can someone 
provide specific driving instructions to fix this problem.

X.Org http://X.Org X Server 1.7.6
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sat Oct 9 17:37:46 2010
(==) Using config directory: /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d

Backtrace:
0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x28) [0x4a3258]


What do you have in /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ?

Instead of typing 'startx', what happens if you type (as root) 'Xorg 
-configure' ?
Or 'Xorg -help' ?

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Re: X freezing occasionally [nouveau bug SOLVED]

2010-09-06 Thread walt

On 08/07/2010 05:34 PM, walt wrote:

Hi list,

Both times X has locked up, firefox was just starting to load a web page
that I'd clicked on. (Two different websites.)

I can ssh into the machine and use top to see /usr/bin/Xorg using 100%
of CPU (an older single-core amd 32-bit cpu)



Strace shows Xorg is printing endless numbers of the messages below:
ioctl(7, 0x40086482, 0xbffdc7c8) = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be restarted)
--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) ---
sigreturn() = ? (mask now [])

Kernel is today's Linus.git with its (unmodified) nouveau support.


My freezing problem was fixed by this patch:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=38240

I'm following up here because the patch still hasn't made it to Linus.git
as of today, 2010-Sep-06.

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X freezing occasionally

2010-08-07 Thread walt

Hi list,

This freezing problem happened once yesterday for the first time, and
(so far) only once today, so it's not easy to reproduce.

I'm running an oddball gemisch of stable and unstable software, so it's
definitely not a supported configuration.

I'm not at all surprised this is happening, but I thought I'd ask for your
observations anyway.

Both times X has locked up, firefox was just starting to load a web page
that I'd clicked on.  (Two different websites.)

I can ssh into the machine and use top to see /usr/bin/Xorg using 100%
of CPU (an older single-core amd 32-bit cpu).

Strace shows Xorg is printing endless numbers of the messages below:
ioctl(7, 0x40086482, 0xbffdc7c8)= ? ERESTARTSYS (To be restarted)
--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) ---
sigreturn() = ? (mask now [])

If I'm interpreting correctly, fd 7 is (no surprise):
X  3758   root   7u   CHR   226,0   0t02008 /dev/dri/card0

Now for dessert :)

(II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1280x1024x76.0  141.82  1280 1376 1512 1744  1024 
1025 1028 1070 -hsync +vsync (81.3 kHz)
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop. [Yes, I 
suspected that already.]

Backtrace:
0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x80a169b]
1: /usr/bin/X (mieqEnqueue+0x196) [0x80a14e6]
2: /usr/bin/X (xf86PostMotionEventP+0xe8) [0x80b4958]
3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (0xb69da000+0x3321) [0xb69dd321]
4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (0xb69da000+0x35c9) [0xb69dd5c9]
5: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x663bf) [0x80ae3bf]
6: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0xea23c) [0x813223c]
7: (vdso) (__kernel_sigreturn+0x0) [0xb76f5400]
8: /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2 (drmCommandWrite+0x3b) [0xb715986b]
9: /usr/lib/libdrm_nouveau.so.1 (0xb7176000+0x2e12) [0xb7178e12]
10: /usr/lib/libdrm_nouveau.so.1 (nouveau_bo_map_range+0xf1) [0xb7179001]
11: /usr/lib/libdrm_nouveau.so.1 (nouveau_bo_map+0x33) [0xb71790d3]
12: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so (0xb712c000+0x4eca) 
[0xb7130eca]
13: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so (0xb70fa000+0x7602) [0xb7101602]
14: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0xaa26d) [0x80f226d]
15: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x43d6e) [0x808bd6e]
16: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x464ff) [0x808e4ff]
17: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1ddf5) [0x8065df5]
18: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xe6) [0xb721bbb6]
19: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1d9a1) [0x80659a1]

Kernel is today's Linus.git with its (unmodified) nouveau support.
x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau-0.0.16_pre20100615 (gentoo linux)
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.4.0
x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.21
x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.7-r1

My real question is: how likely is this freezing to be caused by an actual bug
somewhere, or is it more likely that my odd mix of package versions just don't
play nicely together.

BTW, I'm just doing all of this learn something, not to build a production 
machine.
I can afford to tinker with it a bit :)

Thanks.

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Re: X freezing occasionally

2010-08-07 Thread walt

On 08/07/2010 05:51 PM, Younes Manton wrote:

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 8:34 PM, waltw41...@gmail.com  wrote:



This freezing problem happened once yesterday for the first time, and
(so far) only once today, so it's not easy to reproduce.



Kernel is today's Linus.git with its (unmodified) nouveau support.
x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau-0.0.16_pre20100615 (gentoo linux)
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.4.0
x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.21
x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.7-r1



If you're running an NV50 class card it's likely one of two known bugs
in Nouveau and not your software environment. Look for something like
the following in your log:

[drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Detected an NV50 generation card (0x)


Oops, I forgot to mention the hardware, sorry.  It's actually older than
that.  I rescued the video card from the trashcan beside my brother-in-law's
gaming machine over a year ago :)

nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] rev 161

I just thought of a few more experiments I can do to narrow down the diagnosis.

Thanks for your quick reply.

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Re: Tk installation give Xproto.h Xresource.h missing

2010-05-22 Thread walt

On 05/21/2010 01:53 PM, Claudio Cairoli wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to install Tcl/tk 8.4.2 on a 64-bit Linux machine, and the installation of tcl 
went fine, however when trying to install tk at first I got the error message 
X11/Xlib.h not found. I looked for it in the X11 directory at it wasn't 
there. I
found out that as part of the tk installation there was a directory xlib which contained 
X11/Xlib.h that fixed that error, but now I am getting Xproto.h and Xresource.h 
missing.
Where are these files supposed to be and how do I get them?


They should be in /usr/include/X11/.  My linux distribution puts Xresource.h 
and Xlib.h
in the libX11 package, and Xproto.h in a separate package named xproto 
(contains only
header files).

Many distributions put header files in separate packages with the suffix dev or 
devel
in the package name, e.g. libX11-dev or something similar.


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Re: multiple monitors configuration without proprietary driver

2010-04-11 Thread walt

On 04/09/2010 07:14 AM, Luis Alberto Padrón Hernández wrote:

Hello Everybody,



I have not been able to get 'nvidia' driver to work, so I need to set my
two monitors with 'nv' driver...


What is the problem with 'nvidia'?  Will it work with a single monitor?



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Re: nouveau and /dev/dri ? [solved]

2010-04-06 Thread walt

On 04/05/2010 03:44 PM, walt wrote:


I can't get mesa-7.8 to compile nouveau_dri.so because the gentoo build
is ignoring the gallium useflag.

ATM glxgears is giving me ~275 FPS, same as the 'nv' driver. Is this
because of the missing nouveau_dri.so, maybe?


Just for the record, the answer is no.  I got nouveau_dri.so compiled by
hand and it loads perfectly, no error messages of any kind in the X logs,
but glxgears still runs very slowly.

It was a fun experiment, but now I have to get back to work :)

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Re: nouveau and /dev/dri ? [solved]

2010-04-05 Thread walt

On 04/05/2010 10:02 AM, walt wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying nouveau for the first time on amd64 and it's almost but not
quite working.

The problem is that /dev/dri/ doesn't get created, and I don't know why.


I continued to try different kernel config options and got it working,
though I'm not sure what made the difference.  In retrospect the console
framebuffer was not really working before, but it obviously works now.

I can't get mesa-7.8 to compile nouveau_dri.so because the gentoo build
is ignoring the gallium useflag.

ATM glxgears is giving me ~275 FPS, same as the 'nv' driver. Is this
because of the missing nouveau_dri.so, maybe?

Thanks.

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Re: [xmodmap] Problem with e and n

2009-11-23 Thread walt
On 11/23/2009 02:04 AM, Dirk Wallenstein wrote:
 On Sunday 22 November 2009 23:35:29 walt wrote:
 I've mapped my CapsLock key to a plain Shift_L key, using your instructions.
 Here is the output of xev (note the keycode is 66):

 KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x201,
   root 0x189, subw 0x0, time 35504647, (136,79), root:(140,822),
   state 0x0, keycode 66 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
   XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 50
   XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
   XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
   XFilterEvent returns: False

 That part is wonderful, but pressing the Caps Lock key doesn't create upper
 case letters, but pressing the Shift key does.

 Here is the line that I changed in the .xkb file:
   keyCAPS  { [ Shift_L ] };

 What have I missed?


 For modifiers, you have to change the modifier_map entry.

 Currently, it will look like this:
  modifier_map Lock {CAPS  };

 Change it to:
  modifier_map Shift {CAPS  };

Yes!  The wicked CapsLock witch is dead :o)  Thank you.

BTW, I was able to modify the default pc101 easily enough in duttulm to my
desired configuration, but now I have the resulting XML file in ~/.duttulm
and I don't know what to do with it.  What comes next?

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Re: [xmodmap] Problem with e and n

2009-11-22 Thread walt
On 11/16/2009 08:28 AM, Dirk Wallenstein wrote:
 On Sunday 15 November 2009 01:01:49 Maciej Piechotka wrote:

 Everything is working except AltGr+e/E and AltGr+n/N. What is wrong?



 You probably have to change the key types. You can get the current keymap by
 executing this command:

  $  xkbcomp -xkb ${DISPLAY} -o keymap.xkb

 Now edit the resulting file keymap.xkb and find the sections for the keysym
 assignment...

 You have to change the values for the type[groupX] entries. Just take the
 values from the keys that work, and fill in the keysyms.

 You can install the result by executing the following command:

  $  xkbcomp keymap.xkb ${DISPLAY}

Hi Dirk, and thanks for the helpful hints.

I've mapped my CapsLock key to a plain Shift_L key, using your instructions.
Here is the output of xev (note the keycode is 66):

KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x201,
 root 0x189, subw 0x0, time 35504647, (136,79), root:(140,822),
 state 0x0, keycode 66 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
 XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 50
 XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
 XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
 XFilterEvent returns: False

That part is wonderful, but pressing the Caps Lock key doesn't create upper
case letters, but pressing the Shift key does.

Here is the line that I changed in the .xkb file:
 key CAPS { [ Shift_L ] };

What have I missed?

Thanks!




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Re: libXext 1.1.1

2009-10-22 Thread walt
On 10/21/2009 08:36 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

   -Alan Coopersmith-   alan.coopersm...@sun.com
Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

Hi Alan,

I'm guessing that the email address as it appears above is the reason that
some of your digital signatures are rejected by gpg at my end.  The posts
that are accepted as genuine show your sun.com address instead.

I'm puzzled by the randomness of the problem, though.  Do you sometimes
post through gmane.org and sometimes not?

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] xorg-cf-files 1.0.3

2009-10-16 Thread walt
On 10/14/2009 10:46 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

Hi Alan.  Just FYI, I'm having trouble with roughly three out of four
of your digital signatures, and I have no idea why.

Of the three signed posts you made dated 10/14, this is the only one
that passes my mail client's gpg sig test.

I exported your xclipboard message to disk as an example:

$gpg --verify xclipboard\ 1.1.0.eml
gpg: Signature made Wed 14 Oct 2009 10:48:55 PM PDT using DSA key ID 1F2D130E
gpg: BAD signature from Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com

Is anyone else having this problem?


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Re: pgp signatures

2009-10-16 Thread walt
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
 Robby Workman wrote:
 Fine for me:

 $ gpg --verify AlanC-mail 
 gpg: Signature made Wed 14 Oct 2009 12:46:45 PM CDT using DSA key ID 1F2D130E
 gpg: Good signature from Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com
 
 They seem to come back fine for me too, though the automatic signature 
 appending
 of the mailing list does cause it to be a bit weird.   I use the enigmail 
 plugin
 for Thunderbird, which calls gpg for the actual signing, to sign the mails.

Yes, I do too, but my versions of enigmail (0.96.0) and gpg (2.0.11) are a tiny
bit newer than yours. I hope such small changes are not the cause of my problem.

I tried a different linux distribution (ubuntu versus gentoo) and I find exactly
the same problem on both.

 ...
 One of these years we should have a key signing party at the X.Org Developer's
 Conference.   Though I suppose I'll be needing a new key before then when my
 e-mail address changes...

Hm. Are you hinting that you'll be getting an Oracle email address?  I'm hoping
it's a change in name only, and not in quality.  We open source groupies owe a
lot to Sun.  Not so sure yet about Oracle...

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Re: Radical idea for X-modmap problem.

2009-07-29 Thread walt
On 07/28/2009 09:28 PM, Mikhail Gusarov wrote:

 Twas brillig at 16:56:51 28.07.2009 UTC-07 when w41...@gmail.com did gyre and 
 gimble:

   w  I'm wondering about the connection from terminal to server, and how
   w  much bandwidth would be typical for such a setting...

 Have a look at network requirements of LTSP:
 http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html#tc-hardware

That's an excellent link, thank you. It answers questions I didn't
even know I had :o)

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Re: Radical idea for X-modmap problem.

2009-07-28 Thread walt
On 07/28/2009 10:18 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
 Being strictly an amateur programmer, I've always wondered how many
 people/institutions actually use X for remote display the way it was
 designed to be used.

 Quite a lot.  In universities in crowded city centers, it is quite
 common to have students work on (fan-less) X terminals, with a large
 server pool hidden somewhere in the basement.  (Nowadays, the servers
 are fairly ordinary PCs running Linux, with a few Solaris machines to
 make the older system administrators happy.)...

Very useful info, and thanks to everyone who answered. (I'm afraid to ask
how old is 'older'.) (Grad students, maybe?)

I'm wondering about the connection from terminal to server, and how much
bandwidth would be typical for such a setting. (I'm assuming that college
students would spent substantial time watching X-rated videos on their
X-terminals ;-)

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Re: Radical idea for X-modmap problem.

2009-07-27 Thread walt
On 07/26/2009 01:56 PM, Jim Gettys wrote:
 David Moffatt wrote:
 Responding to the thread about mapping hardware scan codes --  X key
 codes and keyboards with  248 keys.

 Perhaps the solution is to take the hardware scan code --  Symbol
 problem out of the X layer entirely.  Let the OS deal with that in its
 own manner.


 X already does this: keycodes in X have no need to be even remotely
 similar to what the operating system does, or what the hardware generates.

 Keycodes on various other platforms may have values that bear no
 resemblance to the codes used in Linux, or in IBM derivative keyboards...

Being strictly an amateur programmer, I've always wondered how many
people/institutions actually use X for remote display the way it was
designed to be used.  Seems to introduce a great deal of confusing
complexity for features many of us never use.

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Re: evdev+hal = Too many input devices.

2009-07-07 Thread walt
On 07/06/2009 08:24 PM, Peter Hutterer wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 10:08:50PM +0200, Łukasz Maśko wrote:
 Dnia poniedziałek, 6 lipca 2009, Peter Hutterer napisał:
 On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 09:26:06AM +0200, Łukasz Maśko wrote:
 Dnia poniedziałek, 6 lipca 2009, Peter Hutterer napisał:
 [...]

 Please attach the whole log, this snippet is not really useful for
 finding the root of the problem.

 Here it is.

 urgh, not as zip file please. Always attach files to bugreports or
 mailinglists uncompressed - the harder you make it for someone to look at
 the file the lower the chances that someone does.

 Sorry, but the log file after 14 days has200KB, therefore I didn't attach
 it to my mail uncompressed.

 if the file is really as long as you claim, check for add/remove devices.

 There is nothing suspicious in the part before the logs, that I've written
 about yesterday. Besides, everything had worked till then.

 I remember a bluetooth bug where devices never get removed, so each time
 the mouse connected it would be added as new device - with the old one
 still staying there.

 Everytime I hibernate, I stop the bluetooth susbsystem and unload USB
 modules - required by tuxonice. So it would have been be strange, if the
 counter was increased and not reseted while subsystem restart.
 If I come accross this problem again I'll check, if the mouse stops working
 under console.

 try exactly that then - restarting bluetooth or usb over and over again. the
 server-internal counter is at 20 (40 in git) so it's easy enough to trigger.

 if you're running a git server, just run xinput --create-master foo a few
 times to increase the number of devices already present. this way the
 the error will happen sooner.

Just wondering if lshal would also reflect the increasing number of mice?

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Re: evdev+hal = Too many input devices.

2009-07-05 Thread walt
On 07/05/2009 01:41 PM, Łukasz Maśko wrote:
 I have a Kingston BT mouse, which works pretty well with my Linux laptop. At
 least it has worked so far, becouse this is what I'm getting in log files
 right now, when I turn it on:

 (II) config/hal: Adding input device Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse
 (**) Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse: always reports core events
 (**) Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse: Device: /dev/input/event10
 (II) Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse: Found 3 mouse buttons
 (II) Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
 (II) Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse: Found scroll wheel(s)
 (II) Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse: Found keys
 (II) Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse: Configuring as mouse
 (II) Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse: Configuring as keyboard
 (**) Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
 (**) Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4,
 EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
 (EE) Too many input devices. Ignoring Primax Corp. (3) Button Mouse
 (II) UnloadModule: evdev

Do you have the mouse driver in your xorg.conf?
 Identifier  Mouse1
 Driver  mouse  ===  This is not needed if you use evdev.
(Same for the keyboard driver.)

Try commenting out the entire Input section if you have one.

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Re: Strange issue with hal and Xorg

2009-06-12 Thread walt
Matt Hayes wrote:
 Dan Nicholson wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Matt Hayesdomin...@slackadelic.com  wrote:
 Hrm.. so where the heck is the 32 buttons coming from?  That's very
 odd and causes mapping of buttons to be a pita.
 The evdev driver. Perhaps you were using the mouse driver in xorg.conf?


 That is possible.  I will have to look at changing the mouse driver in a
 hal policy or Xorg.conf and see what that reveals.

I recently switched to using evdev and when I removed the InputDevice sections
from xorg.conf I had to add an fdi file to /etc/hal/fdi/policy (which I cleverly
named 10-x11-logitech.fdi) containing this:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
deviceinfo version=0.2
   device
 match key=info.product contains=ImExPS/2
   merge key=input.x11_options.EmulateWheel type=stringtrue/merge
   merge key=input.x11_options.EmulateWheelButton type=string8/merge
 /match
   /device
/deviceinfo

I constructed that file by looking at mouse-oriented parts of the output of
'lshal' and just stuck the options in where it looked reasonable.

It worked, and I'm still amazed.

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Re: Strange issue with hal and Xorg

2009-06-12 Thread walt
Justin Mattock wrote:

 Don't want to confuse you, but hal
 is being fazed out.
 udev-142 is now responsible for handling
 volumeid etc...

Auuuggh! Just when I'm beginning to understand hal (but not very well.)

You've confused me too.  How does volumeid relate to a mouse problem?
And which docs should I start reading before this actually happens?

And have a nice weekend :o)

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Re: Help interpreting evdev error messages?

2009-04-08 Thread walt
Peter Hutterer wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 06:52:42PM -0700, walt wrote:
 My linux distribution (gentoo) just updated to xorg-server 1.5.3
 and evdev 2.1.3.

 I have it almost-but-not-quite working...the mouse works except
  for emulate-wheel, which was working before the update.
  ...
 Section InputDevice
   Identifier Mouse0
   Option Device /dev/input/mice

 /dev/input/mice is not an evdev device...

Thanks, that was what I needed. Happily, when I use the correct
device the correct emulate-wheel button is read from xorg.conf.

I still see errors from X, though.  Are these normal?

(**) Option CorePointer
(**) Mouse0: always reports core events
(**) Mouse0: Device: /dev/input/event4
(II) Mouse0: Found 5 mouse buttons
(II) Mouse0: Found x and y relative axes
(II) Mouse0: Configuring as mouse
(**) Option Emulate3Buttons True
(II) Mouse0: Forcing middle mouse button emulation on.
(**) Option EmulateWheel True
(**) Option EmulateWheelButton 8
(**) Mouse0: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Mouse0: EmulateWheelButton: 8, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, 
EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(**) Option CoreKeyboard
(**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
(**) Keyboard0: Device: /dev/input/event3
(II) Keyboard0: Found keys
(II) Keyboard0: Configuring as keyboard
(II) evaluating device (Mouse0)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Mouse0 (type: MOUSE)
(II) evaluating device (Keyboard0)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Keyboard0 (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option xkb_rules evdev
(**) Option xkb_model evdev
(**) Option xkb_layout us    From 10-keymap.fdi? ***
(II) config/hal: Adding input device ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: always reports core events
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Device: /dev/input/event4
(WW) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: device file already in use. Ignoring.
(II) UnloadModule: evdev   ** Is this normal? ***
(EE) PreInit returned NULL for ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed

In spite of these errors the mouse is working perfectly now.

The man page for evdev says nothing about the keyboard, oddly.
My keyboard is not a standard pc105 so some of my keys are cross-
wired, e.g. the up-arrow key sends a PrtScn/SysRq instead. Do I
need to customize 10-keymap.fdi?

(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: /dev/input/event3
(WW) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: device file already in use. Ignoring.
(II) UnloadModule: evdev
(EE) PreInit returned NULL for AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed

Thanks for your help!




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Re: Help interpreting evdev error messages?

2009-04-08 Thread walt
walt wrote:

 My keyboard is not a standard pc105 so some of my keys are cross-
 wired, e.g. the up-arrow key sends a PrtScn/SysRq instead...

Please ignore that part.  I rebooted the machine and the problem
vanished. So now both the keyboard and mouse are working perfectly.

I'd still like to know about the remaining error messages in my
previous post, though, so if you have any ideas I'd be grateful.
Should I just ignore them?

Thanks!

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Help interpreting evdev error messages?

2009-04-07 Thread walt
My linux distribution (gentoo) just updated to xorg-server 1.5.3
and evdev 2.1.3.

I have it almost-but-not-quite working.  The keyboard works
correctly AFAICT and the mouse works except for emulate-wheel,
which was working before the update.

I see these errors from the X server:

(**) Option CorePointer
(**) Mouse0: always reports core events
(**) Mouse0: Device: /dev/input/mice
(EE) ioctl EVIOCGBIT failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
(II) UnloadModule: evdev
(EE) PreInit returned NULL for Mouse0
(**) Option CoreKeyboard
(**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
(EE) Keyboard0: No device specified.
(II) UnloadModule: evdev
(EE) PreInit returned NULL for Keyboard0
(II) config/hal: Adding input device ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: always reports core events
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Device: /dev/input/event4
(II) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Found 5 mouse buttons **WRONG**
(II) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
(II) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Configuring as mouse
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4,**WRONG** 
EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer 
Mouse (type: MOUSE)
(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: /dev/input/event3
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard 
(type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option xkb_rules evdev
(**) Option xkb_model evdev
(**) Option xkb_layout us

I have this in xorg.conf:
Section InputDevice
 Identifier Keyboard0
 Driver evdev
EndSection

Section InputDevice
 Identifier Mouse0
 Driver evdev
 Option Protocol auto
 Option Device /dev/input/mice
 Option Emulate3Buttons True
 Option EmulateWheel True
 Option EmulateWheelButton 8  ---NOTE
EndSection

As you can see, EmulateWheel is broken because the button has
the wrong value, I'm guessing because the evdev module was un-
loaded for some reason.

I have CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y in my kernel config.

Any idea where I'm going wrong?

Thanks!

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