Re: [Xpert]1280x1024 resolution causes major flickering

2002-06-07 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I upgraded to the 4.2 version from the 3.3.6.  Previously, I used the
 3.3.6 SVGA server, and ran X in with the resolution set to 1280x1024.
 
 Now, after upgrading, when I try to run X with the 1280x1024, my screen
 shakes and wiggles, especially when I try to resize any windows.
 
 I've tried the --nodri option with Xconfigurator, as well as manually
 commenting out the load DRI section in the XF86Config-4 file.
 
 Any ideas as to what to do?

v3.3 often used a 24bit frame buffer, v4 sometimes uses a 32bit frame 
buffer. Does the following change make any difference ?

 Section Screen
   Identifier Screen0
   Device 3Dfx Interactive, Inc.|Voodoo Banshee
   Monitor Visual Sensa
   DefaultDepth 24
   Subsection Display
   Depth 24

try adding the line:
Fbbpp 24
here

   Modes 1280x1024 1024x768
   EndSubSection
 EndSection

If that doesn't work, can you try a lower refresh rate ?

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RE: [Xpert]TinyX Server

2002-06-07 Thread Q-ha Park

i know... i had the same trouble building TinyX from xfree86 4.2.0.. after
many tries, i just gave up. so i'm still using Xfdev built from 4.1.0 source
tree...

any ideas?? anyone?

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Hi:
I get the Xfree86 4.2.0 tarball and prepare to compile one TinyX server.
I copy the two lines of Micro defines into host.def. After that I run
command
make World . But it doesn't proudce the Xfbdev as Xfree86 4.1.0 tarball
does.
who can tell me what happened to the 4.2.0.
I have tested  it on the Redhat 7.2 and 7.3 (PIII).
Thanks lots.

 Sun  Zongjun

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Re: [Xpert]FireGL 3000 Dual Head

2002-06-07 Thread Alan Hourihane

There shouldn't be any problem there.

Send me a log, and we'll work out what the problem is.

Alan.

On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 10:48:11 +1000, Jasmine Davis wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Is there any way I can make this card work on just one head? I have tried with 
 a single set of the configuration  once the xserver starts, the monitor goes 
 into standby mode.
 
 Jasmine
 
 On Friday 07 June 2002 00:58, Alan Hourihane wrote:
  The FireGL3000's dual head featured isn't supported.
 
  I'm lacking the documentation to enable that feature.
 
  Alan.
 
  On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 12:37:02AM +1000, Jasmine Davis wrote:
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   Hi all,
  
   I am having problems setting up a Diamond FireGL on a SuSE 8.0 box using
   Xfree86 version 4.2.0. The SuSE X config program Sax2 will not function
   with this card without erroring, so I cannot use it to set the card up. I
   have tried to set it up manually but am still having no success though I
   am curious about the line that says BusID 2:4:2 already claimed.
  
   Below is the XF86Config settings  the Xfree86 log. Maybe someone can
   help me with this problem as I am having no luck on the web.
  
   Thanks in advance,
   Jasmine
  
   // start XF86Config //
  
   # /.../
   # SaX generated XFree86 config file
   # Created on: 2002-04-18.
   #
   # Version: 4.3
   # Contact: Marcus Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001
   #
   # Automatically generated by [SaX2] (4.3)
   # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
   #
  
   Section Files
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/Type1
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/japanese:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kwintv
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/misc
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/Type1
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/sgi
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/xtest
 ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
 RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
   EndSection
  
   Section ServerFlags
 Option   AllowMouseOpenFail
   EndSection
  
   Section Module
 Load type1
 Load speedo
 Load extmod
 Load freetype
   EndSection
  
   Section InputDevice
 Driver   keyboard
 Identifier   Keyboard[0]
 Option   AutoRepeat 500 30
 Option   LeftAlt Meta
 Option   Protocol Standard
 Option   RightAlt Meta
 Option   RightCtl Control
 Option   ScrollLock Compose
 Option   XkbLayout us
 Option   XkbModel pc105
 Option   XkbRules xfree86
   EndSection
  
  
   Section InputDevice
 Driver   mouse
 Identifier   Mouse[1]
 Option   Buttons 5
 Option   Device /dev/psaux
 Option   InputFashion Mouse
 Option   Name SCROLL MOUSE
 Option   Protocol IMPS/2
 Option   Vendor MITSUMI
 Option   ZAxisMapping 4 5
   EndSection
  
  
   Section Monitor
 Option   CalcAlgorithm IteratePrecisely
 HorizSync27-70
 Identifier   Monitor[0]
 ModelName701A
 VendorName   HANSOL
 VertRefresh  47-150
 UseModes Modes[0]
   EndSection
  
   Section Monitor
 Option   CalcAlgorithm IteratePrecisely
 HorizSync27-57
 Identifier   Monitor[1]
 ModelNameSyncMaster 551S
 VendorName   SAMSUNG
 VertRefresh  50-90
 UseModes Modes[1]
   EndSection
  
  
   Section Modes
 Identifier   Modes[0]
 Modeline1024x768 61.19 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 775 802
 Modeline1024x768 71.39 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 778 802
 Modeline1024x768 81.59 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 778 802

Re: [Xpert]TinyX Server

2002-06-07 Thread Keith Packard


Around 16 o'clock on Jun 7, Q-ha Park wrote:

 i know... i had the same trouble building TinyX from xfree86 4.2.0.. after
 many tries, i just gave up. so i'm still using Xfdev built from 4.1.0 source
 tree...

The kdrive sources don't build any servers by default, you have to ask for 
each one now. Try adding:

#define XfbdevServerYES
#define XvesaServer YES

to your host.def file.

Keith PackardXFree86 Core TeamHP Cambridge Research Lab


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[Xpert]Appearance in X...

2002-06-07 Thread Xpert

Can anyone shed any light on why KDE looks so bad compared to Windows? The KDE 
fonts are really rough and difficult to read, particularly when they are  
small. I don't know that it is just just the lack of True Type fonts 
(although this is probably a contributing factor) as I have installed a whole 
bunch of Windows TTFs and it has made little difference.

I have tried using True Type fonts and have checked the 
Anti-Aliasing for Fonts box in the KDE Control Centre, but they are still 
quite fuzzy compared to those in Windows.

I am trying to get Red Hat 7.3 installed at my work to replace our network of 
aging Win95 PCs, but I just _know_ that as soon as the staff see the terrible 
fonts that they will reject it out of hand.

I am evaluating Galeon, OpenOffice 1.0 and Evolution as that is all most of 
our office will need, but the appearance compared to IE, MS Office and 
Outlook is terrible.

Can anyone offer any information/advice/website that will help me to get them 
a Windows-quality display?

Regards,
Brad
Brisbane, Australia
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Re: [Xpert]Portrait

2002-06-07 Thread Michel Dänzer

On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 06:39, sun zongjun wrote: 

 I want to rotate XServer with 90 degrees or 180---portrait or 
 landscape display mode.
 How can I do it?

Some drivers support Option Rotate CW (clockwise), CCW (counter
clockwise) or UD (upside down).


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Re: [Xpert]ATI glBitmap rendering bug

2002-06-07 Thread Michel Dänzer

On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 20:15, Joe Krahn wrote: 
 Using glBitmap with ATI DRI driver while the depth test is on
 is resulting in randomly passing/failing each bit, resulting
 in garbage. There are patterns in the pass/fail that make it look
 like a depth lookup is occuring, but in a messed up way.
 Here is a quick demo. Can some other ATI user test this out?
 I am using a current CVS XFree86 on a Radeon. The 4.2 release
 was completely unstable for my Radeon.

Can you try from the DRI CVS, possibly from the tcl-0-0-branch, and
report to the dri-devel list if the problem is still there?


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Re: [Xpert]Appearance in X...

2002-06-07 Thread Pat Suwalski

About 5 months ago I would have agreed with you completely. Since then, 
I've downloaded the Microsoft fonts available on their site. When 
installed, they render identically (except for a few places) as those in 
Windows without anti-aliasing. Verdana and Times New Roman really make a 
difference in X.

--Pat

Xpert wrote:
 Can anyone shed any light on why KDE looks so bad compared to Windows? The KDE 
 fonts are really rough and difficult to read, particularly when they are  
 small. I don't know that it is just just the lack of True Type fonts 
 (although this is probably a contributing factor) as I have installed a whole 
 bunch of Windows TTFs and it has made little difference.
 
 I have tried using True Type fonts and have checked the 
 Anti-Aliasing for Fonts box in the KDE Control Centre, but they are still 
 quite fuzzy compared to those in Windows.
 
 I am trying to get Red Hat 7.3 installed at my work to replace our network of 
 aging Win95 PCs, but I just _know_ that as soon as the staff see the terrible 
 fonts that they will reject it out of hand.
 
 I am evaluating Galeon, OpenOffice 1.0 and Evolution as that is all most of 
 our office will need, but the appearance compared to IE, MS Office and 
 Outlook is terrible.
 
 Can anyone offer any information/advice/website that will help me to get them 
 a Windows-quality display?
 
 Regards,
 Brad
 Brisbane, Australia
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Re: [Xpert]Xinerama public review announcement

2002-06-07 Thread Jens Owen

Mark Vojkovich wrote:
 
 On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Jens Owen wrote:
 
  Mark Vojkovich wrote:
  
   On 6 Jun 2002, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
  
Congratulations.
   
To what extent is the version of Xinerama that X.Org are proposing
compatible with the XFree86 one?
  
  It's a different API and the protocol is not compatible.  XFree86
   will be able to offer both protocols to maintain compatibility with
   the few window managers that currently use our version, but we should
   deprecate the old API and eventually remove it.
 
  Mark,
 
  How much would the XFree86 internal implementation need to change to
  support the proposed API?  Can we minimize the impact to driver
  maintenance and other development intensive areas within XFree86?
 
 
There is no change to the implementation or drivers, just the
 protocol.  The SI is going to be using XFree86's implementation,
 which is mainly why I've been on the X.org Xinerama task force.

That's great news.  Thanks for your hard work.

 Part of the Xinerama task force's goal was to have a fixed implementation
 and I'm glad XFree86's implementation was used as the starting
 point for that.  I've been integrating the additional fixes into
 CVS as they've been developing.  VSW5 is also being modified to
 be Xinerama aware so there should be no failures when everything
 is completed.  We already pass everything except for one issue
 that is still being investigated.
 
There are really only two significant changes:  the protocol
 reflects the ability to have multiple Xinerama screens, though
 no implementations will likely support this for some time.  And
 second, the addition of a XINERAMA_CENTER_HINT which is a root window
 property to tell clients where they should consider the center
 of the screen.  Outside of the Xext protocol interface we need
 to initialize the root window property, and that's about it.
 I'll integrate all that stuff when it's finalized.

Good info.

Regards,
Jens

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[Xpert]Keep locking up my laptop....

2002-06-07 Thread James Hawtin

PCG-C1VFK Sony Vaio Picture book
XFree86 version: 4.2.99.1
3Com 3CCFE575BT Cyclone CardBus

If the network card is inserted before starting X, my laptop either
freezes up or the network card starts giving lots of PCI errors, (about 20
a second ;-) interesting the network card is still working, just getting
lots of errors. If however the network card is inserted after X has been
started, everything works fine, its just qa bit of a pain as I have to
remove the card every time I boot!

There seems to be something in the X boot sequence that is causing
problems, hoping to isolate the problem in the scanning code I though I
would try scanpci however that does not kill it :-(

I have tried to search the web to find solutions to this problem believing
firmly someone out there must have already fixed it, however I have drawn
a blank, so any help/advice/pointers would be greatly received.

James


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Re: [Xpert]Appearance in X...

2002-06-07 Thread Jim.Gettys

Freetype's byte-code hinter may not be turned on on your system,
depending on what distribution you run.  Without it enabled, your font
rendering will look significantly worse than on Windows: with them, it
should be entirely comparable.

Also note that the XftConfig file as shipped by some vendors is badly broken,
so you may not get the behavior you'd like either due to that.
- Jim

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 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 18:41:06 +1000
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 Subject: [Xpert]Appearance in X...
 -
 Can anyone shed any light on why KDE looks so bad compared to Windows? The KDE
 fonts are really rough and difficult to read, particularly when they are 
 small. I don't know that it is just just the lack of True Type fonts
 (although this is probably a contributing factor) as I have installed a whole
 bunch of Windows TTFs and it has made little difference.
 
 I have tried using True Type fonts and have checked the
 Anti-Aliasing for Fonts box in the KDE Control Centre, but they are still
 quite fuzzy compared to those in Windows.
 
 I am trying to get Red Hat 7.3 installed at my work to replace our network of
 aging Win95 PCs, but I just _know_ that as soon as the staff see the terrible
 fonts that they will reject it out of hand.
 
 I am evaluating Galeon, OpenOffice 1.0 and Evolution as that is all most of
 our office will need, but the appearance compared to IE, MS Office and
 Outlook is terrible.
 
 Can anyone offer any information/advice/website that will help me to get them
 a Windows-quality display?
 
 Regards,
 Brad
 Brisbane, Australia
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[Xpert]S-Video ?

2002-06-07 Thread Wu, William

Is S-Video supported? If it is, can someone direct me where I can read more
about it ?

Thanks

-William


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Re: [Xpert]Keep locking up my laptop....

2002-06-07 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, James Hawtin wrote:

 PCG-C1VFK Sony Vaio Picture book
 XFree86 version: 4.2.99.1
 3Com 3CCFE575BT Cyclone CardBus
 
 If the network card is inserted before starting X, my laptop either
 freezes up or the network card starts giving lots of PCI errors, (about 20
 a second ;-) interesting the network card is still working, just getting
 lots of errors. If however the network card is inserted after X has been
 started, everything works fine, its just qa bit of a pain as I have to
 remove the card every time I boot!
 
 There seems to be something in the X boot sequence that is causing
 problems, hoping to isolate the problem in the scanning code I though I
 would try scanpci however that does not kill it :-(

I have a similar problem with my VAIO PCG-F707 (which has a neomagic 
NM2230 graphics chip), but it happens when I stop X.
I've had it with CVS builds since about 1st May.

Please see
http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2002-May/017995.html
which mentions that a fix is in progress, and notes that CVS builds
are not guaranteed to be reliable.
 
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Re: [Xpert]S-Video ?

2002-06-07 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Wu, William wrote:

 Is S-Video supported? If it is, can someone direct me where I can read more
 about it ?
 

   It's entirely up to the driver.  Some support it, some don't.


Mark.

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[Xpert]Re: Appearance in X...

2002-06-07 Thread Mike A. Harris

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Xpert wrote:

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 18:41:06 +1000
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Subject: Appearance in X...

Can anyone shed any light on why KDE looks so bad compared to Windows? The KDE 
fonts are really rough and difficult to read, particularly when they are  
small. I don't know that it is just just the lack of True Type fonts 
(although this is probably a contributing factor) as I have installed a whole 
bunch of Windows TTFs and it has made little difference.

I have tried using True Type fonts and have checked the 
Anti-Aliasing for Fonts box in the KDE Control Centre, but they are still 
quite fuzzy compared to those in Windows.

I am trying to get Red Hat 7.3 installed at my work to replace our network of 
aging Win95 PCs, but I just _know_ that as soon as the staff see the terrible 
fonts that they will reject it out of hand.

I am evaluating Galeon, OpenOffice 1.0 and Evolution as that is all most of 
our office will need, but the appearance compared to IE, MS Office and 
Outlook is terrible.

Can anyone offer any information/advice/website that will help me to get them 
a Windows-quality display?

Make absolutely sure that you do not have any scaled bitmap fonts 
in your fontpath.  By default, if you list a directory containing 
bitmap fonts in your font path, they will be made available both 
scaled and unscaled.  Scaled bitmap fonts look atrocious.

ie:

Bad:  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
Good: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled

Note that this only pertains to the core X fonts served by xfs or 
the X server itself.  Check your xfs config /etc/X11/fs/config 
and ensure that all bitmap font directories contain the :unscaled 
suffix.

A large majority of ugly font issues are due to this problem.  
Future versions of XFree86 will come with bitmap fonts defaulting 
to unscaled only, and require usage of the new :scaled attribute 
on font path elements to select the ugly scaled bitmap fonts 
(for compatibility with any broken apps requiring them).

Another possibility is that you just do not have decent fonts
installed.  Out of the box, there are not a lot of Truetype fonts
installed on the system.  This is due to there simply being a
distinct lack of freely available and redistributeable truetype
fonts.  As such, a default install, will give you the default few 
truetype and type1 fonts.  You will need to install Microsoft 
webfonts and/or other truetype fonts from Windows or other 
software which you have legal license of, or download other fonts 
off the web.  There are tonnes of free fonts out there.  We would 
include many of them if the licencing terms allowed us to do so, 
however they do not.

If the problem you're describing is determined to be due to
something else, we'll need a lot more information, screenshots,
etc. to be able to hazard a guess as to what is going wrong.

Linux/XFree86/KDE/GNOME is certainly becoming a very good 
desktop, however it does still require a bit of tweaking ala 
fonts et al. before it looks reasonably like our Windows 
counterpart.

If you're looking to avoid the Microsoft tax, and you're willing
to tweak a bit (for the time being), the benefits of using Linux
are well worth it IMHO.  Also, there is much work being done in 
the area of fonts within the XFree86 community, in particular 
Keith Packard's Xft2 and fontconfig.  I believe within 8-12 
months, most of the font related headaches that are frequently 
problems to XFree86 users, will have become a thing of the past.

Hope this helps.

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[Xpert]Connecting to more than 1 X server

2002-06-07 Thread Darío Mariani

Hello:
  I was wondering whether it is possible for an application to connect
to more than 1 X server without spawing new processes as I would like to
use threads instead of processes.
  Thanks,
Darío
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[Xpert]Support for DVMT (dynamic video memory technology)?

2002-06-07 Thread Henri Muurimaa

Hello,

First of all, let me thank you for all your hard work on the everybody's
favourite X-window system!

To my question: what are my chances to have support for DVMT, as
specified here: 
http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel830m/tti004.htm in any
near future?

You see, I've acquired a HP Omnibook 510 with the i830 graphics chipset
(which is supported by XFree 4.2.0, thank you!), but the stupid BIOS
will allocate only 1M of legacy video memory for the card. Thus I can
get at best only 1024x768x8bpp in X. Needless to say, the Windows driver
supports DVMT, and I can get full 32-bit resolutions in XP.

One way around this would be to select more video memory to be allocated
in the BIOS setup. Unfortunately the BIOS does not support that, and HP
seems to be unwilling to fix the problem, as Linux is not supported -
which is stupid since I received the laptop from a HP event with only
Linux pre-installed.

Intel acknowledges the potential problem in here:
http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel830m/tti013.htm but I've
yet to receive an answer from them on who could and/or would fix the
problem.

Would you guys have any insights on the problem? Does the problem lie in
a kernel module, or in XFree, ie. who's the party I should bug about
this?


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Re: [Xpert]Appearance in X...

2002-06-07 Thread Rolland Dudemaine

If so, wouldn't it be a good idea to make the default fonts true type ? 
Then, the fonts would look good by default. And basic people would not 
complain about this ugly font problem anymore...
Of course, this should go without deprecating other font types, but that 
goes without saying ...

Best regards,
Rolland Dudemaine

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Freetype's byte-code hinter may not be turned on on your system,
depending on what distribution you run.  Without it enabled, your font
rendering will look significantly worse than on Windows: with them, it
should be entirely comparable.

Also note that the XftConfig file as shipped by some vendors is badly broken,
so you may not get the behavior you'd like either due to that.
   - Jim

  

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Can anyone shed any light on why KDE looks so bad compared to Windows? The KDE
fonts are really rough and difficult to read, particularly when they are 
small. I don't know that it is just just the lack of True Type fonts
(although this is probably a contributing factor) as I have installed a whole
bunch of Windows TTFs and it has made little difference.

I have tried using True Type fonts and have checked the
Anti-Aliasing for Fonts box in the KDE Control Centre, but they are still
quite fuzzy compared to those in Windows.

I am trying to get Red Hat 7.3 installed at my work to replace our network of
aging Win95 PCs, but I just _know_ that as soon as the staff see the terrible
fonts that they will reject it out of hand.

I am evaluating Galeon, OpenOffice 1.0 and Evolution as that is all most of
our office will need, but the appearance compared to IE, MS Office and
Outlook is terrible.

Can anyone offer any information/advice/website that will help me to get them
a Windows-quality display?

Regards,
Brad
Brisbane, Australia
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[Xpert]XFree86, Solaris x86

2002-06-07 Thread Guenter Feldmann


Dear Sirs

 I'm using XFree86 on a couple of Solaris x86 boxes in our local
workstation pool. In the past week I've tried to upgrade to release
4.2.0 but failed. The new X server workes well, but libX11.so seems to
have a bug. When I try to start an xterm without parameters it crashes
with segmentaion violation. When I start it with a parameter (which doesn't
matter) it comes up but crashes as soon as I try to select an etry in its
root menues.

 Mu configuration:
Solaris8 x86, gcc3.1, Xfree86 4.2.0

 In the net I couldn't find any help.

 Do you know of anybody who works on this topic or has solved the
problem already? 

 Any help appreciated.

-- Guenter


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[Xpert]MAXCLIENTS

2002-06-07 Thread Hermann Tse

Alan,

I download the lastest version and install it on a
Redhat 7.2 and I got the following error message after
111 xterm windows open

xterm:error while loading shared libraries:
libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: Error 23
Warning:local not supported by C libaray, local
unchanged
Warning:local not supported by Xlib, local set to C
Warning: X local modifiers not suppoted, using default
xterm: Error 14, errno 23:  Too many open files in
system

I also cannot find any information mention about
MAXCLIENTS change to 256 in v4.2 from the release
note or bug fixes, do you have a link on those
information?

Thanks.

Hermann

On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 10:55:46 -0700, Hermann Tse
wrote:
 Hi,
 I got Maximum number of clients reached  
 /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm Xt error: ,  I know that
XServer
 set the default to 128, anyone know how to set it
 high?  What is the reason to set the default to 128
 instead of a higher number like 512?  Do I need to
 recompile the source files?  Where I can find a step
 by step instruction?

You must be using an older Xserver, as 4.2.0 certainly
sets this to 256.

Alan.


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re: [Xpert]TinyX Server

2002-06-07 Thread Roy He

you'd better add #define XfbdevServer YES to the host.def


Hi:
I get the Xfree86 4.2.0 tarball and prepare to compile one TinyX server.
I copy the two lines of Micro defines into host.def. After that I run 
command
make World . But it doesn't proudce the Xfbdev as Xfree86 4.1.0 tarball 
does.
who can tell me what happened to the 4.2.0.
I have tested  it on the Redhat 7.2 and 7.3 (PIII).
Thanks lots.

 Sun  Zongjun

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[Xpert]xinerama in xf86 = 4.1

2002-06-07 Thread dave crane

I'm really at the end of my rope here.  Since 4.1 came out i have had to 
revert on every release back to 4.0.3.  I think I finally have come to a 
conclusion its not 'cuz I'm a _complete_ dumbass.

overall setup:
tyan thunder K7 2x1.2mp 768ram
agp: matrox g450
pci cards tried:
tnt2 m64, tnt2 vanta (are they the same?)
3dfx voodoo 3,4
ati radeon 7500

on the exact same hardware/distro, i can get the TNT's to work correctly 
with 4.0.3.

in 4.1 and 4.2 it appears the keyboard is frozen (i can still ssh in and 
reboot, but the displays stayed screwed. either pretty fades from 
red-blue-black on the screen or plain black).  the common deniminator 
from a visual perspective is that under  4.0.3 the bios looking readout 
is not displayed for the tnt2's (secondary screen) on startup of X. 
this led me to beleive that 4.0.3 was somehow initializing it 
differently than  4.0.3.

the log files only have 1 difference:

(EE) NV(1): Cannot read V_BIOS.
(EE) ATI(1): Cannot read V_BIOS.
(EE) TDFX(1): Cannot read V_BIOS.

everything except X is the same, and xinerama doesnt want to work.

if anyone wants config files (ive tried dozens, literally) or some other 
procedure please, please please, let me know.

the majority of errors ive found related to this are on ppc's, and i 
have found none on intel where it was not a configuration (user) error, 
so my asbestos suit is on.

TIA,
dave
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[Xpert]Re: VirtualBindings

2002-06-07 Thread Richard S. Hall

This is a follow-up from almost a year ago.

When I recently switched to JDK1.4 and Redhat 7.3, I started to receive 
warnings when I started Java Swing applications in the form of:

Warning: Cannot convert string KeyEscape,_Key_Cancel to type 
VirtualBinding

I found an old post on the xpert list that reported to solve the 
problem, but it didn't. After mailing the original solution provider 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), he pointed out that the solution has changed 
slightly. I am reposting his new solution here (slightly edited) in hope 
that it will help other people.

- richard



Note that I am using FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE, so I can not comment on differences with the 
Red Hat Linux distribution.

I'm going to assume that you are using XFree86 version 4.2.0 or greater. The reason 
that I am making this assumption is that I found, after upgrading XFree86 from version 
4.0.2 to 4.2.0, my fix did not work as before. I found that the XFree86 maintainers 
had omitted a necessary section from the lib/X11/config/Motif.tmpl file in config 
directory of the XFree86 installation (typically located in /usr/X11R6):

#ifndef VirtualBindingsPath
/*  Modified for XFree86 (Castalia 2/02)
# define VirtualBindingsPath /usr/lib/Xm/bindings
*/
# define VirtualBindingsPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/bindings
#endif

[The above modified version of the configuration information is] obviously important 
for finding the virtual bindings definitions. In the lib/X11/bindings directory of the 
XFree86 installation, modify the xmbind.alias file as before by adding this line (I 
put it right at the top of the alias list):

The XFree86 Project, Inc  XFree86

The portion in double quotes is the string that the X server uses to identify the 
vendor of the software. I find this in the server startup log file 
(/var/log/XFree86.0.log on my system [):

(II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project

The key is exactly what follows vendor=; since you are using XFree86 I assume this 
will be the same as it is for me. In the xmbind.alias file, the identifier after the 
vendor string (i.e., XFree86) is the name of a file in the same directory containing 
the virtual bindings definitions. You should be able to name this file whatever seems 
appropriate to you; XFree86 seems obvious to me (I don't understand why it isn't 
obvious to the folks distributing XFree86 ;-).

I chose to copy the sun_at file in the same directory to be my XFree86; but I don't 
remember why other than it worked. I'm using a straightforward keyboard (Key Tronic LT 
Designer) so your needs may vary depending on the keyboard specifics. I do remember 
digging a bit into the osfXXX definitions in the virtual bindings definitions files 
and it seems that osfCancel is the virtual name that is bound to the KeyEscape 
(where Escape is the name for a specific key code) emitted from your keyboard. Of 
course, if the sun_at bindings don't work for you, trying some other file (or rolling 
your own) probably will.

The key (excuse the pun :^) seems to be telling the XFree86 X server where to find the 
virtual bindings (which file in which directory), and then configuring the bindings 
appropriate to your keyboard.

In all fairness to the XFree86 folks, I suspect that the reason they do not 
pre-configure this stuff is that it is virtually (oops!) never needed. Only the Java 
installation on my system has ever complained.

Brad Castalia

P.S. Would you please report this, along with your final solution, as an update to the 
VirtualBindings thread of the Xpert list on the XFree86 site so others will know the 
solution, too.





[Xpert]Cross compile xkbcomp

2002-06-07 Thread Paul Krushka

Hi,

Just trying to cross compile the 4.2.0 tar balls that I have downloaded.

I have got the scripts to compile but the make bombs out in the make install. 
 The make files reference xkbcomp in the programs/xkbcomp/cross directory but 
the make scripts place the executable in programs/xkbcomp and also the 
exports/bin directory.  I've noticed that the source files in xkbcomp/cross 
are linked to ../ and I assume that there should be a link back to xkbcomp 
too but can't work out where I set this in the config files.

I have set the cross compile flags correctly.  Is this a bug or can I change 
it somewhere?

Thanks,  Paul.

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[Xpert]Appearance in X...

2002-06-07 Thread Brad

I have been using Win2K on the desktop for quite a while now, and I am now 
evaluation Red Hat 7.3 with a view to replacing Win2K. Things are progressing 
well, but the appearance of the fonts on X is not nearly as good as those in 
Windows. I have tried using True Type fonts and have checked the 
Anti-Aliasing for  Fonts box in the KDE Control Centre, but they are still 
quite fuzzy compared to those in Windows.

I am using many of the applications that came with 7.3 and it is the same in 
all of them. I have tried to customise the applications by specifying the 
fonts to use, but have not seen any improvement.

I have used several PCs with different video cards and monitors and it is the 
same with all of them. I have also checked with several colleagues who use 
Linux and they have agreed that the font appearance is not as good. Can 
anyone shed a light on this?

Regards,
Brad
Brisbane, Australia
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Re: [Xpert]Re: Re: Radeon VE QY (PCI)

2002-06-07 Thread Keith Gross

On Tuesday 04 June 2002 11:31 pm, Mike A. Harris wrote:
 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Keith Gross wrote:
 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:57:06 -0500

 From: Keith Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 Subject: Re: Re: Radeon VE QY (PCI)
 
 I do most of my work on the weekends so I'll try setting this up this
  wekend. What would be the easiest way to get the changes you made to
  enable the support so I could start from there.

 The patch is in the RHL 7.3 XFree86 src.rpm package, as well as
 buried somewhere under my testing dir in my sig.

I was just wondering if the following will work.  I retreived the patch 
(XFree86-4.2.0-ati-radeon-pci-drm-enable.patch) from your ftp server and 
applied it to my XFree 4.2.0 build tree and recompiled.  I was thinking than 
that I'd replace the following files with the new versions in the build tree 
as shown below :

Replaced /lib/modules/2.4.19-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.o
   with /xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel/radeon.o

Replaced /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/radeon_dri.so
   with /xc/exports/lib/modules/dri/radeon_dri.so

Replaced /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o
   with /xc/exports/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o

After looking at the patches and reading some background on DRI and XFree 
design this seemed viable.

I as also wondering how bad the reports where on the patch?  Did it 
periodically fail or it just plain wouldn't start?

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[Xpert]Render support in Xclock by default?

2002-06-07 Thread Keith Packard


I've hacked Render support into Xclock and checked that code into CVS (use
'xclock -render'); the question this evening is whether that should be the
default when the Render extension is supported.

Unless people have strong objections, I'll go ahead and commit a change to 
CVS that uses Render when available and otherwise leaves the current 
behaviour unchanged.

Polite comments on the fine choice of default colors in Render mode would 
also be appreciated; I realize my limitations in the area of aesthetics.

Keith PackardXFree86 Core TeamHP Cambridge Research Lab


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[Xpert]Event generations..

2002-06-07 Thread Viveka Nathan K


Hi,,

I have a doubt..

As per the Indian languages,
There are some consonants and vowels.
On combination of Consonant and Vowel, the glyph to be display is different.
It is not similar either to Consonant or Vowel, Its completely different.

Normally , in English, if the consonant 't' is followed by vowel 'a', we will
write it as 'ta', but in Indian languages, these two chars 'ta' will be written
in some different way.

For Indian language, I mapped (for eg.) 'D' to a vowel and 'K' to  a
consonant. If I type 'K' the corresponding consonant to that 'K' would be
displayed. If I type the consonant again, it just display the corresponding
consonants and going on and on.

but, If I type the vowel character 'D' next to the consonant 'K', the already
printed consonant, should be removed and the character corresponding to the
combination of the Consonant+Vowel should be displayed.

This is the thing needed for all the Koffice application( of course, KDE).  so,
I am modifying the Xlibrary.

Do you have any Idea? How to do that?

Things I have tried are :

  To delete the already displayed consonant, we have to generate backspace
event, so, in the XTranslateKeySym(), while the match for Consonant and vowel
comes, 
I just assign *sym_rtrn = 65288;  (for backspace) 
and assigned the resulting glyph in buffer such as
   buffer = resultingValue;

but it sends only backspace, not printing the content of the buffer..

If I assigned the values in buffer as
  buffer[0]='\b';
  strcat(buffer,resultingValue);

It displays a box for '\b' (in KDE Applns) and appended the resultingValue with
that. 

Now, I think, what happen If I generate a seperate event for backspace ?
for that, I have to give a KeyPress and KeyRelease Events, 

By using, XPeekEvent, I can get the KeyRelease event, but I couldnt get the
Keypress event.

I dont know, whether I am moving in a correct way... !!  
Give me your comments and Solutions..



  with Regards, Vivek
 
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