Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 driver. Open Source?

[Michel Dänzer]

On Son, 2002-12-29 at 10:19, Brian Lavender wrote:
> Is support for the ATI Radeon 8500 coming in Open Source?

Yes, 3D support will be in XFree86 4.3.0, if you can't wait for that see
http://dri.sf.net or http://xfree86.org/cvs/ .


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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 driver. Open Source?

[Brian Lavender]

Is support for the ATI Radeon 8500 coming in Open Source?

I just installed the RPM for the ATI Radeon 8500 LE using the rpm from
ATI on Redhat 8.0.

fglrx-glc22-4.2.0-2.5.1.i586.rpm

I also found install notes for another rpm package, it looks as if the 
support can be compiled from source, but I am just not sure.

http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/linux/linuxradeon8500x420143fileinfo.txt

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 LE 128 can't do > 1280x1024 in 15,16,24

[Frank Jacobberger]

As directed by Mike Harris from RH I'm submitting this to your attention.
Attached are the corresponding XF86Config and XFree86.0.log.

Opened by [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on 2002-12-12 
09:17:04 UTC

From Bugzilla Helper:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021003

Description of problem:
Can't do higher than 1280x1024 with this built buy ATI Radeon 8500 LE with
128meg DDR. See attached XFree86.0.log + XF86Config

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):


How reproducible:
Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Either from GUI Display change prog in RH 8,edit XF86Config
2.Change default depth etc - trying 1600x1200x24 or by 15 or 16
3./sbin/telinit 5 after /sbin/telinit 3 or log off and log on

	

Actual Results:  OUT OF RANGE

Expected Results:  ViewSonic A90 performs with 1600x1200 with Radeon 7500 64 meg
built by ATI... Should do 1600x1200




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XFree86 Version 4.2.99.2 (Custom Build: 4.2.99.2-0.20021210.0) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 10 December 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.19-0.pp.20 i686 [ELF] 
Build Host: f1j.dsl.xmission.com
 
Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.19-0.pp.20 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc 
version 3.2 20021115 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-14)) #1 Tue Nov 26 17:49:27 EST 2002 
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Thu Dec 12 07:18:12 2002
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
(==) ServerLayout "Anaconda Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "ATI Radeon 8500"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) XKB: model: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.99.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.99.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x80b0, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,2560 card 1043,80b2 rev 02 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,2561 card , rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,24c2 card 1043,8089 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,24c4 card 1043,8089 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,24c7 card 1043,8089 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1d:7: chip 8086,24cd card 1043,8089 rev 02 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,244e card , rev 82 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,24c0 card , rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,24cb card 1043,8089 rev 02 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,24c5 card 1043,80b0 rev 02 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,514c card 1002,003a rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:03:0: chip 1106,3044 card 1043,808a rev 80 class 0c,00,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:05:0: chip 14e4,16a6 card 1043,80a9 rev 02 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:09:0: chip 104c,8020 card 15c5,8010 rev 00 class 0c,00,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:0b:0: chip 1102,0002 card 1102,8064 rev 08 class 04,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 02:0b:1: chip 1102,7002 card 1102,0020 rev 08 class 09,80,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II

Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 + PowerPC = Yellowish tint

[Michel Dänzer]

On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 18:02, David Brown wrote: 
> 
> I've managed to get XFree86 4.2.0 built and running on powerpc. Using
> the ati driver, 'UseFBDev', and the radeonfb kernel driver, the best
> display I can get is 640x480 with most of the display tinted yellow.
> 
> Has this been reported yet? Is there anything I can do?

Yes, you need a recent benh kernel.


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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 + PowerPC = Yellowish tint

[David Brown]

On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 03:55:53PM +0100, Eric Deveaud wrote:
| On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, David Brown wrote:
| 
|   Hello David,
| > I've managed to get XFree86 4.2.0 built and running on powerpc. Using
| > the ati driver, 'UseFBDev', and the radeonfb kernel driver, the best
| > display I can get is 640x480 with most of the display tinted yellow.
| 
| you can use the radeon driver for X, the ati driver loads it
| 
| i'm not using a radeon 8500, but a 9000 that share a lot of
| caracteristics.
| 
| I was experiencing the same problem, there was a bug in the radeonfb
| kernel driver, and using 2.4.20-rc3-ben0 corrected the problem.
| you can use the last benh kernel tree that correct the problem.

Aha. I'll give that a try. I don't have the machine in front of me right
now, but I'm pretty sure the kernel was 2.4.20, pre-rc3.

Thanks a lot,
- Dave

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 + PowerPC = Yellowish tint

[David Brown]

Hi Everyone:

I've managed to get XFree86 4.2.0 built and running on powerpc. Using
the ati driver, 'UseFBDev', and the radeonfb kernel driver, the best
display I can get is 640x480 with most of the display tinted yellow.

Has this been reported yet? Is there anything I can do?

Thanks in advance,

- Dave

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 + PowerPC = Yellowish tint

[Eric Deveaud]

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, David Brown wrote:

Hello David,
> I've managed to get XFree86 4.2.0 built and running on powerpc. Using
> the ati driver, 'UseFBDev', and the radeonfb kernel driver, the best
> display I can get is 640x480 with most of the display tinted yellow.

you can use the radeon driver for X, the ati driver loads it

i'm not using a radeon 8500, but a 9000 that share a lot of
caracteristics.

I was experiencing the same problem, there was a bug in the radeonfb
kernel driver, and using 2.4.20-rc3-ben0 corrected the problem.
you can use the last benh kernel tree that correct the problem.

Eric
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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 + PowerPC = Yellowish tint

[David Brown]

Hi Everyone:

(Resent; the last message was inaccurately flagged as "non-subscriber")

I've managed to get XFree86 4.2.0 built and running on powerpc. Using
the ati driver, 'UseFBDev', and the radeonfb kernel driver, the best
display I can get is 640x480 with most of the display tinted yellow.

Has anyone managed to get anything better? Is the Radeon 8500 officially
supported on PowerPC?

Thanks in advance,

- Dave

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 Support

[Jesse Gross]

Hi,

I am thinking about getting a Radeon 8500LE 128MB and I was wondering
what the current status of the drivers are.

I saw that support for it is included in 4.2.0, although there is no
page specifically for its driver that I can find. I am mostly concerned
with 2D, since for 3D I will mostly likely reboot to Windows.

Can anybody tell me what resolution/colordepth it supports and is it
stable? Are there any other cavaets that I should know about?

If it matters, I am running FreeBSD-STABLE.

Thanks,

Jesse Gross

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 Support

[Jesse Gross]

Hi,

I am thinking about getting a Radeon 8500LE 128MB and I was wondering
what the current status of the drivers are.

I saw that support for it is included in 4.2.0, although there is no
page specifically for its driver that I can find. I am mostly concerned
with 2D, since for 3D I will mostly likely reboot to Windows.

Can anybody tell me what resolution/colordepth it supports and is it
stable? Are there any other cavaets that I should know about?

If it matters, I am running FreeBSD-STABLE.

Thanks,

Jesse Gross

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 DVI display problem

[Rene Puls]

On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:12, you wrote:
> Your config has
> #Option "Dac6Bit" "False"
> #Option "Dac8Bit" "True"
> Since the VGA connector is giving the correct output, I don't think
> you should need to uncomment these lines, but the DVI output is behaving
> as if you had:
>   Option "Dac8Bit" "False"
> or
>   Option "Dac6Bit" "True"

Exactly. I put these lines into the config file in an act of pure 
desperation. I am not sure if this has really got anything to do with the 
DAC being set to 6-bit mode (the XFree86.log file actually says 
otherwise), but it would certainly explain why there are exactly 64 (2^6) 
shades of gray.

bye,
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RE: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 DVI display problem

[info @ saudiabm]

Hi

I have ATI Mobility Radeon M7 and I have  a lots of vertical "bars" in
the screen like you , If you find any solution please tell me and If I
found anythink I will tell you

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Subject: Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 DVI display problem


On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Rene Puls wrote:

> I am using a SONY SDM-M81 LCD panel together with a Radeon 8500 DDR 
> card in
> 1280x1024 @ 24bpp mode. My XFree86 is version 4.2.0.
> 
> As you can see, the gradient shown in the first picture is absolutely
> smooth (save for a few JPEG artifacts, maybe), while my display shows
it 
> as if it had just 64 colors, producing lots of vertical "bars".
> 
> Mind you, the display is running in 24-bit color depth, so this 
> shouldn't
> really happen. What is kind of strange is the fact that this happens 
> *only* when my display is connected via the DVI connector of the
graphics 
> board. If I connect the VGA connector to the second input of my LCD
and 
> switch to it, the gradient becomes perfectly smooth. (No need to
restart X 
> or anything.) After switching back to DVI, the color bars appear
again. By 
> the way, this does not happen under Windows, so I guess it is not a 
> hardware limitation.

Your config has 
#Option "Dac6Bit" "False"
#Option "Dac8Bit" "True"
Since the VGA connector is giving the correct output, I don't think you
should need to uncomment these lines, but the DVI output is behaving as
if you had:
Option "Dac8Bit" "False"
or
Option "Dac6Bit" "True"

I guess that the DVI output isn't getting this right.
I don't have an 8500, or much time for this sort of thing, but *if* I
get around to it I'll see if it happens on a 7000 or I can see any bugs
in the code.
 
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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 DVI display problem

[Dr Andrew C Aitchison]

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Rene Puls wrote:

> I am using a SONY SDM-M81 LCD panel together with a Radeon 8500 DDR card in 
> 1280x1024 @ 24bpp mode. My XFree86 is version 4.2.0.
> 
> As you can see, the gradient shown in the first picture is absolutely 
> smooth (save for a few JPEG artifacts, maybe), while my display shows it 
> as if it had just 64 colors, producing lots of vertical "bars".
> 
> Mind you, the display is running in 24-bit color depth, so this shouldn't 
> really happen. What is kind of strange is the fact that this happens 
> *only* when my display is connected via the DVI connector of the graphics 
> board. If I connect the VGA connector to the second input of my LCD and 
> switch to it, the gradient becomes perfectly smooth. (No need to restart X 
> or anything.) After switching back to DVI, the color bars appear again. By 
> the way, this does not happen under Windows, so I guess it is not a 
> hardware limitation.

Your config has 
#Option "Dac6Bit" "False"
#Option "Dac8Bit" "True"
Since the VGA connector is giving the correct output, I don't think
you should need to uncomment these lines, but the DVI output is behaving
as if you had:
Option "Dac8Bit" "False"
or
Option "Dac6Bit" "True"

I guess that the DVI output isn't getting this right.
I don't have an 8500, or much time for this sort of thing, but *if*
I get around to it I'll see if it happens on a 7000 or I can see any
bugs in the code.
 
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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 DVI display problem

[Rene Puls]

[Please CC any replies to me, since I am not subscribed to the list.]

Hello,

I am using a SONY SDM-M81 LCD panel together with a Radeon 8500 DDR card in 
1280x1024 @ 24bpp mode. My XFree86 is version 4.2.0.

My problem is that when I display a color gradient like the following one:

http://www.lionking.org/~kianga/2/misc/gradient.jpg

on my display, it is displayed as on this photo taken with a digital 
camera:

http://www.lionking.org/~kianga/2/misc/screen-shot.jpg

As you can see, the gradient shown in the first picture is absolutely 
smooth (save for a few JPEG artifacts, maybe), while my display shows it 
as if it had just 64 colors, producing lots of vertical "bars".

Mind you, the display is running in 24-bit color depth, so this shouldn't 
really happen. What is kind of strange is the fact that this happens 
*only* when my display is connected via the DVI connector of the graphics 
board. If I connect the VGA connector to the second input of my LCD and 
switch to it, the gradient becomes perfectly smooth. (No need to restart X 
or anything.) After switching back to DVI, the color bars appear again. By 
the way, this does not happen under Windows, so I guess it is not a 
hardware limitation.

I have attached my XFree86.0.log as well as my current XF86Config. I posted 
a similar message describing this problem more than a month ago, but 
received no reply so far. I am kind of lost here, and would really 
appreciate a reply, even if it's just saying that I should ask somewhere 
else and pointing me there. :-)

Many thanks in advance,
Rene

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XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 January 2002
	If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
	newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
	reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.19-pre8 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Sun Jun 23 19:07:34 2002
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
(==) ServerLayout "Default"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "SONY SDM-M81"
(**) |   |-->Device "ATI Radeon 8500 64 MB DDR"
(**) |-->Input Device "Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro"
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XLeds" "1 2 3"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "logicordless"
(**) XKB: model: "logicordless"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "de"
(**) XKB: layout: "de"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "Logitech MouseMan Dual Optical"
(**) |-->Input Device "Logitech MouseMan Plus"
(**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/local/share/emacs/fonts/"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 13

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
	XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
	XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
	XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
	XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
	XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
	ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8090, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,3099 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,b099 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 10b7,9200 card 10b7,1000 rev 74 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 1102,0002 card 1102,0021 rev 04 class 04,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0a:1: chip 1102,7002 card 1102,0020 rev 01 class 09,80,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 109e,036e card 0070,13eb rev 11 class 04,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0b:1: chip 109e,0878 card 0070,13eb rev 11 class 04,80,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0c:0: chip 9004,7178 card , rev 03 class 01,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip 1106,3147 card 1106,3147 rev 00 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
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AW: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Johannes Rath]

Dualhead is supported . Xinerama is not supported.
Johannes

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One question regarding ATi's FireGL drivers with the
Radeon 8500 - is dualhead/Xinerama supported? (If not,
it's no big deal, I'll just do two separate configs,
one DRI and one Xinerama using different drivers...)



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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[James H. Cloos Jr.]

> "Fabrice" == Fabrice Bellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Fabrice> The config is a Tyan S2462 Thunder K7 Motherboard, dual
Fabrice> Athlon MP1900+, and a Radeon 8500 64M.
  
D'oh.  Looks like I managed to confuse the 7800 thread with an 8500 thread.

[SIGH]

That certainly explains the significantly higher frame rates.

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Fabrice Bellet]

On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 10:16:44AM -0700, Eric Sprague wrote:
> One question regarding ATi's FireGL drivers with the
> Radeon 8500 - is dualhead/Xinerama supported? (If not,
> it's no big deal, I'll just do two separate configs,
> one DRI and one Xinerama using different drivers...)

It almost works. You can configure the dual mode through a
GUI : clone mode, horizontal or vertical mode. The 3D acceleration
is available in dual mode, but in my case, I have 
wrong colors on the second monitor in every configurations
I have tested (even in single monitor if I select
monitor2 as the primary monitor).

This dual mode is activated through specific option of the Fire GL
DDX driver, so there's no relation with the Xinerama option of
the XFree86 server.

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Keith Whitwell]

James H. Cloos Jr. wrote:
>>"Fabrice" == Fabrice Bellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
> 
>>the FireGL driver does not enable bus mastering on the graphics card, but
>>this is essential. So you have to do before starting the Xserver with setpci
>>by setting bit 2 of the command register-
>>
> 
> Fabrice> Wow it works, and it's damn fast!
> 
> Fabrice> glxgears gives these results :
> 
> Fabrice> 11305 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2261.000 FPS
> Fabrice> 14153 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2830.600 FPS
> Fabrice> 14106 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2821.200 FPS
> Fabrice> 14142 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2828.400 FPS
> Fabrice> 13498 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2699.600 FPS
> Fabrice> 2121 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.200 FPS
> Fabrice> 2119 frames in 5.0 seconds = 423.800 FPS
> 
> Fabrice> The last two values are obtained in full screen 1024x768.
> 
> That is a significant improvement over the 7500 M7 LW which gives:
> 
> [default size]
> 4293 frames in 5.0 seconds = 858.600 FPS
> 4626 frames in 5.0 seconds = 925.200 FPS
> 4723 frames in 5.0 seconds = 944.600 FPS
> 4703 frames in 5.0 seconds = 940.600 FPS
> 4722 frames in 5.0 seconds = 944.400 FPS
> 3048 frames in 5.0 seconds = 609.600 FPS

The tcl driver on dri.sf.net gives me 2200 FPS on a 7500 if I turn on page 
flipping.  Did I meantion gears wasn't a good benchmark?

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Fabrice Bellet]

On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 03:12:29PM -0400, James H. Cloos Jr. wrote:
> I wonder how much is due to the 7800 (is that mobile or desktop?)
> being faster than the 7500m, and how much is due to the different
> driver?

The config is a Tyan S2462 Thunder K7 Motherboard, dual Athlon MP1900+, 
and a Radeon 8500 64M.

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Michel Dänzer]

On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 21:12, James H. Cloos Jr. wrote:
> > "Fabrice" == Fabrice Bellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > the FireGL driver does not enable bus mastering on the graphics card, but
> > this is essential. So you have to do before starting the Xserver with setpci
> > by setting bit 2 of the command register-
> 
> Fabrice> Wow it works, and it's damn fast!
> 
> Fabrice> glxgears gives these results :
> 
> Fabrice> 11305 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2261.000 FPS
> Fabrice> 14153 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2830.600 FPS
> Fabrice> 14106 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2821.200 FPS
> Fabrice> 14142 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2828.400 FPS
> Fabrice> 13498 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2699.600 FPS
> Fabrice> 2121 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.200 FPS
> Fabrice> 2119 frames in 5.0 seconds = 423.800 FPS
> 
> Fabrice> The last two values are obtained in full screen 1024x768.
> 
> That is a significant improvement over the 7500 M7 LW which gives:
> 
> [default size]
> 4293 frames in 5.0 seconds = 858.600 FPS
> 4626 frames in 5.0 seconds = 925.200 FPS
> 4723 frames in 5.0 seconds = 944.600 FPS
> 4703 frames in 5.0 seconds = 940.600 FPS
> 4722 frames in 5.0 seconds = 944.400 FPS
> 3048 frames in 5.0 seconds = 609.600 FPS
> 
> [1024x768]
> 640 frames in 5.0 seconds = 128.000 FPS
> 643 frames in 5.0 seconds = 128.600 FPS
> 652 frames in 5.0 seconds = 130.400 FPS
> 644 frames in 5.0 seconds = 128.800 FPS
> 
> [1600x1200]
> 302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.400 FPS
> 304 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.800 FPS
> 
> I wonder how much is due to the 7800 (is that mobile or desktop?)
> being faster than the 7500m, and how much is due to the different
> driver?

A lot is certainly due to the driver. The DRI CVS trunk has a new radeon
driver which utilizes the chips' TCL unit and can optionally use page
flipping, with that I get 1500 fps in 32 bit and more than 1800 fps in
16 bit  with a 7500 Mobility in a PowerBook.

Not that glxgears is a very important or meaningful benchmark...


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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[James H. Cloos Jr.]

> "Fabrice" == Fabrice Bellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> the FireGL driver does not enable bus mastering on the graphics card, but
> this is essential. So you have to do before starting the Xserver with setpci
> by setting bit 2 of the command register-

Fabrice> Wow it works, and it's damn fast!

Fabrice> glxgears gives these results :

Fabrice> 11305 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2261.000 FPS
Fabrice> 14153 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2830.600 FPS
Fabrice> 14106 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2821.200 FPS
Fabrice> 14142 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2828.400 FPS
Fabrice> 13498 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2699.600 FPS
Fabrice> 2121 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.200 FPS
Fabrice> 2119 frames in 5.0 seconds = 423.800 FPS

Fabrice> The last two values are obtained in full screen 1024x768.

That is a significant improvement over the 7500 M7 LW which gives:

[default size]
4293 frames in 5.0 seconds = 858.600 FPS
4626 frames in 5.0 seconds = 925.200 FPS
4723 frames in 5.0 seconds = 944.600 FPS
4703 frames in 5.0 seconds = 940.600 FPS
4722 frames in 5.0 seconds = 944.400 FPS
3048 frames in 5.0 seconds = 609.600 FPS

[1024x768]
640 frames in 5.0 seconds = 128.000 FPS
643 frames in 5.0 seconds = 128.600 FPS
652 frames in 5.0 seconds = 130.400 FPS
644 frames in 5.0 seconds = 128.800 FPS

[1600x1200]
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.400 FPS
304 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.800 FPS

I wonder how much is due to the 7800 (is that mobile or desktop?)
being faster than the 7500m, and how much is due to the different
driver?

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Eric Sprague]

One question regarding ATi's FireGL drivers with the
Radeon 8500 - is dualhead/Xinerama supported? (If not,
it's no big deal, I'll just do two separate configs,
one DRI and one Xinerama using different drivers...)




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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Fabrice Bellet]

On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 06:20:31PM +0200, Johannes Rath wrote:
> Fabrice,
> the FireGL driver does not enable bus mastering on the graphics card, but
> this is essential. So you have to do before starting the Xserver with setpci
> by setting bit 2 of the command register-
> 
> E.g.
> as root:
> 
> setpci -s 1:0.0 command
> 0183
> setpci -s 1:0.0 4.L=0187

Wow it works, and it's damn fast!

glxgears gives these results :

11305 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2261.000 FPS
14153 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2830.600 FPS
14106 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2821.200 FPS
14142 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2828.400 FPS
13498 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2699.600 FPS
2121 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.200 FPS
2119 frames in 5.0 seconds = 423.800 FPS

The last two values are obtained in full screen 1024x768.

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AW: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Johannes Rath]

Fabrice,
the FireGL driver does not enable bus mastering on the graphics card, but
this is essential. So you have to do before starting the Xserver with setpci
by setting bit 2 of the command register-

E.g.
as root:

setpci -s 1:0.0 command
0183
setpci -s 1:0.0 4.L=0187

Johannes

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On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 09:39:36AM -0600, Mark Lane wrote:
> At 07:02 AM 6/10/02, you wrote:
> 
> >I suppose every knows this, if so please
> >ignore.
> >
> >I have a dual Athlon 1600+MP.  I tried the
> >2.5.21 kernel enabled with the radeon module.
> >My machine goes completely dead when I start X.
> >
> >I have a Radeon 8500.
> 
> Check out ATI drivers for the FireGL 8800. Apparently they work though are

> somewhat buggy.

I tested it.

This driver does not work for me (Tyan Thunder dual Athlon MB/Radeon
8500). The Xserver is incredibly slow in both 2D/3D when DRM is
enabled. It looks like every framebuffer area copies fail in 
this mode. It sounds like an AGP problem. ATI includes a customized 
agpgart driver, which fails to init. The regular agpgart module is then 
loaded, but its use counter remains at zero. Booting with mem=nopentium 
doesn't help.

So I'll personnaly wait for the open source DRI driver for this board :-)

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 questions

[Ryan Lovett]

I'm having a couple of problems with a Radeon 8500.

Dual head:
With 4.2.0 and CVS, Screen 0 is always set to the DVI and Screen 1 is always
set to the CRT no matter what I try in the XF86Config-4 file. This causes my
15" to try to display 1600x1200 and my 19" to display 800x600 unless I bow to
the restriction in the config file. Is there any way to force Screen 0 to the
CRT?  I've tried the CRTScreen option, fwiw.

Xv:
I'm unable to get Xv applications to work properly with my Radeon 8500. I've
tried XFree86 4.2.0 and CVS with the both the radeon and ati drivers, and with
4.1.0 with the firegl drivers. xvinfo reports that 4.2.0 and CVS have Xv
support, but applications have trouble with it. xine and mplayer display a
black box with a blue band down the left side. I thought this might be related
to dual-head issues, but the same thing happens with a one monitor (CRT or DVI)
configuration. How can I get Xv to work?

My experiences are similar to this person's:
  http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2002-June/018062.html
except he was able to get Xv to work on his primary (DVI) display.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time,
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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Mark Lane]

At 10:44 AM 6/11/02, you wrote:
>On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 09:39:36AM -0600, Mark Lane wrote:
> > At 07:02 AM 6/10/02, you wrote:
> >
> > >I suppose every knows this, if so please
> > >ignore.
> > >
> > >I have a dual Athlon 1600+MP.  I tried the
> > >2.5.21 kernel enabled with the radeon module.
> > >My machine goes completely dead when I start X.
> > >
> > >I have a Radeon 8500.
> >
> > Check out ATI drivers for the FireGL 8800. Apparently they work though are
> > somewhat buggy.
>
>I tested it.
>
>This driver does not work for me (Tyan Thunder dual Athlon MB/Radeon
>8500). The Xserver is incredibly slow in both 2D/3D when DRM is
>enabled. It looks like every framebuffer area copies fail in
>this mode. It sounds like an AGP problem. ATI includes a customized
>agpgart driver, which fails to init. The regular agpgart module is then
>loaded, but its use counter remains at zero. Booting with mem=nopentium
>doesn't help.
>
>So I'll personnaly wait for the open source DRI driver for this board :-)

Hmm,

I bet ATI would be interested to know that their driver doesn't work with 
AMD's Chipset. They would probably want to fix it. Most likely their AGP 
driver needs to have Irongate support added like the linux did.

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Fabrice Bellet]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 09:39:36AM -0600, Mark Lane wrote:
> At 07:02 AM 6/10/02, you wrote:
> 
> >I suppose every knows this, if so please
> >ignore.
> >
> >I have a dual Athlon 1600+MP.  I tried the
> >2.5.21 kernel enabled with the radeon module.
> >My machine goes completely dead when I start X.
> >
> >I have a Radeon 8500.
> 
> Check out ATI drivers for the FireGL 8800. Apparently they work though are 
> somewhat buggy.

I tested it.

This driver does not work for me (Tyan Thunder dual Athlon MB/Radeon
8500). The Xserver is incredibly slow in both 2D/3D when DRM is
enabled. It looks like every framebuffer area copies fail in 
this mode. It sounds like an AGP problem. ATI includes a customized 
agpgart driver, which fails to init. The regular agpgart module is then 
loaded, but its use counter remains at zero. Booting with mem=nopentium 
doesn't help.

So I'll personnaly wait for the open source DRI driver for this board :-)

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Mark Lane]

At 07:02 AM 6/10/02, you wrote:

>I suppose every knows this, if so please
>ignore.
>
>I have a dual Athlon 1600+MP.  I tried the
>2.5.21 kernel enabled with the radeon module.
>My machine goes completely dead when I start X.
>
>I have a Radeon 8500.

Check out ATI drivers for the FireGL 8800. Apparently they work though are 
somewhat buggy.

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

[Fred Heitkamp]

I suppose every knows this, if so please
ignore.

I have a dual Athlon 1600+MP.  I tried the
2.5.21 kernel enabled with the radeon module.
My machine goes completely dead when I start X.

I have a Radeon 8500.

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RE: [Xpert]Radeon 8500

[Michel Dänzer]

On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 11:48, Pranay Kumar wrote:
> 
> Floating point exception in xvidtune:
> 
> Output:
> 
> Vendor: DEL, Model: DEL 1701FP
> Num hsync: 0, Num vsync: 0
> Floating point exception

Most likely an xvidtune bug then. You could try to track it down with
gdb.


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RE: [Xpert]Radeon 8500

[Pranay Kumar]

Hi,

Floating point exception in xvidtune:

Output:

Vendor: DEL, Model: DEL 1701FP
Num hsync: 0, Num vsync: 0
Floating point exception

I have also attached my XF86Config and Xfree log.

Regards,
Pranay

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>
>
>On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 08:45, Pranay Kumar wrote:
>> 
>> 1) When I run xvidtune I get a floating point exception. Why?
>
>Does xvidtune or the X server get the exception?
>
>> 2) How do I check the refresh rate and the clock rate?
>
>Look at the server log?
>
>> 3) How can I run the two heads as sperate screens. I tried 
>duplicating
>> the screen section in XF86Config-4 but no use.
>
>See http://xfree86.org/current/XF86Config.5.html (or man XF86Config or
>XF86Config-4) about the Screen directive in device sections.
>
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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500

[Michel Dänzer]

On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 08:45, Pranay Kumar wrote:
> 
> 1) When I run xvidtune I get a floating point exception. Why?

Does xvidtune or the X server get the exception?

> 2) How do I check the refresh rate and the clock rate?

Look at the server log?

> 3) How can I run the two heads as sperate screens. I tried duplicating
> the screen section in XF86Config-4 but no use.

See http://xfree86.org/current/XF86Config.5.html (or man XF86Config or
XF86Config-4) about the Screen directive in device sections.


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[Xpert]Radeon 8500

[Pranay Kumar]

Hi all,

My setup.. Linux 2.4.18 (built) with X 4.2.0 (built). ATI.2 drivers on a
Radeon 8500 card. The card has a vga and a DVI output. Both the heads by
default are in a clone configuration (right from boot time I see the
same things on both heads). I have a few questions:

1) When I run xvidtune I get a floating point exception. Why?
2) How do I check the refresh rate and the clock rate?
3) How can I run the two heads as sperate screens. I tried duplicating
the screen section in XF86Config-4 but no use.

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 Dualhead

[Laitinen Ismo]

Does current cvs tree (or any tree(DRI, Gatos)) support dualhead for
Radeon 8500?

With Xinerama or 2 X servers?

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 3D support

[Frank Van Damme]

On Friday 22 March 2002 02:12 pm, Anders Saaby wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Have anybody any idea about when we could expect OpenGL support for the
> ATI Radeon 8500 card in Xfree? Are anybody working on it?
>
> - Im sorry im not a developer, så i can not contribute...
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Anders Saaby

I hope soon. I ordered a such card and I hope to be gaming under linux soon.

Go for it XFree devellopers ;)

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 3D support

[Anders Saaby]

Hi!

Have anybody any idea about when we could expect OpenGL support for the
ATI Radeon 8500 card in Xfree? Are anybody working on it?

- Im sorry im not a developer, så i can not contribute...

Thanks in advance!

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 S-Video Support

[Shane Walton]

Does the X 4.2.0 support the S-Video output on the 
Radeon 8500?  If it does, can someone point out how to
configure X to enable this support.  

If X doesn't support this, is there another
alternative
that does?  Any thougths, ideas appreciated.  Thanks.



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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 3D support

[Joe Krahn]

Thomas Bruckschlegel wrote:
> 
> > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:25:16 +0100
> > From: "Anders Saaby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 3D support
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Have anybody any idea about when we could expect OpenGL support for the
> > ATI Radeon 8500 card in Xfree? Are anybody working on it?
> >
> > Secondly: if 3d support is too far avay in the future, then does anybody
> > know if xigraphics Summit driver is a useable alternative?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Anders Saaby
> I did some benchmarks on
> http://www.tommti-systems.de/main-Dateien/news010202_150202.html
> They support OpenGL 1.2 and I had some crashes during my tests. $129 isn't
> also that cheat
> 
I couldn't find the benchmarks there. It must be somehwere in arkiv.
Was this with their newest update, which fixed several bugs?
I tested their driver with a Radeon SDR and an MGA-550. I found
some bugs (especially with stereo) which are fixed in the newest version.

My impression was that it has many fewer bugs than XFree86, but
also has fewer features available, but I didn't do thorough testing,
judst tried a few programs that I am interested in using.

Xig will give you updates, but if you buy a different video card,
you'll have to buy another server.

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 3D support

[Thomas Bruckschlegel]

> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:25:16 +0100
> From: "Anders Saaby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 3D support
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Have anybody any idea about when we could expect OpenGL support for the
> ATI Radeon 8500 card in Xfree? Are anybody working on it?
> 
> Secondly: if 3d support is too far avay in the future, then does anybody
> know if xigraphics Summit driver is a useable alternative?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Anders Saaby
I did some benchmarks on 
http://www.tommti-systems.de/main-Dateien/news010202_150202.html
They support OpenGL 1.2 and I had some crashes during my tests. $129 isn't 
also that cheat

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 3D support

[Anders Saaby]

Hi!

Have anybody any idea about when we could expect OpenGL support for the
ATI Radeon 8500 card in Xfree? Are anybody working on it?

Secondly: if 3d support is too far avay in the future, then does anybody
know if xigraphics Summit driver is a useable alternative?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 3D support

[José Fonseca]

On 2002.02.18 10:25 Anders Saaby wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Have anybody any idea about when we could expect OpenGL support for the
> ATI Radeon 8500 card in Xfree? Are anybody working on it?
> 
> Secondly: if 3d support is too far avay in the future, then does anybody
> know if xigraphics Summit driver is a useable alternative?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Anders Saaby

You may find answer for your first question in 
http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/~jfonseca/dri/faq/html/hardware.html#RADEON-8500 
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[Anders Saaby]

Hi!

Have anybody any idea about when we could expect OpenGL support for the
ATI Radeon 8500 card in Xfree? Are anybody working on it?

Secondly: if 3d support is too far avay in the future, then does anybody
know if xigraphics Summit driver is a useable alternative?

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 DRI Drivers.

[Michel Dänzer]

On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 13:21, Mike Mestnik wrote:
> 
> --- Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I don't really know what Vladimir meant by CCE, CP and indirect
> > > packets, but glxinfo reports Direct Rendering=Yes.
> > 
> > But have you actually tried running a client, e.g. glxgears? You should
> > be prepared for a hard reboot when doing so. ;)
> > 
> Yes.
> Magic Sys key req still worked, but the video card could not be recovered :(
> was able to sync, kill, unmount (or remount ro), and reboot.
> 
> > DRI on the 8500 has been explicitly disabled in CVS because it's not
> > supposed to work.
> > 
> How do I re-enable it so that I can try to work ought what is wrong.
> I think that I allready have since I was able to kill my console :)

Bingo, that is your CVS checkout is probably from before it was
disabled.

About getting it working, I'm afraid it's not just a simple thing to
fix. The 8500 has a different 3D pipeline than the older Radeons,
without documentation about it and some 3D driver experience you're
gonna have a hard time. That's not to say you shouldn't try, but you've
been warned. :)


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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 DRI Drivers.

[Vladimir Dergachev]

Mike - I have not forgotten about you, I just did not have a chance to
look at the logs you sent me thoroughly enough. I have not heard from ATI
about spreading the docs around either - they seem really busy.. On the
positive side they found TDA9886TS datasheet for me so TV-in support for
8500DV has moved forward a notch further. I have not idea why it is so
hard to get this datasheet from Philips (I even tried to call local
representative who proclaimed the chip discontinued..).

  Vladimir Dergachev

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Mike Mestnik wrote:

> This msg dose not in any way have the understanding to get quake3 running on
> your pc.
> 
> A while back I got some instructions from Vladimir on how I could help with
> Radeon 8500 DRI code.  At first my PC would just reboot, but after changing
> some BIOS Settings that has changed.  I had my AGP Aperture size set to 512 MB,
> I have 756 Megs of ram so I thought that was in the ball park.  Now that I have
> changed that setting to 128 MB.  I don't really know what Vladimir meant by
> CCE, CP and indirect packets, but glxinfo reports Direct Rendering=Yes.
> 
> If any one wants logs, I turned on ring debug and so fourth, drop me a line.
> 
> --- Vladimir Dergachev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, I have not got a reply from my ATI contact yet, but in the meanwhile
> > there is stuff you can without actual docs.
> > 
> >   * get latest XFree86 CVS (4.1.99.5+)
> >   * get ati.2 from GATOS CVS (no tags/branches)
> >   * get drm-kernel from GATOS CVS (no tags/branches)
> >   * compile/install all the above, preserve source trees.
> >   * make a separate copy of ati.2 and drm-kernel trees for making
> > modifications and patches
> >   * compile and install copies
> >   * First thing to try: while 3d is quite different for 8500, the 2d
> > stuff remains the same. So try getting drm-kernel to recognize
> > your card and report it as functioning. Do _NOT_ run any 3d apps !
> > But do try to run 2d stuff (like  twm and xterm). Take a look at the
> > log. Check whether it says that it uses CCE for 2d acceleration. 
> > If nothing locked up and it does use CCE for 2d acceleration it 
> > means that CP and indirect packets function right - this is actually
> > a very big step.
> >   * Next try disabling 3d acceleration function in drm so as to cause 
> > dri to use software fallbacks. Make sure that glxgears works and
> > quake starts (just the logo) - it will do it slowly. This would imply
> > that 2d uses CP and indirect packets and 3d uses software rendering.
> >   * After that I would hopefully be able to give your some sample 3d code
> > for 8500 (that's what ATI gives instead of docs..).
> >   * Even if ATI decided not let me give you the docs (and I do not see it
> > as very likely) I can release source I produce from the docs. So,
> > I would be able to make up some headers for you.. And make them
> > well documented.
> > 
> >  Vladimir Dergachev
> >  
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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 DRI Drivers.

[Mike Mestnik]

--- Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 03:04, Mike Mestnik wrote:
> > This msg dose not in any way have the understanding to get quake3 running
> on
> > your pc.
> > 
> > A while back I got some instructions from Vladimir on how I could help with
> > Radeon 8500 DRI code.  At first my PC would just reboot, but after changing
> > some BIOS Settings that has changed.  I had my AGP Aperture size set to 512
> MB,
> > I have 756 Megs of ram so I thought that was in the ball park.  Now that I
> have
> > changed that setting to 128 MB.  I don't really know what Vladimir meant by
> > CCE, CP and indirect packets, but glxinfo reports Direct Rendering=Yes.
> 
> But have you actually tried running a client, e.g. glxgears? You should
> be prepared for a hard reboot when doing so. ;)
> 
Yes.
Magic Sys key req still worked, but the video card could not be recovered :(
was able to sync, kill, unmount (or remount ro), and reboot.

> DRI on the 8500 has been explicitly disabled in CVS because it's not
> supposed to work.
> 
How do I re-enable it so that I can try to work ought what is wrong.
I think that I allready have since I was able to kill my console :)

I had ring debug on and it told me this.

Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: [drm] BEGIN_RING( 6 ) in radeon_do_cp_idle
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: [drm]OUT_RING( 0x0d0b ) at 0x31a5
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: [drm]OUT_RING( 0x000f ) at 0x31a6
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: [drm]OUT_RING( 0x0c95 ) at 0x31a7
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: [drm]OUT_RING( 0x0005 ) at 0x31a8
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: [drm]OUT_RING( 0x05c8 ) at 0x31a9
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: [drm]OUT_RING( 0x0007 ) at 0x31aa
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: [drm] ADVANCE_RING() wr=0x0031ab tail=0x0031a5
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: [drm:radeon_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* failed!
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: radeon_status:
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: RBBM_STATUS = 0x8031c100
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: CP_RB_RTPR = 0x26c1
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: CP_RB_WTPR = 0x31ab
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: AIC_CNTL = 0x
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: AIC_STAT = 0x0004
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: AIC_PT_BASE = 0x
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: TLB_ADDR = 0x
Jan 17 19:25:22 overrun kernel: TLB_DATA = 0x

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 DRI Drivers.

[Michel Dänzer]

On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 03:04, Mike Mestnik wrote:
> This msg dose not in any way have the understanding to get quake3 running on
> your pc.
> 
> A while back I got some instructions from Vladimir on how I could help with
> Radeon 8500 DRI code.  At first my PC would just reboot, but after changing
> some BIOS Settings that has changed.  I had my AGP Aperture size set to 512 MB,
> I have 756 Megs of ram so I thought that was in the ball park.  Now that I have
> changed that setting to 128 MB.  I don't really know what Vladimir meant by
> CCE, CP and indirect packets, but glxinfo reports Direct Rendering=Yes.

But have you actually tried running a client, e.g. glxgears? You should
be prepared for a hard reboot when doing so. ;)

DRI on the 8500 has been explicitly disabled in CVS because it's not
supposed to work.


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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 DRI Drivers.

[Mike Mestnik]

This msg dose not in any way have the understanding to get quake3 running on
your pc.

A while back I got some instructions from Vladimir on how I could help with
Radeon 8500 DRI code.  At first my PC would just reboot, but after changing
some BIOS Settings that has changed.  I had my AGP Aperture size set to 512 MB,
I have 756 Megs of ram so I thought that was in the ball park.  Now that I have
changed that setting to 128 MB.  I don't really know what Vladimir meant by
CCE, CP and indirect packets, but glxinfo reports Direct Rendering=Yes.

If any one wants logs, I turned on ring debug and so fourth, drop me a line.

--- Vladimir Dergachev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have not got a reply from my ATI contact yet, but in the meanwhile
> there is stuff you can without actual docs.
> 
>   * get latest XFree86 CVS (4.1.99.5+)
>   * get ati.2 from GATOS CVS (no tags/branches)
>   * get drm-kernel from GATOS CVS (no tags/branches)
>   * compile/install all the above, preserve source trees.
>   * make a separate copy of ati.2 and drm-kernel trees for making
> modifications and patches
>   * compile and install copies
>   * First thing to try: while 3d is quite different for 8500, the 2d
> stuff remains the same. So try getting drm-kernel to recognize
> your card and report it as functioning. Do _NOT_ run any 3d apps !
> But do try to run 2d stuff (like  twm and xterm). Take a look at the
> log. Check whether it says that it uses CCE for 2d acceleration. 
> If nothing locked up and it does use CCE for 2d acceleration it 
> means that CP and indirect packets function right - this is actually
> a very big step.
>   * Next try disabling 3d acceleration function in drm so as to cause 
> dri to use software fallbacks. Make sure that glxgears works and
> quake starts (just the logo) - it will do it slowly. This would imply
> that 2d uses CP and indirect packets and 3d uses software rendering.
>   * After that I would hopefully be able to give your some sample 3d code
> for 8500 (that's what ATI gives instead of docs..).
>   * Even if ATI decided not let me give you the docs (and I do not see it
> as very likely) I can release source I produce from the docs. So,
> I would be able to make up some headers for you.. And make them
> well documented.
> 
>  Vladimir Dergachev
>  

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500

[Michel Dänzer]

On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 19:31, Alain Haegi wrote:

> I'll buy me an ATI Radeon 8500 with DVI and DSUB port (multi display support).
> Now my question is what is the current status of the driver?

AFAIK 2D is more or less complete, but no 3D yet.

> are both ports accesible?

AFAIK yes.

> will xinerama work?

If multihead is supported, yes. :)

> is xv werking with this card?

Basically yes, but problems have been reported with that. Hopefully,
they will be resolved for 4.2.


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Re: [Xpert]radeon 8500

[Vladimir Dergachev]

On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, F. Heitkamp wrote:

> Soon I will be rebuilding my PC using the subject card.  Is this card 
> yet supported
> by XFree86?

AFAIK yes - except for accelerated 3d. If you want enhanced Xv please try
GATOS drivers: http://gatos.sf.net/. 

   Vladimir Dergachev

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[F. Heitkamp]

Soon I will be rebuilding my PC using the subject card.  Is this card 
yet supported
by XFree86?

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500

[Alain Haegi]

lo

I'll buy me an ATI Radeon 8500 with DVI and DSUB port (multi display support).
Now my question is what is the current status of the driver? are both ports
accesible? will xinerama work? is xv werking with this card?

As far as i read through the archive of this list the support seems to be 
pre-Beta ?

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500

[Dan Chen]

On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 12:37:09AM -0500, John Goodyear wrote:
> What's the easiest way to get X up using my Radeon 8500?   I'm not 
> necessarily looking to get all of the DRI features running right away. 
> That can come later.  Right now,
> I just want to get X up.

2D support is working in cvs trunk. Directions to build and install are
at http://www.xfree86.org/cvs/ . I believe Mike Harris also has _highly_
experimental packages against 4.1.99.3 in his people~ directory. He's
usually around in #xfree86 on irc.openprojects.net, so ask away.

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500

[John Goodyear]

Hi,
I've recently bought a Radeon 8500 and upgraded my linux installation to 
Redhat 7.2 hearing that XFree86 4.1 supported the Radeons.

When the X-Server starts, it says that it doesn't recognize my card. 
 During the process, it spit out several other Radeon strings that it 
supported, but the 8500 wasn't one of them.

The ATI page pointed to the DRI site as a source of Radeon support, so ...

What's the easiest way to get X up using my Radeon 8500?   I'm not 
necessarily looking to get all of the DRI features running right away. 
 That can come later.  Right now,
I just want to get X up.

Thanks

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 and DRI+GLX ?

[Mark Lane]

At 11:46 AM 12/20/01, Thomas Bruckschlegel wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I've compiled the lates CVS, my radeon 8500 works well, the DRI + GLX are
>loaded+enabled and the XFfree86.log shows no errors!), but when I try any
>OpenGL app, my system crashes.
>
>Is the DRI + GLX support broken for the Radeon 8500 ?

I had the same problem last week. It use to be that GLX support was 
disabled now it just doesn't work.

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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 and DRI+GLX ?

[Thomas Bruckschlegel]

Hi!

I've compiled the lates CVS, my radeon 8500 works well, the DRI + GLX are 
loaded+enabled and the XFfree86.log shows no errors!), but when I try any 
OpenGL app, my system crashes.

Is the DRI + GLX support broken for the Radeon 8500 ?

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 support - thanks.

[Michel Dänzer]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 18:45, Noah Romer wrote:

> However, when I try to play an mpeg or avi, all I is get is a black box
> (offset slightly to the right of the window frame) where there would
> normally be the video. I've tried this both w/ and w/o DRI support in
> the SDL library and get the same results. Is this something
> to do w/ the radeon driver, or should I be talking to the SDL developers?

Probably the radeon driver, sounds like its Xv support for the 8500
isn't fully working yet.


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[Xpert]Radeon 8500 support - thanks.

[Noah Romer]

I just did a build from cvs and X now runs on my system w/ a Radeon 8500.
I just wanted to thank those who're working on it. I do have a question
about support for things like playing video (i.e. mpeg and/or avi files).
I noticed that there's not yet any DRI support for the 8500's (that I can
see), so I recompiled SDL to not use DRI and then recompiled my smpeg and
avifile libraries. However, when I try to play an mpeg or avi, all I is
get is a black box (offset slightly to the right of the window frame)
where there would normally be the video. I've tried this both w/ and w/o
DRI support in the SDL library and get the same results. Is this something
to do w/ the radeon driver, or should I be talking to the SDL developers?

Thanks.

FYI, the system is an Athlon system w/ Red Hat 7.2 install (no changes to
any of the video libraries other than those described above).

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RE: [Xpert]Radeon 8500/7500 support

[Michael Smith]

Title: RE: [Xpert]Radeon 8500/7500 support





A patch was submitted today to XFree86 for the Radeon 8500, 7500 and Mobility Radeon 7500.  This support dual-head via Xinerama.

Mike


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To: Patrick McLean
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Subject: Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500/7500 support



I have documentation and a test driver for these boards and could add
support, but judging from recent history in the ati driver, ATI seems to
be adding support for things themselves.  Can anyone comment on this?
Should I bother with adding support or just wait until ATI does it?



ani




On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Patrick McLean wrote:


> Does anyone know whether there will probably be at least 2d support for
> the Radeon 8500/7500 by the
> time they're released (I am trying to make up my mind whether or not to
> preorder one, but since I use
> Linux 95% of the time (only windows for gaming and digital cameral
> unloading) I don't want to buy one
> until there is 2d support under XFree.
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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500/7500 support

[Ani Joshi]

I have documentation and a test driver for these boards and could add
support, but judging from recent history in the ati driver, ATI seems to
be adding support for things themselves.  Can anyone comment on this?
Should I bother with adding support or just wait until ATI does it?


ani



On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Patrick McLean wrote:

> Does anyone know whether there will probably be at least 2d support for
> the Radeon 8500/7500 by the
> time they're released (I am trying to make up my mind whether or not to
> preorder one, but since I use
> Linux 95% of the time (only windows for gaming and digital cameral
> unloading) I don't want to buy one
> until there is 2d support under XFree.
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[Xpert]Radeon 8500/7500 support

[Patrick McLean]

Does anyone know whether there will probably be at least 2d support for 
the Radeon 8500/7500 by the
time they're released (I am trying to make up my mind whether or not to 
preorder one, but since I use
Linux 95% of the time (only windows for gaming and digital cameral 
unloading) I don't want to buy one
until there is 2d support under XFree.

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