[Xpert]X Server on W2K.

2001-12-07 Thread Attila Szomor

 On Thursday 06 December 2001 11:09, Attila Szomor wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  We would like to use Kylix on SuSE Linux, but our programmers have W2KP
  computers.
  Can you recommend any X Server Software on Windows which can cooperate
with
  XFree on Linux.

 vncclient and vncserver are pretty cool ;)

Yes they are.

You might want to use a local X server though, even so.
Hummingbird's eXceed wasn't bad a few years ago,
but I note now that XFree86 itself builds and runs under CygWin32 now,
even the server (clients and libs have done so for years).

See:
   http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin

I need to frob Windowmaker in a few more places,
but otherwise I can simulate my laptop pretty well :)

Cheers,

AS

Hi All,

Thanks yours answers !!!

I tried VNC and XOnNet on yesterday, they working well with standard
X-Applications, but unfortunatly do not work with Kylix.
I will try the CygWin on today.

Best Regards,
Attila.

From Error Message seem to incompatible value used by Kylix or Wine.

on XOnNet-XTerm

kylix@suse:~ Generating font matrix. Please wait...
X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for
operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  45 (X_OpenFont)
  Value in failed request:  0x3400061
  Serial number of failed request:  313
  Current serial number in output stream:  314


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Re: [Xpert]Capturing video from X

2001-12-07 Thread J Grant

hello Miles,

I checked the xfree site
http://XFree86.Org/4.1.0/manindex1.html
and some others I found on google.com but none of them mentioned xmon
and xrecord, I could not find it on red hat.com either.
i found

doclib.org - /Linux/XFree86-Current/source/X333src-1 
... xc/lib/Xtst/Xtstos2.def
/Linux/XFree86-Current/source/X333src-1/xc/lib/Xtst/XRecord.c
/Linux/XFree86-Current/source/X333src-1/xc/lib/Xtst/XTest.c
/Linux/XFree86 ... 
http://www.doclib.org/Linux/XFree86-Current/source/X333src-1/ 

but that was not what i thought i was in the end

If you know of a URL to find these programs or a newer solution I would
like to see it please.

Regards

JG


Miles O'Neal wrote:
 
 It's been a long time, so I don't know
 whether they are still around (they
 don't seem to come with Red Hat, anyway)
 but there used to eb a couple of programs
 called xmon and xrecord.  You might see
 if they have been upgraded to a current
 release...
 
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[Xpert]to dri or not to dri

2001-12-07 Thread safemode

I've been told that not enabling dri allows you to use more mem for 2d,
speeding it up if you're using all your mem.  But what about E's use of
canvas in E17.  It uses OpenGL to hardware accel certain things.  Would
this still be hardware accelled without dri?  on a 32MB card does 2d
memory really become an issue at any time? does DRI do any speed accel
to 2d at all outside of OpenGL?  



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Re: [Xpert]Capturing video from X

2001-12-07 Thread J Grant

Hello,

I have just checked and it seems this is not the right tool to make a
video from X.

Could you recomend a prgram that can generate a video output from X ?
even in vector format as long as I can play it back.

JG

Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
 
 On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, J Grant wrote:
 
  hello Miles,
 
  I checked the xfree site
  http://XFree86.Org/4.1.0/manindex1.html
  and some others I found on google.com but none of them mentioned xmon
  and xrecord, I could not find it on red hat.com either.
 
  If you know of a URL to find these programs or a newer solution I would
  like to see it please.
 
 http://www.x.org/contrib/devel_tools/xmon.1.5.6.tar.gz
 seems to be the xmon you are looking for.
 
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[Xpert]info need abt Upper/Lower layers in VGA cards

2001-12-07 Thread Ba la

Hi,
   I want to know abt some deatils of VGA cards like
Upper/Lower layers,  I am new to this graphics area

  *is it commen in all VGA cards or  this type of
layers are available only specific cards.

 *where can I find this type of information???, point
me some web links...

 * Is it possible to program to use Upper (or) Lower
layers aloen.


-Bala-


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Re: [Xpert]Help with CyberBladeXPAi1 (Trident) on a Toshiba 1800-814 laptop

2001-12-07 Thread Egbert Eich

Olivier Fourdan writes:
  Egbert
  
  
   If trident works it is better as it is accelerated. 
   Vesa uses the BIOS and allows mode switching - but it is
   unacceled. It may still have quirks. fbdev is so simple
   it should always work - but unaccelerated.
  
  
  I think I may have found something interesting (thus I copy the list ;-)
  
  1) Using Vesa driver works.
  2) Passing vga=790 or vga=791 or even vga=792 at linux kernel and using 
  Trident driver *works* but it's very slooow, a lot slower that Vesa 
  driver, in 24bpp and 16bpp -I didn't try 8bpp-

Yes, there is no acceleration. We don't get the docs from trident to
implement it. Accel in the XP chipset has just changed enough that
the accel support for the earlier chips dosn't work any more.

  3) Never use vga=xxx and Vesa XFree driver all together. It seems to be 
  dangerous for the LCD display (use either normal textmode with XFree 
  Vesa driver or fb text mode with XFree trident driver, but *not* fb text 
  mode and Vesa driver !)

This is surprising!

  
  What's puzzling me is why the trident driver with vga=xxx is so slow. I 
  include my XF86Config file so you can check and see by yourself (note 
  that I define all 3 devices, vesa, trident and fbdev and select the one 
  I want by uncommenting the right line in the screen section)

For some reason the driver didn't attempt to register mtrr ranges.
I'm investigating.

Egbert.
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Re: [Xpert]SiS630 and LCD

2001-12-07 Thread Egbert Eich

Stuart Young writes:
  At 07:01 PM 6/12/01 +0100, Egbert Eich wrote:
  I've looked at it - you only offer binary drivers.
  However I think I know what you do. Your patch is pretty similar to
  the VESAFbHack patch posted a while ago.
  
  The VesaFBHack patch, which was my little effort at re-implementing the 
  patch posted to this list by Kirill Konyagin (back in July 2001), may have 
  been based on the same work as Rene, or Rene's work was based upon it. I 
  simply put it into a form that allowed the user to easily enable/disable 
  it. It also meant that if it was fixed, a config file change was not really 
  necessary (something I was looking at, as I was investigating rolling these 
  out into a production environment, and the less changes in the future, the 
  better).

Right. Your patch was OK. I'm thinking about adding it for 4.2.
I doubt that I will be able to implement the BIOS initialization
stuff. For the SiS to fully work with int10 I may have to modify some
stuff in there code. I won't do that before 4.2 comes out.

  
  I'm thinking of something different: sis_bios.c is converted BIOS code
  anyway. Since we have the int10 infrastructure we can use it to
  run the real BIOS and eliminate much of the code in sis_bios.c.
  
  You might find that a lot of the code in the XFree driver is now the same 
  as that in the Linux Kernel FrameBuffer for the SiS630 chip, so some common 
  development here could be a definite advantage.

I suggested this a long time ago. The problem was that kernel code
was under GPL while ours was under an MIT style license.

  
  Something I have noticed as a difference between the VesaFB and SiSFB 
  drivers in the Linux kernel, is that the VesaFB driver does it's init as 
  absolutely early as it can, as the routines to change resolution have to be 
  performed (afaik) in real mode, not in protected or virtual modes.
  

AFAIK there is a way now to change VESA video modes on the fly.

I tryed to get docu from sis - even considering signing a NDA - but
suddenly the email thread with them stopped ... ? - They so not seem to be
interested in getting the chip to work properly under Linux ...
  
  :-(
  I would certainly love to have better docs for the graphics part of
  the 630 than there are in the 630 datasheet.
  
  I got very little response from SiS, to very similar or the same queries 
  (re: docs, NDA, sample code, etc). The company I work for wants to use a 
  machine made by Clevo (a Taiwanese company) as a Point of Sale terminal 
  (it's a desktop with an LCD screen, and very small footprint), but with the 
  current problems we have with the SiS630 chipset (if not resolved soon), we 
  will simply have to turn down the product as another good idea, bad 
  implementation. Pity really, as the cost was reasonable, and the options 
  on the product were ideal for our market.
  

The problems can be resolved very quickly by using the video BIOS. 
The problem is we are past feature freeze for the 4.2 and I don't 
want to make modification to int10 code at this late stage. Int10 
is quite touchy. If I get something wrong I'll have to take the 
blame.

Egbert.
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Re: [Xpert]Corrected: Odd problem with Xfree 4.1.0 and Trident TGUI 9680

2001-12-07 Thread Egbert Eich

Mac Cody writes:
  
  
  Egbert Eich wrote:
   
   This looks like a problem with some 2D Accel functions.
   Try to disable accel altogether by setting
   Option NoAccel
   in the device section and see if it goes
   away.
   
   Egbert.
   
  
  That was one of the first things I tried last night,
  but it didn't have an affect.  I uncommented the
  entry in my XF86Config file so it read:
  
  Option NoAccel
  
  I didn't state either true or false since the
  XF86Config man page indicated that the above was
  equivalent to Option NoAccel false.

No, that's OK.

  
  Any other suggestions?
  

If the problem also appears with noaccel then everything drawn to the 
screen including the original root window pattern should show this
'enlargement' behavior.  Is this correct?

Right off hand I have no idea what the problem may be.

Alan, do you have any idea?

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Re: [Xpert]to dri or not to dri

2001-12-07 Thread Michel Dänzer

On Fri, 2001-12-07 at 09:46, safemode wrote:
 I've been told that not enabling dri allows you to use more mem for 2d,

That's true for the current static buffer allocation scheme. AFAIK it is
planned to make it dynamic eventually, no idea about when though.

 speeding it up if you're using all your mem.  But what about E's use of
 canvas in E17.  It uses OpenGL to hardware accel certain things.  Would
 this still be hardware accelled without dri?

Hardly. It can use X11 primitives but that looks rather ugly in the
demos I've seen.

 on a 32MB card does 2d memory really become an issue at any time?

The log should contain detailed information about how much memory is
reserved for what. In particular, a diff between logs with and without
DRI is rather interesting.

 does DRI do any speed accel to 2d at all outside of OpenGL?  

Basically, 2D acceleration should be about the same with or without DRI.
It looks like it's exactly the same for the mga driver. The r128 and
radeon drivers have slightly worse 2D acceleration with DRI enabled, I
might change that unless someone beats me to it. Don't know about other
drivers.


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Re: [Xpert]SiS630 and LCD

2001-12-07 Thread Braustein Alfredo

 Braunstein Alfredo writes:
 Did you have the same setup on the old version?
 How much video memory do you have? 
 Could you please send the entire log file?
 If you have a log file from the old version (were 3D worked) could you
 please send this one, too?
 
 Regards,
   Egbert.

Hi there.

Here I attach full logs of 2 running sessions. 'log.cvs' and
'log.vesafbhack'. The setup is exactly the same for the two of them except
for sis_drv.o and booting with or without the vesa fb, respectively.
First case is sis_drv.o from latest CVS. The other one is that one using the
VESA fb hack.

I'm using
Xfree CVS from 3-4 weeks ago. Note that I've only updated Egbert changes on
the sis/ directory and nothing else; I am on a slow link at home. If you
consider that it's definitely worth trying, I am willing to do a full CVS
update.

On the first case, (vesa framebufer), 3D accel seems to work. I say
seems because Mesa demos work. I think Hw accel is being used because the
gears in 'gears' have some glitches, like bad poligon superpositions, which
I would find strange in a software-only renderer, But I may be wrong. How
can I check for sure that Hw acceleration is being used?

On the other case I get a 'not enough video mem' error, like I've said in a
previous mail, when I run any Mesa demo. I've tried changing the video
memory to 8Mb, 16Mb and 32Mb with no success. I'm currently using 8Mb for
both tests (as you can see from the logs).

Other differences: On the first case I get a strange xterm cursor, like:

#
#  #
#  #
#  #
#

instead of a rectangle.

On the second case it is gone (ok). Also I've observed a corrupted first
line of the screen, but after a full reinstall It seems to have gone for
both cases.

This is the (I think) relevant differences between both logs:

16c16
 (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Fri Dec  7 13:31:58 2001
---
 (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Fri Dec  7 13:34:48 2001
82c82
   compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.6.0
---
   compiled for 4.1.99.1, module version = 0.6.0
208a212
 (II) SIS(0): Mode # 0x4a
211,212c215,216
 (II) SIS(0): [drm] added 4096 byte SAREA at 0xd08c8000
 (II) SIS(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xd08c8000 to 0x40028000
---
 (II) SIS(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xd00c7000
 (II) SIS(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xd00c7000 to 0x40028000
247,248d250
 cursor_addr value: 0
 cursor_addr value: 23
250c252
 (II) SIS(0): [drm] unmapping 4096 bytes of SAREA 0xd08c8000 at 0x40028000
---
 (II) SIS(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xd00c7000 at 0x40028000


I hope that this reports can help you! If you need me to do any other test,
just tell me.






log.lastcvs.gz
Description: Binary data


log.vesafbhack.gz
Description: Binary data


Re: [Xpert]Corrected: Odd problem with Xfree 4.1.0 and Trident TGUI 9680

2001-12-07 Thread Mac Cody



Egbert Eich wrote:
 
 Mac Cody writes:
  
  
   Egbert Eich wrote:
   
This looks like a problem with some 2D Accel functions.
Try to disable accel altogether by setting
Option NoAccel
in the device section and see if it goes
away.
   
Egbert.
   
  
   That was one of the first things I tried last night,
   but it didn't have an affect.  I uncommented the
   entry in my XF86Config file so it read:
  
   Option NoAccel
  
   I didn't state either true or false since the
   XF86Config man page indicated that the above was
   equivalent to Option NoAccel false.
---This should actually be true--^
 
 No, that's OK.
 
  
   Any other suggestions?
  
 
 If the problem also appears with noaccel then everything drawn to the
 screen including the original root window pattern should show this
 'enlargement' behavior.  Is this correct?

The original root window pattern and the mouse look
correct.  That is the odd thing about this problem.

 
 Right off hand I have no idea what the problem may be.
 
 Alan, do you have any idea?
 
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Re: [Xpert]Corrected: Odd problem with Xfree 4.1.0 and Trident TGUI 9680

2001-12-07 Thread Mac Cody



Alan Hourihane wrote:
 
 On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 12:05:00PM +0100, Egbert Eich wrote:
  Mac Cody writes:
   
   
Egbert Eich wrote:

 This looks like a problem with some 2D Accel functions.
 Try to disable accel altogether by setting
 Option NoAccel
 in the device section and see if it goes
 away.

 Egbert.

   
That was one of the first things I tried last night,
but it didn't have an affect.  I uncommented the
entry in my XF86Config file so it read:
   
Option NoAccel
   
I didn't state either true or false since the
XF86Config man page indicated that the above was
equivalent to Option NoAccel false.
 
  No, that's OK.
 
   
Any other suggestions?
   
 
  If the problem also appears with noaccel then everything drawn to the
  screen including the original root window pattern should show this
  'enlargement' behavior.  Is this correct?
 
  Right off hand I have no idea what the problem may be.
 
  Alan, do you have any idea?
 
 None. A screenshot would be useful.

I'll work on that and send it out later today.  Thinking
about that, though, what utility should I use to obtain
it?  Should I use xwd or something else?

 Alan.
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Re: [Xpert]Corrected: Odd problem with Xfree 4.1.0 and Trident TGUI 9680

2001-12-07 Thread Alan Hourihane

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:03:12AM -0600, Mac Cody wrote:
 I'll work on that and send it out later today.  Thinking
 about that, though, what utility should I use to obtain
 it?  Should I use xwd or something else?
 
Whatever works to show what your seeing.

Alan.
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[Xpert]tdfx_driver.c and video BIOS settings

2001-12-07 Thread Simon Harvey

I've been having problems for a while with my Voodoo3 2000PCI and XFree86
(what I thought was overheating:
http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2001-August/010690.html )

Having searched through tdfx_driver.c in CVS, and looked at the
voodoo3_spec pdf, I'm pretty sure the problem is due to the memory delay
settings.

The defaults given for the DRAMINIT1 register in the 3dfx specs seem to
differ from those in the actual BIOS if the following info is correct:
http://www.v3info.de/english/html/memdocs.shtml

Specifically Bit13 (sg_clk_nodelay) is clear, not set as in tdfx_driver,
and depending on the BIOS, various delays are imposed on reading from the
SGRAM (set by bits 19-16). The oflop_del_adj bits differ too. I've a
V3-2000PCI, BIOS 2.15.06, btw.

It's entirely possible I haven't got a clue about any of this but couldn't
the BIOS value for DRAMINIT1 be left unchanged unless some XF86Config
setting says otherwise? The we've never had a problem with them [V3/V5]
comment in the source made me smile. The lack of any fan near my V3
probably just exacerbates any marginal memory access settings; the hard
lockup only occurs in a program which uses nearly 100% of texture memory
and has very low CPU overhead (84fps in 1024x768) - and never a problem in
Win98.

Please tell me if I'm wrong; I'm not sure who's currently working on this
driver,

Simon Harvey
Whittle Lab., Cambridge, UK.

System: 366MHz Celeron, Voodoo3 2000PCI, 96MB RAM, Linux Kernel 2.4.13


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Re: [Xpert]tdfx_driver.c and video BIOS settings

2001-12-07 Thread Alan Hourihane

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 05:27:06PM +, Simon Harvey wrote:
 I've been having problems for a while with my Voodoo3 2000PCI and XFree86
 (what I thought was overheating:
 http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2001-August/010690.html )
 
 Having searched through tdfx_driver.c in CVS, and looked at the
 voodoo3_spec pdf, I'm pretty sure the problem is due to the memory delay
 settings.
 
 The defaults given for the DRAMINIT1 register in the 3dfx specs seem to
 differ from those in the actual BIOS if the following info is correct:
 http://www.v3info.de/english/html/memdocs.shtml
 
 Specifically Bit13 (sg_clk_nodelay) is clear, not set as in tdfx_driver,
 and depending on the BIOS, various delays are imposed on reading from the
 SGRAM (set by bits 19-16). The oflop_del_adj bits differ too. I've a
 V3-2000PCI, BIOS 2.15.06, btw.
 
 It's entirely possible I haven't got a clue about any of this but couldn't
 the BIOS value for DRAMINIT1 be left unchanged unless some XF86Config
 setting says otherwise? The we've never had a problem with them [V3/V5]
 comment in the source made me smile. The lack of any fan near my V3
 probably just exacerbates any marginal memory access settings; the hard
 lockup only occurs in a program which uses nearly 100% of texture memory
 and has very low CPU overhead (84fps in 1024x768) - and never a problem in
 Win98.
 
 Please tell me if I'm wrong; I'm not sure who's currently working on this
 driver,
 
Simon,

This is already fixed in CVS, either use that or wait for 4.2.0.

Alan.
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Re: [Xpert]tdfx_driver.c and video BIOS settings

2001-12-07 Thread Alan Hourihane

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 05:27:06PM +, Simon Harvey wrote:
 I've been having problems for a while with my Voodoo3 2000PCI and XFree86
 (what I thought was overheating:
 http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2001-August/010690.html )
 
 Having searched through tdfx_driver.c in CVS, and looked at the
 voodoo3_spec pdf, I'm pretty sure the problem is due to the memory delay
 settings.
 
 The defaults given for the DRAMINIT1 register in the 3dfx specs seem to
 differ from those in the actual BIOS if the following info is correct:
 http://www.v3info.de/english/html/memdocs.shtml
 
 Specifically Bit13 (sg_clk_nodelay) is clear, not set as in tdfx_driver,
 and depending on the BIOS, various delays are imposed on reading from the
 SGRAM (set by bits 19-16). The oflop_del_adj bits differ too. I've a
 V3-2000PCI, BIOS 2.15.06, btw.
 
 It's entirely possible I haven't got a clue about any of this but couldn't
 the BIOS value for DRAMINIT1 be left unchanged unless some XF86Config
 setting says otherwise? The we've never had a problem with them [V3/V5]
 comment in the source made me smile. The lack of any fan near my V3
 probably just exacerbates any marginal memory access settings; the hard
 lockup only occurs in a program which uses nearly 100% of texture memory
 and has very low CPU overhead (84fps in 1024x768) - and never a problem in
 Win98.
 
 Please tell me if I'm wrong; I'm not sure who's currently working on this
 driver,
 
Ooops. Noticed you've got a V3 and not a Banshee.

If you change that ifdef to PCI_CHIP_VOODOO3 does it help your problem ?

Alan.
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Re: [Xpert]tdfx_driver.c and video BIOS settings

2001-12-07 Thread Simon Harvey

On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 05:27:06PM +, Simon Harvey wrote:
  
  Having searched through tdfx_driver.c in CVS, and looked at the
  voodoo3_spec pdf, I'm pretty sure the problem is due to the memory delay
  settings.
  
  Specifically Bit13 (sg_clk_nodelay) is clear, not set as in tdfx_driver,
  and depending on the BIOS, various delays are imposed on reading from the
  SGRAM (set by bits 19-16). The oflop_del_adj bits differ too. I've a
  V3-2000PCI, BIOS 2.15.06, btw.
  
 Ooops. Noticed you've got a V3 and not a Banshee.
 
 If you change that ifdef to PCI_CHIP_VOODOO3 does it help your problem ?
 
 Alan.
Not sure where you mean. I've been looking at

http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/tdfx/tdfx_driver.c?rev=1.86content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

Around line 498 the DRAMINIT1 register is written to for anything other
than a Banshee. I guess I could change this and try again, but I've never
bothered a full compile of XFree86 on my Celeron; linux kernel takes long
enough.

I emailed Daryll Strauss too, the original author, and just got:

-- Quote --
The problem is that each vendor used different DRAM in their
boards. The actual 3dfx code, would take the value for these registers
from the Windows registry. So, every hardware vendor had different values
they determined and set from software. Leaving them entirely alone from
the BIOS doesn't work, because not all vendors set them correctly in the
BIOS. (That never worked on my cards). We tried picking the least common
denominator type of number, but even that wasn't successful because
setting it too high would break some boards and setting it too low others.

About the only option anyone could come up with was to have a database
of manufacturers and decide what values to use for each one. Mike Harris
(at Red Hat) started to do that by collecting feedback from users, but I
don't think he got much input and hasn't had time to implement what he
did get. It's just a mess.
-- EndQuote --

Do you know if this is still the case? If so I guess the only solution is
cooling...



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[Xpert]Basically: xmfmk, imake and/or make after cvs co?

2001-12-07 Thread PM

Hi,

Should be the most simple of questions, but for the life of me, I can't
figure it out : I have downloaded xfree68 into the xc directory with
`cvs co xc` successfully (head - 10 minutes ago). Now how should I build
it?

With the GNU packages you run ./configure, but there is no such thing here.

I read INSTALL-X.org, and there there are Easy build instructions.

The first step seems to be to do something to site.def. Site.def attempts
to include host.def , and I tried to copy the one from the
programs/./bindist/Linux-ix86/, but then it ended up needing
verison.def. I also tried 'cp site.sample site.def' and combinations of
linux.cf also.

Then the first command line I encounter is make World. But the
xc/Makefile has no target called World, so regardless what I do to
site.def, this will never work with make at this point. I now _know_ I'm
missing something vital.

The Complicated build instructions start with talking about downloading
.tar files. I assume the I need the head revision to get support for my ATI
Radeon Mobility card on my non-linux-compliant laptop. (The whole idea), so
I have no tar files. I assume they contain the same as the xc CVS module.
The first command line mentioned is still make World, so it won't work
since World is still not in Makefile.

I noticed the Imakefile (I've never used imake) and the imake FAQ said
never to run imake directly but run xmkmf instead. xmkmf kept complaining
about not finding Imake.tmpl, and this is only found in the config/cf
directory, so I tried running xmkmf there. That didn't work either as it
ended up needing version.def. I have no idea what to put in it, so I tried
'touch version.def'. Now xmkmf finishes, but World is still not in
Makefile, nor in ../../Makefile.

What am I doing wrong? The whole purpose of imake (according to the FAQ) is
that it should make it real easy. What have I overlooked?

Peter



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Re: [Xpert]Basically: xmfmk, imake and/or make after cvs co?

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Lane

At 01:21 PM 12/7/01, you wrote:
Hi,

Should be the most simple of questions, but for the life of me, I can't
figure it out : I have downloaded xfree68 into the xc directory with
`cvs co xc` successfully (head - 10 minutes ago). Now how should I build
it?
All I do to compile it in redhat is to checkout xc then run make World then 
make install. This has worked every time for me without problems.

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Re: [Xpert]Xinerama questions...

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Mike Belangia wrote:

 Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask about this, but I was sent here
 from #xfree86 on openNet...Anyway, I just configured my x-server for
 xinerama, and it only partialy works.  The first monitor still performs
 fine, but the second monitor only has the gray-default-no-window-manager
 screen but has a application dock in the upper left corner.  The mouse
 also will not move to that monitor.  If you could direct me to the
 appropriate source of aid I would be thrilled.

Sounds like you're not running in Xinerama to me.  That's
just normal multihead without a window manager managing the
second head.  What does xdpyinfo say?


Mark.

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[Xpert]single-button mouse + altgr emulating button 3

2001-12-07 Thread Edwin Huffstutler


Hi -

I have a problem with a single-button mouse on an integrated USB keyboard.
Normal button 1 clicks are fine.  When you hold down altgr and click, you
get button 3, which is fine too.

However, if you follow the sequence:
  - hold down altgr
  - click and hold mouse button
  - release altgr
  - release mouse button

From watching xev, I do not get a button 3 (or even button 1!) release
event.  The system thinks button3 is held down until the next altgr +
click.

This button 3 reporting even happens when Buttons is set to 1 in the
Inputdevice section.

I can tell from debug by printf in input/mouse.c and common/xf86Xinput.c
that it's not the hardware - it's always button 1 that is being reported.

After that, I'm kind of at a loss - I'm not sure how to follow where this
click is being interpreted into button 3.  Don't see anything in the keymap
or digging though xkb, etc.  This is a system using 4.0.1.

Does anyone know where to point me?  Thanks.  I would mainly like to know
where this right button emulation happens in the code, or if this problem
is something fixed/changed in newer releases.

Thanks...

 -Edwin

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[Xpert]Re: When is 4.1.1 (or what will it be?) is scheduled?

2001-12-07 Thread Frédéric L. W. Meunier

Mark Vojkovich wrote:

 4.2.0 is supposed to be this month, but it will likely slip
 into next year (because it always slips).

What about updating http://www.xfree86.org/ ?

4.1.0 is a new full release of XFree86. The next full release
will be 4.2.0, which is scheduled for mid-late November 2001.
If necessary, updates to 4.1.0 will be released before then.
  
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[Xpert]ati radeon ve dvi / 6bit dac ?

2001-12-07 Thread Ed Hudson


howdy.

i'm using the head of the cvs source tree's version 
of the radeon driver.  the analog port uses 8-bit dacs,
but the dvi port only outputs data in 6-bit mode,
ir-respective of settings.  i suspect this is a bug
in the driver.

under dimdoz, with the official ati radeon driver,
i get all bits, so its not a hardware limitation.
any help would be appreciated.

further, i can drive both an analog and digital
monitor simulatneously, and see that the digital
is only in 6-bit mode under XFree86, while the
analog port is indeed in 8-bit mode (24-bit depth
invocation of XFree86)

thanks,

-elh
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[Xpert]Installing xfree86 4.1.99.1 and problems with Radeon Mobility M6 (LY) Chip

2001-12-07 Thread Andres Kwasinski

I have a Compaq 1700 notebook with a Radeon Mobility AGP 4x M6 (LY) 
video chip. I have installed Red Hat Linux 7.2 with XFree86 Version 
4.1.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.1.0-3) and so far I have been unable to 
make it work.

Based on what I have read I understand that I shouldn't have any problem 
if I use Xfree86 Ver.4.1.99.1.

So, my question is in fact some small ones:

- Is it true that with xfree86 Version 4.1.99.1 I would be able to work 
with the Radeon Mobility AGP 4x M6 (LY) video chip?
- If this is the case, how can I download it? ( the ftp server only 
shows ver. 4.1.0.).
- How I install it?
- How I configure my video chip? (is it automatically recognized? is 
there any trick involved?).

Thank you very much in advance for the help,

Andres


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[Xpert]Basically: xmfmk, imake and/or make after cvs co?

2001-12-07 Thread Peter V. Mørch



Ohh, no, this is so embarrassing.

For some reason the xc/Makefile got botched. rm 
Makefile ; cvs update Makefile fixed it and I'm now compiling.

I must have seen an Imakefile and then typed 
"imake", which overwrites the Makefile - leaving me hopelessly lost. Or, more 
likely since we're close to christmas, it must be the elves messing around with 
my Linux box 

On behalf of the elves, I apologize for the noise 
on the list. It compiles fine, I'm sure.

Peter

(P.S.:I apologize ifthis posting doesn't appear correctly in the thread - didn't find a nice 
reply-to link)


[Xpert]MGA G4xx AGP doesn't get soft booted when secondary card ...

2001-12-07 Thread Bill

 I tried installing a G450 AGP in place of my Rage Pro in my desktop
machine at work recently, and was unable to get a picture from the
Matrox card.  It appeared from the server log that the driver couldn't
find the BIOS on the card.

 I'm unable to make this the primary card as the BIOS in the machine
doesn't offer a choice of where to boot VGA from; it's always the PCI
card that comes up as primary video.

 A bit of poking around in the code showed the driver was not actually
reading the BIOS, but it wasn't too obvious why; there was (and still
is) a comment:

Warning! This code currently does not detect a video BIOS

 It looks as though the code has changed a little since I tried this,
but the comment is still there.  Is this a limitation of the hardware
or could I (or someone who has documentation) repair this?  Would it
be as simple as changing a few constants to suit the G4xx cards -- is
the BIOS signature in a different place, or a little different?  I'm
not averse to experimenting.

 Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I'm eager to get this
to work as the ATI card struggles a little at 1600x1200x32@85 ;o)
although it beats some other similar-aged cards I've tried hollow.

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Re: [Xpert][patch] Mach64 tv-out

2001-12-07 Thread volodya


Ahh, wonderful - thanks ! 

 Vladimir Dergachev

On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Leif Delgass wrote:

 I've adapted the experimental tvout code for Radeon/r128 in gatos cvs to
 Mach64 and I'm atttaching the patch (can be applied to atimode.c in ati.2
 or the mach64 DRI branch).  It works for me, but it has the same problem
 of garbling the text console and mode switching with Ctl-Atl-+/- doesn't
 work correctly.  However, I did have success with enabling tv-out even if
 it's not plugged in and detected by the BIOS at boot.  This uses card BIOS
 functions specific to Rage LT Pro (which is what I have), Rage XL, and
 Rage Mobility (mach64 variety), but only if one of these chips is
 detected.  Since the VBE functions are called for each mode switch, I can
 switch between my laptop LCD and TV by switching to a console, plugging in
 or unplugging the TV cable, and switching back to X.  I changed the code
 from Radeon to recognize a display width of 800 (rather than 832), so I
 can use 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 without specifying custom modelines.  
 However, it should also work with custom modelines as long as they use
 640, 800, or 1024 width and 15, 16, or 32 bpp.
 
 This patch is of course rough and experimental, and I've only tested it on
 my setup, so the usual caveats apply -- your tv/monitor might blow up,
 etc.  ;)  Peter, since you worked on the r128 patch, can you take a look
 at this?
 
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 http://www.retinalburn.net
 
 
 

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